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01:30You have been with us now for like eight months.
01:34You were inside Shell for like 11 months in Tuguegaraw.
01:38Nine months in Tuguegaraw.
01:39Sorry, nine months in Tuguegaraw.
01:41Two months in QC.
01:42Okay, 11 months all in all.
01:44Tell me the story.
01:46Kwentuhan niyo ako ng mga bagay na pwede lamang ikwento?
01:51I was working with this company.
01:53It's a direct selling company.
01:55And yung role ko in the company is a brand ambassador, a product ambassador.
02:01Which is I simply talk about my experiences using yung products that they distribute.
02:07And then, ayun lang.
02:08Pag may mga sales meetings, may mga presentations.
02:11I come up on stage and I talk about experience namin sa bahay paggamit ng products.
02:16Okay, I get it now.
02:18So, may mga events, di ba?
02:19Right, right.
02:20Am I right?
02:21Tapos, nangungumumida ng mga tao who are potential clients.
02:24Right.
02:24Who are potential members.
02:26Ika nga, halimbawa, ng company na ito.
02:28So, some people would speak about the products, the business side of it, how you can make money.
02:35Right, right.
02:35And then, this is a company.
02:36And then, bilang brand ambassador, you would come in para magbigay lang yung testimonial to push for the product.
02:43Yun ang yung involvement.
02:45But, the company is a sales company.
02:48Meaning, selling lang of products.
02:52Okay.
02:52That's it.
02:52Now, what happened was, ang hindi na, nalaman nalang, kasi I went also to the hearings, nalaman namin na there were backdoor meetings.
03:04Which him and the other speakers didn't know about.
03:07All right.
03:08Yeah, habang we're doing this presentation, meron ibang meeting nangyayari in a private area.
03:13And which they did not even include him.
03:15So, itong mga backroom meetings na ito, ay ano ang pinag-uusapan?
03:20Yun na yun.
03:21Pinag-uusapan na, pinag-uusapan na parang hihiramin yung pera nila.
03:28Parang invest kayo.
03:29Oo, sila.
03:30Oo, mag-invest kayo.
03:32At ito ang inyong pinditain.
03:34And then, may monthly, may monthly interest.
03:37Yun yung, that happened without them, him, and the speakers knowing.
03:42Ang klaro dito is, let's not even talk about the other speakers.
03:46But, as far as you're concerned, wala kang alam.
03:50Yes.
03:51Kumusta yung buhay?
03:52Sa loob ng kulungan?
03:54It's hard, honestly.
03:55It's hard.
03:56It's hard.
03:56Maidip.
03:57Were you broken at a certain point?
04:00I mean, you know, emotionally, spiritually, binasag ka ba ng kulungan?
04:06I know, boy, no.
04:08Hindi.
04:08No.
04:09I was very grateful for the PMA ko ng father ko.
04:14So, parang nag-beast barracks ulit.
04:16Oh.
04:17Away from the family, you're in your own place with strangers.
04:21And then, we've always felt that there was, you know, it sounds cliche, pero yung, everything happens for a reason.
04:27There's a plan.
04:28Why are you there?
04:29There must be a plan.
04:31And, you know, luckily, we were able to still communicate.
04:34Oh.
04:35So, you know, my biggest worry, boy, was how this will affect them outside.
04:43At hindi namatay yung pag-asa.
04:45Araw-araw, you were hoping.
04:46Well, yung, what we always believed is that lalabas ako.
04:54Oh.
04:55Because sooner or later lalabas.
04:57But we were hoping sooner.
04:58Oh, soon.
04:59Tsaka, no, I always visited him sa Tugigaraw.
05:02Kasi alam ko na malungkot.
05:04And then, ano pa lang?
05:04More pa in QC?
05:06Metai.
05:07Oh, QC.
05:08Almost every other day she would come.
05:09Tapos sa Tugigaraw, every week lumilipad ako.
05:12That's why hindi ako tumanggap ng mga seryo last year.
05:15Kasi I didn't want na ma...
05:18Yung schedule.
05:18For you to miss.
05:19Yeah.
05:20Oh, ongoing to Tugigaraw.
05:22Kasi alam ko, malungkot.
05:23I mean, if I'm having a hard time, lalo na siya.
05:28Diba?
05:28So, and then people would ask me,
05:30bakit kailangan ka pumuntay magastos?
05:33Diba?
05:34Pagod.
05:35So, gusto ko eh.
05:36I want to be there with him.
05:39Boy, you know, when I first went to Tugigaraw,
05:43that was November.
05:46End of November.
05:47And then, we weren't expecting aabod pa ang Pasko.
05:51We were thinking maki-clear out by Pasko eh.
05:55Yung pala hindi.
05:56Mga technicalities, whatever.
05:58Umabot na January ka nakadalaw.
06:00Yes, yes.
06:01And I was telling her, don't come because it's hot.
06:04It's hot.
06:05Oo, di ba?
06:05I've been asked, no, paano, how was it?
06:09Diba?
06:09Yung ganyan-ganong kahirap.
06:11So, alam mo, looking back, I think it's the fact na alam namin na isinusen.
06:18Oo.
06:18Kasi, if, let's say, alam namin na may ginawa siya or may gano'n,
06:25that thing would bother you eh.
06:28Diba?
06:28It would bother your conscience.
06:30Pero, sabi ko, hindi eh.
06:32Parang nabanggan ang bus, nilagay ka sa isang lugar,
06:36you don't know what's happening, you don't know what's gonna happen.
06:39So, the best thing you can do is lessen your stress.
06:42And just look for it.
06:44What, why am I here?
06:45So, from then on, sabi ko, okay, ha, since you're here, ang dami mong fans.
06:53Ang dami mong fans diyan.
06:55Every time you see them, just know that you're making them happy just by seeing you.
07:00Ang kakawayan mo.
07:02Tapos, we did things for some of the detainees para lang mapasaya.
07:08Fast forward to today, lessons, mga bagay na natutunan.
07:14And what have you become, not just Richard, because you were so involved in this experience.
07:20What have you guys become dahil sa karanasan ito?
07:23You're stronger.
07:25No, I see it.
07:26It's true, Marina.
07:27Oh, I see it.
07:29I think more patient.
07:31Oh.
07:32More patient with other people.
07:35I saw so many people who are in jail for simple things.
07:42But there are also so many who are in there because of some very, you know, frivolous charges made by somebody else.
07:52And it's so easy to get arrested.
07:56Yeah.
07:57Stronger, more patient.
07:58Are you better people because of this experience?
08:01I like to think so.
08:03Yeah.
08:04I like to think so.
08:04Why are you thinking, Marina?
08:06No, I just thought you were better.
08:08Well, yeah.
08:09Not that you were not, but you know.
08:11Before that, we're pretty solid.
08:15And then, I always said nga na, the things that I did for him, for the family, is what I would really do for people I love.
08:25Right.
08:26So, mabigat lang, di ba?
08:29You know, we've gone through in our separate lives.
08:31We've gone through so much already.
08:33Naakala mo, ay, okay na to, papahinga na ako.
08:38Nung pala, may mangyayari pa, di ba?
08:39Which is much heavier.
08:41So, sabi ko nga, you know, it's challenge after challenge.
08:45But, it's easier to accept the challenge rather than keep questioning, you keep avoiding, you keep, you know.
08:52So, pero, we just...
08:53Wala na yung mga sana ganito, dapat ganito.
08:56Sabi ko nga, puti na lang kaming dalawa.
08:59Oh.
09:00Because, I don't know if it was someone with less patience, less strength.
09:05And angrier.
09:06Less weight and angrier, iba eh.
09:08And body language, you still have devoted as ever to Richard, you know.
09:15It, I think, strengthened your relationship?
09:17Yes.
09:17Yes.
09:18Di ba?
09:19It's strengthened and already strong.
09:21And already...
09:22I know you're very conscious about it.
09:24Oh, oh.
09:25I just noticed.
09:26Totoo yun.
09:27Kasi okay na kami eh.
09:29We don't have to be better.
09:30Because we were never bad.
09:32Right.
09:33Di ba?
09:34But I really pray for you.
09:35And I wish you the best.
09:37At hindi kayo bumitaw.
09:38Let's do it fast off.
09:41Pressure.
09:42Richard, action, drama.
09:44Action.
09:45Guapo pa rin, hot pa rin.
09:47Guapo.
09:48Strictong daddy, consentidor na daddy.
09:51Strictong daddy.
09:51Malukit na kontrabida, masamang kaaway.
09:54Masamang kaaway.
09:55Under kay Marina, clingy kay Marina.
09:58Under.
10:00Tuwing kailan pinaka-
10:02Tuwing kailan pinaka-sexy si Marina?
10:03Pagtulog ka.
10:04Ay, pagbising ko sa umago, naka nandiyan siya eh.
10:07Tuwing kailan, Marina pinaka-hot si Richard?
10:10Paglabas sa banyo.
10:12Marina, beauty queen, supermodel.
10:16Oh God, supermodel.
10:17Winner, survivor.
10:19Survivor.
10:19Flats, heels.
10:21Flats.
10:22Taping, live selling.
10:23Live selling.
10:25Magaling romampa, magaling magbenta.
10:27Magaling romampa.
10:29Para sa inyong dalawa, siya o ako.
10:31Unang nangangalabit.
10:34Ako!
10:37Kurot, unang kurot.
10:39Oo.
10:40Siya o ako.
10:40Unang napapagod.
10:43Hmm.
10:44Ako.
10:47Okay.
10:48Siya o ako.
10:50Mas malikot, matulog.
10:52Ako yan.
10:55Hindi, gano'y parang ba kay matulog.
10:56Gano'y gano'y siya o ako.
10:58Mas matagal sa banyo.
11:00Siya.
11:00Siya o ako.
11:01Mas kuripot.
11:03Siya.
11:04Mas iyapin.
11:06Siya.
11:08Mas siloso.
11:10Ay, wala.
11:11Sorry, wala.
11:11Mas spoiler.
11:14Ako!
11:15Lights on or lights off?
11:18Uh, nightlight?
11:21Happiness or chocolates?
11:23Happiness!
11:23Best time for happiness?
11:25Always.
11:25Always.
11:26Say this to each other.
11:28Complete the word.
11:29Pangako.
11:30Start the line with
11:33Pangako.
11:33Pangako, Marina.
11:38Pangako ko hindi kita ii...
11:40Pangako...
11:42Kakanta ko rin siya.
11:45Iiwan.
11:46Anak naman niya yun.
11:48Yang din sana kakantain ko.
11:50Try ito.
11:50Sige nga, pero kantahin ko.
11:52Pangako hindi kita iiwan.
11:55Ang nakatatuwa po,
12:00night-eye kapuso.
12:02Was it the 90s when
12:04you were both very active
12:06sa modeling?
12:07Rampahan?
12:0880s ako.
12:0980s?
12:0980s ako.
12:10Marina, you were?
12:1190s.
12:12Nang-continue siya up to now eh.
12:14Oo, correct.
12:1490s.
12:16More or less, no, 90s.
12:18Alam niyo ba na,
12:19halimbawa,
12:2080s, 90s,
12:22iba ang rampahan.
12:23Yes.
12:24Iba ang groove.
12:25Iba ang lakad sa rampa.
12:27Gusto niyo ba malaman
12:28kung paano ang pagmamodelo
12:29ng mga panahon na yun
12:30at magpahanggang sa ngayon?
12:32Because you're still
12:33a model up to the entire day.
12:34Wala pagkapa?
12:35Yan,
12:36nangyayari po yan
12:37sa pagbabalik
12:38ng fast talk.
12:39Good boy.
12:39Aboa.
12:41Sa mga panahon na yun
12:42sa mga panahon na yun
12:44to Richard at Marina.
12:46Let's talk about modeling.
12:50Hindi,
12:50umbisa natin, Richard.
12:51Nung panahon mo,
12:53paano ba ang lakaran
12:54ng mga muli?
12:56Straight lang?
12:57No, no.
12:59Sige nga,
12:59sige nga, Richard.
13:00Sige yung mga kasabayan mo,
13:02Richard.
13:02Ah, okay.
13:03Nagkasabay ba kayo ni Eduard
13:04ni Doge?
13:07No, no, no, no, no, no.
13:08Earlier pa siya.
13:09Ah, na, nauna sila Doge sila.
13:11Pati ka si Roy Benson.
13:13Pati si Roy Benson.
13:14Because Ronnie Riquet,
13:16Joey Sarasola.
13:17Yeah, nahit sila.
13:18Okay, alright.
13:20But, but mine was on
13:21the tail end of that style,
13:23yung,
13:24which was just,
13:25you know,
13:25walk, walk with the clothes
13:27you're wearing.
13:27So, let's, let's go to the walk.
13:29So, paano?
13:29Paano kayo lumakad, Lord?
13:31Lakad action star, yata.
13:33Parang na-devolve na ako,
13:35lang na-action ko.
13:36Hindi.
13:37Ano lang?
13:39Oo.
13:39Just walk lang na.
13:42Tapos yung pause lang eh.
13:48Tapos yung,
13:49tapos yung exit,
13:50tapos yung last look,
13:51last look.
13:52Gusto ko yun.
13:55Gusto ko yung one last,
13:56yung pagdating dito,
13:58yung last look na na.
14:01Ang term ng mentor namin,
14:03si Oji Atos,
14:05huwag yung paano dumiretso ko sa banyo.
14:08Okay.
14:08Magpamadali kung bales.
14:09Yung pag-exit eh.
14:12Pero ngayon,
14:13yung shalika mo.
14:14Sabi ni Oji,
14:14huwag diretsso sa banyo.
14:15Sabi ni Oji,
14:15huwag diretsso sa banyo.
14:16May last,
14:18may last look and then,
14:19and then saka na lang
14:20puntang banyo.
14:21Yung ganda, no?
14:22Nandiyan pa rin,
14:23eh.
14:24Nandiyan pa rin yung angas.
14:25Oo.
14:26Marina?
14:27Oo.
14:27Tayo na,
14:28ikaw.
14:28Ay, naku.
14:29Oo.
14:29Nag-evolve ba ang lakad mo?
14:32Mula nung nag-uumpisa ka
14:33hanggang ngayon?
14:34Matigas ulo ko eh.
14:35Talaga?
14:36Hindi ko,
14:37I never change.
14:38You stop to that walk.
14:40Because,
14:41yung walk nung 80s, 90s,
14:44sabi ko,
14:45oy, sorry sa buko ano ha,
14:46ngayon.
14:47Pero nawala yung grace.
14:49Right.
14:49You know,
14:50Boy, tingnan mo yung kamay niya natin.
14:52Ay, no.
14:53Alam ko.
14:54Iba.
14:55And then,
14:56nung,
14:57nung,
14:58nung,
14:58nung,
14:58nung,
14:59nung turn of the century,
15:00nung millennium,
15:02there was a walk na parang,
15:04yung parang kabayo.
15:06Tapos,
15:07kailangan derecho lang.
15:09Ay,
15:09I tried doing it,
15:10but it wasn't really me.
15:12And,
15:12you know,
15:13sa show,
15:14kasi usually pag-finale ako,
15:16they're not expecting.
15:17This is the marina benipayo.
15:19Di ba?
15:19Di ba?
15:20They're expecting,
15:21sabi ko nga sa girls,
15:22sa models,
15:23when you're a finale model,
15:25you are putting together
15:27everything,
15:28what they watched.
15:29It's the aesthetic
15:30of what the design,
15:31the message.
15:33So,
15:33hindi ako pwedeng lalakad lang.
15:35Because you are telling
15:36the story
15:37of what just happened.
15:39Okay.
15:39So,
15:40how did it look?
15:42Well,
15:42usually,
15:43usually,
15:45nakaga,
15:46hindi,
15:46okay lang ha.
15:48Usually,
15:48nakaga,
15:49tas I started a pose,
15:51na,
15:51yun,
15:51medyo naging ano ba na yan,
15:53and then,
15:54pati ko.
15:54tas blackout.
16:06Ah!
16:10Pero ano,
16:11iba na kasi yung lakad nila ngayon.
16:14Did you,
16:14ano,
16:14do you coach?
16:16I used to,
16:17I used to,
16:18oo, oo, oo,
16:18pero ito yung mga,
16:20ito yung mga walk na,
16:22timeless, di ba?
16:23Yes.
16:23I mean,
16:23I love watching you.
16:25Ako din,
16:25just now.
16:26I mean,
16:27noong kapanahon mo,
16:27I would watch,
16:28because I worked for Tita Konchitsuniko,
16:30so I'm very familiar with,
16:32I know,
16:32just you're telling a story.
16:35Ayan.
16:35Now,
16:36just to end this conversation,
16:37before we do our TikTok,
16:39ah,
16:39ah,
16:39ah,
16:39if you were to say,
16:41salamat,
16:42at sorry,
16:44sa isa't isa,
16:45what,
16:46how would that sound?
16:47I would say sorry sa nangyayari.
16:49I mean,
16:50talagang we've discussed it na,
16:53that there was no one to blame among us,
16:56but still,
16:57I just,
16:57just feel sorry that,
16:59it happened,
17:01that we went through that,
17:02that the family went through that.
17:05And salamat for being there,
17:07as always,
17:07and more than ever.
17:09Right.
17:11Ikaw, Marina.
17:11Well,
17:13ah,
17:13sorry,
17:15sorry,
17:16I could,
17:16I wish I could have done more.
17:19Hindi.
17:20Um,
17:21pero salamat,
17:22kasi,
17:24ah,
17:24God,
17:25really,
17:26I think,
17:27God intended for us to meet talaga,
17:29after,
17:30um,
17:31isa nangyayari sa atin,
17:33as individuals,
17:35parang feeling ko talaga,
17:36ginantimpalaan tayo with each other,
17:39and,
17:39um,
17:40that's true.
17:41Saka bite-bite mo kasi,
17:42I don't think,
17:43um,
17:44I'll be able to,
17:45find,
17:46find any.
17:47That's right.
17:48Yeah.
17:49Actually,
17:49meron,
17:49meron nung naging bago pa lang kami,
17:51parang may,
17:52once,
17:52we would look at each other once in a while,
17:54and say,
17:55hayop ka.
17:57Andjan ka lang pala.
17:59Saka ano.
18:00Totoo,
18:00no?
18:01Hindi na wala sa abid yung pagka-playful pa rin.
18:04And I love it.
18:05I love it that way.
18:06Even,
18:06nung dumadalaw siya sa akin,
18:08boy,
18:08yung first day na dumating siya,
18:10sa,
18:10ano,
18:12pinakausap ako ng Warden,
18:16yung guard,
18:17sabi ni,
18:17kausapin ka ni Warden,
18:19from my cell,
18:20no?
18:20Sabi niya,
18:21oh,
18:21Ricardo,
18:22nandito ng asawa mo,
18:23dumadalaw sa'yo.
18:25Sabi ko,
18:25Warden,
18:25sabi mo,
18:26ayoko siyong kausapin.
18:28Ano?
18:28Nag-gulat si Warden.
18:32Pero ano,
18:33asarap ng spirit of play talaga sa mga kukulis,
18:36yung playfulness.
18:3725 years from the last we had seen each other,
18:40biglang 25 years later kami.
18:43That's true.
18:44That's true.
18:45And I will not forget kung sino ang unang nangalabit.
18:47It's tik-tok time!
19:06Ikaw mag-tuturo sa'yo ni Richard.
19:09At ano sa'yo?
19:10Sidney!
19:15Forward.
19:16Ito na naman tayo.
19:31Richard!
19:32Maraming salamat.
19:34Marina, maraming salamat.
19:35God bless you.
19:36I have flowers for you.
19:38Oh, thank you.
19:39Flowers for you.
19:40Thank you, boy.
19:41Ano mabuhay kayong dalawa.
19:42God bless you.
19:42Maraming maraming salamat.
19:48Maraming maraming salamat.
19:49Apagawa!
19:51Apagawa!
19:51Naitay, kapuso.
19:53Maraming salamat po sa inyong pagpapatuloy sa amin,
19:55sa inyong mga tahanan araw-araw.
19:57Be kind.
19:59Make you na nay proud and say thank you.
20:01Do one good thing a day
20:02and make this world a better place.
20:04Goodbye for now.
20:05God bless.
20:07So, God bless.
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