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02:45Over the past week, German Chancellor Mertz announced that the Germans would be sending
02:54terrorist missiles in the next few weeks to Kiev.
03:00Some of our military guys have said that's military jargon for we sent them a few weeks ago.
03:06There are no geographic limits on the ability of the Ukrainians to use these missiles.
03:14Is this going to make Germany a co-bell in the minds of the Kremlin,
03:19or is it going to make NATO in the minds of the Kremlin a co-belligerent?
03:24Well, in the minds of the Kremlin, NATO is already called belligerent.
03:30And the most dangerous state here, from the Russian point of view, is obviously the United States, not Germany.
03:38So in a very important way, this doesn't change much.
03:42I find it hard to figure out exactly what the Germans are saying.
03:45They have basically walked back what Mertz said, and it's not clear to me that we've delivered,
03:54or the Germans have delivered, Taurus missiles to the Ukrainians,
03:58or that there's any reasonable chance they're going to be used soon.
04:02That may come down the road.
04:04Who knows?
04:05But I don't see any fundamental change at this point.
04:09Here's what he said.
04:11It's an AI translation into English, which purports to be his actual voice,
04:17or the AI construction of his voice.
04:19Number seven, Chris.
04:21There are no longer any range restrictions on weapons delivered to Ukraine,
04:26neither from the British, nor the French, nor from us, nor from the Americans.
04:30This means that Ukraine can now also defend itself, including, for example,
04:35by taking actions such as attacking military positions located within Russia,
04:39or by targeting other strategic sites as necessary.
04:43Until recently, it was not able to do that.
04:46Until recently, with very few exceptions, it also did not do that.
04:49Now it can.
04:51In jargon, we call this long-range fire,
04:54meaning equipping Ukraine with weapons that can attack military targets in the rear.
04:58And this is the decisive, this is the crucial qualitative difference in Ukraine's conduct of the war.
05:03Russia attacks civilian targets completely ruthlessly,
05:07bombing cities, kindergartens, hospitals, and nursing homes.
05:11Ukraine does not do that.
05:13And we place great importance on ensuring that it stays that way.
05:17But a country that can only confront an aggressor on its own territory
05:20is not defending itself adequately.
05:23So, and this defense of Ukraine is now also taking place
05:26against military infrastructure on Russian territory.
05:30Let's put aside the accuracy or inaccuracy of his depiction of the Russian military.
05:38Are you saying that his own defense minister has walked back that rather definitive and clear
05:43statement about what the Germans planned to send to Ukraine?
05:47I don't think it was rather clear or definitive.
05:51I mean, he said that Ukraine now has permission to use missiles to hit targets inside of Russia.
06:00But as he pointed out, if you listen carefully, the Ukrainians have already been doing that.
06:07This wouldn't be the first time that happened.
06:09Remember, they were allowed to hit targets inside of Russia with ATACMS.
06:13So, this is nothing new.
06:15And with regard to the Taurus missiles, he didn't say anything about the Taurus missiles.
06:20And then on top of that, his comments were clarified later by other individuals in the government.
06:27And it's quite clear the Germans are not making a radical change or offering a radical change in policy here.
06:37I think this is a lot to do about nothing.
06:41Fox News is just reporting that President Putin has amassed 50,000 troops on Ukraine's north front.
06:51The Guardian reported this two days ago when I asked Colonel McGregor about it.
06:55He said the Guardian's numbers are off.
06:57It's more like 100,000 troops.
06:59What does this tell you?
07:01Well, I don't know about those exact numbers in that particular location.
07:06I've been looking at the numbers overall.
07:09And my guess, based on a RUSI report from February, this is the Royal United Services Institute in Britain, which is a pro-Ukrainian outlet.
07:21They say that the Russians have about 580,000 combat troops in Ukraine.
07:29That's 580,000.
07:31Wow.
07:32They say that the Ukrainian military or the Ukrainian security forces are comprised of about 800,000 troops.
07:42However, they say less than 25% of those 800,000 troops are combat troops.
07:50So let's assume the number is 20%.
07:5320% of the 800,000 are combat troops.
07:56That's 160,000.
07:58So that means 160,000 combat troops in the Ukrainian military up against 580,000 combat troops in the Russian military.
08:08That's a 4 to 1 overall advantage.
08:12Let's say that I'm not being fair enough to the Ukrainians here.
08:16And let's just drop the ratio down to 3 to 1.
08:20A 3 to 1 overall ratio, Russian to Ukrainian forces, is a staggering disadvantage for the Ukrainians.
08:28Furthermore, if you read the RUSI story, it says that various points along the front lines, the Ukrainians are outnumbered 6 to 1 in some places, 2 to 1 in other places.
08:40And there are all sorts of other sources that say there are points along the line that the Ukrainians don't have enough manpower to defend.
08:49And that's what they're doing is defending those open spaces with drones.
08:53This is an army that's in terrible shape.
08:57Are they in imminent danger of collapse, the Ukrainian military?
09:00It's very hard to say, given the limited information that we have on the outside.
09:06But if they collapsed in two weeks, it would not be surprising, just given those numbers.
09:12And I could take this a step further and talk about what the Russians are doing with glide bombs, what they're doing with drones, and so forth and so on.
09:21And the situation in terms of the raw numbers looks even worse.
09:25What are glide bombs and what are they doing with them?
09:28Well, glide bombs are smart bombs.
09:30They're bombs that are launched from a distance from an aircraft.
09:33And basically what the Russians can do is put these glide bombs in the pickle barrel.
09:38And what the Russians can do with their drones is they can identify where all the structures are that the Ukrainians rely on on the front lines and behind the front lines.
09:49They can figure out where the troops are concentrated.
09:52And then they stand off and they launch these glide bombs, which have a huge yield, and they end up destroying structures and killing all sorts of people.
10:02Now, what the Ukrainians do in these cases is they try to move when they see the bombs beginning to hit.
10:09They try to move.
10:10But the problem with movement up on the front lines is that they're drones saturating the air.
10:15And if you start moving, the drones get you.
10:19So the Ukrainians have very little ability to move.
10:23They have very little mobility.
10:25And at the same time, the Russians have these powerful glide bombs and lots of them that they can pound the Ukrainian soldiers and military structures with.
10:34So the Ukrainians are in deep, deep trouble.
10:36Are you the only person on the faculty of the University of Chicago who uses a phrase like pickle barrel?
10:46I would assume that's the case.
10:48OK.
10:50All right.
10:51What is your take on the attempted assassination of President Putin by drone and President Trump's denial that he knew anything about it?
11:03A, is the denial credible?
11:06B, is it more likely than not that Western intel, CIA, MI6, Mossad, advised where Putin was going to be at any given moment?
11:17I find it hard to believe that the United States, and here we're talking about the CIA, would provide that kind of information.
11:23I think that the administration has to know that killing Putin could have potentially catastrophic consequences.
11:31I mean, this is just something you don't want to do.
11:35So I actually find it hard to believe that we were behind this.
11:41With regard to Trump's statement that he didn't know anything about this issue, at first, Blanche, I find it hard to believe.
11:51But then when you think about how dysfunctional the Trump administration is, it's really not that surprising.
11:58I mean, this does look like the gang that can't shoot straight.
12:01And given that basic fact, it is possible that he just didn't know about it.
12:06It's shocking, but nevertheless possible.
12:08Moving over to Israel, the Europeans, the French, the Germans, the British have all complained about the slaughter in Gaza.
12:25They don't call it a war crime.
12:26They don't call it genocide.
12:28They're mainly complaining about the absence of food deliveries.
12:33What are they going to do about it?
12:34Are they going to restrain Netanyahu in any way?
12:38Well, there's no question that they're putting a great deal of pressure on the Netanyahu government.
12:45And they're putting pressure on the United States to do something because they know the United States and Israel are joined at the hip in terms of executing this genocide.
12:56So the Europeans are putting pressure on us and on the Israelis.
12:59And I would imagine, in fact, I'd bet a lot of money that behind closed doors, the Europeans are putting a lot of pressure on us to bring this to an end.
13:08And just before we came on the air, I saw that the Israelis have accepted a 60-day ceasefire.
13:16And I think that is evidence that the Netanyahu government understands that we need a timeout here, or at least they need a timeout here because the pressure is beginning to build.
13:28The damage that Israel is doing to its reputation is huge.
13:35It's just hard to believe that more Jews around the world are not standing up and demanding that Israel put an end to this genocide.
13:45It's going to have devastating consequences for Israel, and it is certainly not going to have good consequences for Jews around the world.
13:53This is a disaster.
13:54So I think, given all those factors, it's not altogether surprising that it appears that we now have a ceasefire.
14:02But that's just a temporary halt, as best one can tell.
14:06I mean, the Israelis have broken every ceasefire that's been negotiated.
14:12The situation with respect to feeding people has been called controlled starvation by a retired IDF general.
14:26With that in mind, here's Prime Minister Netanyahu.
14:28Now, this is a week old, but it does show his ranting and raving with lies about October 7th.
14:38It does show his condemnation of France, Britain, Canada, quote, and others.
14:44And then it shows what he says free Palestine really means.
14:50Chris, cut number one.
14:51Free Palestine.
14:52This is exactly the same chant we heard on October 7th.
14:57On that day, thousands of terrorists stormed into Israel from Gaza.
15:02They beheaded men.
15:03They raped women.
15:05They burnt babies alive.
15:08Free Palestine is just today's version of Heil Hitler.
15:12They don't want a Palestinian state.
15:15They want to destroy the Jewish state.
15:17I could never understand how this simple truth evades the leaders of France, Britain, Canada, and others.
15:25They're now proposing to establish a Palestinian state and reward these murders with the ultimate prize.
15:33You won't be surprised to learn that Hamas thanked President Macron and Prime Minister Starmer and Carney
15:39for demanding that Israel end its war in Gaza immediately.
15:42Now, these leaders may think that they're advancing peace.
15:46They're not.
15:46So don't give us this talk.
15:48It'll be a peaceful Palestinian state.
15:51It won't be.
15:53Where's he going with that?
15:55Nobody believes, except the most ardent right-wing Zionists in his government,
16:00about raping women, beheading men, and burning babies.
16:04It's a mantra he's been repeating for a year and a half now.
16:09Of course.
16:10Just lies.
16:12I mean, there's an abundance of evidence that these crimes that he's accusing Hamas of committing,
16:19these particular crimes, were not committed by Hamas.
16:23It's part of the Israeli story that's designed to make what happened on October 7th look even worse.
16:33But the main point is here, why did you have this attack on October 7th?
16:38That's the question.
16:40And the Palestinians were in a concentration camp, and they were breaking out of the concentration camp.
16:45And by the way, according to international law, it was perfectly permissible for Hamas to attack Israel on October 7th, according to international law.
16:56Correct.
16:57It's discussed, but it is true.
16:59It was not permissible for them to kill civilians, and I am adamantly opposed to that.
17:05I want to make that clear.
17:06And there's no question that the Palestinians breaking out of Gaza did kill civilians, and I think that that's wrong.
17:13But they had a right, according to international law, to attack Israel.
17:18They were in a concentration camp.
17:20Gaza is occupied territory, and what Netanyahu wants to do is he wants to make it look like what happened on October 7th was the second coming of the Holocaust.
17:32And this is ludicrous, the idea that the Palestinians were the equivalent of the Nazis in World War II,
17:39and were going to do to the Israeli Jews what the Germans did to European Jewry between 1939 and 1945.
17:48It's just simply not a serious argument.
17:50But it's all designed to put the focus on October 7th, to tell lies about what Hamas actually did,
17:57and all for the purposes of demonizing Hamas and making the Israelis look like a good guy,
18:03which is hard to do when it's the Israelis who are committing genocide against the Palestinians.
18:09I want you to listen to the testimony of a surgeon from California who donated, volunteered his time in Gaza back here in New York testifying before the Security Council.
18:29So we're going to invite him onto the program.
18:32I was so deeply moved when I saw this clip that Chris found, which we'll show to you now.
18:38Chris, number 17.
18:40My name is Dr. Faroz Sidwell.
18:43I am an American trauma and critical care surgeon based in Stockton, California.
18:47I come before you today to speak about the Gaza Strip, where I have volunteered twice since October 7th.
18:54The Constitution of the World Health Organization states that the health of all peoples is fundamental to the attainment of peace and security
19:02and is dependent on the fullest cooperation of individuals and states.
19:07I have taken this to heart, and it is the reason I volunteer in conflict zones from Haiti to Ukraine to Gaza.
19:13I did not see or treat a single combatant during my five weeks in Gaza.
19:19My patients were six-year-olds with shrapnels in their heart and bullets in their brains,
19:24and pregnant women whose pelvises had been obliterated and their fetuses cut in two while still in the womb.
19:30The medical system has not failed.
19:32It has been systematically dismantled through a sustained military campaign that has willfully violated international humanitarian law.
19:40Civilians are now dying not just from the constant airstrikes, but from acute malnutrition, sepsis, exposure, and despair.
19:48This is a man-made catastrophe.
19:50It is entirely preventable.
19:53Participating in it or not, allowing it to happen, is a choice.
19:57This is a deliberate denial of conditions necessary for life, food, shelter, water, and medicine.
20:04Preventing genocide means refusing to normalize these atrocities.
20:07It means refusing to dehumanize the Palestinians, to refuse to see them as calories counted or numbers of trucks moved.
20:15We see now that this way of thinking has brought about a human dignity crisis with an entire people on the edge of survival.
20:23The only thing I would add is, and was paid for by the American taxpayer.
20:29It was supported by the United States, starting with the Biden administration and now the Trump administration.
20:37We are complicit in a genocide.
20:40And what that doctor said is merely the tip of the iceberg, as anybody who's been following this conflict knows.
20:47This is just absolutely horrific.
20:49It's just hard to believe.
20:51It's hard to believe that we haven't stopped it.
20:54It's even harder to believe that we're involved in executing it.
20:58Again, the Israelis could not execute it without us supporting them.
21:02Is Trump free to stop it, or would the political and economic consequences be too odious for him to tolerate?
21:09Well, if he decided he was going to stop it, he would really have to take off the gloves, and he'd have to go to war against the lobby.
21:19And he'd have to be very strategic in terms of winning allies inside the American Jewish community, and even outside the American Jewish community.
21:28Because he'd get a lot of pressure, to put it mildly, from the lobby and from Congress.
21:35But there's no question that he could stop it if he wanted to.
21:38The question is, is he in a position where he thinks he could take on the lobby?
21:44And so far, it looks like that's not the case.
21:48His negotiators are meeting in Rome with the negotiators from Iran.
21:58According to him, they're getting closer and closer.
22:01And according to him, he had to call Netanyahu and tell him, don't disturb this negotiations.
22:07It's almost unbelievable that this had to happen.
22:10But we'll play this cut for you as well.
22:13Chris, number 14.
22:15Back on Iran.
22:17Did you warn Prime Minister Netanyahu against taking some sort of actions that could disrupt the talks there?
22:23In a phone call last week?
22:25Well, I'd like to be honest.
22:28Yes, I did.
22:29Next question, please.
22:31I did, yeah.
22:35It's not a warning.
22:36I said, I don't think it's appropriate.
22:38What exactly did you tell him?
22:40I just said, I don't think it's appropriate.
22:42We're having very good discussions with him.
22:44And I said, I don't think it's appropriate right now.
22:47Because if we can settle it with a very strong document, very strong, with inspections and no trust.
22:54I don't trust anybody.
22:56I don't trust anybody.
22:58So no trust.
22:59I want it very strong where we can go in with inspectors.
23:02We can take whatever we want.
23:04We can blow up whatever we want, but nobody getting killed.
23:06We can blow up a lab, but nobody's going to be in the lab, as opposed to everybody being in the lab and blowing it up, right?
23:13Two ways of doing it.
23:15Yeah, I told him this would be inappropriate to do right now because we're very close to a solution.
23:20Now, that could change at any moment.
23:23It could change with a phone call.
23:24But right now, I think they want to make a deal.
23:27And if we can make a deal, save a lot of lives.
23:30I get analyzed this.
23:32This is very telling that the president of the United States, either because of intel he received or his own impressions of Netanyahu,
23:41had to call him up and say, don't you dare attack the Iranians while we're negotiating with them.
23:45Well, what's going on here is that Trump is moving towards bringing back the JCPOA, the agreement that the Obama administration came up with in 2015
24:02to basically make it impossible for Iran to acquire nuclear weapons.
24:10It put significant limits on their enrichment capability.
24:13And Trump, of course, walked away from that agreement in 2018, the summer of 2018.
24:20And he's now heading back toward that agreement or some variant of that agreement.
24:27And the Israelis are adamantly opposed to doing that, as is the lobby in the United States.
24:33Therefore, unsurprisingly, as are most of the members of Congress.
24:39And what the Israelis want to do is they want to derail the negotiations so we don't get JCPOA, too.
24:49And the way they see us losing in terms of the negotiations is by them attacking Iran,
24:57because that, in their view, will put an end to the negotiations.
25:02We'll have no more JCPOA, too.
25:04And, of course, the Israelis also think if they attack Iran, we will have no choice but to follow in behind them,
25:11because the Israelis understand they cannot do the job alone.
25:15The only thing they would get if they attacked Iran was, from their point of view,
25:19hopefully bringing the Americans into the fight, because the Americans have the military capability to possibly,
25:27and I'm underlining the word possibly, take out Iran's enrichment capability.
25:32The Israelis don't have that capability.
25:34But they just want to start a war to derail the negotiations, because they don't want JCPOA, too.
25:42Here's another clip from this, Dr. Asidwa, just as articulate, just as moving as the earlier one.
25:49Cut number 19.
25:50My Israeli and American friends express horror at what is being done in their names.
25:56Many of us cannot understand how our governments continue to arm this senseless destruction.
26:02But you in this chamber have the power to stop it.
26:05I am here because I have witnessed what is happening in Gaza with my own eyes,
26:09especially to children, and I cannot pretend not to have seen it.
26:13You, too, cannot claim ignorance.
26:14I urge the Council, and especially my own government, to act with urgency on these enforceable measures.
26:22One, demand an immediate and permanent ceasefire, including a halt to all arms transfers to all parties to the conflict,
26:30alongside targeted and lawful sanctions on Israel.
26:34Two, demand the reopening of all of Gaza's crossings and guarantee unrestricted medical evacuations,
26:41including to hospitals in the West Bank and East Jerusalem,
26:45where Palestinian patients can be treated by Palestinian doctors, with safe return to Gaza assured.
26:51Three, guarantee sustained humanitarian access throughout Gaza,
26:56allowing all essential supplies, shelter, food, water, fuel, and medical supplies, to reach all people in need.
27:04Four, strongly and explicitly reject the weaponization and politicization of aid embodied by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,
27:14whose executive director, a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps, publicly resigned on Sunday,
27:20citing the Foundation's lack of adherence to humanitarian principles.
27:24We must affirm support for existing U.N. mechanisms, back U.N.R.W.A.,
27:30and ensure NGOs with expertise in reaching and providing specialized care to those in need have unimpeded full access.
27:39Five, the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages.
27:45Six, the immediate and unconditional release of all health care workers,
27:49including Dr. Hussam Abu-Safia, now held in Israeli detention for more than 150 days.
27:56And seven, without delay, uphold the U.N. Charter and act now to prevent genocide.
28:02If this council remains silent and fails to act now,
28:06that record will stand as a testament to a global failure to provide urgent care
28:11and to the collapse of our collective conscience.
28:14Almost what you said earlier, Professor Meir Schammer, just in different words,
28:21a global failure to end and a collapse of the of our collective conscience.
28:30I mean, he paints a a picture which is horrific.
28:34I don't know if there was an American representative there in that room.
28:37I couldn't tell.
28:38We'll have to look at the picture to decide.
28:40The United States does not have an ambassador to the U.N.
28:43It was supposed to be Mike Waltz, the former National Security Advisor.
28:49I don't know if it's going to be him.
28:50There must be some under ambassador, some full-time employee of the U.S.
28:53that was sitting there listening to this.
28:55I don't know how he or she could have responded to it.
28:59What can they say?
29:00I mean, I don't know what to say at this point.
29:04I mean, I agree with everything that the doctor said.
29:07And I think that huge numbers of people around the planet agree with what the doctor said.
29:14Who can put pressure on Netanyahu besides Donald Trump to stop the slaughter and to allow the type of aid in and movement that the doctor just so articulately described?
29:29Well, there's no other actor in the international system that can do that.
29:32I mean, the United Nations can't do that.
29:34It doesn't have any troops of its own.
29:37There's no country in Europe that can do that.
29:40The Russians and the Chinese are not going to do it.
29:43I think there's no question that as public opinion around the world and as elite opinion around the world builds against Israel, that does put pressure on Israel to change its behavior for sure.
29:55And I think that that pressure is directed not only at Israel, but at the United States as well.
30:00As I said before, I bet a lot of money that European leaders are putting pressure on Trump to put an end to this.
30:07But it's the Americans who matter.
30:09The Americans are joined at the hip with Israel and the United States is by far the most powerful state in the world and clearly the most influential state in the Middle East.
30:21So it's up to us to shut it down, which is another way of saying it's up to Donald Trump.
30:26And there's no evidence so far that Trump is interested in shutting this one down.
30:33I mean, one can only hope that that changes.
30:36But as you said before, you know, there have been ceasefires.
30:40And what happens is the Israelis eventually break the ceasefire.
30:43So you can put pressure on the Israelis to move to a ceasefire.
30:48And the question is, what does the long term look like?
30:50That's the real question we should be asking ourselves.
30:53What do the Israelis have in mind over the long term for Gaza?
30:57And the answer is very simple.
30:59They plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
31:01And because they're having a devil of the time doing that, they're executing a genocide.
31:06They're murdering all these people, mainly for the purposes of driving them out of Gaza.
31:11And if they can't drive them out of Gaza, they'll kill them all.
31:15That's what's going on here.
31:16And they're doing it again with the help of the United States.
31:20On that, we will end, my dear professor.
31:23Thank you very much for your time.
31:25Thanks for accommodating my schedule, as always.
31:28We'll look forward to seeing you next week.
31:30Likewise, Judge.
31:32More on this with two fan favorites.
31:36At 4 o'clock this afternoon, we found him, Max Blumenthal.
31:41And at 5 o'clock this afternoon, Professor Jeffrey Sachs,
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