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  • 6/27/2025
A young woman makes the bold decision to EXPOSE her own best friend for cheating on her husband. But what happens next will shock you... and leave their entire relationship in flames.
Here's the full cheating story, with updates commentary, and conclusion, read with love just for you, by me 🏾


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00:00Welcome to the show!
00:02It's Deidre.
00:02Hello, it is Deidre and today we are going to try something new yet again.
00:08You guys remember when I made that short about the person who saw their co-worker cheating on their wife with their co-workers?
00:15Remember that?
00:16If you don't remember it, here's what my advice was.
00:18You will likely no longer have this friend. Is that okay with you?
00:21If that's okay with you, then I would say...
00:25Expose him.
00:26That's right, I said, if you do not mind losing that friend, it probably wouldn't hurt to expose his cheating ways to his wife so that she may protect herself.
00:36Well, today we are going to go on an adventure.
00:41We are going to dive deep into the full story from the perspective of someone who actually did that.
00:49Someone who was prepared to lose their friend for the sake of exposing them for cheating.
00:55Now, this was posted on r slash best of Redditor updates.
00:59So, you can be sure that there will be updates at the end of this story.
01:03In fact, we will learn what happened in this scenario from start to finish.
01:08I don't think I've done this before.
01:09So, come with me on this journey as we discover what happens when someone is willing to expose their friend for cheating.
01:18So, this post was originally made on September 25th, 2024.
01:22I'm about to ruin my best friend's life and I don't feel remorse.
01:27My soon-to-be ex-best friend and I have been friends since middle school.
01:31We know everything about each other.
01:32Our families are basically one big family now.
01:35You get the idea.
01:36Like I said, we tell each other everything.
01:38Recently, she came to me telling me she's been having an affair for about four months now with her superior at her new job.
01:44She started about a year ago.
01:46She told me, not out of guilt, but to brag about the dream vacation she's going on with her affair partner.
01:52That's what AP means.
01:54Disguised as a work trip.
01:55Sounds familiar.
01:56We had a professional seminar abroad with colleagues.
01:59One of them, also my friend.
02:01She asked me to cover for her if her husband asks if we've been in contact because she's planning on going black for that week.
02:09So, he would have no way of finding out.
02:11Side note, we've both known her husband since high school.
02:15They are high school lovers, so they've been together for almost 15 years.
02:19Her husband is one of the most honest, hardworking, genuine people I know.
02:24He, of course, took everything she said about working late and the business trip at face value because he trusts her more than he trusts himself.
02:31I told her I would not be covering for her and to get out of my house because I couldn't even look at her right now.
02:39Later, I told my husband everything that happened and he was just as shocked and disgusted.
02:45Her husband is basically his best friend now, so he, of course, has a lot of loyalty to him as well.
02:50Well, my husband pointed out something I didn't even think of, our security camera.
02:56It caught everything.
03:00We plan on going to her husband tonight with the proof.
03:03It will be up to him to do what he wishes with it, but he deserves to know.
03:08Secondly, we are taking this to her job.
03:10As far as I know, fraternization of any kind is prohibited at her workplace.
03:16She was also promoted once by the same supervisor, so this could have been seen as favoritism.
03:23Our guess is that they will both be fired.
03:26Finally, I'm going to send a snippet of her admitting to the affair to all of her family, including mine.
03:33Dang!
03:33As I said, our families are very intertwined, so I will easily be able to contact the majority of her family.
03:42This is getting a little bit extreme, even for me.
03:46I'm not going to give her a chance to spin this against me or her husband.
03:51I can see that.
03:52Some may think this is harsh, but I wholeheartedly disagree with what she's doing.
03:58Edit to add.
03:58I decided to take the advice of some of the commenters and leave it up to her soon-to-be ex-husband to decide to go nuclear or not.
04:07As some of you pointed out, he may decide to stay with her, and going nuclear would ruin his life in return.
04:12True.
04:13The other reason is going nuclear and making her lose her job could affect the outcome of the divorce.
04:18Yeah.
04:19We still plan to tell him, but we have decided against the other two options for now.
04:25I'm going to let soon-to-be ex-husband know if she tries to pin this on either of us or tells anyone a single lie.
04:34I will do a 180 and go nuclear.
04:37I will not be seen as a villain for a situation I didn't even ask to be in in the first place.
04:44She was the one who thought it would be smart to tell her monogamous friend with traditional values that she's cheating on her spouse.
04:52She can lie in her bed.
04:53Small update.
04:55Everyone involved.
04:56Alyssa equals best friend.
04:58Noah, BFF's husband.
05:01Alyssa's husband?
05:01I decided to take the advice of a few people and reach out to Alyssa before I went to her husband.
05:07I recorded the conversation and let her know it was for my safety.
05:11She seemed still extremely nonchalant about the whole thing.
05:15I told her I was worried for her, and even for her, this was very out-of-character behavior.
05:19Long story short, she felt very weak and unbalanced in her and Noah's marriage.
05:26For context, Noah went to a trade school and makes very good money, while up until her promotion, Alyssa was making slightly more than minimum wage.
05:34She has recently been reading up on some anti-traditional values, and the woman in those forums attacked her for making less than her husband.
05:43She then explained that she noticed her supervisor was trying to flirt with her, and her internet friends told her to run with it and use him to get higher up.
05:52She, of course, did.
05:53That sounds like an excuse to me.
05:55She, of course, did, but admitted she'd become emotionally attached to him as well.
06:01All in all, she admitted she doesn't really regret the affair, because it helped her with her career, and she found love.
06:08I told her she had the option to tell Noah the truth before me, but hubby and I were coming over tonight with the video of her admitting the affair, so she wouldn't be able to sway it in her favor.
06:19Again, she very nonchalantly said,
06:21Mmm, okay, and hung up on me.
06:25IDK, what the heck is going on?
06:27I can't tell if she's having some sort of psychosis, or she's literally so detached from her marriage that she doesn't care what happens.
06:34Hubby and I are still planning to go to Noah tonight, but I'm honestly intrigued to see what she says to him.
06:41If she says anything at all.
06:43Okay, so that's the story.
06:45Now we're going to read some of the comments that were left on that post.
06:49Some of the commenters expressed concern as far as OP being taken to court for exposing in this manner, which I guess is possible in some situations, I don't know.
06:59But OP says, I'm pretty sure we'll be fine legally if we do ever end up sharing it.
07:05We've decided against it for now.
07:07She knew we had cameras in our house.
07:09We have a very obvious ring doorbell as well as outdoor cameras.
07:13The indoor ones are obvious as well.
07:15Plus, where we live, you have the right to record on your property without consent, so there would be no ability to retaliate against us.
07:22And the comments regarding OP telling her husband and then going nuclear, like how she said she was going to share all of this with family and her work and stuff, OP responds to this concern with, which she updated and said that she would hold back as long as Alyssa didn't try to flip it.
07:39OP says, the only reason I'm against it for now is because of some insightful comments.
07:43He's a very good man and he might forgive her and decide to reconcile.
07:47Even though I don't agree with it, it's his decision and I don't want to in turn ruin his life by letting everyone know he stayed with a cheater.
07:54Yeah.
07:55Someone also said affecting her job could affect the outcome of a possible divorce and I wouldn't want anything to play against him.
08:04This is why Reddit is useful.
08:06Very critical thinking.
08:07They got her thinking in the right direction.
08:09They don't want to hurt their friend, for sure.
08:11As fun and interesting as it would be to go completely nuclear and, you know, blow this woman out of the water, it's probably better not to do so in such a way that will hurt the innocent person even more than they already are hurting from being cheated on and lied to.
08:27OP closes with, I completely agree and Hubby and I decided against going nuclear because at the end of the day, soon to be X will be the only one who gets hurt, which is Noah.
08:35It will solely be his decision unless he tries to spread rumors or lies about me.
08:40My husband or his soon-to-be ex, which is Alyssa.
08:45I plan to tell him if she decides to try and spin this, as we said before.
08:49I will send a clip of the video to anyone she tells and let it spread from there.
08:54A wise commenter responds with,
08:56Agree.
08:57Also, OP, please be prepared for her husband to stay with his wife and cut you and your husband off.
09:03Marriages are complicated and sometimes things don't play out the way you imagine they will.
09:07You should tell him 100%, but what he does with that information is up to him.
09:12And please remember that this is not just blowing up your ex-friend's life.
09:18It's blowing up her husband's life too.
09:19It's his call whether he wants to go nuclear or not, as we said before.
09:24And OP responded with,
09:25I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he decided to stay with her.
09:28He's a very forgiving man and may be willing to give it a shot.
09:31As tough as it will be,
09:33we do see ourselves going to North Carolina with both of them unless a div-
09:36Oh, North Carolina.
09:37As tough as it will be,
09:40we do see ourselves going no contact with both of them unless a divorce were to take place.
09:45Because as much as we'd love to continue being friends and support husband,
09:49if ex-friend is part of the deal,
09:52we can't support that.
09:53I think they're referring to Alyssa as ex-friend.
09:56And yeah, just like we had discussed in that short,
09:58like you have to be ready to no longer have a friendship with the person or people you are exposing.
10:04And that's because, yes, if he does decide to stay,
10:07I think it will hinder the healing and
10:10transcending process that they would be going on if they chose to stick together.
10:15To have OP and her husband and their families,
10:17possibly their families, I guess, if their families do find out about it.
10:21They'll probably have to cut the whole thing off for the sake of preserving
10:24their privacy going forward and their ability to build.
10:28And as I said, this is not the end of the story.
10:31These, these Reddit posts have updates.
10:33So, update.
10:36There was a update posted September 27th, 2024, which was two days later.
10:43OP says,
10:44I apologize for not having time last night.
10:46We were obviously busy.
10:48People involved.
10:49Ex-best friend.
10:50Alyssa.
10:51Oh, it sounds like they're calling her ex already.
10:54So something went down.
10:56Bestie's husband.
10:58Alyssa's husband, Noah.
10:59I took a lot of people's advice and decided not to go nuclear.
11:02As many people said, at the end of the day, it's not my circus.
11:05The decision should be left up to the wronged party.
11:08And that is Noah.
11:09Mm-hmm.
11:10I also decided to reach out to Alyssa before telling Noah and decided to give her a chance
11:14to confess to Noah herself.
11:16That was generous.
11:18You didn't have to do that, but that was generous.
11:20I agree with that.
11:21She has an opportunity to kind of redeem herself by telling the truth a little bit.
11:27They gave that to her.
11:27That was a gift.
11:28I hope she took advantage of that.
11:30Let's find out.
11:32After I talked to her, I was legit thinking about reaching out to her parents about medical
11:36help because she was so unbothered and so non-remorseful about the affair that I thought
11:41she was having some sort of mental break or psychosis.
11:44Yeah, Alyssa's always been the kind to find loopholes or ways ahead, but cheating on your
11:49spouse of almost two decades for financial gain?
11:53It's not normal.
11:54If you didn't see my small update, the whole reason Alyssa started the affair was to get
11:59the promotion at work.
12:01It evolved into an emotional affair eventually, though.
12:04She admitted that her new friends from some feminism forums on Facebook groups told her
12:09she wasn't as valuable if she was making significantly less than her spouse.
12:14If this is about value, why do you think you'd be valuable if you're cheating on your
12:18husband?
12:19It's like solving a problem with a problem.
12:22Something I learned she's been more insecure about than she's been telling people.
12:27They also told her that using a man isn't cheating.
12:30As long as there's no emotional attachment, she's just being a girl boss.
12:35She admitted she couldn't separate her feelings from the intimate aspect and started going on
12:39regular dates, vacations, and eventually they started calling each other boyfriend and
12:43girlfriend.
12:44The AP affair partner knows she's married, but was told they were on the verge of separation.
12:51Oh, they are now, that's for sure.
12:53My hubby and I arrived at Noah and Alyssa's with some booze and some dinner, and by the
12:58time we were there, Noah had already gone through a bottle of wine.
13:01Surprisingly, Alyssa did confess to Noah about the affair.
13:07Wow.
13:07He told no.
13:08I bet she lied.
13:09Guaranteed she bent the truth.
13:11Let's read.
13:12He told us it was extremely non-apologetic, though.
13:15She sat him down and told him that she wasn't going on a business trip this week.
13:19She was going on a vacation with her boyfriend.
13:22Noah, being the clueless and loyal person he is, thought she meant to say husband and was
13:26so excited.
13:28Oh, that's so sad.
13:29He asked if they are going to Italy, like they planned for, and Alyssa just stared at
13:34him.
13:34She repeated, with my boyfriend.
13:38It took a few minutes, but it finally sunk in.
13:40He told us it wasn't pretty after that, and said he embarrassingly got on his knees and
13:45begged her to fix everything.
13:47The fact that he immediately responds by begging to fix it makes me wonder what actually was
13:53going down in their relationship.
13:55It doesn't seem like they really touched on that in detail.
13:58But he is apologetic suddenly, so either heavily codependent or he understands why his wife was
14:07venturing out into the world to taste other flavors of ice cream.
14:13Let's continue.
14:14She yelled for a bit, but then just stonewalled him again.
14:18She was already packed to leave and just left him there sobbing.
14:22She turned off her location, which both Noah and I were part of her family on the app, and
14:27we have no idea where she went.
14:30We assume she went to her affair partner's house, because if she had gone home with two
14:35suitcases, her mother would have reached out to Noah immediately.
14:39She sees him as a son.
14:42We sat down with Noah and said we had video and audio proof of Alyssa exposing and explaining
14:47the affair, and we will send them to him in case he needs them.
14:51I explained to him that in a moment of blind rage, I was planning on going scorched earth
14:57and telling everyone.
14:59But once I calmed down and looked at this rationally, which means once I posted it on Reddit and a
15:06bunch of people who were able to think outside the situation gave me some advice, but whatever.
15:12I realized that wasn't the right thing to do.
15:15The only person going full nuclear would hurt was him, because Alyssa obviously doesn't care
15:20anymore.
15:21I suspected the idea of reconciliation is still on his mind, but he doesn't see it happening.
15:26In order to reconcile, both parties must admit fault and want to reconcile.
15:31Alyssa clearly doesn't.
15:33We've gotten him in contact with a friend of my husband, who agreed to help him pro bono
15:37until the divorce shows results.
15:40So this friend that's going to help him is a lawyer, it sounds like.
15:44I can tell he's still hesitant about going forward with divorce, but he knows he also
15:49can't force Alyssa to stay.
15:52As comments have suggested, this is where we bow out.
15:54We are obviously going to continue to support Noah, but it's not our situation to handle.
15:59It's his.
16:00If there's any future updates, I'll of course ask Noah first, but you'll be the second to
16:04know.
16:05Thanks for being so supportive and helpful.
16:07It made me realize that how Noah handles his life and his marriage is his responsibility,
16:14not mine.
16:16Edit to add.
16:18Wanted to clear up some questions from the last post that I didn't really answer in the
16:21update.
16:22Here's the first question.
16:23What did Alyssa ever do to you that made you want to go so nuclear?
16:26And Opie responds, honestly, nothing in particular.
16:30Like I said, for the past few years, our friendship has been for convenience at its best.
16:35We've basically been friends because we know each other so well, and we have at least one
16:39friend.
16:42We have at least one friend?
16:45I don't understand that.
16:46Alyssa has always had qualities I don't agree with, but who doesn't?
16:50I think it was just the whole situation that made my blood boil, especially since Alyssa
16:54has always been disgusted by cheaters.
16:57She was the kind of person to cut dozens of people out of her life if it meant not supporting
17:01someone's infidelity.
17:04So for her to make a complete 180 and not even have guilt for it, it just grinds my gears.
17:09That's part of the reason I think she's having some sort of mental breakdown.
17:13Not only is it hypocritical, it's extremely out of character even for her.
17:18Yeah, that fact that Opie just outlined makes me wonder even more what was actually going
17:26on in Alyssa's life.
17:28There's so much that Opie doesn't know.
17:31And I'm not saying that cheating is justified, I'm just saying there's a possibility that
17:35there was a lot going on that led Alyssa to go against her values that we don't know
17:42about.
17:43Who knows?
17:44It's not an excuse though.
17:45Another question, are you in love with Noah?
17:48And Opie says, of course not.
17:50Singing someone's praises and trying to portray that they're a genuine and good person doesn't
17:54automatically mean you want to sleep with them.
17:56Our relationship has been nothing more than platonic for the entire time I've known him.
17:59Because he loved Alyssa and I loved their happiness.
18:03I love my husband and literally only ever saw Noah like a brother.
18:07Logic, people.
18:08For real.
18:09A second commenter said, you handled this incredibly well and even though it's a painful situation
18:14for all involved, your thoughtful approach will likely help Noah through this difficult
18:18time.
18:18If there are future updates, I'm sure everyone following this story will be eager to hear
18:22how things unfold.
18:23Wishing the best for Noah and for you and your husband as you continue to support him.
18:28That's nice.
18:29And Opie responds with, thank you.
18:31Like I said, I made this post and the decision to go nuclear in a fit of blind rage, but I
18:36soon realized I was being irrational.
18:38It's not my place to serve Alyssa vigilante justice, in all honesty.
18:42If she's not careful, she may out herself at work, and it's their decision what to do
18:46with the two of them.
18:47And there was further discussion from, uh, Reddit users on Opie notifying Alyssa's workplace.
18:53Opie responds to that concern with, I'm not going to.
18:56If Noah decides to reconcile, she'll be out of a job, which just adds to the problem that
19:01caused the affair in the first place.
19:03If she gets fired during the divorce, it could be grounds for alimony she doesn't deserve.
19:08And regarding the concern for where Alyssa was getting that crazy advice about making
19:13less than her husband, Opie responds to that by saying it wasn't a national or creditable
19:18group.
19:18It was called like independent women of insert state.
19:22And it's a bunch of women who give advice and other stuff tailored to the laws and jobs
19:26in our state.
19:27The advice she got was from a group of women she met in that group who had their own personal
19:32group chat.
19:33She called them her friends, but I guarantee none of them are going to help her pick up
19:38her life now that it's ruined.
19:40LOL.
19:41Update.
19:42There was an update to this story on October 5th, 2024, and that is eight days later.
19:48Well, I didn't expect to be back so soon, but the last week has been basically a speedrun
19:53of terrible events.
19:54This will probably be my last update, so feel free to consider this the conclusion of the
19:58events.
19:59Here we go, guys.
20:01Everything bad that could have happened, happened.
20:04The past two days specifically have been absolutely horrible.
20:08Sorry if this is all over the place, I'm still all over the place.
20:11So, IDK if it was the day she left or the day after.
20:15But Alyssa and her affair partner went on their vacation.
20:18The only reason I know is because she posted pictures all over social media of her and her
20:24affair partner.
20:25She had absolutely no shame.
20:28It was very clear that even if she wasn't divorced, this was her new boyfriend, which
20:34of course notified her family of the issues.
20:37Noah's phone was blowing up with apologies, accusations, everything you can think of.
20:42Noah, being the people pleaser he is, decided to tell her family they were on a mutual break,
20:48bro, instead of telling everybody she cheated, and that was the affair partner.
20:55That's so sad.
20:57Part of me wonders if he was trying to preserve his own pride, like not to be embarrassed.
21:01Not trying to be a people pleaser, but like avoiding the embarrassment of everyone finding
21:07out that she did this to him, maybe.
21:09But I wasn't there, so I don't know.
21:10Alyssa's mom fortunately didn't believe him, and came to me.
21:15I didn't hold back.
21:16I told her that she's been cheating on Noah for months, and that she recently bragged
21:20to me about her sugar daddy affair partner, and that's the only reason she's come clean
21:25to Noah.
21:26Alyssa's mom then dropped a bomb on me that even I didn't know.
21:33Alyssa is a serial cheater.
21:35Her mom said in high school, Alyssa would bring boys home under the guise of school projects
21:43or sports-related things, but she caught Alyssa kissing two different boys.
21:49She was with Noah.
21:50Yeah.
21:52They were high school sweethearts.
21:55Yeah.
21:56Keep in mind she was dating Noah all this time.
21:58She said she didn't think much of it and just chalked it up to being a crazy hormonal teenager.
22:04She also said she never expected her to marry her high school boyfriend, and by the time
22:09they were married, she figured Alyssa had stopped doing all this stuff.
22:12Neither her nor I have any idea if she's done anything like that since high school through
22:18to the present, but I'm not interested in digging further into it.
22:22So just like we said earlier, that story of the people online pushing her to cheat and
22:28leading her, that was BS.
22:30My heart said that that was BS.
22:32This is a person that wanted to cheat.
22:34She had those feelings.
22:35She did not just develop those feelings for her boss.
22:37She had a desire before that.
22:41She blamed Facebook to make it a little bit easier, I think.
22:44This just explains why Alyssa was so nonchalant about cheating, because apparently she has
22:49just always done it.
22:51I'm guessing her girl boss friends awoke something inside her.
22:55No, it was never sleeping.
22:56I'm sure she's been doing this.
22:57And she remembered how easily and nonchalantly she would cheat, and it inspired her to just
23:02do it again?
23:04I don't know.
23:05No, she was inspired already.
23:07She was inspired from the get-go since she was a teenager.
23:10She was inspired to explore various ice cream flavors, despite having some perfectly good
23:17ice cream at home.
23:18I'll be honest, I kind of yelled at her mother, something I'm not proud of.
23:22Huh?
23:22Why?
23:23Like I've said in previous posts, Alyssa's mom is basically my mom, so formalities and
23:28everything aren't something I think about when I talk to her.
23:31So, I freaked out and told her she set Noah up for this kind of life, when he could have
23:35found somebody ten times better.
23:37She took it like a champ and just let me vent until I was calm again.
23:41Thanks, mom.
23:41I apologized for yelling, but calmly said, you and I both know Noah deserved better.
23:47He did.
23:48It doesn't matter who knows that he deserves better.
23:50Did he know he deserved better?
23:51Because I'm assuming he had to have some idea over the years that something was going on.
23:59I don't know.
24:00I guess they didn't say that, but fact of the matter is, he stated that he would stay
24:05and try to fix it if she was willing, so that says a lot.
24:08I don't think he knows that he deserves better.
24:10So, to blame it on Alyssa's mom is a bit out there.
24:16Because Noah would, even if they had told him at that time, he probably would have tried
24:20to stay.
24:21You should have said something before he got married to her.
24:24This is Opie talking to Alyssa's mom.
24:26Alyssa's mom agreed, but said it's too late now to focus on that.
24:29And that the real issue at this time was supporting Noah.
24:33I told her if she wanted to support Noah, she could have told him his fiance was a cheater
24:3810 years ago.
24:39Don't blame her.
24:40Don't blame Alyssa's mom.
24:41Come on.
24:42I don't agree with that.
24:43And hung up on her.
24:44I've since talked to her.
24:46We're fine, but I was just mad at her in the moment.
24:48It's not her fault.
24:50Her daughter's a hoe.
24:51And also, let's be real.
24:52Noah would have stayed.
24:53Noah's not making the...
24:54Noah would not be making the right choice anyway.
24:56Let's continue.
25:00Next thing that happened was that the photos got back to a colleague, and both of them
25:04were out a job before their vacation was even over.
25:09That had to be so awkward.
25:12As I assumed, their workplace was extremely upset and did consider Alyssa getting the promotion
25:18favoritism.
25:19And they were both let go.
25:20Noah told me there was at least three hour complaints about them.
25:25What?
25:26Hour?
25:26Oh, Noah told me there was at least three HR complaints about them.
25:31So, it was a no-brainer, of course, the beautiful relationship Alyssa and her affair partner
25:36had turned sour.
25:39As soon as he learned he was let go from his six-figure job because of her, he was so pissed.
25:46He even canceled Alyssa's plane ticket home out of spite and planned to leave her stranded
25:52there.
25:53Girl, this is who you left your husband for?
25:55You should have seen that.
25:57I have a theory, and this is not everybody in positions of power.
26:00But I don't think people get into positions of power in the workplace by being nice.
26:05That's just my lens.
26:06That's just my lens.
26:09That's the lens that I see through.
26:10So, I'm very cautious when I deal with people in higher positions.
26:14I know it doesn't come by being nice, it comes from understanding how things work and not
26:20being afraid to be a dick sometimes.
26:22And some of them, unfortunately, like to be dicks, like this guy.
26:25He handles the issue that he helped create, my stomach is growling, by being a dick, to Alyssa.
26:32Let's continue reading.
26:33This is where all of you will be disappointed.
26:36And so am I.
26:38But Noah immediately forgave her.
26:41Bought her a ticket and moved her back in.
26:46She told him it was just a huge mistake, and seeing how her affair partner treated her
26:51made her realize what she could have lost.
26:53It's obviously all BS to me and hubby, but you already know Noah ate that shit up.
27:00He told us that he's urging her to go to couples counseling.
27:03But of course, it's not an ultimatum.
27:05So, basically, she just got to have her cake and eat it with no consequences.
27:09Well, she did lose her job, but...
27:11We told Noah previously and reminded him that if he decided to take Alyssa back, we'd be
27:16going at the very least low contact.
27:18We kept our word and have completely blocked Alyssa.
27:21And have Noah unblocked, but don't plan to engage in small talk or invitations to stuff.
27:27We refused to be like him.
27:29Hmm, I see that.
27:31And just act like this never happened, because that's not normal.
27:34He understood, but told us he has to stand by the vows he made to his wife.
27:39Even though she's not standing by them, okay?
27:41Which we both understand to an extent and wished him well.
27:44The vows have already been broken.
27:45There are no vows.
27:49But whatever.
27:50So, yep, Alyssa got to sleep with another man, go on a nice vacation, lose her job,
27:55and still gets a bed and a husband to come home to.
27:58All's well that ends well.
28:00IDK how to feel about this.
28:01Like, if they want to live their f***ed up broken marriage life, that's their choice.
28:06I'm not even mad anymore.
28:07Just drained.
28:08I'm almost glad it's over now.
28:10Because I don't know if I could deal with this for months on end.
28:14Ugh.
28:14I knew this was going to happen eventually.
28:17It's just who Noah is.
28:19But it feels just as idiotic as it sounds.
28:22I don't know.
28:23I'm just rambling at this point.
28:25I'm glad we decided to step back.
28:27Because honestly, both of them have very clear psychological issues that need to be addressed
28:32by a professional.
28:33But neither of them will ever do that.
28:35Well, he did say couples counseling, but I don't think that.
28:38I don't think couples counseling is effective when you don't have individual counseling as well.
28:43In a lot of cases, not all.
28:45Just some.
28:46This one would be one of that some.
28:48I'd rather be rid of people like this.
28:50Sorry if I'm being blunt or mean, but at the end of the day, both of them have issues
28:54I didn't sign up to deal with.
28:55I don't need this kind of stress while husband and I are trying for kids.
28:59So yeah.
29:00I guess this is it.
29:01Yup.
29:02And here are some of the comments from that update.
29:05The first commenter says,
29:06I feel for Noah.
29:07He will always be a sucker for her and she'll always get away with anything.
29:11No consequences for anything.
29:14MC?
29:14Marriage counseling is not an ultimatum.
29:17Sigh.
29:17Unbelievable.
29:18Maybe one day he'll catch her with a guy in their own bed and he'll snap out of it.
29:22No, I don't think he will.
29:24I don't think he would snap out of that.
29:25He's already come this far.
29:27What's one more?
29:29Slap in the face.
29:30You did the right thing the way you handled it and distanced yourself right now.
29:34Don't turn your back on Noah though.
29:36He's going to need people.
29:37He does.
29:38But I mean, you can't help someone who can't help themselves.
29:41It's not their job.
29:42It would stress them out.
29:43Like she said, they're trying to have kids now.
29:45And I'm sure they'd love to support Noah, but it's very hard to support someone who
29:49wants to keep making mistakes without stressing yourself out on their behalf.
29:54Another commenter said, I feel no sympathy for Noah.
29:57He needs to find his balls from wherever she hid them because she will cheat on him again
30:02and again and he will always stupidly take her back.
30:04You're completely justified staying away from that mess.
30:07Yes.
30:08Yeah.
30:09I'm sure he knows.
30:10If he didn't know about the high school cheating, I'm sure he knows by now.
30:13Clearly she's a, as her mom put it, a serial cheater.
30:18This commenter's prophecy has already come true.
30:21She will cheat on him again and again and he will always stupidly take her back.
30:24Yeah.
30:25It's the reality now.
30:26Update.
30:27We weren't expecting an update because she said that that would be the last update.
30:31Hmm.
30:32Let's see.
30:33This update was posted November 2nd, 2024, and that was almost one month later from the
30:38last update.
30:40OP says, it's been about a month since I last posted.
30:43I wasn't planning on updating, yeah?
30:45But the most hilarious thing happened with Alyssa and Noah.
30:48I needed to tell something.
30:50Bear with me.
30:50This is all through the grapevine because husband and I are still no contact with them.
30:55So first off, Noah has rewarded Alyssa's cheating with another vacation.
31:00They are planning on going to Italy for their vow renewal.
31:03Their plan is to basically start over their marriage even though they've been together
31:07for 15 years.
31:09Not gonna lie, I burst out laughing when I was told this.
31:12Well, I mean, if they're making progress in their relationship, you never know.
31:15I don't know.
31:16Whatever.
31:17Not gonna lie.
31:18Oh, I already read that part.
31:19I just think it's so hilarious that they're both gonna sweep this under the rug and try
31:23to act like their life didn't implode.
31:25But hey, if it makes them happy, who am I to stop them?
31:29The second thing is that they've decided to try for a baby.
31:32One thing Alyssa and I always bonded over was being conservatives who wanted to be child-free.
31:40Oh, OP was trying for a child too.
31:42That's what she said earlier.
31:43I guess people change after all.
31:45Neither of us felt like we would be good mothers.
31:47Of course, since we live in a largely conservative community with conservative families, we were
31:52always basically bullied into changing our mind.
31:55But we had each other.
31:56That's the important part.
31:57Once I met my husband, ah, that does change things.
32:01I had kind of changed my mind about kids, which we are also currently trying for.
32:07But Alyssa never swayed.
32:08The last conversation we had about our family pressuring her into kids was about two months
32:12ago, a week or two before the cheating incident.
32:15Oh my god.
32:17Not only do I think this is a terrible, which cheating incident?
32:20Really?
32:20Her whole relationship has been a cheating incident.
32:23Not only do I think this is a terrible idea because the baby's going to grow up in a
32:27dysfunctional family.
32:28I agree.
32:29Alyssa won't love this child.
32:31I honestly just feel pity for everyone involved now.
32:34Yeah, a child is not a band-aid.
32:36I think they should work on solving this problem.
32:40Noah's being a bit foolish.
32:41If he thinks that putting a baby band-aid on this situation is going to make his wife a
32:45better person, here's another thing coming.
32:48It's only been a month, Noah.
32:49If one month of not cheating is enough to solve the problem, this problem is not solved.
32:56So, Opie had said,
32:58I honestly just feel pity for everyone involved.
33:01For Noah, for thinking his life has to be staying with a cheater.
33:04And Alyssa, for basically forcing herself to live a life she doesn't want to live.
33:08And their future child for being born into this clusterfuck.
33:13But yeah, consider this the official end.
33:16Maybe I'll be back in a year or two when it turns out Noah has been raising another man's
33:20baby.
33:21That would be such a plot twist.
33:24A plot twist?
33:24That's not actually a plot twist.
33:26Yeah, I think there's a lot of opportunity in this situation for Noah to explore his own
33:31intentions and his perspective on this issue.
33:36It sounds like maybe he has low self-esteem.
33:38Opie describes him as being a hard worker and very loyal.
33:42And of course, we already stated, it seems like he doesn't realize that he deserves better.
33:47Those are qualities that are very hard to find in 2025.
33:52I'm sure there's a lot of really good women out there who would treat him with respect and
33:59also return that loyalty that he gives to them.
34:02But he has chosen Alyssa for whatever reason.
34:06All in all, I think Opie made the right choice.
34:08I think they navigated it in a healthy way.
34:10They were able to, you know, notify their friend and protect him.
34:14They put the power in his hands to decide what he wanted to do with the situation and he
34:19made his choice.
34:21And I also commend her and her husband, Opie and her husband, for being willing to put
34:27some distance between themselves and their friends here.
34:30Because I think if they tried to stay in contact, they would only add to the issue.
34:35I would hope that Noah and Alyssa are actually turning over a new leaf and that Alyssa has learned
34:40a lesson and, you know, they do go on to have a healthy situation.
34:45But if she's not going to therapy to tackle the reasons why she decides to cheat, it sounds
34:52like she's been doing that since she was a child to the same man.
34:56She's clearly taking him for granted.
34:57If she's not confronting those issues within herself, perhaps it's insecurity that leads
35:03her to make those choices and like the need for outside validation.
35:06I kind of think that he's setting himself up for exactly what Opie describes here, which
35:13is Noah ending up raising another man's baby.
35:21So what do you think about this?
35:23Like if you were Opie, what would you have done in this situation?
35:26Would you have gone nuclear or do you think she handled it?
35:29Her and her husband handled it in a healthy way.
35:32Let me know.
35:32I hope you enjoyed this type of Reddit exploration with me.
35:36It was a lot of fun.
35:38I don't know.
35:38Maybe we'll do it again.
35:39Let me know what you think.
35:40And of course, if you like what you are seeing, go ahead and hit subscribe.
35:43There's going to be plenty more.
35:44I like to read Reddit.
35:45I like to explore these topics and I like to talk about stuff like relationships.
35:50So if that's what you're into, this is the place to be.
35:53Join me.
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