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10:59No, no, no, Chinese students are coming. No problem. No problem.
11:06It's our honor to have them, frankly. Look, we want to have foreign students, but we want them to be checked.
11:12You know, in the case of Harvard and Columbia and others, all we want to do is see their list. There's no problem with that.
11:20This is anybody outside of our country, international students, because when we see some of the people that we've been watching,
11:27we say, where do these people come from? How is that possible?
11:30No, we want to have foreign students come. We're very honored by it, but we want to see their list.
11:35Harvard didn't want to give us the list. They're going to be giving us the list now.
11:39I think they're starting to behave, actually, if you want to know the truth.
11:42On Russia, are you willing to put more pressure on Putin to end the war by imposing new solutions on Russia and also on China?
11:53Well, remember, I'm the one that ended Nord Stream 2, going to a place called Germany, come to think.
11:59I'm sorry I did that. But I ended Nord Stream 2. Nobody else did.
12:04And then when Biden came in, he immediately approved it.
12:06That's the largest, essentially the largest pipeline in the world, going to Germany and other countries.
12:12And by the way, we have so much oil and gas, you will not be able to buy it all.
12:18I mean, you literally, we have so much, and I hope we're going to make that a part of our trade deal,
12:24because we have more than anybody else.
12:25We have actually the most, by far, in the world, probably double what anyone else has.
12:30So we'll work on that. I'm sure that's something we'll discuss today.
12:33Mr. President, what do you expect from Germany, and what do you expect from the Chancellor?
12:38Well, first of all, I'm glad to meet, because I've been dealing with the Chancellor,
12:43and he's a very good man to deal with. He's difficult, I would say. Can I say that? It's a positive.
12:50Go ahead.
12:50You wouldn't want me to say you're easy, right?
12:52No.
12:53He's a very great representative of Germany. I think all we want is just going to have a good relationship.
13:00The rest will just sort of follow very easily. We'll have a good trade deal.
13:04I mean, I guess that will be mostly determined by the European Union,
13:07but you're a very big part of that, so you'll be involved.
13:11But we'll end up, hopefully, with a trade deal, or we'll do something.
13:16You know, we'll do the tariffs. I mean, I'm okay with the tariffs,
13:18or we make a deal with the trade, and I guess that's what we're discussing now.
13:22Mr. President, please go ahead.
13:27Mr. President.
13:27No, no, I'm not going to be with you.
13:29Is Germany doing enough on defense?
13:32Is Germany doing enough on defense?
13:34What?
13:35Defense spending.
13:35Is Germany doing enough on defense?
13:38The Chancellor wants to spend 3.5.
13:42Well, I don't know. I mean, I haven't discussed it very much.
13:45I know that you're spending more money on defense now,
13:48and quite a bit more money.
13:50That's a positive thing.
13:53I'm not sure that General MacArthur would have said it's positive.
13:56Yeah, he wouldn't like it, but I sort of think it's good.
14:00You understand what I mean by that?
14:01He made a statement, never let Germany rearm.
14:06And I said, I always think about that when he says, sir, we're spending more money on defense.
14:10I say, oh, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
14:13I think it's a good thing.
14:14But, you know, at least to a certain point.
14:18There'll be a point when I'll say, please don't arm anymore if you don't mind.
14:21We'll be watching him.
14:23Mr. President.
14:25President Biden, Mr. President?
14:27Yeah, Biden.
14:28You said Biden.
14:29Well, look, the auto pen, I think, is the big scandal outside of the rigged election of 2020.
14:43I think the biggest scandal of the last many years is the auto pen and who's using it.
14:48I happen to think I know, okay, because I'm here and I'm not a big auto pen person, fortunately.
14:54I'm glad.
14:55I'm very glad.
14:56It's an easy way out.
14:57But it's a very bad thing, very dangerous.
15:01You know, I sign important documents.
15:02Usually when they put documents in front of you, they're important.
15:05Even if you're signing ambassadorships or anything, I consider that important.
15:10I think it's inappropriate.
15:11You have somebody that's devoting four years of their life or more to being an ambassador.
15:15I think you really deserve, that person deserves to get a real signature, not an auto pen signature.
15:21And I can tell auto pen easily.
15:23I can look at it like two little pinholes from pulling the paper, right?
15:28You always see the pinholes.
15:30It's real easy to tell about auto pen.
15:32And I think it's very disrespectful to people when they get an auto pen signature.
15:38Outside, auto pen to me are used when thousands of letters come in from young people all over the country and you want to get them back.
15:44And, you know, people use auto pens for that.
15:46To send a little signature at the bottom of a letter where you have thousands of them.
15:52We get thousands of letters a week.
15:55And it's not possible to, you know, I'd like to do it myself.
15:59You can't do it.
16:00But to me, that's where auto pens start and stop.
16:04But I don't think, I don't, I'm sure that he didn't know many of the things.
16:08Look, he was never for open borders.
16:10He was never for transgender for everybody.
16:13He was never for men playing in women's sports.
16:16I mean, he changed, I mean, all of these things that changed so radically.
16:20I don't think he had any idea that what was, frankly, I said it during the debate and I say it now,
16:26he didn't have much of an idea what was going on.
16:29Mr. President, he shouldn't be.
16:31I mean, essentially, whoever used the auto pen was the president.
16:35And that is wrong.
16:37It's illegal.
16:38It's so bad.
16:38And it's so disrespectful to our country.
16:41Mr. President.
16:42The answer is yes.
16:57We'll talk about that.
16:58But if they'd like to have them there, yeah, we've had a, we have a lot of them, about 45,000.
17:04That's a lot of troops.
17:05It's a city, when you think of it.
17:08That's good economic development.
17:09They're highly paid troops and they spend a lot of money in Germany.
17:13But the relationship with Germany is very important.
17:15Yeah, we'll be doing that.
17:16No problem.
17:17Can I say a few words from Dr. President?
17:19Yes, please.
17:20Mr. President, do you speak English because you speak such good English?
17:41Is it as good as your German, would you say?
17:44No, it's not my mother tongue, but I try to understand almost everything.
17:49and I can still speak as good as I can.
17:52Very good.
17:52You know, it's an achievement, actually.
17:55Thank you.
17:55Mr. President, my criticism.
17:58Thank you, Mr. President.
17:59The criticism that I've seen, I'm sure you've seen, regarding Elon Musk and your big, beautiful bill,
18:05what's your reaction to that?
18:06Do you think it in any way hurts passage in the Senate?
18:09Of course, what is your seeking?
18:11Well, look, you know, I've always liked Elon and it's always very surprised.
18:15You saw the words he had for me, the words.
18:17And he hasn't said anything about me that's bad.
18:20I'd rather have him criticize me than the bill because the bill is incredible.
18:25It's the biggest cut in the history of our country.
18:28We've never cut.
18:29It's about 1.6 trillion in cuts.
18:32It's the biggest tax cut.
18:34Tax, you would say, people's taxes will go way down.
18:39But it's the biggest tax cut in history.
18:42We are doing things in that bill that are unbelievable.
18:46And when you look at what we're doing for small businesses, for people, for middle-income people,
18:52all of the things that we're doing, nobody's ever seen anything like it.
18:56And, you know, Elon's upset because we took the EV mandate, which was a lot of money for electric vehicles.
19:04And, you know, they're having a hard time with the electric vehicles.
19:08And they want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy.
19:11And, you know, Elon knew this from the beginning.
19:16He knew it for a long time ago.
19:17That's been in there.
19:18That's been, I would say, J.D., that hasn't changed.
19:21That's been right from the beginning.
19:23Mr. I think, Mr. Secretary, that hasn't changed at all right from the beginning.
19:27But I know that disturbed him.
19:30He wanted, and rightfully, you know, he recommended somebody from, that he, I guess, knew very well.
19:36I'm sure he respected him, but to run NASA, and I didn't think it was appropriate.
19:42And he happened to be a Democrat, like totally Democrat.
19:47And I say, you know, look, we won.
19:49We get certain privileges, and one of the privileges, we don't have to appoint a Democrat.
19:54NASA is very important.
19:55We have great people.
19:56General Cain is going to be picking somebody with our, we'll be checking him out and seeing.
20:04But he wanted that person, a certain person, and we said no.
20:08And, you know, I can understand why he's upset.
20:11Remember, he was here for a long time.
20:13You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval Desk.
20:19And even with the black eye, I said, do you want a little makeup?
20:22We'll get you a little makeup.
20:23But he said, no, I don't think so, which is interesting and very nice.
20:29He wants to be who he is, so you could make that statement, too, I guess.
20:32Look, Elon and I had a great relationship.
20:37I don't know if we're well anymore.
20:38I was surprised because you were here.
20:40Everybody in this room practically was here as we had a wonderful send-off.
20:44He said wonderful things about me.
20:45He couldn't have nicer.
20:46He said the best thing.
20:48He's worn the hat.
20:50Trump was right about everything.
20:52And I am right about the great, big, beautiful bill.
20:55We call it a great, big, beautiful bill because that's what it is.
20:59And, again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development moves anywhere.
21:05We've never done anything like it.
21:07Business is spurred.
21:09And I don't know if you've seen the numbers, but the numbers came out.
21:12Even the CBO, which is run by Democrats, said that we're going to be doing it.
21:17You know, I'd like you to discuss it, the $2.8 trillion that CBO, this is a group of people that are Democrats.
21:25They're very hostile to us.
21:28They just came out with phenomenal numbers what it does.
21:30Do you want to mention that, Scott?
21:32Yes, sir.
21:32So what we've seen is we keep hearing from the CBO that there's going to be a large deficit from the bill, which we disagree with.
21:40But using the CBO scoring, they came out and scored the tariff revenue.
21:46We think it will be the minimum of $2.8 trillion over the 10-year window, which actually puts the bill in surplus if you include the tariff revenue, which they won't do.
21:55It gives you a tremendous surplus, but we're not allowed to use that.
21:59For some reason, they say scoring.
22:02Nobody knows what scoring means.
22:03Maybe a couple of people, but nobody.
22:05Somebody sits in the background.
22:07They say, well, we're not going to allow that.
22:09They're not allowing other things that we have that are tremendously profitable for our country.
22:13But if you saw the other day CNBC, they came out with numbers.
22:19And the people on the show, very good people.
22:20I've watched them for a long time.
22:23They couldn't believe the numbers, how good they are.
22:25The numbers were incredible.
22:26Well, that was personal income and also very low inflation.
22:30We have very low inflation.
22:31We're down to 2% now and maybe even lower than that.
22:35And when I took it over, it was a mess.
22:37Remember, we had the worst inflation probably in the history of our country.
22:41They say 48 years, but let's say that's, I think it's worse than that.
22:46So we had the worst inflation in the history of our country under the Biden administration.
22:51Now we're down to a beautiful number, 2%.
22:55You'd actually like to keep it there.
22:57Better than zero is 2%.
22:58It's going down maybe to one.
23:00And 1% is like perfect.
23:02That's perfect.
23:03You don't want to have zero for certain reasons that nobody is very interested to listen to.
23:09But we have almost perfect inflation.
23:12Grocery prices are down.
23:14Everything.
23:15Remember eggs?
23:16Eggs.
23:16We weren't going to buy another egg for the next 20 years that was so expensive, right?
23:20Remember?
23:21You guys all hit me about eggs.
23:22Eggs have come down 400%.
23:25Everybody has eggs now.
23:26They have eggs for breakfast again.
23:28But if you look at gasoline, very important.
23:31I think always the most important because the energy is the biggest factor.
23:35That's what happened.
23:36He screwed up our energy policy and everything went up because energy went up.
23:41But now energy is way down and they have states where you're at $1.98 a gallon for gasoline.
23:49So the costs have come way down.
23:52And one of the things I ran on was that.
23:55I ran on the border.
23:56We have the best border in the history of our country.
23:5899.99%.
24:00It was last week three people came in.
24:04Two of them for medical reasons.
24:06We let them in because one of them had a heart attack.
24:08I think it was a nice thing to do.
24:10And one of them had something else.
24:12So we've never had.
24:14I had very good numbers for four years.
24:17But we really topped it.
24:19And I want to thank Christy and Tom Holman.
24:21They've done a fantastic job.
24:24But nobody mentions that anymore.
24:25Remember, a few months ago, the border was a total disaster.
24:30People were coming in by the hundreds of thousands of people a day, a week, a month.
24:36I mean, we had a month.
24:37Two million people came in in one month.
24:40The border was being overrun.
24:42And a lot of bad people.
24:44Criminals, murderers, drug dealers.
24:46We had some of the worst people in the world coming in from all over the world.
24:50It's totally close.
24:52And you know what?
24:52People are coming into our country, but they're coming in legally.
24:55So we've done a great job.
24:58Elon knew that.
24:59Elon endorsed me very strongly.
25:01He actually went up and campaigned for me.
25:03I think I would have won.
25:04Susie would say I would have won Pennsylvania easily anyway, even if the governor ran, the
25:09real governor, not the governor from Minnesota, who's, I mean, he's a sick puppy.
25:13That poor guy feels sorry for him.
25:15But they made a bad choice with him.
25:18But if you pick Shapiro or anybody else, I spoke to him recently about his, you know,
25:23his house being set on fire, which was terrible.
25:27But if they picked him, I would have won Pennsylvania.
25:30I won it by a lot.
25:31But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than
25:38almost anybody sitting here, better than you people.
25:41He knew everything about it.
25:42He had no problem with it.
25:43All of a sudden, he had a problem.
25:44And he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV
25:48mandate because that's billions and billions of dollars.
25:51And it really is unfair.
25:52We want to have cars of all types, electric.
25:55We want to have electric.
25:56But we want to have gasoline combustion.
26:00We want to have different.
26:01We want to have hybrids.
26:02We want to have all.
26:03We want to be able to sell everything.
26:05And when that was cut, and Congress wanted to cut it, it became a little bit different.
26:12And I can understand that.
26:13But he knew every aspect of this bill.
26:16He knew it better than almost anybody.
26:18And he never had a problem until right after he left.
26:21And if you saw the statements he made about me, which I'm sure you can get very easily,
26:25it's very fresh on tape.
26:27He said the most beautiful things about me.
26:29And he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next.
26:33But I'm very disappointed in Elon.
26:35I've helped Elon a lot.
26:37I just want to clarify.
26:40Did he raise any of these concerns with you privately before he raised them publicly?
26:44And this is the guy you put in charge of cutting spending.
26:47Should people not take him seriously about spending now?
26:49Are you saying this is all sour grapes?
26:50No, he worked hard, and he did a good job.
26:53And I'll be honest.
26:54I think he misses the place.
26:56I think he got out there, and all of a sudden, he wasn't in this beautiful Oval Office.
26:59And he's got nice offices, too.
27:02But there's something about this one.
27:03I was telling the chancellor, this is where it is.
27:06People come in here, even from Germany.
27:09They come in, and they walk into the Oval Office, and it's just a special place.
27:14World War I, it started and it ended here.
27:17And World War II, and so many other things.
27:21Everything big comes right from this beautiful space.
27:25It's now much more beautiful than it was six months ago.
27:27A lot of good things are happening in this room.
27:31And I'll tell you, he's not the first.
27:34People leave my administration, and they love us.
27:40And then, at some point, they miss it so badly.
27:44And some of them embrace it, and some of them actually become hostile.
27:48I don't know what it is.
27:49It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it.
27:52But we have it with others, too.
27:54They leave, and they wake up in the morning, and the glamour's gone.
27:59The whole world is different.
28:01And they become hostile.
28:03I don't know what it is.
28:04Someday you'll write a book about it, and you'll let us know.
28:06Yeah.
28:06Mr. President, speaking of ending wars in this room,
28:10you were very critical of Vladimir Putin a couple of days ago.
28:12What kind of play is he playing, from your perspective?
28:16What are his ideas?
28:17Well, look, he got hit.
28:19He's been doing hitting, so I understand it.
28:22But he got hit hard.
28:24And I don't think he's playing games.
28:27I think he, I've always said he wanted the whole thing.
28:30I thought he wanted the entire, everything, having to do with Ukraine.
28:36That's something that would have never happened if I were president.
28:38The election was rigged.
28:39I didn't get to be president, but I got to be president now.
28:43And I think it's a much more important presidency,
28:45other than a couple of things like that.
28:48The war would have never, would have never happened.
28:51The war with Ukraine, with Putin, would have never happened, ever.
28:54Not even a chance.
28:55And it didn't happen for four years.
28:57And it wasn't thought of.
28:58I used to talk to him about Ukraine a lot.
29:00It was the apple of his eye, but he would have never done what he did.
29:04And I think mistakes were made by him,
29:07but I think mistakes were made by other people.
29:10The president should have never allowed that war.
29:13Biden should have never allowed that war to happen.
29:16If you had the right guy in here, that war would have never happened.
29:19Israel would have never happened with Hamas.
29:23That would have never happened.
29:24The attack on Israel would have never happened because Iran was broke.
29:29They had no money.
29:30They had no money to give to Hamas or Hezbollah or anybody else.
29:35And all of that would have never happened.
29:37Inflation wouldn't have happened.
29:38It was caused mostly by energy.
29:41And the Biden administration messed up my great energy policy.
29:45We were down into the 190 a gallon.
29:48And it would have never happened.
29:50It was caused by energy and their bad spending on the Green New Scam
29:53and other things that they spent on.
29:55But all of those things would have never happened.
29:57But maybe most importantly,
29:59the war, Chancellor, with Russia
30:03would never have happened with Ukraine.
30:06It was something that would have, you know,
30:09I dealt with Putin a lot.
30:11There was no chance.
30:13Zero.
30:14And, you know, a lot of people say,
30:15how do you know?
30:16For four years it didn't happen.
30:17There was never a chance of it happening.
30:19And he understood the consequences.
30:21Now, it's a shame.
30:24And when you see all of those people,
30:26they came out with a report today
30:27that millions of people,
30:31millions of people have died,
30:33much more than people thought.
30:35And I've been saying that for a long time.
30:37The amount of death in that war
30:39is far greater than the news that's been reported.
30:42Or that, frankly, that either side has been reported.
30:45It's a very sad thing.
30:46And I can tell you,
30:47just speaking for the Chancellor,
30:48because we speak about it,
30:50he feels the same way.
30:51He wants to see it ended.
30:53Would you like to say something?
30:54Absolutely.
30:54And I'm here, Mr. President,
30:56to talk with you later on
30:58on how we could contribute to that goal.
31:02and we all are looking for measures
31:06and for instruments
31:08to bring this terrible war to an end.
31:11And may I remind you
31:12that we are having June 6th tomorrow.
31:15This is D-Day anniversary
31:18when the Americans once ended a war in Europe.
31:22and I think this is in your hand,
31:25in specific, in ours.
31:27That was not a pleasant day for you?
31:28No, that was not a pleasant day.
31:30This was not a great day.
31:31Well, in the long run, Mr. President,
31:33this was the liberation of my country
31:35from Nazi dictatorship.
31:37That's true.
31:37That's true.
31:38And we know what we owe you.
31:40But this is the reason why I'm saying
31:42that America is, again,
31:44in a very strong position
31:45to do something on this war
31:48and ending this war.
31:50So let's talk about what we can do jointly.
31:52And we are ready to do what we can.
31:54And you know that we gave support to Ukraine
31:56and that we are looking for more pressure on Russia.
32:00The European Union did.
32:02And we should talk about that.
32:03We will talk about it.
32:04And, you know, it's good timing.
32:06The numbers for our country are through the roof,
32:09the economic numbers,
32:10because of the election
32:11and because of tariffs and other things,
32:14or a lot of things.
32:15But we've had some of the best numbers we've ever had.
32:18that they were reported yesterday,
32:20the day before, and even today.
32:22The country is doing really well.
32:24I think that one of the things
32:26you'll be most interested in
32:27is that six months ago,
32:29we were having a hard time
32:30getting anybody to join our military.
32:33I mean, they just couldn't do it.
32:34The numbers were record low.
32:36We couldn't get people to join the military.
32:38It wasn't me.
32:39This was before I got there.
32:40The past administration.
32:42But six months ago, a year ago,
32:44the numbers were record low.
32:46and you couldn't get them to join.
32:48That included the police.
32:50And you couldn't get them to join.
32:52Now, we just hit the highest number
32:55in the history of our country,
32:57we think, but very close,
32:59but the highest in the history of our country,
33:01recruitment,
33:02joining the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,
33:06Coast Guard, police forces all over the country.
33:08What did you do for that?
33:09What was the reason?
33:10Spirit.
33:10They love our country again.
33:12You're going to do the same thing.
33:14Spirit.
33:14We have great spirit is back in our country,
33:19and it's very simple.
33:20You know, it was only, Susie, six months ago, right,
33:23that you got reports.
33:24You're the one that released them,
33:25that you couldn't get anybody to join the military,
33:28and now we're stopped.
33:30Every service now is packed,
33:33and we have waiting lists of people trying to get in,
33:35as good as we've ever had in the history of our country.
33:38So that's an honor.
33:39That's a great honor.
33:40Mr. President, on the war.
33:43You've asked.
33:44You've had enough.
33:45Go ahead, please.
33:45Mr. President,
33:46so would you consider to put more sanctions on Russia?
33:50Because this discussion is going on now for weeks and months,
33:53and you tweeted about it once,
33:54but then nothing happens.
33:56What would you do?
33:57When I see the moment when we're not going to make a deal,
33:59when this thing won't stop,
34:02Is there a deadline for you?
34:03That moment, yeah, it's in my brain, the deadline.
34:07When I see the moment where it's not going to stop,
34:11and I'm sure you're going to do the same thing,
34:13we'll be very, very tough.
34:16And it could be on both countries, to be honest.
34:18You know, it takes two to tank up.
34:19But we're going to be very tough.
34:22Whether it's Russia or anybody else,
34:24we're going to be very tough.
34:25That's a bloodbath that's going on over there.
34:29And when I see the moment where I say,
34:32well, they're going to just keep fighting.
34:34You know, I gave the analogy yesterday
34:36when I spoke to President Putin.
34:37I had a two-hour and 15-minute call with him.
34:42Sometimes, and this is me speaking,
34:44maybe in a negative sense,
34:46but sometimes you see two young children
34:49fighting like crazy.
34:50They hate each other, and they're fighting in a park.
34:54And you try and pull them apart.
34:56They don't want to be pulled.
34:56Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while
34:59and then pulling them apart.
35:02And I gave that analogy to Putin yesterday.
35:06I said, President,
35:08maybe you're going to have to keep fighting
35:10and suffering a lot,
35:11because both sides are suffering,
35:13before you pull them apart,
35:15before they're able to be pulled apart.
35:16but it's a pretty known analogy.
35:19You have two kids,
35:20they fight, fight, fight.
35:22Sometimes you let them fight for a little while.
35:24You see it in hockey.
35:25You see it in sports.
35:27The referees, let them go for a couple of seconds.
35:29Let them go for a little while
35:31before you pull them apart.
35:33And maybe, and I said it,
35:36and maybe that's a negative,
35:37because we're saying go,
35:38but a lot of bad blood.
35:42There's some bad blood between the two.
35:44I have to deal with it,
35:45and the Chancellor has to deal with it.
35:47It's incredible.
35:48The level of,
35:48there's a great hatred between those two,
35:51between those two men,
35:53but between the warring parties.
35:55Great hatred.
35:56What do you say and believe,
35:58apparently,
35:59that there's no immediate peace?
36:01What?
36:01That there's no immediate peace.
36:03Well, I can't.
36:04I'd love to have a immediate,
36:05if I could.
36:05But why do you do that?
36:06But we don't have a immediate, you know?
36:09It's like,
36:09I'd love to have that.
36:12I'd like it to start.
36:13Right now,
36:14we would leave a room,
36:15if we knew the war could end,
36:16we'd say,
36:17forget about you guys,
36:18forget about trade, right?
36:20We'd say,
36:21let's go settle it.
36:23There's some additional fighting
36:25that's going to go on.
36:27You know,
36:27he was,
36:28he attacked,
36:29and they attacked
36:30pretty harshly.
36:32they went deep into Russia.
36:35And he actually told me,
36:36I mean,
36:36I made it very clear.
36:38He said,
36:39we have no choice
36:40but to attack,
36:41based on that.
36:42And it's probably
36:44not going to be pretty.
36:46I don't like it.
36:47I said,
36:47don't do it.
36:48You shouldn't do it.
36:49You should stop it.
36:50But,
36:51again,
36:52there's a lot of hatred.
36:53And,
36:54you know,
36:54I'm very proud of the fact that
36:55with India and Pakistan,
36:58I was able to stop that.
37:00And those are nuclear powers.
37:02that would have really,
37:02that was getting close
37:03to being out of hand.
37:04And I spoke to some very talented people
37:07on both sides,
37:08very good people on both sides.
37:11And I said,
37:11you know,
37:11we're dealing with you on trade,
37:13Pakistan and India,
37:14right now.
37:16I said,
37:16we're not going to deal with you on trade
37:17if you're going to go
37:18shooting each other
37:19and whipping out nuclear weapons
37:21that maybe even affect us.
37:23Because,
37:24you know,
37:24that nuclear dust blows across oceans
37:26very quickly.
37:27It affects us.
37:28and I said,
37:30if you're going to do that,
37:30we're not going to do any trade deals.
37:32And you know what?
37:32I got that war stopped.
37:34Now,
37:35I hope
37:35we don't go back
37:36and we find out
37:37that they signed it,
37:37but I don't think they will.
37:39They were both good.
37:40They were well represented.
37:41I want to congratulate
37:43both countries.
37:44because,
37:45as you know,
37:46the leader of India,
37:49who's a great guy,
37:50was here a few weeks ago.
37:52We had some great talks.
37:53We're doing a trade deal.
37:55And Pakistan,
37:56likewise,
37:57they have very,
37:58very strong leadership.
38:00Some people won't like
38:00when I say that,
38:01but,
38:01you know,
38:02it is what it is.
38:03And they stopped that war.
38:05Now,
38:06am I going to get credit?
38:07I'm not going to get credit
38:07for anything.
38:08They don't give me credit
38:09for anything,
38:10but nobody else
38:11could have done it.
38:12I stopped it.
38:13but I was very proud of that.
38:15I wish we could do
38:16the same thing
38:17with Ukraine
38:18and Russia.
38:20And at some point,
38:21it will happen.
38:22I believe that.
38:24And if it doesn't happen
38:25or if I see somebody
38:26is out of line,
38:26if Russia is out of line,
38:28we'll be,
38:29you'll be amazed
38:31how tough.
38:32Remember this.
38:34They like to say
38:35that I'm friends with,
38:36I'm not friends with anybody.
38:38I'm friends with you.
38:39I'm not friends with,
38:40I want the right thing
38:41to happen
38:42for our country,
38:43for everybody,
38:43for humanity.
38:45But I'm the one
38:46that stopped the pipeline.
38:47It's called Nord Stream 2.
38:48Until I came along,
38:49nobody ever heard,
38:50not one person in this room
38:51ever heard of Nord Stream 2.
38:53You probably did
38:54because it went to Germany.
38:56He's the only one
38:57that heard it.
38:57This was a mistake.
38:58but I stopped him.
38:59I stopped it.
39:00Yeah,
39:00and you've said that openly.
39:02It was a mistake
39:02because,
39:03and I used to go with Angela,
39:05I'd say,
39:05well,
39:05wait a minute,
39:06we're spending all this money
39:07to defend you against Russia
39:09and then you're giving Russia
39:11billions of dollars a month.
39:12What kind of a deal is that?
39:13You know,
39:14which was,
39:15but you said it better
39:16than anybody else.
39:17I appreciate it.
39:18But I'm the one
39:19that stopped it
39:20and that was the biggest
39:22economic development job,
39:23if you want to call it that,
39:24in the history,
39:25think of it,
39:26in the history of Russia.
39:27That was a massive,
39:28it's the biggest pipeline
39:29in the world.
39:31Going to go all over Europe,
39:32not only to Germany,
39:33you know,
39:33they're Germany,
39:34but then they were branching off
39:35all over to Europe.
39:36Nobody ever heard of,
39:37not one person
39:38of you heard of it
39:39and I stopped it.
39:41It was dead.
39:42And then they say,
39:43I'm friends with Putin.
39:44I got along with him.
39:46He respected me,
39:47I respected him.
39:48It would have never happened.
39:49But I stopped Nord Stream 2.
39:51When Biden came in,
39:52almost the first week,
39:54he approved it.
39:55He let it be built.
39:57And then they say that
39:58I wasn't tough on Russia.
40:01Putin said to me,
40:02you know,
40:02you're not tough on Russia.
40:03You stopped the biggest,
40:04most important job
40:05we've ever done.
40:06You stopped it.
40:07And Biden came in
40:08and he let it be built.
40:09And I'll tell you what,
40:11I will never forget the day.
40:13I had it totally stopped.
40:14They weren't building.
40:15They gave up on it.
40:16They weren't able to.
40:18And then Biden came in
40:19and he let him build.
40:19I couldn't believe it.
40:21Okay,
40:21one or two questions more,
40:22please.
40:22Any questions?
40:23Any questions for the Chancellor?
40:26Go ahead,
40:26for the Chancellor.
40:29I like his answers much better.
40:31Well,
40:31would you continue
40:33to support Ukraine?
40:36Yeah,
40:36I'm with Ukraine.
40:37We just signed a big deal on,
40:39rare earth with Ukraine.
40:41And we wanted,
40:42I want to,
40:43you know what I'm,
40:44I'm for stopping killing,
40:47really.
40:47That's what I'm for.
40:49Again,
40:49a war that would have never started,
40:51should have never started.
40:52I want to see the killing stuff.
40:53we spent $350 billion,
40:56much more than Europe,
40:57but Europe spent a lot also.
40:59And they spent way over $100 billion.
41:01So you're talking about
41:02close to $500 billion
41:04went into that whole thing.
41:06And it's not even the money.
41:08And I know with you too,
41:09it's a lot of money.
41:11But it's the death
41:13that's being caused.
41:13We went to the Middle East.
41:15I went last week to the Middle East.
41:16because we took in $5.1 trillion.
41:19That's many,
41:20many times.
41:20That's 30,
41:2140 times,
41:2250 times
41:23more than what we're talking about.
41:25It's five point,
41:26think of that,
41:27$5.1 trillion
41:28of investment
41:30with one trip
41:31that lasted four days.
41:32So it's not the money.
41:35It's a little of the money,
41:36but not the money,
41:37the big thing.
41:38The big thing is the death.
41:40The death of,
41:41and really the decimation.
41:43You've lost the whole culture.
41:45You know,
41:46Ukraine had the most beautiful turrets.
41:48They call them turrets.
41:49Little towers,
41:50beautiful towers.
41:51The most beautiful in the world.
41:53They're all now laying on their side,
41:55blown to smithereens.
41:57It'll never happen again.
41:58They've taken away
41:59the culture of a country
42:01They've taken away
42:02the heritage of a country.
42:04It's a terrible thing.
42:05But most importantly,
42:06again,
42:06is the death.
42:075,000 plus people a week,
42:11soldiers,
42:12are being killed.
42:13He doesn't want that,
42:14and I don't want that.
42:15One more.
42:16Yeah, please.
42:18Mr. President,
42:19do you support the Graham bill
42:20on putting high terrorists?
42:23I have not looked at it,
42:24but they'll be guided by me.
42:27That's the way it's supposed to be.
42:28They're going to be guided by me.
42:29No, I haven't looked at it.
42:30It's a bill on sanctions,
42:32et cetera.
42:35I'm a very quick study.
42:37At the right time,
42:37I'll do what I want to do.
42:39But it could very well be okay.
42:41I'll have to see.
42:41But they're waiting for me
42:43to decide on what to do.
42:45And I'll know.
42:47Maybe very soon.
42:48It's a harsh bill.
42:49Yeah, very harsh.
42:50How about one more on the aisle,
42:51right, Mr. President?
42:52I'll take one more on the aisle, okay?
42:53Go ahead.
42:54I would like to have a follow-up.
42:55Do you agree with the analogy
42:59that the President made
43:01on the war between Russia and Ukraine
43:04as being a fight between two kids?
43:06Is that how you view that as well?
43:08And how do you actually want
43:10the U.S. President to do in this?
43:13Well, I think we both agree
43:15on this war
43:16and how terrible this war is going on.
43:20And we are both looking for ways
43:24to stop it very soon.
43:27And I told the President
43:30before we came in
43:31that he is the key person in the world
43:33who can really do that now
43:37by putting pressure on Russia.
43:39and we will have this debate later on again
43:43how we can proceed jointly
43:44between the Europeans and the Americans.
43:47And I think we are all in...
43:49We are having the duty
43:50to do something on that now
43:53to stop it after three and a half years,
43:55which is really terrible.
43:56Look at the kids,
43:58the kids which were kidnapped
44:01from Ukraine to Russia.
44:03This is all terrible.
44:06And so we are talking about
44:07instruments, measures,
44:08what we can do
44:09and my personal view is clear on that.
44:11We are on the side of Ukraine
44:12and we are trying to get them
44:14stronger and stronger
44:15just to make Putin stop this war.
44:17And this is our problem.
44:19We get satellite pictures
44:20of the war field
44:21and you don't even like to look at them, right?
44:25It's terrible.
44:25It's so...
44:26It's really...
44:27Bodies, arms, heads,
44:29legs all over the place.
44:32You've never seen anything like it.
44:33It's so ridiculous.
44:35And this is only by Russian weapons
44:37against Ukraine.
44:38This had never happened
44:40with Ukraine weapons
44:41against Russia.
44:43Never.
44:44Ukraine is only targeting military targets.
44:47Not civilians,
44:48not private,
44:50not energy infrastructure.
44:52So this is the difference
44:54and that's the reason
44:54why we are trying to do more on Russia,
44:57how to stop this war.
44:58Well, in this case,
44:59I'm talking about the battlefield,
45:01you know,
45:01the soldiers on soldiers.
45:02But you could also say that too
45:04with the cities.
45:04The cities are being hit also.
45:06So it's a terrible, terrible thing.
45:08Right.
45:08One,
45:08somebody said,
45:09oh no,
45:10I'm just curious.
45:12because I think it's the biggest scandal
45:13maybe in the last hundred years
45:16in this country.
45:17So when I hear that word,
45:18I think it has to be discussed
45:20because the fake news
45:22will try and,
45:23you know,
45:23hide it
45:24and we can't do that.
45:25That's what I'm asking.
45:26Have you uncovered any evidence
45:27that anything specific
45:28was signed
45:29without President Biden's knowledge
45:30or by other people
45:32in the administration
45:32acting illegally?
45:34Well,
45:34I don't think Biden would know
45:35whether or not he signed it.
45:37I'm asking if you've uncovered
45:38any of that information.
45:38No,
45:39but I've uncovered,
45:40you know,
45:41the human mind.
45:41I was in a debate
45:42with the human mind
45:43and I didn't think he knew
45:45what the hell he was doing.
45:46So, you know,
45:47it's just one of those things,
45:48one of those problems.
45:49We can't,
45:49we can't ever allow that
45:51to happen to our country.
45:52The danger our country was in,
45:54and I know some of the people
45:55that worked with him,
45:56radical left,
45:58horrible people.
45:59And I could give you the name
46:00of some of the people
46:01that used the order pen
46:02because I'm here
46:03and I ask questions
46:04about people
46:05that were here also.
46:06There were a lot of people
46:06that were here
46:07when that happened
46:08and they're here right now
46:09and they'll answer your question
46:11very accurately.
46:12But I know some of the people
46:14that used that auto pen
46:15and those are not the people
46:16that had the same ideology
46:18as Joe Biden.
46:20These were radical left lunatics
46:22that used that
46:23and they didn't get elected.
46:25He didn't get elected either,
46:26actually.
46:27Thank you very much,
46:28everybody.
46:28Thank you,
46:29press.
46:29Thank you,
46:30press.
46:30Thank you,
46:31press.
46:33Thank you.
46:35Thank you.
46:35Grazie.