00:00leader of the social democratic party in scotland craig houston joins me he's live in calais welcome
00:06to the show craig pleasure to have your company you sent me through some astonishing footage
00:10earlier on you've been down there by the illegal migrant camps you've been in and amongst it tell
00:16us what you've been seeing this chaos martin absolute chaos i started off in dover uh two
00:23days ago and seeing the amount of coming in through one source which was the uh the border
00:28force picking them up out of the sea i then noticed that the boats the ferries are still running but
00:33nobody's talking about stowaways so i'm curious to find out and i will be looking more into that
00:38um so i then got a ferry over on tuesday sorry wednesday morning and started driving around
00:47cali dunkirk area and it was just crazy i arrived in cali i went straight to the town center and the
00:54first thing i found within two minutes was a mini camp set up in the middle of a residential area
01:00and a lovely canal setting and i was just astonished i then drove up towards dunkirk and halfway there
01:06i saw a lot of people heading towards an area and i was curious to find out what was there and the
01:12pictures are shown just now is is what i found when i got there and then there was no tents there so i
01:17thought where do these people sleep so i started driving around about that's a mile radius from that
01:23position there and i started finding very small camps five to ten tents each almost everywhere
01:29scattered over the country i spoke to police there i went south of cali i spoke to police down there
01:35i asked them where the migrants were and they said everywhere between bologna and um dunkirk
01:41and almost up to the the belgian border now that's about 50 miles as a crow flies i'm not sure how many
01:47miles the way a coast goes but when you've got these things spread across that um massive mileage
01:54it sort of concerns me as to where are they all going i know where they're all trying to come and
01:59that's to our shores and it just concerns me about the actual official figures if they're right i know
02:04the ones coming in through border force that are picking up the ocean are right because i was there
02:08when there was people counting them but i'm just concerned now my next task is to find out what the level of
02:14um storeways and the the dinghies that they're not catching that are coming under the cover of
02:20darkness so yeah it's been an interesting couple of days martin and thank you very much for giving me
02:25this experience a pleasure mate and craig i tell you what you mentioned something else that that
02:30sent a chill down my spine you say you have information that the people smugglers are also
02:36using people coming over illegally to ferry drugs into britain is that right yeah yeah well it's a big
02:42claim i spoke to a man who works at the port i'll not give away his job because uh he kind of needs
02:48his job but he has been out in the waters he has seen recovered dinghies and what he told me was
02:54there were scatterings of used condom wrappers on the floor dozens of them now i kind of think 70 or
03:0180 men on these boats i don't think they were having a mad party so what were they doing with these things
03:06the only thing i can think of is using it to conceal something to put into their orifices
03:11so that was do you know what made me think about this martin there was an interview i saw today in
03:16gb uh no gb news sorry good morning um and they were asking this migrant how did you pay for the trip
03:22now some of them tell you quite easily how much and how they paid for it and some are a bit
03:26well um my parents paid it and i don't really know and it was transferred from a village and all these
03:31sort of great answers kind of think i now have a an option and what's happening here and they're not
03:37paying at all some of them might be doing jobs in lieu of payment and that's another scary thing
03:42and you know what it would absolutely make sense there they know no compassion they know every
03:48depravity to get people to become living drug mules who don't pay a fee for their carriage and yet
03:55they are carrying a cargo heaven knows where inside them i wonder how routinely and how methodically
04:01they are searched when they get to dover i would say probably not that much craig houston it's
