00:00thank you mr. chairman you know I share your concern about the Asian carp and I
00:05do wonder whether we have the right architecture as a country to solve this
00:12in other words you've got the big burden on your back as the core but for example
00:17in terms of genetic research I don't know if the Vicksburg lab of the core
00:22is sufficient I look at other instrumentalities that we have at NOAA at
00:29Department of Commerce that I keep thinking about our own research labs at
00:34DOE we need a genetic solution perhaps I don't know but it just seems like the
00:43carp are getting ahead of us and we have a fish out strategy working with the
00:51Department of Interior and I don't think it's enough and I had one member from
00:57your state mr. chairman I won't say who it was he came up to me he never cared
01:01about it until it hit his district and then all of a sudden he went crazy okay
01:05so I really do need your advice not now but think about who else could help
01:12across the government of the United States what can we do to stop this spread we're
01:17gonna put up engineering barriers that's part of it but there are probably genetic
01:21controls we can't seem to get to the scientific answer and so I'm just asking
01:26for your advice there who else would you like to have partners around the table I
01:29don't know how you feel about it mr. chair well I share the ranking member
01:34sentiments and of course for years the ranking member has been a champion for
01:38the Great Lakes watershed and I thank her for that God forbid these invasive
01:43species get there so I will commit to working with the ranking member and
01:48anybody who will work with us in Congress on this issue to get a viable
01:53solution I yield back to the gentlelady thank you mr. chairman very much and just
01:59to be we really appreciate appreciate your advice and welcome your advice
02:03general in this area I wanted to just switch for a second on the dredge material
02:10issue also in our region we have the largest budget in the Great Lakes for Lake
02:16Erie as you well know it fits every year if you were to put all that material
02:20together it would rise 400 feet high in the Cleveland Brown Stadium now they and
02:27some people have said me well you should feel the Cleveland Brown Stadium but you
02:32know when you think about that year after year after year and I think of our
02:35scientific capabilities my goodness what can we do with that dredge material I keep
02:41thinking can we put we Cleveland has the largest sewage treatment plant in all of
02:46Ohio and it does amazing things because of science we are able to produce
02:53fertilizer at the end of the process that EPA approves and I keep looking at
02:59this dredge material again I go to the high science we have all these research
03:02labs do is there a bigger answer here where we can use the dredge material we
03:08wouldn't have to you know go to the 20th century solution of confined disposal
03:12facilities but we can put it through tubes right and we can figure out whether
03:16there's dissolved reactive phosphorus whether there's beryllium in there
03:20whatever it is it seems to me that there's a way for detection if we are
03:23going to Mars you mean to tell me we can't decide what to do on earth with our
03:28dredge material again I ask you for your scientific and engineering
03:32recommendations that would guide us as you know mere house representatives here from
03:39our region trying to do the best for the people going forward if you put a
03:42consortium table together with the EPA with our energy research labs with
03:47Vicksburg whatever let's go after this from another way that is perhaps more
03:54promising going forward maybe it's impossible but I just and in this regard
04:01I'll just put on the table this interesting fact as we try to look at new
04:05forms of power we're realizing we're wasting a lot of power and this committee
04:10is energy and water we have solutions nobody else can come up with the
04:13Cleveland sewage treatment plant in one year throws into Lake Erie the equivalent
04:17of 400,000 barrels of oil and waste heat imagine if we could use that power all
04:22across America all across the Great Lakes and create a sub utility to help
04:27process this very stuff this dredge material imagine if we could do that we're not
04:32we're thinking in the past we have nuclear power plants along our shore I believe by
04:40regulation they throw that waste heat into Lake Erie at a temperature of 93
04:44degrees that's wasted thermal heat we have the ability to do things that other
04:49centuries haven't had but I don't see the thinking across the government I think
04:53it's too stove piped into different agencies rather than sort of crossbred and I
04:58I just share that with you as we try to figure out what to do with this dredge
05:02material so please answer a question about if you could reshape how we find
05:09the answer both to the Asian carp threat and to the contaminated sediment help us
05:16help us put that architecture together across the federal government final
05:20question mr. chairman real quickly in terms of enlistment in the core do you
05:25have skills that you are short and have you considered creating a program like
05:30starbase that works across DOD to help encourage young people to come into the
05:36sciences engineering solving real problems for this country there is one
05:40called starbase that is used in different places that is already
05:43authorized I would love to have your suggestion on what we could do through
05:47the core you touch every community in the country I mean you have an
05:52unbelievable ability to draw young people in and I just want to push you a
05:56little bit in in that direction thank you very much my time is expired and I
06:03thank the ranking member for her questions folks ladies and gentlemen we have had
06:10some additional members show up so I want to welcome them at this point in
06:15time I'd like to recognize miss Malloy of Utah my friend for five minutes she is a
06:21water attorney by profession so not only she more than welcome on this committee
06:26but she's going to help me on the water side so I want to compliment you
06:31because under your leadership and I hope I've helped we've had such great turnout
06:35on our subcommittee if you look across the Congress and what happens this is a
06:40working subcommittee thank you mr. chairman and members that have come and I
06:45thank the ranking member and and I appreciate that the ranking members chaired the
06:49subcommittee before I do it we've had other members do it but there is a
06:53tremendous degree of cooperation and it really is a source of pride and inspiration
06:59I hope but I thank the ranking member with that I recognize miss Malloy thank you
07:05mr. chairman for the benefit of the people who are here to testify I apologize
07:09that I missed the first round I had another hearing at the same time so I got
07:13here as quick as I could mr. Cameron
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