00:00Meghan, in Montecito, in sun-drenched California, have set up what's been described as a royal court.
00:06What's going on?
00:08A royal household.
00:08I'll take it back to the segue of polls.
00:11So apparently, Harry has looked at the latest polls that put him down at 27%.
00:16And he's actually, no, he seriously has.
00:18He's looked at them and he's upset by it.
00:20And he's realised, and this is a source really close to him,
00:23has told me that he's realised there's nowhere to go but up.
00:26So what he's done is he's decided, okay, what hasn't been working?
00:29And that's US sunshine sacks, kind of Hollywood PR agents,
00:34just anything Hollywood and American, basically, hasn't worked for him.
00:38What did work for him?
00:39When was he popular?
00:40When he was part of the royal household.
00:42When he wasn't with Meghan.
00:43Well, and that, but he's never going to admit that at this point.
00:46But anyway, what he's done is he's set up around himself the exact thing
00:50that he's been railing against all these years,
00:52which is a really concrete, firm structure of a hierarchical,
00:57top-down kind of PR voices on his behalf and chiefs of staff.
01:04And it's basically a royal household.
01:06This is like a faux royal household.
01:08And it's interesting you say that Harry actually looks at these things.
01:12He looks at the comments, he reads the headlines,
01:14he looks at the poll figures.
01:15I've heard before that he used to scour Twitter under an anonymous username
01:21looking for anything to do with comments to do with his name.
01:23Is that true?
01:24That is true, although he does now, with this new structure,
01:28they actually protect him from reading the British tabloids.
01:30So they basically read on his behalf the British tabloids.
01:33Meghan does not at all read the British tabloids.
01:36Nothing.
01:36She does not engage in British media whatsoever.
01:38Right.
01:39And she's shielded from that by this new household.
01:41And the point of the new household is this kind of shield around them
01:45that protects them because they hated Kensington Palace.
01:48But thanks to Kensington Palace, they got away with murder
01:51and quite a lot of their behaviour.
01:53And they were really protected by Kensington Palace.
01:56And they were pretty ungrateful at the time, as we all now know.
01:59But they've kind of admitted now, OK, especially Harry,
02:02well, actually, that was quite nice and it's all I've ever known,
02:05having all these people around me protecting me.
02:07Sounds a bit desperate.
02:08Sounds like they've realised that they've messed up.
02:10Nobody really likes them.
02:11The polls are suggesting and showing that Harry's not very popular
02:14and they're thinking, oh, goodness me, how can we salvage this?
02:17But this sounds like a sensible move in Harry's interest.
02:20But the interesting question, Charlotte, is Meghan bought into this?
02:24Meghan is bought into this.
02:25She's been given her own chief of staff
02:27and Harry's got his own separate chief of staff.
02:29And this is quite a big development for them
02:31to have sort of separate people running their lives.
02:33She is bought into it and this is why as well,
02:35because there's going to be a commercial arm to Harry's future months.
02:39I actually don't know the full details,
02:41but I know there's going to be,
02:42and I'm going to be leaked at first, don't you worry.
02:44You mentioned in your piece that Harry wears the trousers.
02:47Yeah, this is what I was told, is that Harry wears the trousers.
02:51I mean, the body language does say otherwise,
02:54but they insist.
02:56I mean, that is their message,
02:57that, you know, Meghan is, you know,
03:00this lovely wife to Harry
03:02and he's kind of running things behind the scenes
03:05and that he's got this new commercial social enterprise venture.
03:10And actually, all this kind of selling jam and pancake stuff
03:13has been her time
03:14and he's been standing back to let her shine.
03:16And now he's going to come forward.
03:17And this year, especially towards the end of the year,
03:20is going to be about him and what he's selling.
03:23It's a sorry state of affairs, isn't it?
03:25Like, Harry, you know, I respect Harry, of course.
03:28He served this country.
03:29He's done military tours,
03:31so you can never disrespect somebody like that.
03:32But it's just, what a sorry state of affairs.
03:35He had it all in the UK.
03:37He then met Meghan and I'm sure,
03:40I don't know her,
03:41I'm sure on a personal level,
03:42she's, you know, a nice lady.
03:43I'm sure she is.
03:44But she's completely rubbed everybody off the wrong way.
03:47And Harry is now, he just looks miserable.
03:49But I'm happy for him in a way
03:50because he's at least realised that
03:52and he's realised what worked before worked.
03:54Divorce then?
03:55Yeah, exactly.
03:56I mean, the saying,
03:57too little, too late comes to mind.
03:59I mean, I do wonder if he regrets marrying her secretly
04:02because of all of his cares.
04:03He's got two children.
04:04Now he's got kids and everything.
04:05She's meant to be a big, big diva.
04:06I'm sure they'll probably stay together, but...
04:08Harry was popular when he was relatable.
04:10Before he ripped apart the royal family
04:12and before he sold out his brother in a book,
04:15people loved him
04:16because he was that cheeky chappy.
04:18For me, over the last five, seven years,
04:20he's just become a bore
04:22and an embarrassment to this country.
04:24But at least now he's owning it.
04:25I mean, that's what we've all been wanting.
04:27It's for him to just wake up and realise,
04:29you know, what have you been doing, Harry?
04:31And now he has.
04:31He's woken up.
04:32I mean, it looks a little bit like
04:33he's perhaps starting to get a little bit of
04:35space and autonomy in that relationship
04:37because I think a lot of us have looked at it
04:39for many years and thought
04:40Meghan was very much wearing the trousers.
04:43He was just being forced to do as she says
04:45and she's completely in charge,
04:46but it looks like he's maybe set some boundaries now
04:49and created a bit of separation.
04:50That's so perceptive.
04:50And maybe that will, as I said,
04:52I think it's a bit too little today,
04:53but it might improve things a little bit.
04:55She'll be after your job, Charlotte.
04:56She'll be down Derry Street.
04:58Again, with respect to Harry,
04:59it looks like his life is in a bit of a mess
05:01at the moment.
05:02We had.
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