In this exclusive episode of The Sanchez Effect on Forbidden News 🧠📺, Errol Musk sits down in Moscow 🇷🇺 to speak openly about his son Elon Musk’s recent fallout with former President Donald Trump 🇺🇸🤯. “It’s all just emotions,” he says, revealing a personal side to the tech billionaire’s world rarely seen by the public. Errol also takes aim at the growing censorship in U.S. media 🚫🗞️ and shares his perspective on the current struggles facing South Africans today 🇿🇦💬. Don’t miss this rare and raw conversation only available here 🎙️🔥. #ErrolMusk #SanchezEffect #ElonMusk #DonaldTrump #ForbiddenNews #MoscowInterview #USMediaCensorship #TruthMatters #RTExclusive #SouthAfricaCrisis #WesternMedia #DeepState #RealNews #UncensoredVoices #ElonVsTrump #FamilyTension #PoliticalTruth #MediaManipulation #WakeUpWorld #BehindTheScenes #GlobalPerspectives
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00:00so when the president of the United States and the richest businessman in the entire planet
00:15bicker and they exchange nasty and very personal accusations the whole world obviously leans in
00:22because they want to know what's going on it's natural for people to want to know what's happening
00:27in a situation like that they want to know what's going on well something happened that is changing
00:33things when it comes to this bickering this argument is it news actually it is and it's news
00:39that happened across just as i was sitting down for a discussion with elon musk's father
00:46which you're about to hear for yourself and see for yourself i'm rick sanchez this is the effect
00:52of real journalism let's do this
00:57elon musk has posted what sounds like an apology to donald trump did you see this here it is
01:07let me put it up for you he writes i regret some of my posts about president trump last week they
01:15went too far so there it is there's mr trump saying so by the way his father elon musk's dad had
01:23criticized him for this squabble with mr trump and he told him to try and work it out some way son
01:29this news of him i guess working it out uh occurred just as i happened to be sitting down
01:36with mr musk who happened to be in moscow look i know this breakup and makeup stuff between mr trump
01:45and mr muck mr musk sounds more like uh material for a soap opera right then it is real news but let me
01:52tell you something else though this is important let me tell you why i think it actually is important
01:57that it is news it's about over spending i got a chart for you take a look at this look at this chart
02:03i know it's kind of hard to fathom these crazy numbers because they get so big but look instead
02:10at just look at the trend see that trend we start in the year 2000 with what what 1.79 trillion
02:16dollars now the u.s is soon going to be spending in the next couple of years more than eight trillion
02:21dollars spending right now we're about seven trillion by the way now that's crazy look at
02:29that chart it just keeps going up and up and up and up no matter who it doesn't matter who the
02:33president is it doesn't matter if the democrats are in control it doesn't matter if the republicans
02:37are in control it just doesn't but here's the real problem here's the real problem with all of
02:42us the taxes that the u.s takes in from citizens like me right who pay u.s taxes only amount to
02:49about half maybe three quarters of that spending so where's where's it coming from where's the rest
02:55of it going right i'll tell you where congress borrows it or prints it why though would they then spend
03:05more money than they actually have knowing that that's not good policy well because they're lobbied
03:12they're paid they're given campaign contributions from certain companies like defense contractors to
03:18make sure that the spending keeps up and up and up and up so what does that have to do with mr trump
03:24and uh mr musk well it's all about this on this vote the yeas are 215 the nasa 214 with one answering
03:35present the bill is passed wow i like the way they applaud themselves but should they be congress is
03:48applauding itself when it passes mr trump's bill but elon musk criticizes it why because that big
03:54beautiful bill as they call it as it's being called was supposed to start undoing all that spending that
04:00has been taking place since the year 2000 but did it no in fact based on projections this new big
04:07beautiful bill is big yes but beautiful no listen to what this respected moderate u.s senator
04:15he's a republican said about his own colleagues passing this bill which i guess he passed too
04:21and he talks about his own party members when he's talking about this bill with uh tucker carlson
04:27okay so we're going to spend over seven trillion this year how much do we take in in tax receipts
04:33every year about 5.1 so we've got a structural deficit of around six percent right now cbo's projecting
04:39over the next 10 years six percent so federal revenue will be according to cbo 18.1
04:44even though it's about 17.1 but they're they're projecting that we're going to increase i have an
04:49automatic tax increase next year so they bumped that to 18.1 and federal spending is going to be
04:55about 23.4 23 and a half percent uh so that deficit spending where does that money come from
05:02we borrow it or we print it so now total government spending is about 40 percent it's three times what it
05:11was back less than 100 years ago and i would argue as government grows our freedoms necessarily recede
05:20as government grows freedoms recede think about that he's so right that's the point that elon musk
05:30has been trying to make that's his criticism now should he have done it so publicly well
05:36was it also important for him probably it also depends on you know how long you think the u.s can
05:44continue to spend and spend and spend without consequences if it's a long time then maybe
05:48you shouldn't scream about it but if it's a short time then maybe not yes it's by far the richest
05:54country in the planet there's no question the united states has a lot of money a lot of money
05:58but we're starting to see cracks
06:02see these riots although based on immigration in this case in los angeles like the january 6 disturbance
06:15that was based on politics still it's all about angry lower and middle class people in america that
06:21know something is wrong they know something is wrong because they feel it and you know where they feel
06:27it they feel it in their pocketbook look trump has said he wants to cut there's no reason to think
06:35that he's not going to try and cut musk says i saw what you cut and it's not enough is he seeing
06:41something the rest of us don't see perhaps an urgency that maybe we don't understand i'm not an economist
06:48he's not alone and his father his father earl musk will tell you that his hunches are usually right
06:59here now my interview with the father of mr musk earl musk
07:06earl there's so much that we need to talk about because i think i i can't wait to hear what you
07:20have to say about uh the united states about russia south africa lots of topics but something has just
07:26happened as we were preparing uh this post just came in from your son i'm going to read it to you
07:33as i as i'm getting it right now it says i regret some of my posts about president trump last week
07:42they went too far this is your son talking about the president united states and that feud they had
07:49yes well it's very good to hear that very pleased to i'm very pleased to hear that very pleased were
07:55you upset when you were hearing about this feud they were having this nasty initially i couldn't
08:01quite grasp what the problem you know what it was but it's important to realize that they've been
08:07four months or at least maybe five months of intensive you know stress daily that almost you could say day
08:15and night and um anyone doesn't matter who it is you me anybody um placed under that sort of stress
08:22you you you once you've cleared the opposition which is what they were trying to do
08:27once they were able to be uh free of uh of all hindrances they found that they found themselves
08:35in an arena the two of them and uh how do you get out of that mode you just keep on
08:40you know what with whatever's left and that's sort of what happened and obviously uh you know
08:47you don't even hear from the so-called liberals they're not even in the in the in the crowd at the
08:53arena they they're gone do you think your son went too far with some of his comments or do you think
08:58mr mr trump went too far with some of his comments as well well yes you know uh all everyone does
09:03depending on the level of stress yeah you know um i mean what's the worst thing people have said
09:09when they when they arguing with one another i'm gonna kill you yeah that's just uh words yeah and uh
09:16later you you find them in the uh dining room or in the pub or in the uh in their home having a drink
09:23together and you know wishing everybody would just forget about them you know your son has a strange
09:30way about him he's so brilliant obviously just by the measure of what he has accomplished in his life
09:38but to look at him his character is um not common in sometimes the way he does things what
09:45do you know i'm being very careful how i say this because i want to be kind about it no no of
09:50course where does that come from and do you recognize it yes i do recognize it in the males in
09:54our in our family are tend to uh be first we somewhat technically orientated people yeah um we tend to
10:03focus very when we focus on something the males some worse than others i think elon is probably the
10:09worst uh we to the exclusion of everything else so you could even be in conversation with elon
10:15in what you think is a deep conversation and in the middle of talking with him he will just get up
10:21and walk away seriously yes and everybody he just his thoughts went somewhere else yes yes and if you
10:29were watching carefully you'd have seen you might have noticed that he's he's he was looking at you
10:34but he's he had latched onto something else yeah yes and uh so an interesting story that i told
10:41is that um when he was in grade two the principal of the school yeah goodnight school uh in the best
10:49town in at the time in south africa pretoria um called me and said he has to see me the next day
10:56of course i knew it must be about elon one of the things elon had a again it comes back to this thing
11:02with trump with president trump and that is that uh if you annoyed elon when even when he was a little
11:09boy when you when i say annoyed if you said to him if an adult said to him when he was reading a
11:14book because he was quite an avid reader at quite a young age yeah uh you know from about nine i'd say
11:19they would say to him he'd have some thick book usually the lord of the rings or something like that
11:24and some adult would say to him um are you reading that or look at the pictures and he'd say i'm reading
11:30are you stupid or something wow you know just blurted it out yeah so i had to i as a child i used to say
11:39to him you know you can't do that you're not allowed to say to people that uh it's but then he'd say to
11:44me but they're stupid i say yes i i know but if he thinks he says if he thinks something he says yes he
11:49says yeah and then i say yeah but you can't say it even if we i agree with you they are a bit stupid
11:55but but anyway so at the school let me tell you the story so the school i really i thought oh my
12:01god he's told the teacher the teacher's stupid so i uh went the next day you know full of trepidation
12:09and uh went into the office and there was an older lady sitting there regging her hands
12:14and um that was the teacher and the principal very fine man and i sat down and i said well what is it
12:21and then they immediately started by saying we believe your son is retarded
12:26so i that's nice to hear about your son yes i simply used that word because it was 70s i mean
12:36yeah they didn't you know nobody's you know they didn't worry about words in those days you know
12:41academically challenged no no we think you'll we believe your son is retarded yeah uh and needs a
12:46special school you need special schooling he needs to go to special school so i i uh knew you
12:52know i mean i didn't think elon was retarded but i was really very relieved to hear that he hadn't
12:58said the teacher is stupid you see yeah so i was kind of happy you know big smiles on my side
13:04we can sit here and play armchair psychologist or psychiatrist and try and figure out is it add
13:11d is it this is and we have all these labels for things now but people have different personalities
13:17and it seems to me like yeah sometimes his focus isn't there but my god look at the product of his
13:23own i don't know what he's done yeah i mean small talk is not his thing that's it huh yeah it's not
13:29his thing so yeah you know if you earl you you're a brilliant engineer i mean the things that you've
13:35accomplished in your life and it seems like you wanted to pass that on to him ever since he was
13:40little you would take them to your job projects and make them lay brick and make them run wire and
13:45and well not lay bricks but certainly everything else yeah yeah construction they would be exposed
13:51to it so we you know i was putting up high-rise buildings huge in fact i was one of the four
13:57developers the biggest shopping center in the southern hemisphere yeah and so obviously they would
14:02come with me and some places i would fly to take them with because it was easier to take both of the
14:07boys with me yeah to a site i had a very fast aircraft and they would come with me the contractors
14:13would spoil the hell out of them you know chocolates and sweets which i'd later regurgitate in the plane
14:18sounds wonderful but um but uh yeah they so so they saw everything and uh yeah they really did see
14:25everything is that why he's so analytical is that why elon is so good at figuring problems out
14:31yes i think he is able to see the whole picture of something you know so that's very important
14:38when you're going to do something it's good that you you can see the whole picture in front of you
14:44uh like maybe some great artist might see his portraiture or something that he's doing can see
14:50it in his head before he does it and that's a lot of what i would say elon is about and my other
14:56children well and i have to ask you this because i think this is interesting because this goes to the
14:59heart of the argument that he's having right now with mr trump mr trump is being criticized
15:04mr mr mr trump is being criticized not only by elon musk but by many people for this budget seven
15:12you know the united states my country is about to get ready to spend in total spending seven trillion
15:20dollars that's what they're budgeting from now on moving forward yeah that's crazy money and it just
15:27keeps going up and up and up and a lot of people especially on the right are saying you know mr
15:32president we we've got to stop i mean how much money can we give to the military how much money can we
15:37send overseas we've got to control this and that's the point that elon's making yes it's a good point
15:43is it yes of course he sees the whole picture on the other hand maybe i'm prepared to admit maybe
15:51maybe donald trump sees an even bigger picture so so it's not to say elon is right but he's certainly
16:00right up to a point and i actually did go so far as when this business started two weeks ago to drop a
16:09note to him saying please let this fizzle out and then i added i know it's not good to print money on
16:16goods that have not yet been produced but sometimes it's a great spur in a in an economy to print money
16:25before the goods are produced to to ensure that something actually takes actually happens yeah so
16:31that's an interesting way of looking at it is well this is i'm not an economist economist but it is
16:37an aspect of economy you know that tendency of him to lash out when he sees something big picture that
16:43is wrong is the same thing he's doing now as an adult with me it's very much uh it worries me you
16:48know yeah he's you know um recently uh when they said they were going to reduce the h1b visas you know
16:56he came up with a phrase which he said i will if some anyone in the face who wants to this is very wrong
17:04it's it's it's somewhat childish it's it's slashing out yeah and um on the other hand you don't want to
17:12change people's personality they must be who they are you know he's also been arguing and i think
17:18making the point that we need to intervene because things are a little out of control in south africa
17:23he thinks there's almost a reverse racism that's taking place in the country you know south africa as
17:28well as anybody is that the case well um not from the ordinary in the street people but from the
17:36black policy makers in government in order to justify whatever it is they're doing they try to of
17:43course you know uh give the impression that all all difficulties in the country are can be laid at
17:50the feet of the of the europe white or european people uh or the white people who live there so
17:58you know you do have a lot of sort of reverse racism at government level can whites and blacks
18:04get along in south africa is well they've been getting along for for a very long time for you
18:10know hundreds of years um each bringing their own sort of contribution that they are capable of uh to the
18:17to the party and so as a result uh the the south africa and countries around it grew very well
18:24uh over the period of uh you know let's say the last 200 years are white farmers being discriminated
18:31against and is there a threat that people the government wants to take their land yes no i wouldn't
18:37say that's the sense we get is it true what what's happened is we don't have a very uh the government
18:43is not very good so that as the president himself has said uh of south africa he he's he's hamstrung
18:51by a poor civil service so over the uh last uh 30 years after inheriting a very very highly
19:00organized country uh equal to any other country on earth uh first world country i mean uh they've let
19:08things like home affairs there's no home affairs to speak of department there's no uh railway depo
19:15the railways are gone the airline is gone the hospitals for the people hardly exist um you know
19:23everything is just gone and one of the things it sounds like just government mismanagement what
19:27you're describing massive mismanagement yeah massive misuse of funds so the result is it's not it's not
19:33um reverse racism it's it's uh people who are desperate you might say as well uh or gangs that are
19:41just out to loot who see a small little house in the in the middle of nowhere with some people in
19:49it and just go in and take what they want and in the process kill the people in the house sounds
19:54economic yeah it's economic and opportunistic of course robbery you know and lack of ethics nobody's
20:01going to come after them yeah and uh and so that's what you've got it's it's opportunistic robbery
20:07speaking of money i want to ask you about nato and the united states and ukraine especially since
20:14you happen to find yourself today in moscow it seems like between the united states and
20:19nato and these european countries they continually pumping hundreds and hundreds of billions of
20:26dollars into ukraine so that ukraine will be fighting what seems to be a proxy war even according to
20:33a lot of people around the world now with with russia what do you make of that well you know
20:39um i'd start off by saying saying what elon said because again um i've had my own thoughts on the
20:45whole thing and much along what you've just been saying and um then let's take what elon uh said
20:52in about uh march early march this year having looked at having started working in the government
21:00and so forth elon said that um and again i must just say coming from elon you're talking about
21:07something coming from a sort of uh robotic type in the world if you understand what i mean it's not
21:13as though he's trying to win votes or anything like that right he says what he thinks yeah he says
21:18what he what he what he believes right and he said uh ukraine is the biggest graft machine in human
21:25history corruption stealing theft uh wrongdoing you name it malfeasance that all falls under graft
21:33yeah and uh so coming from elon if that had come from some politician you know you might say well
21:39he's just looking for votes from certain group side or something like that no no but coming from elon
21:44it's it's the it's the brain that's telling you something it's an ai you could almost say telling
21:51you something you know and um yeah so if you start with that then from my own point of view it's
21:57pretty obvious that um the ukraine uh was used by nato peak countries some of the nato countries
22:04to provoke uh russia into uh being uh concerned and then about something right on their border of course
22:13ukraine was always for hundreds of years part of part of russia you know part of the terrorist russia i
22:18mean so the whole thing is a bit odd so this foreign policy being carried out by germany my own
22:23country the united states your son's country um and the brits and uh the french for example are they
22:33just doing this because it's it's a money game like let's let's make bombs and let's make planes
22:39and make sure we got a place to use them so that when they disappear we can make more bombs and more
22:43planes it's just a simple yes you know eisenhower warned uh you know when he was leaving office
22:49he said the biggest threat to the united states is the industrial military complex yes um and um that
22:55was the actual words he used down the biggest threat we've got is the industrial military complex beware he
22:59said yes something to that beware of the military industrial complex and uh and yes obviously i i
23:05couldn't help uh not hearing mitch mcconnell and he answered the one question when that when he was
23:12told look at all this money going from you know 100 billion going to to ukraine from us how can we do
23:19this and then he replied by saying don't worry it all comes back to us it's all coming back but in
23:26the process that's the man that's the head of the senate saying don't worry it all comes back he's a
23:33terrible man for saying something like that that's what he said thing to say because what are you
23:37dying while you're making money sir yeah the money's coming back where is it coming back but i imagine
23:41he meant it's coming back to the industrial military complex we're making planes and every time a plane
23:47crashes or every time a bomb goes off somebody in america goes cha-ching i just got richer it's cash
23:54register going and i don't think that's what your son is saying when he's telling the president that
23:58we've got to pull back on spending so much money i think like you say it's a big picture thing
24:03but what he's saying agrees and is pretty much in line with what a lot of people are trying to push
24:10a lot of the administration the new administration folks to do it do you think mr trump will eventually
24:15get that i think he will oh look you know he's a very brilliant man um uh he's a very gifted man
24:22we can be very thankful for donald trump the people were quite unhappy in america everybody we met
24:28you know under the biden time and worrying about you know actual americans and and family and
24:35wondering what are we going to do where are we going to go you know because america's set to be
24:41ruined yeah is the feeling people had and elon put voice that he said uh sometime in september or so
24:49last year if we don't elect donald trump uh there will be the end of civilization in north america
24:55um that's elon talking again maybe talking about too much of a bigger picture but that's what he
25:00said one of the reasons i'm here and i think probably deep down maybe one of the reasons you're
25:04you're here in moscow is i really feel that uh war and peace is one of the most important issues of our
25:11time i really worry about nuclear war world war three and i think it's imperative that my country
25:18the united states of america finally at least establish some kind of healthy relationship with
25:23russia yeah even if they disagree on things but right now we've been in a standstill how important
25:28do you think that is well it's essential i mean um russia is a major player it's not a mini player
25:35it's a major player it's the biggest country on earth yeah with the most resources you might say
25:40biden actually terminated uh negotiate talks or the connection with russia he made it illegal for me
25:48earl as a journalist in the united states to even talk about russian issues or represent russian media
25:55he made it illegal to do journalism well you know biden has been thoroughly discredited and by now
26:02and uh people now realize that he wasn't in fact the president he was simply a doddering character
26:09you know uh doing whatever he was told and uh we now see that a lot of the stuff that was signed
26:17off was auto penned which means that a lot of the legislation is probably not legal somebody else
26:23was running the country yeah somebody else was running the country yeah so you believe there is
26:27an administrative state or a deep state in america well yes well yes there's always been a deep state
26:33the deep state is the people who in every country yeah you know the people who have the biggest vested
26:40interest in property and the biggest vested interest in factories that they that you know
26:47they have the most to lose um and they are not necessarily in a position to be elected to
26:53to a political office but at the same time they have great interest in having a political uh situation
27:00that is sympathetic to to to to the to their deep involvement in the country and you would call that
27:07in the deep state but a lot of people were pulling for your son the people the reason people were
27:12excited about seeing your son get a position in government unofficial as it was because he was
27:17going to go after those sons of bitches he wanted to get rid of those people well not get rid of all of
27:24them but get rid of those who's who seem to have an agenda which was contrary to what america stood for
27:31now for elon america stood for a place that he could go to from a country that was effectively
27:39quite dysfunctional at the time and for him america was the promise like heaven it was it was as as i
27:46remember my one daughter my daughter she's not 31 the second from the youngest she alexander she um
27:55went to america when she finished school immediately we were able to send her to america
28:01about 2012 2013 or something like 2012 and she wrote back she said dad i can't believe it i can't
28:08believe that i'm here i have so many bffs on a funny note i thought bff stood for something quite
28:15different i was quite surprised that's what happens when you get when we get to our age we learn new
28:22terms i heard it stood for best friends forever because i thought it stood for something else let me
28:28ask you a couple of quick things and before we wrap up here first of all your relationship now with
28:32elon very good very good yes you guys chat you talk well you know i don't need to fear that in
28:38their lives i have two sons by the way you know kimball kimball equally uh brilliant equally wonderful
28:45more handsome i think too oh i wouldn't say that no father would say something like that don't say
28:52that to elon no i think they're both beautiful uh you know they are elon doesn't kimball is more
28:57takes care of his looks elon couldn't care less what he looks like you see but um no um we uh kimball
29:05and i had lunch recently in abu dhabi uh with one of the shakes so that was wonderful just quite a
29:11couple of months ago so you do have a good relationship still oh yes yes absolutely and then elon and i
29:16you see i they had it would be much the same as when i was their age or younger even and my father
29:23never interfered in my life and asked me when i practiced as a consulting engineer uh he never
29:28offered any opinion to me so because i would have not listened you know and in the same way now um
29:34because he came from a different yeah generation didn't know about what i was doing and in the same
29:39way now i don't interfere in in their lives but you love your son you love of course of course we talk
29:45about um we talk about family if we talk you know somebody in the family needs this or doesn't need
29:51this or should we or shouldn't we or should somebody move or this you know this kind of thing so i have
29:57to ask you here you are in moscow like me i've only been here four weeks and i'm just getting to know
30:03this place and i've got lots of impressions what are yours well moscow i didn't know what to expect
30:10i was a victim of uh you know movie uh uh propaganda of of moscow i thought it's all dark
30:18shadows and deep dark alleys and shadows you know like the third man with orson wells or something
30:25like that what i saw first of all was just women and children women and little children beautifully
30:31dressed beautifully dressed little children i arrived on a weekend and uh everywhere just one
30:36beautiful woman and children beautiful woman with little children everywhere and uh and and
30:43beautiful buildings that totally you know literally were breathtaking and uh i thought well this how do
30:51i not know about this you know and uh i've i did a river cruise last night uh on the river moscow yeah
31:00and it was quite long and um we we did quite a long uh bit of uh river and um i can say with confidence
31:09uh moscow is by far not by a little by far the most beautiful capital city on earth let me see if you
31:18can check off some of the things that i noticed too about moscow no crime no no and cleanliness clean
31:25the cleanliness is is is is remarkable green green yeah mode right tended family oriented yes and
31:33children and women uh pushing their cards do you know little children being tried it to keep up
31:42or come back but do you know what you and i just described what what the west wants to be yes what
31:48you what we described is what what what we aspire to uh you know what i would aspire to so why do we
31:56hate these people in my own country we don't hate these people no i mean why does the media in these
32:00countries constantly like a program they've got an agenda they're following an agenda and the agenda
32:06is to uh discredit this place uh for some obscure reason right and uh you know so uh i don't think
32:14it's that obscure somehow it's it's to do with uh uh money and and uh and and of course frightening
32:22people in their own countries into uh accepting rules and regulations or new laws that are not in
32:29the people's interests yeah on the ground on the grounds that it protects them from russia yeah yeah
32:34and you know they're lying they're lying they're lying they're lying they're lying that's uh i must say
32:41you know i was fooled for a long time me too me too so yeah i i was a typical dupe um 10 years ago
32:47i was a total dupe uh you know so more or less a total dupe yeah uh you believe what you read
32:53well i watched cnn yeah exactly i used i'm sorry i used to be the one talking to you on cnn when i
33:01started looking at listening to people on cnn and something in the head my head was saying to me
33:05this is not right what these people are saying you know and this would be happening more and more
33:12and more but before that i never did that and slowly i started wanting to find other sources of
33:19information and um i found i suppose you could say i found fox news better more more made more sense to
33:28me and then uh quite honestly and quite without without the slightest uh um um this truth in it
33:40or whatever it is i uh actually saw rt yeah uh we used to have rt and then i actually found myself
33:48going to rt and it sounds like i'm being proper no no i understand yeah the truth i went through the
33:55same process yeah and then i would go to rt to see what's really going on not to say that i i just
34:02thought i'd get a better uh better story they'd tell me something else at least different well i see
34:07something that wouldn't make me uh say wait a minute that's not right you know what i mean but i was
34:14watching stuff starting about 2015 on uh cnn and and and the others like cnn some of the others
34:22and saying that that's not true that's not right that's not true my own experience or something
34:29was telling me something wrong here and then of course soon i it became more and more evident more
34:34and more evident i mean today no one even bothers to take the slightest notice of cnn you know it's
34:41funny it's it's media in the united states now that seems controlled messaged uh by corporations and
34:48people in the government who are bought by those corporations and that's unfortunately what we
34:52have which is why uh what what we're doing what i think i'm trying to do here in moscow and what
34:58my friend tucker carlson and uh uh others are doing now and they're getting more people to watch them
35:04so i think it's the future no doubt about it i mean there's a revolution you could call it a revolution
35:08yeah so um you are not alone you're part of that revolution and uh thank you and in my way also a
35:18little bit a part of that revolution and so uh i tell other people and and i see i don't have to tell
35:26them so much anymore they know before i even tell them that's great you know and that could be anywhere
35:31it could be in america could be relatives in america friends in america it could be people in south
35:37africa they already know before so there is the fact is uh cnn and these organizations like them
35:44nbc in america and bbc and as well oh they're the worst that they they nobody believes them anymore
35:50nobody takes the slightest notice of them they just don't take any notice of them they they they're hot
35:56air and uh if you put the tv on you might just sit turn the sound off just just if you're alone at
36:02home just so that there's some movement to around the place listen i want to thank you for this
36:08open exchange these ideas by the way thank you nobody sent you notes on what you had to say or you
36:14would be shot or anything like that right just you and i having a conversation sitting here in your
36:19hotel room and uh you're a fine gentleman thank you so much sir for taking time to have this
36:24conversation i think it's really illustrative for a lot of people to be able to hear some of your
36:28ideas and uh how your son elon became to be your son elon thank you very much thank you really i
36:35appreciate it we appreciate it thank you
36:37did you hear some of the father and the son or some of the son and the father let me know i'd be
36:46interested as i was listening to the sound of his voice and his tone by the way that's our news but
36:52before we leave you i want to remind you to check out my podcast it's on youtube by the way it's called
36:57journalistically speaking go there if you get a chance i think you'll like it we call it j speak
37:01for short by the way so it's not such a long term you can also talk to me about this interview or
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37:29look for you next time good night
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