00:00An Italian war correspondent and leader of the Italia UNITAR movement.
00:03A very warm welcome to you today, sir.
00:05Thanks very much for joining us here on RT.
00:07I know you know this story back to front because Russia's top negotiator,
00:11Vladimir Medinsky, are confirming the Ukrainian side did not show up
00:15to pick up the first portion of the 6,000 bodies that Russia was ready to return to Ukraine.
00:20We understand we've seen footage of these refrigerator freezer trucks
00:23with, well, bodies inside positioned along the Bryansk border region.
00:28Why do you think Kiev has, A, postponed the pick-up
00:32and is not actually even following through with the pick-up right now
00:36of its own fallen soldiers?
00:39Well, what we can observe is that Ukraine now is acting like a mouse in the corner.
00:45This is why also they do several terroristic attacks on Russia.
00:50And we see that now Russian forces are 20 kilometers far from Sumy
00:56and they are attacking in each direction.
00:59And the main problem for Ukraine is that the official numbers of the losses,
01:08of the missing in actions from the Ukrainian army are very, very few in the official data
01:16that Zemensky and the Kiev regime and the minister of defense Ukraine released to the public.
01:21And then there are the facts that are the bodies and there are the facts,
01:25the prisoners that actually captured.
01:27And so Ukraine, first of all, doesn't want to admit that they lose so many people.
01:34Second of all, they don't want to pay money to the families of the soldiers that died in the conflict.
01:40So we see that now, again, Zemensky needs to see the reality.
01:49And it's completely different from the propaganda of Western media.
01:52Yeah. Well, I mean, how do you think, Amadeo?
01:54I mean, how do you think the government will explain this move to the families of the servicemen
01:59whose bodies will not be returning to Ukraine?
02:01Or is it because this legislation in Ukraine is that a soldier can only be declared dead
02:06if he's missing two years after the conflict is wrapped up.
02:10Maybe Zemensky is thinking, I'm not going to be here in two years.
02:12I don't need to tell the families anything.
02:14I'm going to line my pockets and buck out of town.
02:18Well, actually, Ukraine and Zemensky is not anymore a democracy since a long time.
02:27There are no elections in Ukraine.
02:29There is absolutely no freedom of speech.
02:31There is no freedom in general in Ukraine.
02:33There is also the case of the American journalist Gonzalo Lira that got killed over there
02:38for the American audience that are listening to us.
02:41So we see that because they absolutely don't take care too much about the public opinion
02:50and about what the public can think about their actions anymore in Kiev.
02:56Yeah.
02:57That's what I see.
02:57Well, I wanted to ask you, I mean, look, I get it, $2 billion or euros, however you want
03:05to translate it, it's still a lot of money in compensation to the families of those deceased.
03:09But I'm just looking at the numbers here.
03:11You know, you combine America and the EU, they've sent well over $250 billion to the Kiev regime.
03:19Don't you think there's enough left over to pay those poor families?
03:24For sure, there is still some money that Kiev can use for compensating the family.
03:33But the fact is that now with Trump's administration, the weapons that the West sent to the Ukraine
03:40are not more for free.
03:42But now Ukraine has to pay for the American weapons with the money that Europe gives.
03:50So it's and these all American weapons to compare to the Chinese or Russian weapons are very overpriced.
04:01This is why they are very, very expensive.
04:03And so Ukraine now is in difficulties also with the money that they need to pay to America for this weapon
04:11that America is ready to give, but just for a high price.
04:16But a lot but a lot of these weapons, mate, a lot of these weapons have been wound up being sold on the black market.
04:20I saw a report from I think it was U.S. intelligence.
04:23It said something like anywhere up to a third, a third of the amount of weapons being sent to Ukraine end up on the black market.
04:30So not only money going to Kiev, but these weapons as well, they're cashing in.
04:34They're cashing in on a lot of these weapons, mate.
04:36So, you know, where is all this money going that really does need to be found out and audited?
04:42Meantime, I'll let you go on this question.
04:44An unnamed official, I won't mention any names here, but an official from the Kiev regime said a few days ago,
04:49I'm going to paraphrase, but he basically said now that the war is collapsing for the Ukrainian front,
04:55they're now just going to invest in the next chapter.
04:57He's saying the next chapter is just going to be through acts of terrorism across the Russian Federation.
05:02Your thoughts on that?
05:05As I told before, Ukraine is acting like a mouse in the corner.
05:10So, yes, we should expect new terroristic attack on the territory of Russian Federation.
05:16And all special services are working to avoid that in Russia.
05:19But, yes, it is a trap.
05:23But I think that now, furthermore, yes, there is also the problem that Kiev, since the 90s,
05:30the Ukrainian, which was a country where all the criminal and gangster and different mafia organization
05:38was very active in this country.
05:42This is why also we see, as you told before, a lot of guns that got lost in the black market.
05:47And these same guns now are used in Europe by the criminals and also by the immigrants
05:55that now are organizing gangs in the territory of Europe.
05:59So, Ukraine now is the biggest threat also for the safety of Europe itself.
06:03Interesting commentary right there from Amedeo Avondet, an Italian war correspondent
06:07and leader of the Italia Udita movement.
06:09It's been an enlightening conversation.
06:11Thank you so much for your time.
06:13Thanks a lot.
06:14Thanks a lot.
06:15See you soon.
06:15Thanks.
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