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The Jeremy Kyle Show - 14th March 2013
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00:00On today's show
00:02We had sex with her twice.
00:03Where about?
00:04In the bathroom when she came for access.
00:06Oh, came to see the kids and had a quickie in the bathroom, lovely.
00:09Yeah.
00:10You said, I've heard a rumour of what she gets up to in the local betting shop.
00:14I've heard the rumour that £5 for a...
00:18£10 for full sex.
00:20Did you have sex with them for the third time?
00:22Two in the bathroom, one in the kitchen.
00:23No, please don't.
00:24You've got to f*** the kitchen.
00:25No, I did not.
00:26Oh, f*** your name.
00:29You've admitted you've cheated, and she's admitted that she's cheated.
00:32Why are you together?
00:33I don't know.
00:34So it's over?
00:35Yeah.
00:36It's over.
00:37Julie, you're out to house.
00:39You're showing her out to house?
00:40Yeah.
00:42See you later, matey.
00:43No, let me talk to you, won't you?
00:49You've done me, Stephen.
00:51You've done me, Stephen.
00:52You've done me, Stephen.
00:53You've done me, Stephen.
00:54You've done me, Stephen.
00:55You've done me, Stephen.
00:56You've done me, Stephen.
00:57You know I love you-
00:58You've produced me for years of cheating on you.
01:01You've called me all the names under the sun.
01:03Yes, you do.
01:04I feel so fine.
01:12Thank you very much, Adi. Good morning, and as ever a big, big welcome to the show.
01:30Now, our first guest today, Julie, is here for all-important double lie detector results.
01:33This lady says she will prove to her partner, Dan, that she's been faithful, but also she
01:38wants to discover whether he has in fact been cheating with his ex-wife, a woman she describes
01:43in her own words, check this, as a complete tramp. Julie's on the Jeremy Kyle Show, give
01:47her a round of applause. Get yourself down. How are you, sweetheart? You all right? Nice
01:51to meet you. Thank you very much, Adi. Now, this is a heck of a story, and I'm not going
01:54to need to say a lot, so I've introduced it. You've been with Darren for five years.
01:58Yes, I have. Living together for two, step-mom to his four kids, because he got custody. Bear
02:05that in mind as this story evolves. But his ex-wife, Michelle, um, there's a major issue
02:11between you and her. Now, let's just give out what we know at this point. He and she have
02:18had three liaisons. Yes. What happened? He had sex with her twice. He had sex with her twice.
02:24Where about? Once in the bathroom when he was... when she came for access. Oh, came to see the
02:31kids and had a quickie in the bathroom. Lovely. Yeah. The second time was a kiss. I was coming
02:39down the stairs. He was kissing her passionately. So she... hold on a second. She comes to visit
02:44her kids, because she was that bad a mother she lost custody, and gets off with him in
02:47front of you. And you've been bringing these kids up? Yes. And then they had it again.
02:50Where did they have it the third time? While I was sleeping downstairs, they went upstairs.
02:56You said, I've heard a rumour of what she gets up to in the local betting shop. I've heard
03:02the rumour that she's £5 for a... £10 for full sex. Listen, I've had a £10 win double
03:12once in the bookies, but I've never known anybody offering oral sex for a fiver. She goes to
03:16the bookies and offers... what? All right. You say, she ain't a great mum and I've done
03:23a sterling job with these four kids. Yes, I have. When you look at her, that lovely lady
03:29there on the screen, what do you think? She's a tramp. Brilliant. Let's get Michelle on the
03:35Jeremy Kyle show. She's coming out. What the f*** was that? You know for a fact I don't
03:46do that. And you're just because I've got a bond with Darren that you can't, and that's
03:49kids. No. Yeah, it f*** is. No it is. So why'd you fetch me on this show, then? Why'd you
03:54fetch me on this show? Because you know I could have Darren back any day I wanted. I don't
03:57think so. Yeah, I could, Julian. You know it. No, you couldn't. Is that why he goes upstairs
04:01down your way because he can't stand? Yeah, because you've told him to. No, I haven't. Yeah, you
04:05don't want him to see him as me because you like having an upper hand over Darren. Yeah, but
04:09hold on a second, that's fair enough because you and he aren't together and he's with her
04:14five years and every time you go round the house you try on with him. No, Darren tries
04:18on with me because when we first used to go down, you wasn't there for contact. How many
04:23times have you slept with him whilst he's been with her? Oh my lord. Twice. Twice.
04:28Why would she have sex with somebody else's boyfriend? Because the first time I did it
04:32was in the bathroom because he said he wanted me back and the second time you knew about it
04:35because you were downstairs. What do you mean she knew about it? Because she was downstairs
04:39because me and Darren were trying to get back together. He has. Has he admitted to having sex?
04:42He has. Then why don't you sling his hook? Because it's not just Michelle who was involved,
04:47it's his children know and love me. When was the last time he admitted to sleeping with her? The last
04:53time was when he slept upstairs with her but there's also another one that Michelle- That
04:58was a big consolation though. This is ridiculous. We were getting back together at that time
05:01for the sake of the kids. Why haven't you got your- Darren! Oi, Oi, let's look at you a minute.
05:05Why haven't you got your kids? Because I had a gambling problem. Are you in a better place
05:08now? I'm getting out. Do you want to be back with him? No, I don't. Not whilst being with her,
05:13no. No, no, no, no, no. But if he wasn't with her, you'd be back? No, I wouldn't, no. You've just said
05:17you came out and you said I could have him any time. I could have him any day but I don't
05:21want him back. I don't think so, Michelle. Yeah, I could and you know it. No way, Michelle.
05:25There's no way he would have you back on- Is he going to fail this lie detector? Yeah, he
05:29is. Oh, so you've done it more. Hold on. No, we've done it twice. Well, how's he
05:33going to fail it then? You've done it actually three times. Because you told me. Because we did it,
05:36we've done, I did it in the kitchen and we've done it twice. Right. It's very classy.
05:41It's very classy. Let's get Darren, be quiet. Let's get Darren on the Jeremy Carl show. He's
05:45coming out now. Hold on. I'm not in love with her. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. You have? No, I'm not.
05:54Who walked out when the kids were 12 weeks old? Yeah, and why did I? Who left them? Go on. Who left them?
06:00I'm in love with Julie. Yeah, right. Why don't you keep having sex with her then, you dirty
06:04man? Why don't you keep having sex with her? Because you're in love with Julie. Biggest mistake,
06:09Jamie, of my life. Biggest mistake. Hold on, not just once. How many times have you had
06:14sex twice? So you basically would stand really accused of having sex with both of them when
06:19it suits you. When you know that she'd do anything to split this relationship up, why did
06:23you keep having sex with her? It's your fault. Yeah, I'm dumb. And why do you think she's
06:27messing around? To cover your own guilty conscience? Julie cheated on me before I cheated with
06:31Michelle. Why don't you all just live on your own? Who are you? I'm a friend of theirs.
06:37Who are you? I'm a friend of Michelle's. I actually helped her get a self-exclusion from
06:42all the bookies. And who is this? That's it. She's got a ban from the bookies. Oh, this is
06:47weird. Gentlemen, can I have we're not? Can I have we're not this, please? It's funny about this. Was she
06:51offering oral sex to men at the bookies? No. This is the way that's been in Manchester. It's
06:56been in a good bar or something. I ain't been in Manchester all the time. Has he been in
07:00Manchester long? Michelle, zip. I'll tell you something, mate. Just stand there. It's
07:04my show, not yours. What are you doing? Who are you? I'm a good friend of Michelle's.
07:08You're sleeping with her. Good friend. Then what do you want to say? Be quiet.
07:14Right. Let's get this absolutely right. Okay. Here's the thing.
07:18Cousins, isn't it? Yeah, we are cousins. It's not illegal.
07:22We are cousins. We are cousins.
07:26You all can't carry kids then. You can't carry kids, Michelle.
07:32But I told you what. I've heard about keeping it in the bookies and that's keeping it in the
07:40family. Excuse me. I feel I'm losing control of my life. Could you do me a favor? Could
07:49you do me a favor? Could you be quiet? And can you do me a favor, Gabby? Can you be quiet?
07:53Because I want to concentrate on what's mattering here. We have four kids that you, apparently
07:58because of this gambling addiction, do not have custody of now. The kids are with you.
08:03Wait. Shush. Don't look so angry. I read this story that you moved on. You moved with Julie.
08:08Julie became this fantastic stepmother, a stepmother of those kids called Mum. Why would you ruin
08:15all that, right, by having sex with her, whether it's once, shut up, twice or three times? Why
08:21would you do that to Julie? Just answer that without shouting. To me.
08:25Because Julie cheated on me first. Did you? So I got my own back, Jeremy.
08:30What, three times? She cheated on me twice. Oh, my lord. It keeps adding up. Have you cheated on him twice?
08:35Twice. Oh, my lord. Why does anybody stay in a relationship? But I haven't retaliated. Why don't you all just sleep with each other?
08:40I didn't retaliate when he'd done it the third time. Is that why you keep forgiving him? Do you, have you cheated more than three times?
08:46No. You haven't? No. You say he has. You say it's been more than that, right?
08:51It's been more than that. No, it hasn't. No, it hasn't. Wait, she said you're gonna fail. What about you? Have you cheated more than twice?
08:55No. He apparently says I haven't cheated more than three times. She says I haven't cheated more than twice.
08:59Frankly, does it matter? I don't know, but we've got double lie detector results next. I'll be back.
09:04Did you have sex with the third time? Toy bathroom, what a kitchen. I don't think so. You got a s*** in the kitchen. No, I did not.
09:11We asked Darren, since the start of your relationship with Julia, have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
09:17Trust me, you know I love you. No, you don't. I swear to God, you know I love you.
09:21You accused me for years of cheating on you. You called me all the names of the son. Yes, you did. You're a liar. You're a liar.
09:29Welcome back. Before the break, I was attending to talk to Julie, her partner Darren, his ex-wife Michelle.
09:43Let me just do a brief synopsis for you. Apparently Darren was with Michelle. They had four kids.
09:48She got a gambling addiction. He had custody of the kids. He then got with Julie, who we found out earlier was his cousin.
09:54His kids call his cousin mummy. Michelle, the ex-mummy, comes occasionally to see the kids and has sex with Darren on three occasions.
10:02His partner, Julie, his cousin, wants to know if it was more on three occasions. Then of course in the mix comes out the fact that Julie, his cousin, has also cheated on him twice.
10:10I'm just going to say something before I open these results. Why the hell are you together? It's a joke.
10:15And you, you're my nip. Would you be quiet? Zip. Wayne has nothing to do with them kids. He's wanted to meet him with all sorts.
10:24I'm doing the lie detector results. You know the truth on this show. Who are we going to start with? We're going to start with you, Darren.
10:28So you say, and I quote, in the time that I've been with Julie, in brackets, my cousin, even close brackets, you've only had sexual intercourse with her twice.
10:36And what about the third occasion? What happened then?
10:40Third occasion. Did you have sex with her the third time?
10:43Toy bathroom, what a kitchen. Oh, man.
10:45And then she said, oh, she was downstairs. What a kitchen.
10:48They're a laundry room. I don't think so.
10:50You've got a **** in the kitchen. No, I did not.
10:52You've got a **** in the kitchen.
10:54You've got a **** in the kitchen. Sorry, can I, can I tell you? Sorry.
10:58Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?
11:02What did you get in the kitchen?
11:04You've got a **** in the kitchen. Yeah, right.
11:06Most people beat an egg in the kitchen.
11:10A really good kitchen.
11:12We asked Darren, since the start of your relationship with Julie, apart from the three times she knows about, have you passionately kissed anyone else?
11:19He said just three times with her, three times, yes. You said no. Why'd you say no?
11:24Because I was telling the truth. No, you weren't.
11:26Thank you very much.
11:28Thank you very much.
11:29Oh, good. I'm proud I'm on television proving I'm having sex with me ex.
11:33Why don't you quit gambling and work out it might be more important to be a better mother rather than giving it out wherever you are.
11:39That's why we're helping me, Michelle.
11:41Since the start of your relationship with Julie, apart from kissing and the times she knows about have you had sexual contact with anyone else, your old man said no.
11:49This test says you were lying on that question as well.
11:51No, I weren't. No.
11:53Of course you were. You've got liar written all over your forehead.
11:55No, I haven't. Yes, you have.
11:56No, I haven't.
11:57Your missus is upstairs and you're having sex with her wherever it is. Where was it? On the washing machine or something.
12:02Oh, well.
12:03Since the start of your relationship with Julie, apart from the twice she knows about have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else, he said no.
12:08I'm not surprised. He failed every question, darling. Why don't you wake up and finish it? Because it's a joke.
12:14Are you going to say anything to him or just, I love you, Darren. It's fine.
12:18So when was it?
12:20Oh, God. Was it?
12:24Obviously, she's manipulative anyhow.
12:26Oh, yeah.
12:27Oh, look at you wearing a mirror. Don't forget you might break him.
12:29No, I think anyone will break you.
12:31By the way, your kids don't call your mum, by the way. They call you Michelle.
12:35Yeah, I know they don't.
12:36Can I ask you a question? I don't mean to be rude to you. I'm trying to be respectable here.
12:40Why don't you concentrate on telling a man you've spent five years with that you're not prepared to accept this behaviour?
12:47You're just sitting there and having a go at her. It could be anybody.
12:50He's the liar.
12:51Divorce is bad as each other.
12:52Then why don't you kick him to the curb?
12:54Because I am not going to be used as a doormat anymore.
12:57Right. Fine. Fair enough.
12:58Where the hell are you going?
13:00You're not fighting for her. You're not fighting for her.
13:03So it's true then. You admit, don't you? Why don't you admit to her?
13:06You're just as much as a liar.
13:08Be quiet. Why don't you admit to her the truth? Go on, right now.
13:11At least I had to tell you the truth though, didn't I?
13:13I did like it like he did.
13:15Be quiet. Tell her to be quiet. Where's he gone now? Oh my God.
13:19It could have been like he found that!
13:21Oi! Oi! I am not following you out this... Where are you going?
13:26Why don't you tell her... Oi! Oi! That test was right, wasn't it?
13:31It was, yes. Right, go and tell her. Go on.
13:34Julie! Go on, because she can't get over here. Go on.
13:37Go and be a man and tell her that truth.
13:40What this is all about, isn't it? This is all about Michelle.
13:43Michelle, shut your mouth. Tell her the truth.
13:46Was it the February that I've always had?
13:48Oh, God. In the kitchen. Yes.
13:50What happened? So you slept with somebody else? Come here, come on.
13:53No, I didn't sleep with somebody else.
13:55No, it was Michelle. It was Michelle.
13:57I asked you last night before we came here to tell me who that February.
14:02You said no. I've had two years to find out that.
14:07I just want to know this. The lie detector was correct. You're a liar, yeah?
14:10Yeah.
14:11Let's do Julie's results. Where are they, please, Will? Are they there?
14:15Where are you going now? You're running off?
14:17Yeah. Gutless.
14:18So you love him, do you?
14:20I love him, but I'm not with her.
14:22Really? Why not? Because she doesn't care. She's just out to score a few points.
14:25You're stupid because you allow this to happen.
14:27I am stupid for allowing it to happen.
14:30Since the start of your relationship with Darren, apart from the twice he knows about,
14:34have you passionately kissed anyone else? You said no.
14:36No. This test says you were lying as well.
14:39I don't know.
14:42No. Darren, have you stopped listening?
14:45She's failed the first question as well, son.
14:48Since the start of your relationship with Darren, apart from the twice he knows about it,
14:52have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
14:54You said no. Listen up, Darren, big man, because this says she was lying on that question as well.
15:00No.
15:02As bad as each other. What a joke.
15:05Since the start of your relationship with Darren, apart from the twice he knows about it,
15:08have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
15:09Hey Darren, she said no.
15:11Guess what? You're both as bad as each other.
15:13You've failed every question as well, didn't you?
15:15And that's true, isn't it? Come on.
15:16No. Yes, it is.
15:17No, it isn't.
15:18No, it isn't.
15:19Come on, love.
15:20No, it isn't.
15:21You and E are meant to be.
15:22You're as bad as each other.
15:23Your relationship's a joke.
15:24She, of course, is a pain in the backside.
15:26It'll do anything to score cheat points.
15:28And in the middle of all this mess, four kids who don't see their mother because their mother picks gambling over being a mother.
15:34No.
15:35Her mother is more interested in getting off with her ex when she comes round to see them.
15:38She won't.
15:39She won't.
15:40Why don't you finish you two and realise that this is a joke?
15:43You're a cheat, aren't you?
15:45She's a cheat as well.
15:49And Michelle's always going to want to have sex with you.
15:52Well, you can all live in a house and have sex with each other.
15:54You can do what is absolutely right, which is concentrate on these kids.
15:57It's a joke, your relationship.
15:58Can you tell me that your lie detector's wrong, are you?
16:01No.
16:02I don't know because I don't know of anything.
16:04I didn't actually want to go to your diary's house and see kids.
16:06Anyway, I've asked for a contact centre and he won't agree to it.
16:09I found out that you're both liars, aren't you?
16:11Well, you're no more.
16:12At least I'm not the one who sleeps around all the time.
16:15Go away.
16:16Go away.
16:17Go and concentrate that you should be a mother, okay?
16:20Stop sleeping with your ex and concentrate on being a mum.
16:23Are you and he, you know, the lovebirds, it's going to work?
16:26I don't know.
16:27How can it work?
16:28It's a joke.
16:29We'll just see how it goes.
16:30Darren's a joke.
16:32What do you mean, we'll see how it goes?
16:35It's the children I'm more bothered about.
16:37Oh, yeah, they're going to love this.
16:38What a great place to be in, where their father sleeps occasionally with their mother,
16:42but most of the time sleeps with his own cousin,
16:44who's probably having sex with anybody in local bookmakers.
16:46It's a fantastic way to bring up kids, isn't it?
16:49Marvellous joke.
16:52I mean, call me old-fashioned, Darren, you see,
16:54but I thought in a relationship there was supposed to be a degree of love.
16:57You've admitted you've cheated, and she's admitted that she's cheated.
17:00Why are you together?
17:02I don't know.
17:03I don't know, Jeremy.
17:05Honest to God, I don't know.
17:07I thought she did love me.
17:09Don't love each other.
17:11I forgive her twice for cheating on me.
17:14But you know what, at what point do you go,
17:15you know, she's done it three times, I've done it four times, she...
17:18Your kids are going to be ruined if this ridiculous situation continues.
17:23If it was me, I would sit down with her, starting now,
17:28and I would say, whatever we might think, this has got to stop.
17:31This is ridiculous.
17:32It's got to stop.
17:33Go and tell her.
17:34The relationship doesn't work.
17:39Why don't you concentrate on being your own and being a dad?
17:41I'm going to have to.
17:42So it's over?
17:43Yeah, it's over.
17:45Jolly, you're out of house.
17:47Oh, that's nice.
17:49Are you bothered?
17:51You're throwing her out of the house?
17:53Yeah.
17:54A woman who's worked for four years to bring up your kids
17:56in between sleeping with other people?
17:58We both cheated.
18:01Somebody's got to finish it because it ain't going to get any better.
18:04Why don't you just go and get on with your life, OK?
18:07Stop cheating on people and concentrate on being a dad.
18:10You go that way.
18:11I'm going back on stage.
18:12Excuse me, Bobby, sorry.
18:14I don't know what I'm supposed to say sometimes.
18:17What am I supposed to say?
18:18Ooh, why don't you go and have a bit of counselling?
18:20It'll be fine.
18:21Your relationship's a joke, love, OK?
18:23Isn't it?
18:24He comes on television, he admits he cheats and then says you're out of the house.
18:27Stop trying to make something work that doesn't patently work, Jules.
18:30It doesn't work.
18:31You're a cheat and he's a cheat.
18:32What do you want me to say?
18:33Abracadabra, it'll be fine.
18:35No, it won't be fine.
18:36Then why don't you finish it and agree to finish it?
18:39I don't know.
18:41This show is about honesty for me.
18:42Biggest joke of a relationship I've seen in a long time, right?
18:45And I've learnt one thing in the last two months.
18:47This ain't a rehearsal and life is too short.
18:49So you know what?
18:50Do the right thing and finish it.
18:51I'm back with more lie detector after this break.
18:53See you later, matey.
18:54No, let me talk.
18:55Do you want to?
18:56Keep going, he's sleeping, he's having a dead on his feet.
19:01Look at him.
19:02Look at him.
19:06Does everybody smoke weed, not work, have unprotected sex and talk too much?
19:09I'm going to do the results.
19:10Be quiet.
19:12Well, why do you have kids if you can't afford to pay for them?
19:14Because we live in a society that wipes people's backsides like you and it's a joke.
19:18It doesn't stop you having sex with four women, does it?
19:25Don't do it!
19:27Do you think he loves you and he's having sex with other women?
19:32Well, you slept with him!
19:33Yeah, well, he's f***ed.
19:34Anyway.
19:35Shane, you niche just as much as he is.
19:39This guy is not worth it.
19:44You've got family and you've got friends and you need to aim higher than this guy.
19:47We're going to support you and work with you, okay?
19:49Okay.
19:50The longer you excuse it, he will carry on doing it.
19:54Why would you pick drink and drugs over your own flesh and blood?
19:57Go and read out what it means being a mother.
19:59It's about being truthful to your kid.
20:01If you are not drug free, you will never get another chance.
20:04And for the people who criticize this show, in a controlled environment,
20:07we're going to find out the truth for this kid.
20:09Change your life, he's worth it.
20:17Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
20:21My next guest today, Leigh-Anne, is adamant that her husband, Zahna,
20:24is a cheat and says her suspicions started two years ago
20:27when she discovered a stranger's thong on the back seat of his car.
20:31On the back seat of the car.
20:32Just a thong.
20:33Leigh-Anne's on the Jeremy Cowell Show.
20:34Give her a round of applause.
20:43I should bear in mind...
20:44Take a seat, please.
20:45I should bear in mind that when we read things like that,
20:47you know, it can be slightly amusing, but this is your life
20:49and this is your relationship and you look terrified.
20:52I am. I'm so scared.
20:54Why? Because you think you'll find that your old man's the cheat?
20:57Yeah.
20:58You and Zahna married for five years together for six.
21:00Two kids, and this is the important point of this story,
21:02kids of two and one.
21:04The last two years have been very difficult for you.
21:06You say, um, I do believe that he'll fail
21:09and so I come here thinking that, well, what?
21:12If he has failed, is the relationship over?
21:14Are you one of those?
21:15Yeah, I'm about 100%.
21:16Finished.
21:17And that's why you are on edge, right?
21:18Yeah.
21:19Tell me what that would do to you, two young kids,
21:21because the reality is, and I say to people all the time
21:23about ultimatums, don't ever give them unless you mean them.
21:25It's down to you.
21:26But you are saying that if anything happens, six years is gone.
21:29Yeah, but I'd never stop him from seeing the children.
21:32Do you believe in your heart of hearts that he'd do that to you?
21:36Um, yeah, because the way that he's been acting.
21:40Um, you've had a call from a woman claiming to have slept with him?
21:45Slept with him.
21:46Yeah.
21:47Text messages and, of course, the famous thong.
21:50What was that all about?
21:51Well, um, I was cleaning out the car, and in the back pouch of the passenger side seat,
21:56there was a thong in there, which I knew wasn't mine.
21:59It was too small to be mine.
22:01Um, I asked him where this thong had come from.
22:05He said that he never saw it before.
22:07You broke up with him last week.
22:09I want to make a point here as well.
22:10Uh, respect every person who comes on this show.
22:14You changed religion for this man.
22:16You changed your eating habits.
22:18You say that what really upsets you is the chance that if he's done that to you,
22:23there seems to be one rule for you and one rule for him.
22:25Yeah, because it isn't going to just affect me.
22:28It's going to affect the children as well.
22:30You know, it's wrong if he has done it because I give my life to him.
22:35I changed my way of life for him.
22:37And if he has done that, it just shows how much he did care about me and the children.
22:41You're a nice lady.
22:42This is going to devastate you, isn't it?
22:44Who rang the show, you or him?
22:45Him, because he thinks I've cheated.
22:47You're going to do a lie detector, which I presume you're going to pass.
22:49There's a major doubt in your mind about whether he'll pass or not.
22:52But you say anything and he's gone.
22:54Yeah, 100%.
22:55And I'm the one that's going to be laughing because I'm going to go home to my three children.
23:00And he's going to be on his own.
23:01You're a nice lady.
23:02Let's not prejudge him.
23:03Zahna's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
23:05It doesn't look good though, does it, to be fair?
23:15Yeah, I know.
23:16I mean, you know, a thong in your car, where did that come from?
23:20They showed me that thong.
23:22She showed me.
23:23She only told me, she said, I'll find underwear on your car.
23:27And she didn't show me.
23:28I didn't see it.
23:29But there was underwear on your car?
23:30I don't know.
23:31I got no idea.
23:32The car only I bought you two weeks.
23:33Why would she make it?
23:34Well, you bought the car, so it was the ex-owners done.
23:37What it is?
23:38What about the woman on the phone saying that you'd had sex with her?
23:41Do I answer the phone?
23:42She was answering the phone every day.
23:44The woman on the phone making a phone call to my phone.
23:46You look very guilty to me.
23:47I don't.
23:48Are you going to pass the test?
23:49I do.
23:50I do.
23:51And what if you fail?
23:52Do you understand that she says that's it?
23:53Yes, I know.
23:54Yes.
23:55And you phoned the show.
23:56Let's just bear this in mind.
23:57You phoned the show because you said, Michael, I'm going to come here.
23:59I'm going to prove that I haven't done anything wrong.
24:01Yes.
24:02Yes, I do.
24:03Why do you think she's a cheat?
24:04I don't.
24:05She make me like this.
24:06She accuse me like this.
24:07I accuse her like that.
24:08I don't say.
24:09It's not a very good relationship.
24:11But she don't trust me.
24:12He says I will pass a hundred percent.
24:14I would not lie to the woman that I love.
24:16Yeah.
24:17The truth is though.
24:18Yeah.
24:19You've got two kids.
24:20Yeah.
24:21Tell him what this means today.
24:22It is.
24:23You tell him.
24:24Everything.
24:25Yeah, I know.
24:26Listen to her.
24:27Because you know it's me and you.
24:28You have cheated on me.
24:29You know you've lost everything.
24:30Okay.
24:31I've never stopped me from seeing you a kid.
24:32I know.
24:33You're a good dad.
24:34That's why I come here.
24:35That's the way.
24:36We're fighting the truth.
24:37Let's do what we came to do then.
24:38We'll do double lie detector results and we'll start.
24:40with Leanne.
24:41Do you really think she's cheated?
24:44Like I told her, I trust her seventy-five percent.
24:47I do.
24:48I do.
24:49I do.
24:50We asked Leanne since the start of your relationship with Zahna.
24:54Have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
24:56She said no.
24:57Why did you say no?
24:58Telling the truth.
24:59Of course she was telling the truth Zahna.
25:01Absolutely.
25:02I'm into the fence.
25:05We asked him since the start of your relationship with Zahna.
25:07Have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
25:09She said no.
25:10I was telling the truth.
25:12Yeah, fill in the gaps.
25:13She was telling the truth.
25:14Absolutely.
25:15And since the start of your relationship with Zahna.
25:19Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
25:20She said no.
25:21In England we call it a full out.
25:23She passed every single question.
25:25Thank you very much indeed.
25:31Let's just repeat why you doubt him.
25:33A thong in the back of the car.
25:35A phone call from a woman saying,
25:37I slept with your husband.
25:38You say this isn't true.
25:39This is wrong.
25:40This is in her mind.
25:41I can't breathe.
25:42Well I don't know who's phoned me.
25:43Never ever.
25:44How sure are you you're going to pass this test?
25:46Hundred percent.
25:47What about you?
25:48I don't think he's going to fail.
25:49We'll see what it means to you.
25:51We asked Zahna since the start of your relationship with Leanne.
25:54Have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
25:56He said no.
25:57Why did you say no?
25:58I'm telling you the truth.
25:59He was telling the truth.
26:06Since the start of your relationship with Leanne.
26:07Apart from the one time you admitted to.
26:09Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
26:11Have you kissed somebody before?
26:12Yes I do.
26:13And you know about that?
26:14He told me yesterday.
26:15You what?
26:16He told me yesterday.
26:17You only told her yesterday?
26:18Yes.
26:19What did you tell her?
26:20Well I was about two and a half years ago.
26:25But I think you told her yesterday because you thought you'd be caught out on the test.
26:29What I told her?
26:30No answer the question.
26:31Yeah.
26:32Because you knew that the lie detector test.
26:33I told her I apologise.
26:34Right.
26:35But you only told her yesterday because you were coming on this show to do a lie detector.
26:38True or false?
26:39I know.
26:40I told her I apologise.
26:41He did that so that we'd be able to ask this question.
26:42Since the start of your relationship with Leanne apart from the one time you've just admitted
26:46to.
26:47Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
26:48He said no.
26:49Guess what?
26:50Lying.
26:51Your husband was lying on that question having changed it.
26:53Go on.
26:54Tell me the test's wrong but you got the first question right.
26:58You got the first one right.
26:59You didn't sleep with anybody.
27:00You've kissed more than one person haven't you?
27:02I don't.
27:03No.
27:04I swear to God.
27:05Yeah of course you do.
27:06I don't.
27:07Since the start of your relationship with Leanne apart from kissing if you had any other sexual
27:09contact with anyone else he said no.
27:11Your husband was lying on that question as well.
27:13I don't.
27:14And before you be quiet a minute.
27:15I don't.
27:16Before he tells me right that this is wrong bear in mind he passed the sexual intercourse
27:20question.
27:21I don't.
27:22Your gut instinct was right darling.
27:23I don't.
27:24You're not having it.
27:25Not yet.
27:26See you later matey.
27:27No let me talk to you one second.
27:28Listen.
27:29Listen.
27:30I swear to Quran.
27:31I swear to...
27:32Listen to me.
27:33You promised me that you've never done anything.
27:36Listen to me.
27:37Listen to me.
27:38Listen.
27:39I swear to God.
27:40Apart from that I don't do nothing else.
27:41I've given you everything.
27:42I've given you everything.
27:43I'm given the world.
27:44I swear to God.
27:45That's it trust me.
27:46I swear to God.
27:47Apart from that girl I don't do nothing else.
27:50I swear to God.
27:52Trust me.
27:53Trust me.
27:54You know I love you.
27:55No you don't.
27:56I love you.
27:57You accused me for years of cheating on you.
27:59I don't.
28:00I don't.
28:01You called me all the names under the sun.
28:02Yes you did.
28:03I don't.
28:04I swear to God.
28:05Apart from that time I didn't touch women.
28:07No cursing nothing.
28:08So this is lying.
28:09I swear to my kids lying.
28:10This is lying.
28:11So I must be lying now.
28:12I swear to my kids lying.
28:13I must be lying.
28:14I swear to God.
28:15I swear to God.
28:16Ask him if the question about sexual intercourse is wrong because you passed that one.
28:24You were all happy when you passed it.
28:26Don't even try it with me.
28:27Apart from one case.
28:28I don't know nothing else.
28:29You had sex.
28:30No.
28:31You passed the sexual intercourse question.
28:33You went oh the test's great.
28:34You failed the next two.
28:35And you only told her you kissed this woman yesterday.
28:37You're as shifty as anything.
28:38Only.
28:39Only.
28:40She's changed her religion.
28:41She's changed everything for you.
28:42I only kissed one woman.
28:43And you treat her like that.
28:44She's right.
28:45I don't.
28:46One rule for you.
28:47I don't treat her bad.
28:48Look at her.
28:49Good lady.
28:50Nice lady.
28:51I don't treat her bad.
28:52I hope she kicks you to the curb mate.
28:53No.
28:54Apart from that I did nothing else.
28:55I swear to God.
28:56You're a liar.
28:57You're a liar.
28:58You're a liar.
28:59You're a liar.
29:00I swear to God.
29:01If I do anything wrong I will tell you.
29:02Why would you take the Lord's name?
29:03Why don't you just face it yourself?
29:04No.
29:05If I know I always fell for something.
29:06I will tell her before I come here.
29:07Really?
29:08I will tell her.
29:09You know what?
29:10You know last night.
29:11You are a typical example of a person who admitted a little thing to think you get away
29:13with the rest of it.
29:14No way.
29:15No way.
29:16Last night he was asking me just let's go home.
29:17Let's get the train and go back home.
29:18I've admitted to you a little kiss.
29:19Let's go home.
29:20I don't.
29:21I just told you.
29:22And this is why you wanted to come back home.
29:23So why would it lie?
29:25Why don't you tell the truth?
29:26But from one kiss.
29:27On more than one occasion you kissed somebody and you had sexual contact.
29:31Admit the truth.
29:32Apart from one kiss and then nothing else.
29:34I swear to God.
29:35Apart from one kiss.
29:36You know what?
29:37I've got one thing to say.
29:38I hope everything was worth it.
29:39I hope it.
29:40Apart from one kiss.
29:41For like six months knowing that you ain't got your wife and kids waking up fit to you
29:45every morning.
29:46The woman that skived over the cooker for ya.
29:48Done your washing for ya.
29:50Bent over backwards for ya.
29:52This is the way you repay me.
29:53Yeah.
29:54This is the way you disrespect me.
29:55After I changed everything.
29:56I lost my family and everything.
29:58We have to put the other side.
29:59We have to put the other side.
30:00Although of course he won't admit it.
30:02There wasn't intercourse.
30:03It's not something you can forgive you're saying.
30:05No.
30:06I'm not going to say you should.
30:08I'm not going to say you shouldn't.
30:09I can tell you one thing there.
30:10You know my kids daddy served ten times more than this.
30:13And I'm going to just be there for my kids from now on.
30:16Who needs a man when you've done a man right now.
30:18We don't stop you.
30:19We don't listen to you.
30:20We don't listen to you.
30:21This is yeah.
30:22I'm not going to tell my kids what you've done to me.
30:27Leanne I swear to god.
30:28Apart from one cares and nothing else.
30:30Is it?
30:31You all liars Anna?
30:32What are you going to do Leanne?
30:33I swear to god.
30:34I'm going.
30:35I'm going on my own.
30:36You're on your own from now on.
30:37Why don't you sit with Graham and why don't you leave with him?
30:40Because she doesn't want to know pal.
30:42It's finished.
30:43I told you you failed this test and it's over.
30:44You don't listen to me.
30:45No?
30:46Steve I'm not interested.
30:47Okay.
30:48Maybe your ball doesn't last any longer.
30:50I don't.
30:51I think you're a really nice lady.
30:52Sit here with Graham darling.
30:54Can I just make a point that's really important.
30:55It's and and grey would know this.
30:57People come the whole time here and they they make ultimatums and you'll find that I always
31:02say that don't send me you don't mean and if you want to talk to him and there's anything
31:05that we can do we will do that as a show but I also know because I heard what you said
31:10to us that you've made many sacrifices.
31:12Loads.
31:13And that gut feeling wouldn't go away and I don't know what G thinks but we set our own
31:18level don't we?
31:19Yeah.
31:20And I think the best thing to do right now is just let the heat get out of this and then
31:26you can make a decision can't you?
31:27Oh the decision's final.
31:28That's it.
31:29She ain't good.
31:30Do you know what?
31:31I am not going back.
31:32Never.
31:33I left him last Wednesday.
31:34We split up.
31:35I went he went to his flat I stayed at home and I would never have gone back until he said
31:40I'll take you on the show and prove it.
31:42Okay.
31:43That you're not going to do anything.
31:44It's all going to come back that you haven't done anything.
31:48Then we'll take it from now.
31:49I have to move on.
31:50I'm going to leave you with Graham.
31:51I think you're an incredible lady and I'll tell you something hand on heart.
31:53If you can say strong you're absolutely right because we set our own level and you deserve
31:57a hell of a lot more.
31:58Give her a round of applause.
31:59We'll leave you great.
32:00Thank you very much indeed.
32:05Good luck to that lady.
32:06Really really wish her the best.
32:08Right my next guest today Demi suspects her best mate slept with her boyfriend after a
32:12late night of drinking.
32:13Now to make matters worse the girl in question is now 12 weeks pregnant.
32:17The dates add up.
32:18But is Demi right to worry?
32:20Big day for her.
32:21Give her a round of applause.
32:22Demi's on the show guys.
32:23Hello.
32:24You've got middle set.
32:26You're right.
32:27You're nervous.
32:28Yeah about right.
32:29Yeah about right.
32:30Um.
32:31Has my boyfriend got my best friend pregnant?
32:35This is you and Don.
32:36Yeah.
32:37I mean you've been with Don quite a long time.
32:39Yeah two and a half years.
32:41Um.
32:42Sophie the girl in question is now 12 weeks pregnant.
32:45Your mate?
32:46Yeah.
32:47So why would you suspect?
32:48Tell us what.
32:49Because we all had a drink and erm like my boyfriend's that I live with him.
32:54Right.
32:55I got my mate round Sophie and he got his friend round.
32:58And then erm I had a little bit too much drink and I felt sick.
33:02So I felt like I said I'm gonna go to bed.
33:04You think that he what?
33:05Went and had sex with her?
33:07I don't know.
33:08I don't know if he has but it's just that.
33:10But you've accused him of that.
33:11Yeah.
33:12You're on national television saying has my boyfriend got this girl pregnant?
33:15No.
33:16Well erm.
33:17Is that her?
33:18Yeah.
33:19And what are you gonna do if this is not right?
33:21If they're telling the truth and this is in your mind.
33:23You've said some terrible things about her and terrible things about him.
33:26Have you thought about that?
33:27Yeah I have.
33:28And I'm gonna apologise to him if it aren't.
33:30But it just like.
33:31When erm.
33:32I.
33:33When it all happened.
33:34I was getting told off his mate.
33:36She come back 20 minutes later for a charger.
33:38But yeah.
33:39When I was going to bed.
33:41She was arguing.
33:42Asking him for a.
33:43The dates to be fair.
33:44She has 12 weeks pregnant.
33:45And the dates add up don't they?
33:46Yeah.
33:47Yeah they do.
33:48And that's what's scaring me the most.
33:49Because she's pregnant.
33:50And obviously.
33:51And he absolutely flatlining.
33:52He says this didn't happen.
33:53This is in your brain.
33:54I wouldn't have sex with this woman.
33:56Yeah.
33:57But you don't believe him.
33:58I do believe him.
33:59But I just like.
34:00I need to come on this show to just see it.
34:02Like.
34:03So that's Sophie.
34:04Yeah.
34:05Today we'll do lie detector.
34:06We'll get the truth.
34:07Sophie's on the show.
34:08Sophie.
34:09Welcome to the show.
34:10You say I am sick of the accusations.
34:11Nothing happened between me and Don that night.
34:12And I ain't carrying his baby.
34:13Yeah.
34:14How do you feel being accused then?
34:15Tell her.
34:16Obviously.
34:17Erm.
34:18I haven't done it.
34:19As long as I know I haven't done it.
34:20But she says that you've got a reputation.
34:21Despite the fact on the one hand she says you're best mate.
34:22She says you do that.
34:23Well that's fair enough then.
34:24No but what I don't get as well right.
34:25Talk to her.
34:26Erm.
34:27Erm.
34:28Erm.
34:29When I start speaking to you I argued about with you over at dinner.
34:30We had a big argument.
34:31Yeah.
34:32And then you ring my, you ring mine and Donald's phone and then because we didn't pick up you
34:33turn up at my boyfriend's flat without even like us saying to come round.
34:37To see you.
34:38Would I do that to you?
34:39Would I do that to you?
34:40Would I go round to your boyfriend?
34:41So what?
34:42You still like you.
34:43I didn't confirm that you could come round.
34:44Can I, can I just go back to the night in question where she had a headache or felt sick.
34:49He came back into the living room.
34:50What happened to you?
34:51Well you don't get as well right.
34:52Talk to her.
34:53Erm.
34:54When I started speaking to you I argued about with you over at dinner.
34:56We had a big argument.
34:57And then you ring my, you ring mine and Donald's phone and then because we didn't pick up you turn
34:59up at my boyfriend's flat without even like us saying to come round.
35:02To see you.
35:03Would I do that to you?
35:04Would I go round to your boyfriend?
35:05So what?
35:06Would I go back into the living room?
35:07What happened?
35:08Look at me.
35:09Yeah he was in the living room but there as well or whatever.
35:13How long was he in the living room for?
35:15Not long because I got a taxi and then the taxi come.
35:18I went back for my charger and then that's when I got accused of.
35:21I got told off erm, his mate that you come back 20 minutes later for the charger and then
35:26I got told off you, you come, you come back and got the charger while the taxi was there.
35:29And then I got told off Donald that erm, you didn't come back at all.
35:32That's what I got told.
35:33I got told three different stories.
35:35That's why she's confused.
35:36Yeah.
35:37So Donald said you didn't come back.
35:38Did you go back?
35:39Yeah I did and that's on the door.
35:40So why would Donald say you didn't go back unless he had a guilty conscience?
35:42I don't know.
35:43The results have been in the envelope so we'll see them over.
35:46But you absolutely say I got in a taxi and then I came back because I'd forgotten my charger.
35:51I knocked on the door from the charger.
35:52You've made it like this.
35:53You've made me think this.
35:54You have because I didn't speak to you for what, four weeks?
35:57And then you're like, Donald told me to tell you to delete his number.
36:01Yeah.
36:02And then you text me saying, you text my boyfriend saying can you get Demi to ring me as soon
36:06as possible and then go erm, and then when I ring you you go, oh, guess what, I'm pregnant.
36:12Let's get the man in question out who's looking slightly shifty backstage.
36:16Donald's on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
36:17Give her a round of applause.
36:26Did she come back for a charger?
36:27As far as I know, no.
36:29But she did.
36:31How did she go?
36:32Because I was asleep.
36:33Because I was asleep.
36:34How would she get in then?
36:35I was in bed.
36:36I was asleep.
36:37My mate let her in.
36:38My mate let her in.
36:39Did you have sex with her?
36:40No.
36:41Did she go from believe you?
36:42I don't know.
36:43I'll never give her a reason not to believe me.
36:45And why else I don't believe you?
36:46To be honest, because when you come round, when you turned up without us, like, not letting
36:51us know like you was coming, he would not sit in the living room.
36:54I went in the bedroom to get ready because I was in my pyjamas.
36:57And he would not, like, go in the living room.
37:00The only reason-
37:01That was because you-
37:02You both looked awkward.
37:03You both looked awkward.
37:04You both looked like you couldn't, like-
37:05Well, maybe it was the accusations, love.
37:07They didn't want to be allowed.
37:08Yeah, it might have been, but I just need to see him.
37:09Donald, did you have sex with Sophie?
37:11No.
37:12You gonna pass the test?
37:13Definitely, 100%.
37:14What's it been like for you, then, these accusations?
37:16Oh, it-
37:17Tell her, tell her!
37:18It's been a nightmare.
37:19It's put me through.
37:20It's been stressing me out.
37:22Yeah, well, I understand.
37:23It's put me through a lot.
37:24Yeah, well, I understand.
37:25Listen to him.
37:26But I understand where she's coming from in a way where Demi's coming from because you-
37:30She would stop speaking to her after all this.
37:32And then she rings me, I'm saying that.
37:33And then she texts saying, get Demi to ring me as soon as possible.
37:36What is that about?
37:37Telling her that you're pregnant when you know she's accused me of going near you.
37:40When you know that I've accused you of going near my boyfriend.
37:43You must understand yourself.
37:44I do understand where you're coming from, but you'll find out-
37:47You're just doing it to make yourself-
37:50Did you sleep with him?
37:51I didn't sleep with him, no.
37:52Did you sleep with her?
37:53Is this in your head?
37:54It might be, but-
37:55But what if she's right and that baby is his and they did do it?
37:58Why am's then?
37:59I'm leaving.
38:00I'm leaving, that's all I've got to say.
38:02So there's all important lie detector results, please, as ever.
38:05The questions that were asked have Donald, the answers that he gave,
38:08and whether indeed he was telling the truth or not on the show.
38:11You gonna pass?
38:12And if you do pass, then I owe you both an apology, and that's all I can say.
38:15We asked Don, since the starting relationship with Demi,
38:18have you had sexual intercourse with Sophie?
38:20He said no.
38:21Why'd you say no, Donny?
38:22Because he was telling the truth.
38:23Of course he was telling the truth, love.
38:31I'm sorry, Sophie, and thanks for coming on here.
38:33Since the starting relationship with Demi, have you had sexual contact with Sophie?
38:36He said no.
38:37He was telling the truth.
38:39I'm sorry.
38:40I'm sorry.
38:41I'm sorry.
38:42Since the start of your relationship with Sir Demi, have you passionately kissed Sophie?
38:48He said no.
38:49Listen, love, he passed everything, and she deserves a massive apology from you.
38:53He passed every question.
38:54Give him a round of applause.
38:55Give him a round of applause.
38:56I'm sorry, Bobby.
38:57You didn't know that.
38:58I am.
38:59I'm sorry.
39:00I really needed to know.
39:02I really, I did.
39:03You need to do more than go, sorry.
39:05Yeah.
39:06Look at her.
39:07I know.
39:08I'm sorry, Sophie.
39:09But really, I needed to know, and I really appreciate your coming on here.
39:12I really don't.
39:13Because you've helped our relationship so much.
39:16And thanks.
39:17What about you?
39:18I'm still stressed, huh?
39:20There's a lot of stress on this stage.
39:22Mm-hmm.
39:23Can you have a friendship with this lady in time?
39:25We'll see how it goes.
39:26Talk to her.
39:27Don't know.
39:29I don't know.
39:30Will it happen again?
39:31Will it get argues again?
39:32Do you know what I mean?
39:33No.
39:34I don't know.
39:35I don't know.
39:36But it's not her.
39:37Here's the thing, darling.
39:38It's not her, and it's not him.
39:41I admit, I am very insecure.
39:43I am very paranoid.
39:44All I'm saying is, this might have worked out okay, and he might be cool, and you and
39:48she might get it back on.
39:49But if I didn't come on this show, then...
39:50No.
39:51I'm not having to go at you.
39:52I'm simply saying...
39:53I would have lost my boyfriend.
39:54But what you need to do now is look in the mirror and go, that paranoia, that insecurity,
39:57whether it's with Don, or a mate, or anybody else...
39:59It's with both of them.
40:00In the end, it's going to drive everybody away.
40:02So I need to take control of that and do something to change my life.
40:04That's what I'm saying to you, right?
40:05No.
40:06Because paranoia, that old friend, it destroys things, right?
40:08Yeah.
40:09And it's awful.
40:10And everybody's been there, right?
40:11But unless you get through that, you will never, ever be happy.
40:13We're going to talk to you about that backstage.
40:14Can we ask the three of you to go that way?
40:16Is that all right?
40:17Yeah.
40:19Give them a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
40:20Right, next, after the break, we hear from a guy who married his partner of 14 years,
40:27who confessed a truly dark secret only after he walked her down the aisle.
40:31More lie detector.
40:32Right, I'm back next.
40:33Don't go anywhere.
40:34Two months before the wedding, you confessed to having had sex with his neighbour for four years.
40:38We haven't done anything else at all, and that's why I'm here today,
40:41to prove all the whole relationship to nobody else.
40:43But I know it's no excuse.
40:54Thank you very much indeed.
40:55Welcome back.
40:56My next guest today, Andy, says that he married the love of his life after 14 years together.
41:00However, he fears that this marriage won't last until their first anniversary,
41:03after she made a shocking confession.
41:05Big day for this guy.
41:06It's an emotional day as well.
41:07Andy's on the show.
41:08Give him a round of applause.
41:09How are you, Dan?
41:13What a story.
41:14What a story, innit?
41:16Um, and I've heard, do you know what?
41:18What I was, I was thinking about this when I was reading it this morning.
41:20How many times have I heard people who are together for a long time,
41:23and then they get married and something happens, but, just, just tell these people,
41:28having been with her for 14 years, and I know you love the bones of her,
41:31two months before the wedding, what did you discover?
41:33I found, um, it was a document from the, um, ah, they call them, pharmacists,
41:40that she'd been and got, um, a morning after pill, and she denied it was hers.
41:45But the next day, found out it was hers.
41:48You'd had a vasectomy.
41:49Yeah.
41:50You'd found paperwork.
41:51And two months before the wedding, what did she admit to you?
41:54That she slept in an affair for about, well, she says four years.
41:58Four years she'd been having an affair.
41:59But I think it's longer than that.
42:01Um, this is, this is what, I mean, I don't want to upset you,
42:04because she's your wife.
42:05Yeah.
42:06But not, not content with that.
42:08After you get married, she then tells you more.
42:11Well, I tried to get her to come here before we got married,
42:13to make sure there was nobody else.
42:15And she said she wouldn't do it.
42:17Wasn't that sort of ring a bell in your head?
42:19Yeah, but, hearts are stupid, really, aren't they?
42:22In your heart of hearts, do you think that she's done more?
42:25Er, yeah.
42:26And what happens if she has?
42:28I'm moving back down south, or I'm moving to Amsterdam.
42:31That's where my kids live.
42:33That's where his children live, Amsterdam.
42:37I've got two boys in my first marriage.
42:39You know, we set our own bar in life, I keep saying it, you know,
42:42if you allow people to treat you in a certain way, they'll keep doing it.
42:44I don't want to prejudge this lady, but this is massive for you this day,
42:48and I can tell they can hear what it means.
42:50There's luck, guys, on this.
42:51It's not just me, it's our daughter as well.
42:53They've brought up since she was six weeks old.
42:56Make or break today?
42:57Yeah.
42:58You all right?
42:59Er, yeah.
43:00Nice guy.
43:01Bless your heart.
43:02Thank you for the Carl Show.
43:03APPLAUSE
43:06The Great British Public.
43:11So two days, or what is it, two months before the wedding,
43:15you confessed to having had sex with his neighbour for four years?
43:18I did, yeah.
43:19It was just five one-night stands over a four EP.
43:22It's a bit low, isn't it, love?
43:23It is, yeah.
43:24It is.
43:25I don't think many men watching this would have gone anywhere near you.
43:28No, they wouldn't.
43:29So why did he?
43:30Because you got him right where you want him?
43:31No, it's not a case of that at all.
43:32I haven't been to anybody else.
43:33But you still didn't tell him the whole truth, did you?
43:34Because then you got all the way down the aisle and then you told him.
43:36What else did you tell him?
43:37Yeah, I did.
43:38I saw him that.
43:39I had sexual contact.
43:40But I haven't done anything else at all, and that's why I'm here today,
43:42to prove over the whole relationship to nobody else.
43:44But I know it's no excuse.
43:46You've done it twice to this nice guy, and do you know what?
43:50I know, having met you and met him, you think you've got him exactly where you want him
43:55because he's a nice guy.
43:56I don't at all.
43:57Well, what sort of woman behaves like that?
43:58A selfish one.
44:00Blokes get slaughtered the whole time, but when women do it, we're all supposed to go.
44:04It's emotional.
44:05You're as bad as any man that cheats.
44:12Andy, tell this lady what this has done to you.
44:16Because I don't think she truly knows.
44:18Tell her.
44:19She knows it's hurt me a lot.
44:20Tell her.
44:21And she knows I've cried over it.
44:22I'd make jokes out of it.
44:23So if I didn't make a joke out of it, I'd cry my eyes out.
44:26And I wouldn't stop.
44:27Let's do those lie detector results, please, Will.
44:35How old's your child?
44:3614.
44:37And this is a child of hers that you brought up?
44:39Yeah.
44:40From six weeks.
44:41From six weeks.
44:42You're someone else, you are, aren't you?
44:47We asked Angela since the start of your relationship with Andy, apart from the one man he knows
44:52about, have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
44:56She said no.
44:57She was telling the truth.
45:00So you've had intercourse with one, yeah?
45:01Since the start of your relationship with Andy, apart from the two man he knows about,
45:06have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
45:09That was sexual contact during the intercourse and sexual contact with another man, yeah?
45:13She said no.
45:14I take no pleasure from telling you she was telling the truth.
45:18Precisely.
45:19Well done.
45:20Since the start of your relationship with Andy, apart from the two man he knows about,
45:23have you passionately kissed anyone else?
45:25She said no.
45:26She passed the test.
45:27But you know what, Andy?
45:29You're worth a million times of that woman.
45:31Seriously.
45:32You know what I can't get?
45:39Do you know what, do you know, do you know what stuck me?
45:42Yeah, look at this.
45:43Look at this guy.
45:44Genuine.
45:45Look at that.
45:46Genuine nice guy.
45:47You?
45:48Should have meant something to you.
45:49Didn't mean anything to you, did you?
45:50Me, he did.
45:51What did it mean?
45:52It meant everything.
45:53Why don't you prove it to him or tell him then?
45:56I do, I love him to bits.
45:58And I'll never ever cheat on him ever again.
46:00Ever.
46:02I'd walk over hot coals for you.
46:05You promised me you wouldn't do that before.
46:07Yeah, no, but like I said, I was going to pass.
46:12You can love somebody, right?
46:14And you can want it to work.
46:15But sometimes there is too much water under the bridge.
46:18And if the rest of this can be resolved, fantastic.
46:23And I can believe that that might be the case with her.
46:26But I also know that there's no point in being in a relationship
46:29where you desperately want to think it'll be alright.
46:31And you do your head in on a daily basis because too much has happened.
46:35I think you're worth more than that.
46:37Now, if you can believe her and you can stop fretting, brilliant.
46:41From the day I met her, Christmas Eve, 14 years ago, I knew I would spend the rest of my life with her.
46:50Make a promise on camera that you'll never cheat on him again.
46:52I'll never cheat on him again.
46:54You're going to have to understand, if this is a process that we work on you with, you're going to have to understand his insecurities and his doubts.
47:00And you're going to have to resolve to help him.
47:02Yeah, I will.
47:03We'll do more of this backstage with Graham, yeah?
47:05Good to meet you.
47:06Thank you very much, Steve, for coming on.
47:07Go that way.
47:08Give him a round of applause.
47:11Doing this job, you realise it takes all sorts to make a relationship right.
47:14We wish them the best of luck.
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