Larry C. Johnson: Trump’s Bombshell, Russia’s Future, Israel Faltering & Iran’s Defiance 🔥🌍

Former CIA analyst Larry C. Johnson joins Dialogue Works to unpack major global flashpoints. From Donald Trump’s explosive statements about Russia’s potential downfall, to Israel’s mounting struggles, and Iran’s unwavering ability to repel any military threat—Johnson delivers a sharp, unfiltered analysis of today’s shifting geopolitical order. 🧠🎙️

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Transcript

00:00:00Hi everybody, today is Monday, May 26th, 2025, and our friend Larry Johnson is back with

00:00:11us.

00:00:12Welcome back, Larry.

00:00:13Thanks for having me.

00:00:14Look, it's a holiday here in the United States, and you've already made me take my blood pressure

00:00:17medicine.

00:00:22Larry, after the phone call between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, the tone somehow

00:00:31was positive on the part of the Trump administration, on the part of Russians, until yesterday.

00:00:38Here is what Donald Trump tweeted or posted on his social truth, he said, I've always

00:00:46had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia, but something has happened

00:00:52to him.

00:00:53He has gone absolutely crazy.

00:00:56He's needlessly killing a lot of people, and I'm not just talking about soldiers.

00:01:04He talks about the downfall of Russia.

00:01:07The tone is so much aggressive.

00:01:10What's going on in the mind of Donald Trump right now?

00:01:14Are you claiming that he has a mind, that he's thoughtful?

00:01:20This is, I mean, it's posts like that that makes you really question his sanity and his

00:01:27mental state.

00:01:30So let's look at what happened since Friday and through Sunday morning, Russia launched

00:01:39something like 543 drone attacks, over 83 missile attacks.

00:01:46You know how many civilians were killed according to Ukrainian press, 15.

00:01:55Now I'm not laughing at the deaths of 15 people, but that means that the Russians are really

00:02:03bad shots or they were taking extra care in the, in the launching of these weapons

00:02:11to destroy military facilities.

00:02:13Now I think what's got Trump so angry is that Russia probably killed some American soldiers

00:02:22who were on the ground there fighting with Ukrainians.

00:02:26That's why he's upset.

00:02:29You know, Putin crazy.

00:02:32Look in the mirror, Donald.

00:02:35Crazy is what's on your face, not what's on Putin's face.

00:02:38Putin has made it very clear that he's going to protect and defend Russia.

00:02:44If I guarantee you that if the United States suffered just a 10th of what Russia has suffered

00:02:54as a result of attacks on Russian soil by US supply funded and assisted guerrillas and

00:03:03surgeons or military personnel from say Mexico or Canada, the United States would be trying

00:03:11to obliterate them without regard for killing civilians.

00:03:18You know, we'd be going full BB net and Yahoo on them.

00:03:22So this is, you know, like you, when I, when I, when I read that and then heard his comments

00:03:30on, you know, on the tarmac, what an embarrassment you really, he's a disgrace.

00:03:40Larry it's not just about that.

00:03:43It's about the restrictions that they were Europeans together with the United States

00:03:48were somehow talking about.

00:03:50They're not going to send a lot of weapons, all of the intelligence.

00:03:55They're going to just diminish the level.

00:03:57Even I can argue on the part of the United States was the case that they somehow declared that

00:04:05they're going to reduce the aid to Ukraine, but it doesn't seem that would be the case.

00:04:09The German chancellor said that they're going to remove the restrictions.

00:04:14Britain, France, Germany, together with the United States are going to lift restrictions

00:04:21on the range of military supplies to Ukraine.

00:04:24What does that mean?

00:04:25Well, my understanding, he didn't say that they are going to, he said that they have.

00:04:29Yeah.

00:04:30They have.

00:04:30Yeah.

00:04:30Okay.

00:04:31So it's not, it's not something in the future, something that they've already done.

00:04:34No, no.

00:04:36Okay.

00:04:36So they're going to expand the war and, you know, Germany may get bombed.

00:04:41France may get bombed.

00:04:43UK may get bombed and the United States may get bombed.

00:04:46It's going to be that simple.

00:04:49Russia is not going to stand back and be a punching bag any longer.

00:04:53They said, this is enough is enough.

00:04:56Now, Russia is not, you know, they are not reacting too strongly to Trump's comments.

00:05:06You know, they're standing relatively calm on that front, but Putin did come out today

00:05:12and said very clearly, if that is true, and if this happens, that will be considered that

00:05:18then you are directly involved.

00:05:20And if you're directly involved, then you're a target.

00:05:23And Russia's got this thing called the Arushnik, an intermediate range ballistic

00:05:28missile that they could fire off into Germany, France, or the UK,

00:05:33and they can't do a damn thing to stop it.

00:05:37So, you know, yeah, there's always the potential for this war to escalate.

00:05:41The Europeans have lost their collective minds.

00:05:45And it is, you know, they're going, they're on the road to destroying themselves.

00:05:55And it's all, you know, it's all predicated on the notion that Russia,

00:06:02the fact that Russia is defending itself after, you know, 35, 30 plus years

00:06:07of Western efforts to subvert and destroy Russia.

00:06:12You know, Russia was biding its time, waiting till it was strong enough to,

00:06:17you know, fight off the vandals from the West.

00:06:23What does Germany, what can they do, German government and German army,

00:06:31are they going to send Taurus missiles to Ukraine?

00:06:33Well, they might send the Taurus, they provide the Taurus that I think

00:06:37you guaranteed that there's going to be military strikes by Russia inside Germany.

00:06:42And, you know, the Germans are not in a position to fight anybody.

00:06:48You know, their industrial base even is weakening, which was once, you know,

00:06:52it was the pride of Europe.

00:06:55But, you know, they keep saying, oh, we don't want inexpensive oil and gas.

00:07:01We want the most expensive stuff, so we'll have to close down factories.

00:07:05I noticed just two days ago, this one factory that produced high quality paper

00:07:13that was used in magazines.

00:07:14Now, admittedly, magazines are becoming sort of a thing of the past,

00:07:19as people move increasingly to the digital side.

00:07:21But they couldn't stay in business to serve even a niche market

00:07:28because of the cost of energy.

00:07:30And so when they close, people lose jobs.

00:07:34And as they lose those jobs, and, you know, the shopping in the cities

00:07:38where that factory is, the city where that factory is based,

00:07:41goes down, you know, the economy starts to deteriorate.

00:07:48What is the main objective that Donald Trump is pursuing

00:07:52in the aftermath of the phone call between the two presidents

00:07:55that are somehow, in his mind, they're not going to be achievable?

00:08:01That's why he's changing, if that's the case,

00:08:04that he's changing his rhetoric toward Russia.

00:08:07We know that Europeans are, if I consider Europe

00:08:15as the most radical part of the conflict,

00:08:18they're just going to be more than happy with the new position of Donald Trump.

00:08:24Well, I'm not sure.

00:08:26Cynically, I'd say Trump's interest is to do something

00:08:31that would secure him a Nobel Peace Prize

00:08:33and burnish his reputation as the 21st century Jesus,

00:08:38as far as being a peacemaker.

00:08:42As far as any actual strategy or goal to bring about genuine peace

00:08:47and to stop, you know, to ease the conflicts.

00:08:51Look, this is very, very simple to fix.

00:08:55All he has to do is say,

00:08:57the United States is no longer going to supply any weapons,

00:09:01any financial assistance, no intelligence assistance to Ukraine

00:09:07until Ukraine withdraws from Russian territory.

00:09:10That's number one.

00:09:13Well, that war would come to a screeching halt.

00:09:18But he's not doing that.

00:09:19He's playing the double game.

00:09:21He's, this ain't my war.

00:09:23This is Biden's war.

00:09:24This is Obama's war.

00:09:25This ain't Trump's war.

00:09:27No, it is your war.

00:09:30You know, he's enabling it as much as Obama and Biden did.

00:09:34And he should stop.

00:09:36You know, I really get tired of hearing that refrain come out of his mouth.

00:09:44He is as culpable as anybody.

00:09:46And in some respects more so.

00:09:50Because he says one thing and does another.

00:09:52So the hypocrisy of it.

00:09:57This, you know, Putin has made it clear.

00:10:02They're willing to talk.

00:10:03They'll sit down and talk to the Ukrainians to see if they can negotiate an end to the war.

00:10:10But the war is going to continue.

00:10:13And as Medvedev said the other day, it's been echoed in part by Putin.

00:10:20If they don't take the Ukrainians, don't take this deal.

00:10:22The next time they're going to be talking about disposing of eight

00:10:26oblasts of Ukraine that will now be under Russian control.

00:10:30And Russia will continue to push the buffer zone to the West.

00:10:36Militarily, they can do it.

00:10:38But, you know, we're seeing, I don't know if you intended to go down this path,

00:10:44but there was this article in the Washington Post on the 24th, so that was Saturday,

00:10:52saying that basically Russia's losing the war.

00:10:58And the entire purpose of that article was to put pressure on Donald Trump

00:11:03to provide more military aid and assistance, not to back away.

00:11:08Because the message is, well, Russia's losing, man, all I'm going to do is push a little harder.

00:11:15I wrote an article about it at sonar21.com.

00:11:20In my opening sentence, I just note that if that article, those ladies, the three ladies that wrote

00:11:27it, if they got paid a million dollars per lie, they will have collected a million dollars per

00:11:32lie, they will have collected enough money to pay down at least 10% of the $35 trillion U.S. debt.

00:11:40I mean, it's just packed full of lies and misrepresentations.

00:11:48But, you know, that's what's going on in the West.

00:11:50People deluding, deceiving the American public is a critical element in this ability to continue

00:12:01to support the war.

00:12:04Right after the phone call, when Donald Trump said the two parties should talk to each other,

00:12:11I said that this is not a good sign.

00:12:16Zelensky is not interested in getting anything with Russians.

00:12:19The Zelensky administration, whoever represents Ukraine in these sort of talks,

00:12:24they're not interested.

00:12:25They're interested in the continuation maybe of the talks, of the war.

00:12:30Here is what the Ukrainians are talking about, members of parliament in Ukraine.

00:12:38That the promise of President Trump to achieve peace through strength that we were very hopeful

00:12:44with, that finally he will stop trying to appease Putin, negotiate with Putin, talk about Putin's

00:12:50respect, etc., etc., etc., and move to really two things that actually worked, putting economic

00:12:58pressure on Russia so they would not be able to manufacture drones and missiles, and arming

00:13:03Ukraine the way that we can defend ourselves and push Russia back.

00:13:07This is a reality that needs to happen, and we just hope that there has been enough time,

00:13:13enough proof, enough deaths for President Trump to finally realize what needs to happen next.

00:13:22Yeah.

00:13:23How can you expect these people negotiating, talking with Russians?

00:13:28Well, the entire premise of this is false, that this is a conflict between Russia and Ukraine,

00:13:38that Trump and others in the West are pretending that Russia just woke up on February 2022 and

00:13:47said, by God, we've got these imperial ambitions, we want to conquer the world, we're going to start

00:13:52with Ukraine, without any appreciation for the Western interference, and even prior to the Maidan,

00:14:04the Western Baku, is the building up of NATO, and using NATO explicitly as a way to try to

00:14:17equip Ukraine with the capabilities so that they would be able to take on and defeat Russia.

00:14:26I've heard some people that are the big Kool-Aid drinkers when it comes to

00:14:32the war, and insist that the United States had nothing to do with the Maidan.

00:14:37I would simply point out that anyone who doubts about the influence of Western

00:14:43intelligence agencies in manipulating the situation in Ukraine need only look at

00:14:50Russiagate here in the United States, where we now have irrefutable evidence

00:14:57that the CIA and the FBI, in league with people in the media, concocted an entire

00:15:07fabricated story of Donald Trump being a tool and a puppet of the Russians, and that the

00:15:16Russians were interfering, meddling in our election, for God's sake. It was all a lie.

00:15:24All of this was designed to, if you will, make it impossible for Donald Trump

00:15:29to deal with Russia in a normal way. We've seen the extension of it. We now know that

00:15:40that goes on overseas. The ball is in Donald Trump's court. Is he going to continue to

00:15:52withdraw U.S. assistance and get the United States out of that war, or is he going to

00:15:58up the ante? I mean, candidly, the guy is delusional. At West Point the other day,

00:16:04he was commenting on hypersonic missiles. Russia stole that technology from us? Well,

00:16:10they stole it from us. Why the hell haven't we been able to deploy even one single

00:16:15effective combat operational hypersonic missile? It's because he's lying. We didn't do that.

00:16:24And, you know, he can persist in his fantasy of, oh, we got the best military in the world. We're

00:16:29so good. Yeah, we couldn't defeat the Mujahideen and the Taliban in Afghanistan, and we've failed

00:16:42in Vietnam and Iraq and Syria. You know, come on. At some point, we've got to get off of our

00:16:53military, I call it a psychedelic road trip. Boy, we convince ourselves that we're the best

00:17:01and the greatest, and we're anything but. The only thing we are is facilitators of murder and mayhem.

00:17:12Larry, if you look at the war in Ukraine and the way that the West has provided everything to

00:17:19Ukraine, you name it, from Donald Trump's first term, and he's talking about javelins and all

00:17:27the weapons, Patriot systems. I don't know, even cluster bombs, if you remember, and all of these

00:17:36weapons, they didn't work. The sanctions, this member of parliament in Ukraine, she's asking for

00:17:44the same sort of strategy that has been the case before Donald Trump coming to power. Right.

00:17:50And what else can the West provide to Ukraine in order to help them militarily?

00:17:57Nothing. I mean, you know, look,

00:18:04the key issue is manpower. So, even if Ukraine now lowers the age of recruitment to 18,

00:18:13or they've lowered it and they start bringing in 100,000, 200,000 Ukrainian 18-year-olds,

00:18:22they're not trained. So, where are they going to get trained? Russia right now can hit every

00:18:28single military training facility in Ukraine, if it wants to. So, if you're going to bring together

00:18:36the number, those numbers and start training them, they're going to start getting killed immediately.

00:18:41And any training program to have somebody ready where they could be going on into a battlefield

00:18:48situation and function with some degree of, you know, competence, you're talking six to eight

00:18:56months. Ukraine doesn't have six to eight months. So, it doesn't matter what, you know, brand new

00:19:04toys we provide them, you know, short of providing them with intercontinental ballistic missiles,

00:19:12that the, you know, nothing's going to, there's no game changer. I'm, you know, in the summer of

00:19:182022, Scott Ritter and I had a debate where, when they announced that they were going to send high

00:19:26Mars, that the West was sending high Mars to Ukraine, and they said, well, you know,

00:19:31the West was sending high Mars to the Ukrainians, and Scott was, oh, this is a game changer.

00:19:38And I said, no, it's not. Yeah, it's a new weapon, but it's not going to change the game.

00:19:43It's just going to give Russia one more thing to blow up, which is, you know, it took them

00:19:50initially a little bit to figure out how to defeat it and how to go after it. But, you know, now it's,

00:19:56you know, it's ineffective. Again, Ukraine is now relegated to the position

00:20:01that all they can do is attack civilians. They're not effective at going after

00:20:08hard military targets, and they're certainly not taking back any territory.

00:20:13You know, the argument, like in this Washington Post article I referenced earlier,

00:20:21is, oh, Russia's just making incremental slow gains. And it's like, really?

00:20:31You know, when you look at the amount of territory that they've actually been capturing,

00:20:36but this is not about a war to capture the flag, figure out how much territory you can take.

00:20:45It's first and foremost about bleeding out the Ukrainian military and NATO supplies,

00:20:52and NATO indirectly, which is exactly what Russia's doing. They may reach a point where

00:20:59they're going to launch the kinds of attacks that are going to envelop large portions of territory

00:21:07east of the Dnieper River. You know, I do anticipate that's going to happen,

00:21:12but it just shows the fundamental lack of understanding about what's going on.

00:21:19What's the evidence on the part of Donald Trump? Here he is in his post, Larry, he's talking about,

00:21:25it seems that he feels somehow Russia wants to capture all of Ukraine.

00:21:32Who's providing this information to Donald Trump?

00:21:35And I don't know, after more than two hours of direct talk with Vladimir Putin on a phone call,

00:21:44why is he talking this way? It's just beyond me. I cannot understand what's going on in his mind.

00:21:53Like I said, you're making the assumption that he has a fully functioning mind.

00:22:00I'm questioning his mental competence. You know, the way he keeps in, you know,

00:22:07he starts speaking like he's talking to sixth graders, repeat, you know,

00:22:12repeat stuff over and over. And a lot of what he says is just that absolutely wrong.

00:22:18You know, as I referenced the claim about the hypersonic missiles as an example.

00:22:25Oh, but again, even in that tweet to refer to Putin as crazy, when Donald Trump in the

00:22:33same breath will threaten to blow the, I'm going to blow the hell out of, you know,

00:22:39he's talking about how these nations are coming to kiss his ass. His words, not mine.

00:22:45And look how many countries have lined up to negotiate trade deals with the United States

00:22:51because of Donald Trump's pressure. One, the UK. I said, he's living in an alternate universe with

00:23:01this stuff. You know, while Trump represents a needed change in the American policy,

00:23:13his execution of it is turned out to be pretty chaotic. And he's creating some real problems

00:23:19on the economic front that I think largely will end up potentially destroying his presidency.

00:23:26It's either that, or he's going to, you know, get himself into a war with Iran.

00:23:32So I mean, just, and while he's at it, let's, let's toss in deepening US role in the war in Ukraine.

00:23:42If he finally getting in line with what Europeans want to do in Ukraine, do you think that

00:23:54in the Trump circle, in these people who are surrounding him, who are talking to him,

00:24:00do they really understand what has happened to Russia during the last three years of the

00:24:06conflict? More than three years of the approach in four years. And look at Russia economically,

00:24:13militarily. Do they have a realistic picture of Russia? No, absolutely not. In fact,

00:24:22I'm part of a, of a group of individuals. You know, a lot of them are prominent

00:24:32Wall Street people, investors, you know, you think they have a lot of savvy.

00:24:39And there's a, there's a group of them that, you know, if I gave you their names, you'd know them

00:24:48that are insisting that Russia's economy is collapsing. It's on the verge of collapse,

00:24:52just any minute now. And, but I try to point out, I say, well, that's actually not what I've seen.

00:25:00And, and people who live there that, you know, I've got, you know, I've made friends as a result

00:25:10of my travels there with several people. And, you know, the economic conditions really returning

00:25:16sour, you'd know about it. There's also on the YouTube channel, there's a great story.

00:25:26This one family from Canada that's moved to Russia to start farming. They've got like eight

00:25:33kids. It's called countryside acres. Again, they're not complaining about all the inflation's

00:25:39terrible. We can't get this product. We got, you know, it's normal. And yet when you try to

00:25:45explain that to them, all they come back, oh no, no, you're just, you're just a puppet of Putin.

00:25:51And they insist that the West is, you know, these Western experts are declaring that Russia's going

00:25:59to collapse. And I just, that they're trying to manage the information flow and to deny the

00:26:05reality of what's taking place. So, but you know, that's like an effect. Russia's not worried about

00:26:11what's being said on social media. They're taking care of business on the battlefield.

00:26:17That's where this is going to, that's where this entire matter is going to be decided.

00:26:22It's not going to be through negotiations that, you know, the European desire to get a ceasefire

00:26:28in place so Russia will stop killing and bleeding out the Ukrainians isn't going to happen, in my

00:26:34view. And in terms of their military, Larry, you, in your opinion, Russia, the way that they're

00:26:45just, their military is growing technically and their economy, their budget is growing

00:26:53and they're improving a lot of weapons, making a lot of weapons. The new forces are coming to

00:26:58the army. How, how the war in Ukraine has transformed the Russian army and how is it

00:27:06going to be perceived by the West if we assume that they somehow understand what's going on in

00:27:12Russia? Well, this is actually the process that the Russians had undergone to rebuild their

00:27:18military started in 2008 after the attack on Russian peacekeepers in Georgia and Russia's

00:27:30military response to that. Putin realized early on that they had to do some intense reforms and to

00:27:37rebuild military capabilities. When you go back and look at this, the dismal state of the Russian

00:27:45economy in 1999, when Vladimir Putin took it over and was faced with an aggressive Western-backed

00:27:53war by the Chechens, by these Islamic extremists, which continued for 10 years until, you know,

00:28:01Russia finally beat him. You know, it really is sort of a miracle what, what was, you know,

00:28:09what he has accomplished, what was accomplished under his leadership. And then, you know,

00:28:15followed in office by Dmitry Medvedev, I think in 2008, that, you know, Russia's been preparing

00:28:24this all along. So now, I guess last year, they were recruiting an average of 30,000 soldiers a

00:28:32month, signing up. Yeah, they're getting signing bonuses. And the West says, oh, that's not real,

00:28:39they're just getting signing bonuses. And meanwhile, you got the Trump's Department of Defense

00:28:44celebrating, oh, man, we met all of our recruiting goals last year. Yeah, that you met your recruiting

00:28:51goals, because instead of recruiting 70,000 for the year, the year, we're not talking by month,

00:28:58for the year, they lower the goal to 50,000. Hey, we made our goal. You know, hey, you know,

00:29:08you get the, we'll let you earn your PhD, Nima, if you, instead of answering 100% of the questions,

00:29:15you only have to answer 60%. And then, but you get to say, oh, I got my PhD.

00:29:22You know, that's what they're doing. So, but this year, Russia's signing people up at the

00:29:28rate of 50,000 a month. So the Russian army has grown to be about 1.5 million.

00:29:35And Russia's got the luxury of rotating people in and out.

00:29:40Danny Davis had a, he had a, an American drone operator who's actually fighting on the Russian

00:29:48side on a show the other day. And the guy is talking about how that, you know, what life was

00:29:54like. And, you know, they weren't really, he wasn't really stressed out that they're getting

00:30:01rotations, appropriate rotations, or not being stuck on the line for two, three years at a time,

00:30:07like has happened to many in Ukraine. So, this failure to understand what the Russian

00:30:14military is capable of, and then on, on the production front, in this article,

00:30:18the Washington Post was saying, Oh, Russia's, they're falling behind, they're not gonna be

00:30:22able to keep producing tanks. Well, right now, Russia's producing 250 tanks a year, plus

00:30:30the refurbishing some of the, let's call it Soviet era tanks, updating them, modernizing them,

00:30:37so, you know, probably another 500, 600 of those per year. How many tanks is the United States

00:30:44building? Less than 70. So, here's, here's a country, Russia, with one third the population

00:30:55of the United States, producing three times as many tanks. Mark Rutha, Secretary General of NATO,

00:31:05said the other day that Russia's producing in three months, the amount of artillery shells

00:31:12that NATO combined cannot produce in a year.

00:31:18But Russia's in trouble, you see, that, that's the narrative they're trying to sell down the West,

00:31:23it's just crazy.

00:31:27There, I remember you mentioned that the United States, in order to produce some sort of arms,

00:31:32they needed to bring Turkish experts to the United States to help them.

00:31:40When it comes to the war of attrition, how, the way that is happening right now between

00:31:47Russia and Ukraine, by the way, how do you see the capabilities on the part of the United States?

00:31:54Are they, me talking about artillery shells, we're talking about the weapons that can be used

00:32:01in a war of attrition, is the military industrial complex still interested in producing those sort

00:32:09of arms? Well, it's not a matter of being interested, it's a matter of what money has

00:32:15been appropriated by Congress, or what priorities have been established by the Secretary of Defense.

00:32:21And so you've got an interesting situation underway. They're no longer producing Patriot

00:32:27missiles. Or they're, you know, the Lockheed Martins putting out the missiles that you fire.

00:32:33But as far as the actual batteries, those launch, let's call them the launch systems,

00:32:40my understanding is they're no longer producing that. Same for HIMARS. So they're running out,

00:32:45you know, what, as they use it, they don't have replacements to file in. Now they,

00:32:50they put other new weapons systems on the board that are supposed to be produced,

00:32:54but a lot of those haven't actually gone into production. Or they haven't actually

00:32:58been field tested yet and proven to be effective. So the problem for the United States, and

00:33:06our friend, Andrei Martynov has written about this extensively, is Russia is guided by national

00:33:15security strategy. In other words, they're not, you know, it's like building a house, you lay out

00:33:25you got the blueprint. And then you figure out you got to pour the foundations. And then you've

00:33:31got to raise the infrastructure, the walls. And you know, there's a whole process and sequence

00:33:37that you go through to build the structure. So at the end, you wind up with a home that is,

00:33:42you know, beautiful, something you want to live in. The same applies to defense policy.

00:33:50So from the Russian standpoint, they said, okay, look, we've got to have an army of large

00:33:56enough size that we can fight off an invader. They didn't, we're not, they're not saying we've

00:34:01got to have an army that can go to sell around the world and invade China or invade Saudi Arabia

00:34:12or invade Brazil. Their entire focus is on our military is here for a stay at home and protect

00:34:20us. The same with the air defense, the same with combat air, the same with naval operates. So it's

00:34:27all integrated into a plan, not in the United States. It is, there's no plan about what is it

00:34:36that we're trying to do. We are, you know, we basically set up an international lethal police

00:34:47force where we get to go around and tell other countries what to do. And we're going to try to

00:34:51impose our will, except modern technology now is making this brought a fundamental change to that.

00:34:59And we just saw with the Houthis, you know, again, Trump's tough talk about, oh, we're going

00:35:05to show them by God, we're going to, you know, we're going to learn what hell really is.

00:35:13And who got forced to retreat for the Red Sea? Donald Trump. But he called all the Houthis,

00:35:20they capitulated. So we'll let you off this time. But we ran away. So this is the United States,

00:35:31the complete absence of a strategy is what renders, you know, U.S. military assistance.

00:35:39We've got some bells and whistles, but just having noisemakers doesn't constitute a party.

00:35:48I was wondering if Donald Trump would be bought into this policy of putting more

00:35:53sanctions on Russia. Do you think he's going to go down that path?

00:35:57Yeah, I actually I do. It's going to be if he doesn't choose to do it,

00:36:04his hands going to be forced by the Senate. You know, Lindsey Graham claims he's now got 81

00:36:10sponsors. So himself plus 80 others for this bill to impose bone crushing sanctions on Russia.

00:36:17It's not really on Russia. These sanctions are going to be imposed upon China and India.

00:36:23That, you know, 500 percent. This, you know. The United States

00:36:32is acting like it's the only girl on a desert island with a bunch of guys. OK.

00:36:42We can everybody wants to date us. Everybody wants to make love to me.

00:36:48And so I'm going to I can be as abusive to them as I want. I will pick and choose.

00:36:58Sorry. Not only are we not the only girl on the island, we're the fat, ugly girl.

00:37:04And there are other options. And that's quickly, you know, that that's becoming,

00:37:12you know, a number of countries, you know, some openly, many privately are beginning to express

00:37:16that. That the United States is not a reliable partner. And that, if anything, it's it's a toxic

00:37:24relationship. Maybe the United States is like Macron's wife, Bridgette. Do you see that?

00:37:32She took a punch at him. Whack! Sorry. But they're talking about that wasn't

00:37:42they were just kidding. Just kidding. Yeah. Right.

00:37:49Larry, you've raised a very important point about China and India. We know that

00:37:55China would not be part of the game for the in favor of the United States. But how about India?

00:38:02How they have resisted a lot the policy of the Biden administration. But right now,

00:38:11do you see the same sort of attitude on their part or they're going to just bend

00:38:15under the Trump administration? No, they're not going to bend to Trump. I don't think.

00:38:20You know, I think there may have been let's go back three months ago. There may have been a

00:38:24willingness to bend. But then in light of this terror attack that took place up in the Kashmir

00:38:33area, that and then U.S. subsequent actions, along with threats from the United States to

00:38:43impose tariffs and other things, I think the Indians are going. You know, again, it's like

00:38:49being in a toxic relationship with with an abusive partner. United States, we're not the kind of.

00:38:58You know, think of it as a friendship. If every time, you know, you and I got together,

00:39:05I was requiring you to buy me stuff or to give me stuff. And I was requiring you, you got to do it,

00:39:12my schedule. We're going to do it, my time. We're going to eat what I want. We're going to do what

00:39:16I want. I've been through a couple of point, we said, oh, Larry, man, I'd love to see you. But

00:39:22oh, Larry, man, I'd love to see you. But boy, I'm busy. I got other things to do. You'd be looking

00:39:27for ways to get out. Well, that's really what's going on with the United States. The United States

00:39:36is that the essence of this policy is predicated upon a bullying and abuse,

00:39:43not upon generosity, not upon friendship. Even our so-called aid comes with strings attached.

00:39:53And usually the CIA is connected to it in a way that we can meddle in your country so we can

00:40:00control events to suit our purposes, not yours. You know, look at Africa. What is after, you know,

00:40:11200 years of colonial exploitation in particular? And they're still living with the aftermath of

00:40:19that, like we see in South Africa, where, you know, I understand the hatred of the Blacks,

00:40:27some of the Blacks there against the white community, because that white community was not

00:40:32exactly, you know, Mother Teresa passing out mercy to people. And so you don't solve those

00:40:43problems overnight. But look at the, you know, the Sahel and the poverty there. It's like

00:40:52in Burkina Faso right now, they're still battling an Islamic insurgency. I guarantee you that's

00:40:59getting aid from Western intelligence agencies. For what? Because we want to control the resources,

00:41:06we want to control those people, make them do what we want, not what they want. And certainly

00:41:13not about empowering them to actually become, you know, educated and accomplished. So it's all about

00:41:21fostering dependency. Larry, in the meeting between the African, South African president,

00:41:31he's president or prime minister? He's president, Ramaphosa. Yeah, he said, I don't have the money

00:41:37to buy an airplane for you. Yeah, yeah. What flowers and candy do, you know?

00:41:46And he is getting to that. The reason that I'm mentioning this, that was the case for Donald Trump

00:41:55in the Middle East. He received a lot of somehow generous welcoming to the Middle East. And

00:42:05right now, Donald Trump in his yesterday, he said that he's so optimistic about after the fifth

00:42:12round of negotiations, talks between the United States and Iran, he's optimistic about that they're

00:42:17going to get, they may get something big in that front. And how, what's your evaluation? What's your

00:42:27understanding on what's going on? Because right before the talks happening, the both sides were

00:42:33somehow pessimist about what would happen. And right now, it seems that the tone is changing.

00:42:40Your take on that? Well, the Zionist crowd is doing everything in its power to try to derail

00:42:47those talks. And I know that the, I'll call it the Zionist interpretation. And I've seen, you know,

00:42:56direct messages from this crowd that they were claiming that, oh, Whitcoff just walked out. And

00:43:05you know, so that these talks are all, Iran's going to, it's a matter of days, not weeks before

00:43:14Israel starts attacking. Okay. Now you contrast that with the Iranian foreign minister,

00:43:22Karen said, well, don't get, yeah, actually I'm a little more hopeful now. They're,

00:43:26you know, there are a lot of tough technical issues to be resolved, but we're talking about it.

00:43:32Now, my understanding is this was still indirect talks, you know, so the Iranians to tell the

00:43:37Omanis what they want, and the Omanis walk across the hallway and tell the Americans,

00:43:42you know, what the Iranian said, and the Americans tell the Omanis what to tell the Iranians and,

00:43:49you know, back and forth. You know, they ought to be sitting in the same room talking face to face.

00:43:56But if Trump's serious about this, and I hope he is, this, you know, the deal can be had.

00:44:07It'd be a very simple deal that Iran will be allowed to continue to enrich uranium at 3.6%

00:44:18level. There will be an inspection regimen, maybe with the IAEA, maybe with a combination of IAEA

00:44:27and then US and Russian or Chinese, you know, so that they can verify that, in fact, Iran's not

00:44:38building a nuclear device. And the nature of the deal would encompass that on demand,

00:44:47the Western agencies can go and inspect facilities that they think are being hidden.

00:44:54But, you know, I think Iran is willing to make that kind of deal in exchange for lifting the

00:44:59sanctions. You know, it makes entirely a whole lot of sense. But the hard liners, not just in

00:45:07Israel, here in the United States, and says, no, no enrichment, not only no enrichment, but they

00:45:13also come back and insist that, oh, yeah, Iran's also going to, you know, eliminate its missile

00:45:20force, cut off all contact with Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. Iran's not going to, they're not

00:45:27going to do that. So the fact that Trump in his latest remarks is positive is, you know, I take

00:45:35as a sign of good news. Yeah, I think that we can be somehow optimistic because if you look at the

00:45:43tariffs and the war, some sort of aggressive attack, it was an attack on other countries,

00:45:52the tariff, specifically on China. And he decided to withdraw, he's decided to back down. And if we

00:46:00assume that the war with Yemen was the attack on the part of Donald Trump and his strategy in Yemen,

00:46:09because he wanted, if you remember, the officials in the Trump administration were talking about,

00:46:15we're going to let Iran know how devastating, how the fight would be devastating to Yemen. They're

00:46:25going to learn a lesson from Yemen. That wasn't the case. Is that contributing to what's going on

00:46:32right now between Iran and the United States? Maybe, you know, you're assuming a level of

00:46:41thoughtfulness with the Trump side that I've seen no evidence, you know, for that kind of thinking.

00:46:47But he knows the money, he knows the economy of what's going on. Yeah, you'd think so.

00:46:54But the problem is, you're getting lots of, I'll call it analysis or push from these pro-Zionist

00:47:03groups that they insist that, you know, Iran has no air defense and that it's completely open. And

00:47:13it's just a matter of going in and bombing and blowing up their facilities to prove that they

00:47:17don't have a nuke. It's childish, really. These people haven't learned a thing from, you know,

00:47:24prior U.S. misadventures in Iraq in both 1991 and then 2003, as well as our, you know, failure with

00:47:35the Houthis, most recently, and just what I call the limitations of U.S. military power. So,

00:47:44you know, this, the deal is there to be had, that's the thing. It's so obvious, it's so clear.

00:47:55And yet, all these, the political confusion generated from the Zionists who want to destroy

00:48:03Iran, at any cost, and putting enormous pressure on Trump. And that's why I say you see Trump going

00:48:11back and forth, you know, flipping and flopping.

00:48:18Larry, as you mentioned, Israel is talking about, if the talks with the U.S. and Iran

00:48:27is talking about, if the talks didn't get, if they stop talking to each other, Iranians and

00:48:38the United States, they don't reach an agreement in the near future, they're going to attack Iran.

00:48:43If, on the other hand, they're talking about, if the talks progress and make some sort of,

00:48:50they're getting something from these talks, they're going to be concerned about what's

00:48:55going on between the United States and Iran, they're going to attack Iran.

00:48:59Do you understand what is the, what is the mindset, why, what would be the outcome that

00:49:08would satisfy the government in Israel? Well, Israel does not, on its own,

00:49:14have the capability to attack Iran, short of launching a, you know,

00:49:20a intermediate range ballistic missile with a nuke on it. Okay. Any other attacks that

00:49:30Israel would try to carry out, ultimately are dependent upon U.S. assistance.

00:49:37Israel would need the, you know, intelligence data for locating targets as well as navigating

00:49:45to the target, refueling, maybe some electronic warfare countermeasures, you know, a whole

00:49:54variety of things. So while Israel talks a good game, just doing it on their own is limited.

00:50:01Now, that they're not going to be happy if the United States and Iran sign an agreement.

00:50:12But, you know, there's not a lot that they can do militarily, unilaterally, to disrupt that.

00:50:26What else can they bring to the conflict, to a direct war with Iran that they couldn't bring it

00:50:32to the war against Yemen? Because it's so much important to know what is the upper hand for them.

00:50:40You mean the United States? No, I'm talking about Israelis, not talking about the United States.

00:50:45Nothing. Well, a nuke. If they decide to use a nuclear weapon, that's it. They have even less

00:50:56leverage and capability when it comes to Iran, simply by the distance. At least with the

00:51:05Houthis in Yemen, it's a shorter time distance problem for Israel. But moving forces that far

00:51:14to the east for Israel would be very, very difficult. That's why I said they can't do it

00:51:20without U.S. assistance. Larry, if you look at Israel today and what's going on in Israel,

00:51:31in terms of the position of Netanyahu and the way that his government is trying to

00:51:36somehow manage the situation in Israel, we know there is a lot of criticism coming from the

00:51:44society to the government, and they're not happy with the situation. But it seems that they're

00:51:51totally agreeing with the policy in Gaza. When it comes to Iran, is that the case?

00:51:58The public opinion in Israel, do they want a war, a direct war with Iran?

00:52:03Oh, yeah. Do they really understand the outcome of that sort of war?

00:52:09Well, yes and no. Yes, they want the war. Yes, they think they can defeat Iran,

00:52:15and no, they don't understand what they're getting themselves into.

00:52:20Just, well, look, they didn't understand what they were getting themselves into when they

00:52:24decided to respond to October 7th with this military onslaught against

00:52:32all the Palestinians in Gaza, not just Hamas. They did have other options, and if nothing else,

00:52:42with the attack on October 7th, they could have rallied international support

00:52:50and pursued a diplomatic, if you will, isolation and punishment of Hamas.

00:52:57There were actually, you know, countries in the world that would have backed them up on that at

00:53:01the time. Not now. So, Israel's got some significant problems. You know, we've been

00:53:14hearing that they were going to launch this operation, what's it called, Gideon Shield,

00:53:20to, you know, destroy and depopulate Gaza. You know, they've been threatening to do that

00:53:28now for at least two weeks. They still haven't carried it out. Yeah, they're killing

00:53:34100, 200 Palestinians every day, but they haven't launched that whole operation. You've got to step

00:53:41back and say, why? You know, what's going on? And part of the problem is that the reserves

00:53:50the reservists that, you know, constitute the majority of Israel's army,

00:53:55they're not responding to the call-ups. They're protesting. So, even though they've got a

00:54:01majority of people that want to get rid of the Palestinians and want to get rid of Iran,

00:54:07when push comes to shove, they're not actually lining up and getting in uniform and say, okay,

00:54:13charge, let's go to the front. So, they've got deep, deep divisions and those divisions are

00:54:23growing, you know, more profound with each passing day. I don't know if you saw the clip that

00:54:31Piers Morgan is talking with Israeli official or the representative of Israeli army or

00:54:39Israeli government. He mentioned that more than 20,000 Hamas fighters were killed so far.

00:54:46Do we have any sort of evidence for that, that they're making something up or

00:54:53how did you find that? I don't find it credible.

00:55:00If it actually decimated Hamas in that fashion, then Israel would be able to just freely roam

00:55:07all over Gaza right now, and they're not able to. They keep getting ambushed and attacked as

00:55:14they come in. So, you know, the word is, other reports suggest that Hamas' recruitment has

00:55:23increased, not diminished, which I find that credible. And the train is not on their side

00:55:29right now. The what is? The train, the situation in Gaza, the way that they have bombed everything

00:55:37just destroyed and make it rubble. Yeah, well, the train has become like Stalingrad.

00:55:46And, you know, the lesson that the Germans learned much to their chagrin was that when

00:55:52they bombed that city and turned it into rubble, that rubble became a source of cover and concealment

00:56:00and it made it also difficult for tanks to traverse these areas. And,

00:56:08you know, it gives the defenders an advantage. You know, not necessarily a decisive win,

00:56:15but certainly an advantage. So, you know, Israel's, some of us predicted this at the outset,

00:56:23that that would be a problem for Israel. This has proven to be true.

00:56:29The other day, we've learned that United Kingdom, together with France and,

00:56:35I don't know, the third country, but they were pushing, they were putting pressure on Netanyahu

00:56:43when saying that this sort of war has to stop. But here is what, Larry, the conservative leader

00:56:51came, he made a knock, said on Sky News in terms of the fight in both in

00:57:01Gaza and in Ukraine, but he, she was focused on Gaza.

00:57:08And that actually you think that Mr. Netanyahu's language on this is justified.

00:57:15I'm not here to police the language of the Prime Minister of Israel.

00:57:18I'm not asking you to police it, I'm asking-

00:57:20What he has said, he's-

00:57:21People need to know where you stand on this.

00:57:23But I've been very clear where I stand. Hamas is a terrorist group. They are not our friends.

00:57:27No, no, I'm talking about what you think about the Israeli actions and language.

00:57:30Yes, but it's all related. Who funds Hamas? Iran. An enemy of this country.

00:57:35I'm asking you about-

00:57:35An enemy of this country. Israel is fighting a proxy war on behalf of the UK, just like Ukraine

00:57:40is on behalf of Western Europe against Russia. We have to get serious. We have to get serious.

00:57:46There was a terrorist plot in London against the Israeli embassy. We saw two Jewish members of the

00:57:52Israeli embassy in DC killed. Whose side are we on? We need to make sure that the hostages are

00:57:58returned. No one wants to see a war in Gaza. Palestinians are suffering. Netanyahu is

00:58:03complaining that he thinks our leaders are carrying out the wrong action. He has every

00:58:08right to say that what I want to see is Keir Starmer making sure that he is on the right

00:58:13side of British national interest. That cannot be on the side of Hamas.

00:58:17I'm asking-

00:58:19What is the right side of the British national interest? And how is that a proxy war? Who's

00:58:29fighting with their proxy in that region? These are civilians.

00:58:35Yeah, well, look, you can go back and, you know, if you look at history,

00:58:44Britain is probably the most responsible for the chaos that dominates West Asia.

00:58:51You know, it was their moves into Iran, where we're talking more than, you know, 100 years ago,

00:59:00to try to get control of the oil. And they manipulated the process, the political process

00:59:06in Iran. And they were a big player with the CIA in 1953 in ousting Mossadegh.

00:59:17Similarly, they controlled, you know, the Sykes-Picot agreement, where they sort of

00:59:23divided up the Middle East, after carving it out from the Ottoman Empire.

00:59:30Yeah, Britain is part of the problem. You know, that if that island sunk into the ocean,

00:59:38the world might be better off, at least as far as its foreign policy is concerned.

00:59:45They've been detrimental and malicious in so many ways. And again, the colonial legacy of their

00:59:53their exploitation of people around the world, where we're talking India, South Africa,

01:00:02Palestine, Iran. I mean, it's just it's gone on and on. So, you know,

01:00:11and what's sort of embarrassing is, you know, this woman's not it was not a native

01:00:18British citizen. She, you know, she's a black woman, which comes out of the colonial heritage.

01:00:24Which makes it even worse.

01:00:25Yeah, it's just, you know, we got an expression for that in the United States. It's called Uncle

01:00:30Tom. You know, the house servant that's suddenly, you know, taken up for the master. You know,

01:00:38it's embarrassing.

01:00:40Larry, after all, is the case of Gaza, in your opinion, is the case of Gaza is we know we've

01:00:49learned that Hamas is right now talking with, they're trying to negotiate with the other part,

01:00:55Israel, the United States, whatever that would be. Do you have any sort of hope in any sort of

01:01:02ceasefire in the near future?

01:01:04Do you have any sort of hope in any sort of ceasefire in the near future?

01:01:09No, I don't.

01:01:13The starvation is so bad.

01:01:15Yeah, yeah. The world doesn't care. You know, this, if, like you saw with Saudi Arabia and the

01:01:23Gulf Arabs, they're in a position. Yeah, Trump wants to have a good relationship with them.

01:01:28They're in a position where they can say, hey, look, you know, we're willing to have that

01:01:32relationship, but you've got to stop Israel right now. This genocide has got to be put to a halt.

01:01:40And the rights of the Palestinian people need to be respected. Instead, what we're getting in the

01:01:45United States is this red scare. It's like the red scare of the 40s and 50s. But instead of

01:01:53communists, you know, we're now using anti-Semitism and anti-Semitism gets defined as anybody that

01:01:58opposes Israel's murder of Palestinians. You know, by that definition, yes, I'm an anti-Semite.

01:02:08Now, they want to say that that means you hate Jews. You know, this is not about,

01:02:12this is about hating Jews. This is about hating the Zionists who believe that they're more special

01:02:19than anybody else because God loves, God likes them. It doesn't really, everybody else are scum

01:02:24that God wants to wipe, you know, like dog manure on their shoes, just wipe it off, scrape it away.

01:02:33What sort of God is that? That's really the God of Israel? This, you know,

01:02:41guy, this deity that plays favorites? It's appalling. It really is appalling.

01:02:49And the arrogance of it is just sickening.

01:02:54And the Zionist is not just about Jews. It's, we have a lot of Christians.

01:02:59Oh yeah, no, the problem is, you know, and I know I offend a lot of Christians with this,

01:03:06but the Old Testament by and large, it's a fraudulent book. The deity that's presented

01:03:13in the Old Testament is demonic because it's a God that doesn't, you know, on the one hand,

01:03:20claims to have created everything, but out of that creation, only, only this one group of people

01:03:27get the special attention. They're the only, they get the right to kill other people.

01:03:32This, this God that they worship wants blood sacrificed, wants children sacrificed,

01:03:38you know, kill the children of Egypt, you know, it's just, it's sick. And yet the people in the

01:03:47religious belief get into it and then it becomes, oh, you know, if you speak out against it,

01:03:51oh my God, you're a heretic. That's why I'm much, I'm much more comfortable with the teachings of

01:03:59Jesus. There's none of the special, only you, because of, you know, who you are, where you,

01:04:07who you were born to, your lineage, your, your biological lineage determines whether or not

01:04:12you are part of the special people. Sorry. You know, I go from the, if we're going to operate

01:04:20on the concept of deity and that, as we say in our Declaration of Independence, we hold these

01:04:27truths to be self-evident that all men, that refers to man and woman, male and female,

01:04:35all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

01:04:42I believe that. And so once you come with that belief, you have to say, hey,

01:04:48everyone is a creation of God. We don't get to say this person's not worthy of that. Now,

01:04:58unfortunately, some of God's creation take great delight in killing and maiming others.

01:05:05And, you know, that's what we need to put a stop to.

01:05:11Thank you so much, Larry, for being with us today.

01:05:14Well, my pleasure, man. We'll, I guess we'll talk to you at the end of the week.

01:05:19Yeah, exactly.

01:05:21Okay. Bye-bye.

01:05:22Bye-bye.

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