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02:05I'd like to start this conversation by going back to the very beginnings of the Undertaker
02:09and the World Wrestling Federation.
02:10WSW FEDERATION, was brought to WWF by Brother Love.
02:15What is your relationship with Brother Love?
02:19Well, there is not much of a relationship left with Brother Love.
02:23He was doing, more or less, doing a favor for Paul Verra.
02:29Paul Verra was not able to join me right away
02:32and Brother Love, being the opportunist that he was
02:36Looking to further his career
02:38in the World Wrestling Federation
02:40he stepped in
02:41gladly may I say for Paul Bearer
02:44until his arrangements were
02:45squared away so he could join me
02:48Welcome
02:52Brother Bearer
02:54Now
02:56Brother Bearer
02:58what is your first
03:00name?
03:02Paul
03:02Paul
03:05Bearer
03:08What better man
03:10to guide the career
03:12of the Undertaker
03:13than Brother Paul
03:16Bearer
03:17Yes, yes indeed
03:19Your first WWF
03:22pay-per-view appearance was a memorable
03:24one at Wrestlemania 7
03:25There you faced Superfly Jimmy Snuka
03:28one of the most popular athletes ever
03:29in the history of the WWF
03:31a Hall of Famer of the class of
03:331996
03:34What do you remember about
03:36Wrestlemania 7
03:37and competing against
03:38Jimmy Snuka
03:39Jimmy Snuka
03:40definitely a legend
03:41here in the World Wrestling Federation
03:42all over the world
03:43and I knew
03:45to set my mark
03:47in the World Wrestling Federation
03:48that I needed to do something
03:50I needed to do something big
03:53and
03:53you start with the legends
03:55you knock a legend off
03:56and the course these years
03:58to
03:58to fill from there
03:59You won the World Wrestling Federation
04:02title in 1991
04:04at the Survivor Series
04:05From the outside
04:06it was a blatant attack
04:08by Paul Bearer
04:09OXA with a series of shoulder blocks
04:14what a flying fist
04:17there
04:18by The Undertaker
04:19look at the E
04:24look at the E
04:25he's going to try to
04:27plant him with a tombstone
04:29oh yes
04:31wait a minute
04:34one
04:35come on
04:36two
04:36get out
04:37we got a new world champion
04:39we got a new world champion
04:40we got a new world
04:41the Federation champion
04:42whoo
04:44what a miscarriage of justice
04:46I told you so
04:47if I was a fan of the guy
04:49and new world wrestling federation champion
04:56the Undertaker
05:00Hulkamania is dead
05:02and his dad
05:03won't live The Undertaker
05:06four days later
05:07you lost the championship
05:09at Tuesday in Texas
05:10what was your experiences like
05:12competing against
05:13Hulk Hogan
05:14well at that time
05:16Hulk Hogan was
05:17the top of his game
05:20he was
05:21everyone's
05:22idea of
05:24everything that was good
05:25in America
05:26everything that was good
05:27all over the world
05:28and here I am
05:30facing the
05:31what he liked to say
05:33the immortal one
05:34we've come to find out
05:36that that wasn't true
05:37I knew
05:40if I
05:41if I defeated
05:42the legendary
05:43Hulk Hogan
05:44that
05:44that the Undertaker
05:46was on his way
05:47seven days later
05:50Tuesday in Texas
05:51it was
05:53it was a
05:55humbling experience
05:56for me
05:57yes I lost
05:58but then
05:59Hulk Hogan himself
06:01was stripped of the title
06:02for reasons
06:04Gorilla Monsoon
06:05felt that
06:06you know
06:07there was too much
06:08outside interference
06:09in a match
06:09and this was happening
06:11and that was happening
06:12and the only thing
06:13that really
06:14I can handle defeat
06:16because defeat
06:16makes one stronger
06:17it makes the soul stronger
06:19but it was
06:20disheartening for me
06:22to know that
06:23I didn't get
06:23another title shot
06:25that we had to go into
06:26the Royal Rumble
06:27where there was
06:2830 other men
06:29where I felt
06:30my rightful place
06:31I should
06:32have had the opportunity
06:33to win that title back
06:36as we travel
06:39the course
06:40of your career
06:40certainly
06:41one of the
06:42I would certainly
06:43say one of the
06:43more memorable moments
06:44happened to
06:45occur in the
06:46summer of 1992
06:47SummerSlam 1992
06:49Wembley Stadium
06:49over 88,000 fans
06:52on hand
06:53it was
06:53colorful
06:54it was exciting
06:55the fans
06:56many of them
06:57even dressed like you
06:58but how did it
06:59what was that experience
07:00like
07:01that whole
07:01experience
07:03in the UK
07:03preparing for
07:04and wrestling in
07:06that SummerSlam
07:07the energy level
07:08in the UK
07:09I can remember
07:11back those days
07:12it was phenomenal
07:12the amount of people
07:14that were there
07:15and in support
07:15and on the day
07:28of the event
07:29you know
07:31I'd ever go into a match
07:32not thinking
07:34that I'm going to win
07:35I have to have
07:36that kind of confidence
07:37and I have the confidence
07:38and the ability
07:38and the powers
07:41that I bring
07:42to the ring
07:42but the 88,000 people
07:45and
07:45it was
07:47it raised my intensity
07:48level
07:49even that much further
07:50and the
07:51the fans
07:53of the UK
07:54to this day
07:55are
07:56they must be
07:57some of the best
07:57that it is
07:59to wrestle in front of
08:00it was interesting
08:01to me
08:02as we think back
08:03at your entrance
08:05your entrance
08:06in the hearst
08:06describe that for us
08:09because that had to be
08:10one of the more unique
08:11ways that you ever
08:12came to the ring
08:13right
08:14well
08:14I mean as everyone
08:16is well aware of
08:17one of my strongest
08:19offenses
08:21is
08:21is my ability
08:22to play mind games
08:23to intimidate
08:24I knew
08:25if I could take
08:26Kamala
08:27who was
08:27you know
08:28he's one of the most
08:29feared and one of the
08:30most dangerous
08:30athletes to ever
08:31step in a wrestling ring
08:33and if you can take
08:35someone off
08:35out of their
08:36mental preparation
08:37and when you see
08:39a casket
08:39or if you see
08:41a hearse
08:42I don't care if you are
08:43from the jungles
08:44of Uganda
08:44you know that the end
08:46is at hand
08:47and you have to
08:49you have to put yourself
08:50in
08:50in that situation
08:52is this my last ride
08:54coming to the ring
08:55so that was the
08:56you know
08:57that was the reason
08:58behind the hearse
08:59I just wanted to take
09:00that
09:01I wanted to take
09:02Kamala
09:04and shake him up
09:05before I actually
09:06got to the ring
09:06the fans obviously
09:08reacted
09:09amazingly
09:10on that particular
09:11occasion
09:12and then we move
09:12to
09:13to 1993
09:14you are the odds
09:15one favorite
09:15to win the Royal Rumble
09:16but out of nowhere
09:18comes a
09:19huge man
09:20a man that is
09:207 feet 7 inches tall
09:22approximately
09:24450 pounds
09:26maybe more
09:26the Giant Gonzales
09:28who eliminates you
09:29from competition
09:30in that Royal Rumble
09:31how was it
09:33matching up
09:34you at 6'10 and a half
09:35matching up
09:36with someone
09:37and you going into
09:38the match
09:39as the smaller
09:40of the two men
09:40that had to be
09:41a different ball game
09:42to prepare for
09:43it definitely
09:44took a
09:45I had to take
09:46a different aspect
09:46in preparing
09:47for the Giant Gonzales
09:49although
09:50from 93
09:5292
09:5393
09:5494
09:55I was challenged
09:58by all of the
09:59of the Giants
10:00in the World Wrestling
10:01Federation
10:01but there weren't
10:02very many people
10:03that I had to
10:04to look up to
10:05just
10:07his girth
10:08was
10:08it was astounding
10:10to have to
10:11visualize
10:12a human being
10:13that big
10:14but fortunately
10:16you know
10:18he didn't have
10:19the
10:19the ability
10:21or the
10:22mental capacity
10:24to deal
10:24with
10:25you know
10:26with the offense
10:27and
10:27and the powers
10:29of the darkness
10:29he succumbed
10:31finally
10:32and
10:32but
10:33he was one
10:34of the
10:35largest
10:35combatants
10:37that I've ever
10:37had to deal with
10:38he was a very
10:39powerful man
10:40but
10:40you know
10:42being big
10:43and powerful
10:43always isn't
10:44the best way
10:45to win a match
10:46in 1994
10:48in the summer
10:48of 1994
10:49much to the
10:50chagrin
10:50of the
10:51millions
10:52of creatures
10:53of the nights
10:54around the world
10:55you disappeared
10:57and
10:58I don't know
10:59if we ever
10:59got the
11:00the right
11:01answer
11:02I don't know
11:02if we ever
11:02got the
11:03right reasons
11:04but where
11:05were you
11:06in the summer
11:06of 1994
11:07and what was
11:08what changes
11:09or what was
11:09going on
11:10in your life
11:10at that point
11:11well as
11:12everyone knows
11:12I have the
11:14ability
11:14to absorb
11:15just
11:18huge amounts
11:19of punishment
11:20and
11:21although
11:21I have
11:23adapted the
11:24ability
11:24to block
11:24pain
11:25this is
11:26this is
11:27flesh and bone
11:28and
11:29flesh and bone
11:30it needs
11:31it gets to a point
11:32where
11:33after the giant
11:34Gonzaleses
11:35after the Kamalas
11:36after the Yokozumas
11:37there becomes a time
11:39where not only
11:41did I need
11:41to
11:42heal physically
11:43but mentally
11:44as well
11:45you know
11:47if I don't have
11:48the proper edge
11:49and if I don't have
11:50the proper mindset
11:51then it's time
11:52to step away
11:53observe what
11:54you're doing
11:54make sure
11:55that my soul
11:57and my spirit
11:57and everything
11:58is lined up
11:59because those are
12:00two very important
12:01things to me
12:01that what drives
12:03the Undertaker
12:03is his soul
12:04and his spirit
12:04it's not my size
12:06and it's not my
12:07athletic ability
12:07those aren't the
12:09things that got me
12:09to the point
12:10where I am
12:10and when I felt
12:12that I wasn't
12:14completely in tune
12:14with those things
12:15it was time for me
12:16to step back
12:17and make sure
12:18that I was doing
12:20everything I could
12:20to present
12:22to the creatures
12:23of the night
12:24what it is
12:25that I like
12:25to give them
12:26and needed a break
12:27you needed to
12:28recharge the batteries
12:29and reflect
12:29and I guess
12:30just get refocused
12:31on what the task
12:32at hand
12:32that would probably
12:33be a very good
12:34summation of what
12:35happened
12:35I had to be focused
12:37and I had to have
12:37my edge
12:38Ted DiBiase
12:39certainly
12:40purported
12:42that he had the edge
12:43DiBiase told us
12:44all the latter part
12:45of that summer
12:46that he had
12:47bought the
12:48Undertaker out
12:49and certainly
12:50prepared for a match
12:52at SummerSlam
12:52with an individual
12:53that tried
12:54to make us believe
12:55he was the original
12:56the original item
12:57he was an imposter
13:00as has been
13:01affectionately known
13:02as the under faker
13:03whatever the case may be
13:04how was that experience
13:05you know
13:06stepping in the ring
13:07with somebody
13:08that was almost
13:08your mirror image
13:09he was very close
13:12and you know
13:13it was
13:14it troubled me
13:16to know
13:17that here was
13:18Ted DiBiase
13:20making these accusations
13:21that I was
13:23I was selling out
13:26for no better term
13:27for the money
13:28you know
13:29I never doubted
13:31that the creatures
13:31of the night
13:32would even
13:33you know
13:34halfway buy into this
13:35but the individual
13:37that he chose
13:38he was
13:39he very much
13:42looked like me
13:44evidently he had studied
13:47my mannerisms
13:47and his my moves
13:48and he was
13:50a mirror image
13:51of the undertaker
13:53and you know
13:55he didn't have to deal
13:56with the persecution
13:57that I did
13:58and you know
14:00and to gain
14:02the respect
14:02of the fans
14:03the way the undertaker
14:04had to
14:04you know
14:06he never took a step
14:07back from anyone
14:07until I looked him
14:08in the eyes
14:08and that's when
14:09I seen fear
14:10and when I see fear
14:12you can liken that
14:13to a shark
14:14smelling blood
14:15because the end
14:16is at hand
14:17and down
14:19across the back
14:20how did he rise
14:25from that
14:26here comes
14:28another one
14:29no
14:34no
14:35oh my goodness
14:41and now
15:04yes
15:06up next
15:15the man from the dark side
15:16gives us a unique insight
15:18into the power
15:19of the urn
15:20and that urn
15:21contained
15:23the souls
15:24of these warriors
15:25and these gladiators
15:26and these soldiers
15:26that fought
15:27for what they thought
15:28was right
15:29for causes
15:31and beliefs
15:31and that urn
15:33was always
15:34a constant reminder
15:35of what I was there
15:36to do
15:37what is it about you
15:52that seems to
15:54drive people
15:55to team up
15:56against you
15:57because it seems like
15:58that has been
15:59the case more often
16:00than not
16:01here in the WWF
16:02that you are always
16:04seemingly the underdog
16:05against the numbers
16:06well it's
16:08my
16:09my initial years
16:11here in the World Wrestling Federation
16:12it wasn't like that
16:13everything was
16:14it was
16:15it was one-on-one
16:17and
16:18not that to be
16:20boastful
16:21or
16:21or
16:22to say that I am
16:23a better wrestler
16:24than anyone else
16:25but I just refused
16:26to lose
16:27I may lose a battle
16:29but the war
16:30I have the perseverance
16:32and I'm going to do
16:34what it takes
16:34to win
16:35so
16:35people realizing
16:37that
16:38you know
16:39it's only
16:41you know
16:41I mean it's only
16:42common sense
16:43that
16:43four are better
16:45than one
16:46you know
16:46five are better
16:47than one
16:47and
16:48so
16:49they
16:49they just
16:50seize the opportunity
16:51to get the numbers
16:53on the undertaker
16:54and
16:55you know
16:56they'll sacrifice
16:57and it seems like
16:58it would always be the case
16:59that they would sacrifice
17:00two or three
17:00and to a point where
17:02you know
17:03the fourth or the fifth guy
17:04may be able to get me down
17:05one of DiBiase's
17:07targets
17:10seemed to be
17:11your urn
17:11and Kama
17:12at one point
17:14took possession
17:15of your urn
17:16they allegedly
17:17melted it down
17:19he made a necklace
17:19out of it
17:20all that's been
17:21pretty well documented
17:22but I guess
17:22I'm sure most fans
17:24are probably interested
17:25in knowing is
17:25what did
17:27or does
17:28the urn
17:28or the symbolism
17:29of the urn
17:30mean to the undertaker
17:31what is it that
17:32is important to you
17:34the urn
17:35has always been
17:37as a symbol
17:39a constant reminder
17:40you know
17:42the undertaker
17:43is powered
17:44by the spirit
17:46of gladiators past
17:48that is what
17:48the undertaker is
17:49I am nothing more
17:50than a soldier
17:51I was put on this earth
17:53for this body
17:54was to harbor
17:55the soul
17:55of soldiers past
17:57and I believe
17:58that truly
17:59my whole existence
18:00surrounds
18:01is surrounded
18:02by that thought
18:03and that urn
18:04contained
18:06the souls
18:07of these warriors
18:08and these gladiators
18:09and these soldiers
18:10that fought
18:10for what they thought
18:11was right
18:12for causes
18:14and beliefs
18:15and that urn
18:16was always
18:17a constant reminder
18:18of what I was there
18:20to do
18:20I know that this is
18:22this sport
18:23is professional wrestling
18:25and this is my vehicle
18:26to project my views
18:29on things
18:29this is what I use
18:31to project the views
18:31of the undertaker
18:32and that urn
18:34was always
18:35it was a distraction
18:37I think
18:38to quite a few
18:39of my opponents
18:39because they weren't sure
18:40what that urn
18:41meant to me
18:42so there again
18:44that's another
18:45psychological advantage
18:47I had
18:47but it was always
18:48a constant reminder
18:49when Paul Bearer
18:51and I were
18:52you know
18:53when we were a unit
18:54when he held that urn up
18:56you know
18:56I did draw power
18:57and the power
18:59that I drew
19:00was a reminder
19:01that what I was doing
19:02and why I was there
19:03and it was
19:05it was
19:06it was very successful
19:07and you know
19:09the
19:10when the urn
19:11was stolen
19:12and they melted
19:12the urn down
19:13it was
19:15although it was not
19:17in the shape of an urn
19:18I knew it
19:19it still was
19:19and you can change
19:21the form of an urn
19:22and you can change
19:23the form of what it was
19:24but all they did
19:25was make me angry
19:26and when you make me angry
19:28well then you suffer
19:29the consequences
19:30how can he hold him up there
19:39where did he get the power
19:41no
19:42no
19:43another challenge
19:46that was very comparable
19:48in size
19:48in Diesel
19:50he likes to be called
19:51Kevin Nash these days
19:52he was a near 7 footer
19:55as are you
19:56he was just over 300 pounds
19:59as are you
20:00he was hungry
20:01to attain
20:02your position
20:04that you had fought for
20:06and suffered for
20:06and paid the price for
20:07in the WWF
20:08how was that rivalry
20:10from a personal standpoint
20:12how was
20:12described to the fans
20:13probably
20:14I'm sure for the first time
20:15the rivalry
20:17that you had
20:17with Kevin Nash
20:18well it's
20:20it's one of those instances
20:21where
20:21you have
20:23two guys
20:25and to
20:26coin a phrase
20:27the one to be king of the hill
20:29we are
20:31we're classified as
20:32the two giants
20:34of the federation
20:34look out
20:37the undertaker
20:38on his feet
20:39and now
20:39now
20:40Diesel beginning to back off
20:42no but
20:42not for long
20:43it was only a ploy
20:44these two monsters
20:46slugging it up
20:47whoa
20:47whoa
20:48Taker's throwing
20:49left and right
20:50Diesel now set up
20:52no
20:52reversal
20:53coming up
20:53a clothesline in
20:55yeah
20:56the undertaker
21:02just launched
21:03himself there
21:04he certainly did
21:05can the undertaker
21:05capitalize now
21:07on his aggressiveness
21:08can the undertaker
21:09capitalize on the momentum
21:11wait a minute
21:14look at this
21:15yeah
21:16no
21:17there wasn't enough room
21:22here for both of us
21:24he was
21:25you know
21:27as popular as he was
21:30and he was quite popular
21:31he had a tremendous reign
21:33as world champion here
21:34but
21:35he
21:35he had to
21:38he had to know
21:38you know
21:40I
21:40I have my causes
21:42and I've always have people
21:44that are
21:44that are trying to knock me off
21:46of my position
21:47and I think
21:48he had to know
21:50personally
21:51if he measured up
21:53against the undertaker
21:54and
21:55you know
21:56he
21:56pretty much
21:57sold himself out to
21:58you know
21:59the millions of fans
22:00that he had
22:00yet again
22:14he wanted to be called
22:15the king of the mountain
22:17the king of the hill
22:18he wanted to be the man
22:19he wanted to be the man
22:20and
22:21you know
22:22as fine an athlete
22:23that he is
22:24and was at the time
22:25you know
22:26there was no way
22:27that I would let
22:29let
22:30Kevin Nash
22:31Diesel
22:31whatever you want to call him
22:33you know
22:33knock me off
22:34I mean
22:35that was a
22:36you know
22:38that was a
22:39that was a personal issue to me
22:40that there was this guy
22:42that
22:42that
22:42thought that he
22:44you know
22:45was going to knock the undertaker
22:46off of a pedestal
22:47that I've worked hard
22:48and fought a lot of men
22:49to get to
22:50I
22:51I would think that
22:52your preparation
22:53not just
22:55not
22:55not really your mental
22:56or your physical preparation
22:57I should say
22:58but your mental preparation
22:59for Wrestlemania 12
23:01in Anaheim
23:02where you faced
23:04Diesel
23:05also known as
23:06Kevin Nash
23:07must have been
23:08special for you
23:10because
23:11everything you've described
23:12was on the line
23:13it was almost like
23:14it was a one match series
23:15to see who the man
23:17was going to be
23:17right
23:18it was
23:19it was a one time
23:20you know
23:21it was a winner take all
23:22it was a defining moment
23:24and
23:26and in probably
23:27both of our careers
23:28because like I said
23:30at the time
23:31he
23:31he had quite a bit
23:32of momentum
23:33you know
23:34people weren't lining up
23:36to wrestle him
23:36right
23:37and
23:38you know
23:39I knew
23:41that
23:42you know
23:44you know
23:45that it was going to be
23:46a physical
23:46very physically demanding match
23:49but I knew
23:50the first time
23:51that he knocked me down
23:52which when he
23:53knocked someone down
23:54they didn't get up
23:55I mean
23:56that's how strong
23:57and powerful
23:57a man this was
23:58once he knocked me down
24:00and I got up
24:01and looked him
24:01in his eye again
24:02that he would be frazzled
24:04and
24:04and that's what happened
24:06and
24:07it was a war
24:08I
24:09I can
24:09remember
24:10very well
24:11that it was probably
24:12one of the most
24:13physical
24:13encounters
24:14that
24:15until the time
24:16that I had ever endured
24:17here was a man
24:18that was actually
24:19a little bigger
24:19than I was
24:20stronger
24:21he was able to move
24:22but
24:24you know
24:25what I believe
24:26that
24:26the defining part
24:28of that match
24:28was
24:28it was mind over matter
24:29as many times
24:31as he knocked me down
24:32I would get up
24:33and
24:35you know
24:35most people realize now
24:37that that's one of my
24:37biggest strategies
24:38I believe
24:40that I can take
24:41more punishment
24:42than what somebody
24:43can dish out
24:43and when you've
24:45beat on me
24:46and you've pounded
24:47on me
24:47to you can't
24:48lift your arms
24:49anymore
24:49well then there's
24:51nothing left
24:51but to
24:52how should we say
24:53pay the piper
24:54and that's what
24:55he had to end up doing
24:56how do you describe
24:58him now
24:58I mean do you
24:58describe him
24:59with
25:00that you
25:01still respect him
25:02do you have
25:03do you like the guy
25:04do you think
25:05he made the right
25:05decision
25:06or would you like
25:07for him to stay
25:08in the WWF
25:08so that
25:09because I got to
25:10think that this
25:10could have been a rivalry
25:11like Muhammad Ali
25:13and Joe Frazier
25:13one of those classics
25:15because of your styles
25:16and the size
25:18and the whole deal
25:18I was thinking
25:20boy this could really
25:20be something
25:21you know
25:22so maybe selfishly
25:23as a fan
25:23I wanted to see
25:24the match more
25:25than once
25:25it would be
25:26I believe there
25:27would have been
25:27epic battles
25:28because I
25:30I do know
25:32of Kevin Nash
25:33is that he does
25:34have quite a bit
25:35of pride
25:35and he would have
25:37come back
25:37and he would have
25:39tried it again
25:39and I'm sure
25:41that the battles
25:42of Diesel
25:43and the Undertaker
25:44would have went
25:44down in history
25:45as some of the
25:46most brutal wars
25:49of all time
25:49personally
25:52I don't deal
25:54with people
25:54too much
25:55on a personal basis
25:56I don't harbor
25:58any grudges
25:59against him
26:00for his
26:00professional decisions
26:02each person
26:04knows
26:04what's right
26:05for him
26:06and you make
26:07those decisions
26:08accordingly
26:09you know
26:11for the World
26:12Wrestling Federation
26:13I think
26:13in the battles
26:15that the Undertaker
26:15and Diesel
26:16would have had
26:17it would have been
26:18tremendous
26:19for the World
26:20Wrestling Federation
26:20fans
26:21but you know
26:22as one man
26:23moves on
26:24someone else
26:25moves in
26:26and I'm sure
26:27that you know
26:28there will be
26:29someone else
26:29down the road
26:30that will pose
26:31the same challenge
26:32that Diesel
26:33did for the Undertaker
26:34Would you ever
26:34entertain a thought
26:35of going
26:35to Atlanta
26:37to renew
26:37the challenge
26:38I don't
26:40foresee
26:41that happening
26:43the World
26:44Wrestling Federation
26:45is the
26:45is the epitome
26:47of the wrestling
26:49business
26:49and
26:50I'm
26:52I'm very
26:53comfortable here
26:53I
26:54you know
26:56I've proven
26:57myself here
26:58I've gone
26:58through all
26:59my wars
26:59here
27:00you know
27:02I can
27:03I leave
27:03an open
27:04challenge
27:04to anybody
27:05anywhere else
27:05that wants
27:05to come
27:06here
27:06and I
27:07I don't
27:08back down
27:09from anybody
27:10and if
27:10somebody
27:10thinks that
27:11they need
27:11to prove
27:12themselves
27:13against what
27:14I feel
27:14is the marker
27:15in professional
27:15wrestling right
27:16now
27:16well the
27:17door is open
27:18whether it's
27:18one time
27:19or if you
27:20want to
27:20sign a contract
27:21it doesn't
27:22it doesn't
27:22matter to me
27:23but
27:24you know
27:25the Undertaker
27:26and his creatures
27:26of the night
27:27are home
27:28the
27:30after
27:32Wrestlemania 12
27:33and
27:34we
27:34we moved
27:35on
27:36through
27:361996
27:37the summer
27:39began
27:39and things
27:40really heated
27:40up
27:40between you
27:42and a
27:42rather unique
27:43individual
27:44unique gentleman
27:45by the name
27:46of mankind
27:47that I have
27:48grown a little
27:49closer to
27:50than I ever
27:51dreamed I would
27:52obviously not as
27:52close as you
27:53have
27:53the guy
27:54why have
27:55I've seen
27:57several matches
27:58with you two guys
27:59every one of them
28:00has been a war
28:01every one is brutal
28:02every one is physical
28:03every one looks as if
28:04that guy may not get up
28:06why
28:07is it just a chemistry
28:08is
28:09is it just a rivalry
28:11what brings out the
28:12what does mankind
28:14bring out of you
28:15mankind
28:16brought out the best
28:17in the Undertaker
28:18and
28:19this is a
28:21he's
28:23he's demented
28:24and
28:24I don't know
28:26what
28:26where his
28:27where his power
28:28or where
28:28what his mindset
28:29is
28:30but never
28:31have I been
28:31in the ring
28:32with any individual
28:33that tested me
28:34the way
28:35that mankind did
28:37now I've been
28:38in the ring
28:38with the Yokozunas
28:39and the
28:40and the Diesels
28:41I mean
28:41giants of them
28:42giant Gonzalez
28:43no one
28:45Hogan
28:45Hogan
28:46well I don't even
28:47put Hogan
28:48in that same category
28:49because Hogan
28:50his
28:51you know
28:52his arsenal
28:53wasn't anywhere
28:54close to what
28:54Hogan wouldn't put
28:56on the line
28:57what
28:58mankind would
28:59mankind would
29:01risk
29:01personal injury
29:02to cause
29:03damage to me
29:04and there's not
29:05many individuals
29:06that will do that
29:07that he will pay
29:08the ultimate price
29:09you know
29:10if it means
29:11destroying himself
29:12destroy me
29:13I believe
29:15he would have done it
29:15and many times
29:16you've seen him try it
29:17absolutely
29:18he
29:18he left me
29:20I had to be sharp
29:23at all times
29:23no one
29:25as long as I
29:27you know
29:28I've
29:29I've lost
29:30you know
29:31I've lost matches
29:31everyone has
29:32but no one
29:34has ever caused me
29:35the trouble
29:36in a wrestling ring
29:37the way mankind is
29:39because
29:39he is one of those people
29:41such as myself
29:42that doesn't care
29:43about the pain
29:44you know
29:45he
29:46and if you can get past
29:47the pain barrier
29:48then you
29:50you know
29:51what is it
29:52that one person
29:53can do to another
29:54if you can't inflict pain
29:56it doesn't
29:58you know
29:59it doesn't stop him
30:00he thrives on it
30:01the more he
30:03the more he hurts
30:04the stronger he
30:04he became
30:05I
30:06like I said
30:07personally and mentally
30:09I don't understand him
30:10but as a
30:11as a competitor
30:12I tell you
30:14and
30:14not that I'm a
30:16person that
30:17that likes to go into battle
30:18with a partner
30:19but if it ever
30:21come down to it
30:21and I needed to pick somebody
30:23and not that I could trust him
30:25but
30:25if I had to go into battle
30:26with somebody
30:27it would be mankind
30:27because I know
30:29he would fight tooth and nail
30:30till the end
30:31you know
30:31that's a surprising statement
30:32because we all know
30:33those legendary battles
30:34you had with him
30:35we know that
30:35you were probably
30:37the first superstar
30:38to really suffer
30:39from the mandible claw
30:41and that holds
30:42a difference maker
30:43it's a lot like
30:43like the tombstone
30:44when you hit somebody
30:45with a tombstone pile driver
30:46they don't get up
30:47correct
30:48it's over
30:49and mankind's mandible claw
30:51certainly rivals that
30:53as far as effectiveness
30:54is concerned
30:54and what was
30:56what was that experience like
30:59because no one
31:01I guess since the early days
31:02of Sam Shepard
31:03had ever used that
31:04that hold
31:05it surprised us all
31:06when he used it
31:07I guess is my point
31:08never had
31:11you know
31:13you lose
31:13when
31:14the hold was applied
31:15and
31:17you know
31:17there were times where
31:18you know
31:19if you could get your hands up
31:21you know
31:22and hold
31:23maybe that he didn't sink that
31:24you know
31:25sink the claw in as deep as he could
31:26but if he got the cold
31:27all the way on you
31:28it was completely disabling
31:31and that's a very humbling experience
31:33to know that a man
31:34with two fingers
31:35you know
31:37can
31:37can disable
31:38you know
31:39a full grown man
31:41yeah
31:41you know
31:43I never
31:44you know
31:45Sam Shepard
31:45I never had the chance
31:47to
31:47to wrestle with him
31:48but
31:49I'd
31:50really
31:51be surprised
31:53if he had the same effectiveness
31:54as mankind did
31:56with that hold
31:56when we come back
31:58we'll find out
31:59what the reaper holds in store
32:01for the trusted friend
32:02who betrayed him
32:03before I leave
32:04the world wrestling federation
32:06I will destroy Paul Bearer
32:08for what he's done to me
32:09how did you feel
32:21the night
32:22that Paul Bearer
32:23turned his back on you
32:24because
32:24the reason I bring that up
32:25is mankind was there
32:26but it seemed like Paul Bearer
32:28was the catalyst
32:28in that whole thing
32:29that mankind was almost
32:30like along for the ride
32:31yeah
32:33that was a
32:33it was a master scheme
32:34by Paul Bearer
32:36the
32:37I think through the years
32:39and
32:39and
32:40and the beatings
32:41and the punishment
32:41that I've endured
32:42I believe Paul Bearer
32:44thought that
32:45you know
32:46I was at the end of my rope
32:47at the end of my line
32:48that I didn't
32:49have what I once did
32:51Paul Bearer's laughing
32:52Paul Bearer's laughing
32:54I think he got away
32:55from the message
32:56that I bring
32:57and Paul Bearer
32:58became more focused
32:59on Paul Bearer
33:00look at this
33:03I'll say it ain't so
33:04turn to the undertaker
33:06just set up
33:07it caught me totally off guard
33:09and it was
33:11it was something that
33:13you know
33:15emotionally
33:16and I'm not a very emotional person
33:19I mean
33:20it was a betrayal
33:22that
33:22that I could have never foreseen
33:24because Paul and I
33:26we go back
33:27further than
33:29than the seven years
33:30that I've been in the World Wrestling Federation
33:31and
33:33everyone is
33:34well aware of that now
33:35that
33:36that you know
33:37that we have
33:37of a long history
33:39and for him to
33:41you know
33:42turn his back on me
33:43and
33:43and it would have been
33:45one thing
33:45if he decided
33:46you know
33:47if he'd have come to me
33:48and said
33:49I think that I want to go
33:51another direction
33:52that I would have been able
33:54to deal with
33:54I wouldn't have liked it
33:55but I would have been able
33:57to deal with it
33:58but for me to battle a man
34:00for a half hour
34:01in a boiler room
34:02and be cut
34:03and hit with pipes
34:04and
34:05and
34:05go through
34:06you know
34:07a total war
34:08with a man possessed
34:10on destroying me
34:11and then get to a point
34:13where I've battled
34:15and I've fought
34:15and I had
34:17the individual beaten
34:18and to go through
34:20all of that
34:21and after everything
34:22that Paul Bear and I
34:23have been through
34:23for him to turn on me
34:25in that situation
34:27that was a
34:29that was
34:30that was hard for me to swallow
34:31Mankind
34:33and The Undertaker
34:36neither individual
34:37will give up
34:39and
34:40oh
34:41how could The Undertaker
34:45possibly
34:46understand
34:47what has happened here
34:48look
34:50go do it
34:51oh
34:52oh
34:53no
34:54what are you doing
34:56I can't believe
34:57what we're seeing
34:58Mankind
34:59must take possession
35:01of the earth
35:01and he is the winner
35:03wow
35:04the winner of this contest
35:08Mankind
35:10this is most disturbing
35:17as Paul Bear looks at disdain
35:19the prone body
35:21of The Undertaker
35:22Paul Bear is leaving behind
35:28over six years
35:29a legacy
35:30a relationship
35:32a bond that
35:34heretofore we thought
35:35was inseparable
35:36Paul Bear
35:37Paul Bear
35:39has to realize
35:41that it's only
35:42a matter of time
35:43you know
35:45if it's the last thing
35:46that I do
35:47in this existence
35:48that I'm
35:49carrying on right now
35:51I will destroy him
35:52were there good times
36:03with Paul Bear?
36:03you know obviously
36:05there must have been
36:06many good years
36:08or what
36:09what was the relationship
36:10what role did he play
36:12in your life
36:12when the relationship
36:13was at its best?
36:15well at our best
36:16I mean Paul
36:17you know
36:18I
36:19I'm very much
36:20a recluse
36:21of a person
36:21away from
36:23the arenas
36:24Paul was always
36:25you know
36:26he was always there
36:27for me to
36:28you know
36:28he made sure
36:30that I needed to be
36:31where I was
36:31you know
36:32where I needed to be at
36:33and you know
36:35Paul understood
36:36you know
36:37he understood
36:37without a T
36:38where I come from
36:40where my mindset was
36:42he knew that
36:43the agony
36:44that I carried
36:44inside of me
36:45the torment
36:46and he understood
36:48my undertaker
36:50is crafting
36:51a casket
36:52for you
36:53by golly
36:54soon
36:57Yokozuna
36:57you too
37:00will be
37:01gift wrapped
37:02he understood
37:05without a T
37:05where I come from
37:08where my
37:09mindset was
37:10he knew that
37:11the agony
37:11that I carried
37:12inside of me
37:12the torment
37:13and he understood
37:16and he was
37:18someone that
37:19you know
37:19that I could talk to
37:21and explain things to
37:22and you know
37:23as I ventured
37:25through my world
37:26of darkness
37:27I enlightened him
37:28to a degree
37:29it's a time
37:30to reflect
37:31amongst past
37:33mistakes
37:34fine print
37:36and contracts
37:38inept management
37:40but also
37:42a time
37:43to look
37:44towards the future
37:46unfortunately
37:47for Paul
37:47he
37:48you know
37:50I taught him
37:51everything
37:52that he knows
37:53about the darkness
37:54and unfortunately
37:56for him
37:58I didn't teach him
37:59everything
37:59that I know
38:00and
38:01you know
38:02his actions
38:02as of late
38:05have forced me
38:07to
38:07you know
38:08take things
38:09to a whole
38:09another degree
38:10of darkness
38:11hey
38:13hey
38:14hey
38:15dead man
38:16turn around
38:17when I talk
38:18to you
38:19you better
38:21listen to me
38:22you've done
38:24major
38:25casting
38:26dead man
38:27and next week
38:29you're gonna
38:30lie in it
38:31because I'm
38:32gonna tell
38:33the whole
38:33wide world
38:35your secret
38:36and that's
38:37gonna be it
38:38you wait
38:40and see
38:40the undertaker
38:44Paul
38:52Barry
38:52is gonna
38:52he's gonna
38:53have to pay
38:54he's gonna
38:54have to suffer
38:55what I've had
38:56to suffer
38:56the humiliation
38:57and the torment
38:59and when it's
39:00all said and done
39:01you know
39:02he will beg
39:03me for forgiveness
39:04but all this
39:05this business
39:06came out
39:06that Paul
39:06Barry
39:07revealed
39:07and all this
39:08the story
39:10this horrible
39:11tragic story
39:11that he's told
39:12come out
39:13did you think
39:14at some point
39:15hey look
39:15it's just not
39:16worth it
39:16it's just
39:17look I've
39:18I've been
39:18successful
39:19I've done
39:20well
39:20you know
39:22I'm the
39:22WWF champion
39:23maybe it's
39:24time to
39:24maybe it's
39:25time to
39:26retire to
39:26the dark
39:27side
39:27and get
39:28away from
39:28all this
39:29stuff
39:29well that
39:29would probably
39:30be the easy
39:30thing to do
39:31you know
39:34I hid
39:35I hid
39:35for many
39:36years
39:36I've always
39:37I've always
39:40been proud
39:40of myself
39:40that
39:41whether people
39:43liked me
39:43or they
39:43didn't like
39:44me
39:44or they
39:44agreed
39:44with my
39:45views
39:45or not
39:47that I
39:47stood up
39:47for what
39:48I believed
39:48in
39:48and for
39:50years
39:50you know
39:51I hid
39:51behind the
39:52death mask
39:52because of
39:53the torment
39:53and the
39:54grief that I
39:55held inside
39:56for what
39:56happened
39:57you know
39:58I live
39:58with that
39:58every day
39:59and I will
40:00live with it
40:00for the rest
40:02of my
40:02existence
40:02in this
40:03world
40:03but
40:07you know
40:09it's
40:10you know
40:13it's just
40:14it's really
40:14hard for me
40:15to say
40:15that I
40:16could
40:16that I
40:16could go
40:17away
40:17like I
40:18said
40:18that would
40:18be the
40:19easy
40:19thing
40:19to do
40:20that's
40:21not what
40:22I'm
40:22about
40:22I like
40:23to take
40:23adversity
40:24and
40:25and meet
40:25it head
40:26on
40:26and
40:27whether
40:27people
40:28whether
40:30opinion
40:31of me
40:31because
40:32of what
40:32happened
40:33is lowered
40:35well
40:35then so
40:36be it
40:36but
40:37I'm
40:37here
40:37for a
40:38reason
40:38and I
40:39will
40:39continue
40:40to do
40:40what
40:40I
40:41do
40:41and in
40:42the course
40:43of defending
40:43the World
40:44Wrestling Federation
40:45Championship
40:46against
40:46whoever
40:46now I
40:48have a
40:49mission
40:49before I
40:51leave the
40:51World Wrestling
40:51Federation
40:52I will
40:53destroy
40:53Paul Bearer
40:54for what
40:54he's done
40:55to me
40:55let's
40:57talk
40:57about
40:58let's
40:58get
40:58on
40:58to
40:58a
40:58more
40:59positive
40:59subject
40:59let's
41:00talk
41:00about
41:00the
41:00WWF
41:01title
41:01Wrestlemania
41:0313
41:04no
41:04no
41:05Paul Bearer
41:06the big
41:06dance
41:07the big
41:08match
41:08how much
41:09pressure
41:10did you put
41:10on yourself
41:10for that
41:11one
41:11it
41:11wasn't
41:12so
41:12much
41:12that
41:13that I
41:13put
41:13pressure
41:14on
41:14myself
41:14it
41:15was
41:15you
41:17know
41:17as you
41:19well
41:19aware
41:19that I
41:20don't
41:20get
41:20many
41:20or I
41:21didn't
41:22get
41:22many
41:22opportunities
41:23for
41:23that
41:23title
41:24and
41:26it
41:26seemed
41:27like
41:27every
41:27chance
41:29that I
41:30did
41:30get
41:30for
41:31a
41:31world
41:31title
41:31there
41:31was
41:31always
41:32the
41:32numbers
41:33issue
41:34that
41:34you
41:34brought
41:34up
41:35there
41:35has
41:35always
41:35been
41:35some
41:35kind
41:36of
41:36outside
41:37interference
41:37and even
41:38in
41:38Wrestlemania
41:3813
41:39I
41:41got news
42:03where he did
42:03his best
42:04against
42:04Steve
42:04Austin
42:05and he
42:05couldn't
42:05quite get
42:06done
42:06what's
42:08this
42:08John
42:09first of
42:10all
42:11you phony
42:12little
42:12faker
42:13why don't
42:13you take
42:14your little
42:14pussyfoot
42:15injury
42:15no
42:16no
42:17it's alright
42:17I'm not going
42:18anywhere
42:18go back and find
42:19your smile
42:20but whatever you do
42:21stay out of this
42:22match
42:23I'm so scared
42:25but as for you
42:26I just want you
42:28know
42:28when you slam that
42:30door on my head
42:31you slam the
42:32door on our
42:32friendship
42:33and from here on
42:34in
42:34it's a new
42:35set of rules
42:36between you
42:36and me
42:37you know
42:38Bret Hart
42:39decided to
42:40stick his nose
42:40in it
42:40and unfortunately
42:41it backfired
42:42on Sid
42:43this time
42:44I knew
42:45that I had
42:46what it takes
42:46to beat
42:47psycho Sid
42:48as good as he is
42:49I knew
42:49that I could
42:50beat him
42:50but I didn't
42:52put any
42:52extra
42:53pressure on
42:55myself
42:55because I knew
42:57it would only
42:57be a matter
42:58of time
42:58before the
42:59circumstances
43:00and the
43:00situation
43:01was right
43:01and I'd be
43:02left alone
43:03and
43:04you know
43:04not to be
43:05boastful
43:06or overconfident
43:07but
43:07when I'm left
43:09one on one
43:09I believe
43:10that there's
43:10no one
43:10that I can't
43:11take
43:12Undertaker buried
43:16the right
43:17to the solar
43:17plexus
43:18follows up
43:19the kick
43:19to the same
43:20area
43:20Sid going
43:21to the well
43:21one time
43:22two off
43:23on the
43:23underdog
43:23and a rake
43:24in a face
43:24no
43:25I understood
43:26now
43:27hey wait a minute
43:27Undertaker slammed
43:28down the canvas
43:29power bombing
43:30right now
43:30if you can
43:31a lot of
43:32power
43:32you're going
43:33to see
43:33now
43:33I understand
43:34Sid's desperation
43:35he's got to go
43:36to those ropes
43:37which is something
43:37he doesn't usually
43:38do
43:38but he's not
43:39accustomed to it
43:40and I say
43:41eventually it's
43:41going to work
43:42against him
43:42look at this
43:42there we go
43:43hello
43:44Sid
43:44on the
43:45bow
43:45Sid deviated
43:50from his ground
43:50attack
43:51went on top
43:52and he's going
43:53to pay for it
43:54here
43:54the Undertaker
43:55look at that
43:57that's enough
43:58to make you
43:58nuts
43:59right there
43:59Undertaker
44:01has control
44:03of this matchup
44:04at the moment
44:05and Sid
44:08oh no
44:09Sid
44:10oh
44:10and now
44:14the pendulum
44:15swings back
44:15the other way
44:16you can feel
44:17the momentum
44:17Undertaker goes out
44:18here we go
44:20yeah but he
44:20don't look like
44:21he's sure
44:21what he's going
44:22to do either
44:22the two men
44:23big men
44:24getting aerial
44:25I love it
44:26on the top
44:28and a close line
44:30touch slam
44:36psycho Sid
44:38the MVP
44:42near
44:42no
44:44no
44:45on cover
44:46on count
44:47and
44:48unbelievable
44:50Sid
44:51kicked out
44:52he got the right
44:52shoulder up
44:53if you can
44:54I can't believe
44:55that
44:55what a WWF
44:57title match
44:57Sid and the
44:59Undertaker
45:00both men
45:00back up
45:01on their feet
45:02reversal now
45:02Undertaker
45:03off the ropes
45:03from the other
45:04side
45:05Undertaker
45:05in there
45:06Sid avoided
45:08the contact
45:08there
45:09Sid saw it
45:10coming
45:10good move
45:11by Sid
45:11Undertaker
45:12went for the
45:12flying clothesline
45:13again
45:14Sid ducked
45:14out of the way
45:15and a
45:17seesaw
45:17matchup
45:18for the
45:18World Wrestling
45:19Federation
45:19Championship
45:20and here
45:20we go
45:21power bomb
45:23it's power bomb
45:25time
45:25Jesus
45:29come on
45:31doesn't he ever get
45:35tired of
45:35beat up
45:36wait a minute
45:38wait a minute
45:39wait a minute
45:39kill him
45:41kill him
45:42kill him
45:42kill him
45:43he did it
45:45after winning the WWF title
46:00after winning the WWF title
46:14in the
46:14Rosemont
46:15it was a
46:16you know
46:16sold out
46:18fans around the world
46:19watching
46:19when he finally got back
46:21to your hotel room
46:22whatever hour it was
46:23did you
46:24did you ever get a chance
46:25to sit down
46:26and kind of
46:26spread your legs out
46:27and think about
46:28what you'd accomplished
46:29it was
46:30it wasn't
46:33until many hours later
46:34that
46:34you know
46:35that I was
46:35in the privacy
46:38of my own room
46:39that I had realized
46:40actually what
46:41I had accomplished
46:42and you know
46:43it had been
46:44you know
46:45it had been
46:45five six long years
46:47and this coming back
46:49and
46:49I was very proud
46:51of the fact
46:51not for myself so much
46:53it's for all the
46:55the creatures of the night
46:56the fans of the World Wrestling Federation
46:58that stood behind me
46:59you know
46:59and after time
47:00and time again
47:01where
47:01you know
47:02I was right there
47:03on the threshold
47:03of becoming champion
47:04and for whatever reason
47:06I didn't
47:07they stayed behind me
47:08and the reaction
47:09that I got
47:10that night
47:11after I won the title
47:12you know
47:13it was
47:14you know
47:15it made me realize
47:16that the people
47:18understand
47:19where I
47:20where I've come from
47:21they've understood
47:22my pain
47:23and
47:23that they were
47:25excited
47:26you know
47:27I think not only
47:28for themselves
47:29but they were excited
47:30for me
47:31and
47:32you know
47:33it was
47:33it was a
47:35very
47:35pleasant moment
47:37for me
47:38realizing that
47:39I had been able
47:39to deliver
47:40to the people
47:41that have supported me
47:42for so long now
47:43what they've wanted
47:44and that's probably
47:46the most
47:46that's probably
47:48the most fulfilling
47:49part of being
47:49world champion
47:50right now
47:51certainly want to
47:51thank The Undertaker
47:52for taking time
47:52to be with us
47:53here on this
47:53very special broadcast
47:54here on Sky Sports
47:55and we wish you
47:56the very best of luck
47:57come September
47:58when we see you
47:58in the UK
47:59thank you Jim Ross
48:00thank you