- 5/17/2025
The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 9
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00:00Jesse! I'm in the closet. In the closet? I'm back to my second bedroom. Hi, how are you?
00:06I brought you some cookies. Oh my gosh, did you make these? Yes. They're so cute. I know you have a sweet tooth.
00:13Um, literally I'll eat all of these today. You know me. Going through a bunch of shit. I mean, I figure
00:18Jordan's fat butt will be eating him too. No, it's so true. We're gonna finish these by today, so.
00:23Okay, wait. I know. So New Orleans is like green and purple.
00:27So for one of the nights, I'm gonna do like this. What? Didn't you buy these for this? Oh, I bought everything, yeah.
00:31Nuh-uh. Mm-hmm. A while ago, we decided that we wanted to go on another girl's trip.
00:36So I booked us a house and everything's set in stone, but after scenes in Sinners, it's definitely awkward timing.
00:43She doesn't think you're good at hair.
00:45She told me not to go to you for hair and that's why I went to a different salon. Talk to me because this is
00:48about me. Look me in the eyes, you narcissist. Look at me. We talked about the way that you treat your, your boyfriend.
00:54I'm gonna protect
00:56your ever in this situation.
00:59Let's take it there, Taylor. There's still tension with a few of the girls, but the trip is paid for, so we are going.
01:04Hopefully we don't regret this. Speaking of baked goods, because you're so nice to bring me this,
01:09um, I got an update and I actually have to get surgery. Oh my gosh, so you're getting the whole thing out?
01:14I'm gonna do half. And then the sucky thing is, is they said they can't tell me if it's cancer or not till after the
01:19surgery. Like they won't know till they take it out.
01:22But if I don't get it removed and it is cancer, it could spread to my lymph nodes.
01:26How do you feel about it all?
01:28I'm like trying to stay positive because I do think that if you're sick,
01:31if you dwell on it and have a bad attitude, it can make you worse. Like that's just my belief.
01:36Once the show came out, I had a few nurses actually reach out to me on social media.
01:40They all told me that I looked like I had an enlarged thyroid and I should get it checked.
01:44It prompted me to make an appointment.
01:46So I went to a thyroid specialist and they did an ultrasound and found that I had
01:51six nodules on this side, one on this side that was enlarged.
01:54Basically, we came to the conclusion that I should get a partial thyroid removal. Having this health issue
02:00unfold, it does put things into perspective.
02:02I think we need to focus on the bigger picture.
02:04So crazy that I could just be living with it and not know though.
02:07So why don't you do it? Well, if you are, gosh, damn, I don't think I would be like that.
02:11I know everyone else would be like, I'm done. No, I would be like laying in bed all day.
02:16Like everyone would bring me food and rub my feet. You're like, I'm going to Dallas. I'm going to LA.
02:20No, I'm like legit. No, New Orleans. Are you excited for the trip? I am excited.
02:25I feel like I'm curious. How are things going to go?
02:28I just feel like the trip has more opportunities to be explosive than not.
02:32I think I'm mostly worried about Demi and Taylor. Demi and Taylor, for sure.
02:36And then I'm also just worried about like Demi and the hair stuff.
02:38I'm kind of like, are you going to just say really terrible things about me and then justify it?
02:42So, yeah, I don't know. I think I'll have to talk to Demi about it at some point.
02:44That's so messy. I know. I'm sorry.
02:46That's like hard because I feel like it like friendships, especially when it's like your best friend.
02:50It makes it so hard because it's like you don't want to question them.
02:52No, that should be the person you go to for things and like to vent.
02:55That would have been hard for me if like Michaela said that about me.
02:57I've been like, OK, bye.
03:00In mom talk, from my perspective, it's all about supporting women and being there for each other.
03:05But right now it feels petty and honestly kind of toxic.
03:08It just feels like the drama is becoming the cancer in the group.
03:11So we're going to have to have deeper conversations to work out those issues.
03:15Yeah. Wait, how would you handle this?
03:17Because you're really good at seeing both sides.
03:19And I know that can be frustrating for us, but I need to know,
03:22how would you do it if Michaela was doing this to you?
03:24I mean, Michaela did talk about this situation and she was like,
03:26if you did that to me, I would have been like, you're not my friend anymore.
03:45I got everything you could ever want.
03:49Try me and you'll see, I'll bring you to your knees.
03:53Baby, you're gonna believe.
03:55There's nothing to temptation, there's nothing to temptation, temptation.
04:11I can feel it in my mind.
04:13Ooh, Parva! Let's go!
04:27Do we ever have any other method of transportation?
04:29No, we don't. We just, we have to ride on a pole to get to our place or else it didn't happen.
04:34Guys, where's the pole?
04:36I'll be at the pole, someone dance on me.
04:39Ooh!
04:42Can I like confess something to you guys?
04:44Yes.
04:44After the Saints and Sinners event, I did a sage cleanse.
04:48No!
04:49I would do, I would have too.
04:51I don't blame you.
04:52I'm done.
04:53Get these girls out of here.
04:56Goodbye!
04:57Goodbye!
04:58This whole group needs a sage, seriously.
05:01I really want to enjoy this trip, but there is some unspoken tension between Demi and I.
05:06We have not talked about what came out about what she said about Jay-Z styles.
05:09So it's looming in the back of my mind that I need to pull her aside and hash it out because I'm really hurt by it.
05:15Well, is it weird that the group's like down to seven right now?
05:19I know, small.
05:20Kayla and I were together last night and Jordan got a call from Dakota and he was like,
05:25oh, he told me Taylor's not going on your trip.
05:27Like that's how we found out she wasn't coming.
05:29And I was like, oh, yeah, I think she's just like not mentally able to do this, which makes sense.
05:34Taylor's not here.
05:35And so that feels a lot better to me.
05:37I think she's kind of playing the avoidant game a little bit.
05:40And for good reason, I think she should be scared of me.
05:44But I'm hopeful that Mom Talk will be able to kind of repair some of the friendships within this group with the toxicity not present.
05:52I will say the energy without having Taylor here is nice.
05:56Like not feeling like I'm walking on eggshells.
05:58That is nice for you, for sure.
06:01I think it definitely sucks that Taylor is not coming on this girl's trip.
06:04And now I feel bad because I told Taylor that I'm going to have her back at St. Ansoners and I didn't.
06:09I definitely think that Demi is kind of at fault for the group's divide right now.
06:13Taylor did wrong her in some situations, but so did Demi to bring a child to it.
06:18You just don't cross those lines.
06:20But yeah, there's definitely some weird vibes right now.
06:22Do you guys not feel that way?
06:24Do you not feel like that eggshell feeling around her?
06:26No.
06:27No, honestly, I feel worse because I thought that the blow up would be you guys.
06:30And now that she's not here, I'm like, what's going on?
06:32Yeah, who is it?
06:36Mikaela, it's Spooky.
06:38All right, let's go.
06:39You guys, it's cute.
06:41Wait, I love it.
06:43The house is so charming and cute.
06:45Like we're just really immersing ourselves with the culture of New Orleans.
06:49Oh, fancy.
06:52I feel like New Orleans.
06:53New Orleans.
06:55New Orleans.
06:56What have I been saying?
06:57Princess Tiana says New Orleans.
07:00This is your next info for your next hair extension one.
07:02Yep, these are my West.
07:03This house is definitely very New Orleans, and I wanted this experience to feel very genuine and authentic.
07:08So I even hired a private chef to make us a very authentic Louisiana meal.
07:12So we're going to really embrace the culture the very first night.
07:15Oh, my gosh.
07:16Hello.
07:17Nice to meet you.
07:18I'm Jessie.
07:19Oh, damn.
07:20Mikaela, rub elbows.
07:21This house is amazing.
07:22Look at this.
07:24Oh, my gosh.
07:26Oh, my God.
07:27It's beautiful.
07:28Wait.
07:29I'm obsessed.
07:30Look at the mocktails.
07:31Wow.
07:33So on this side, we have fried chicken, grilled chicken, blackened salmon, garlic butter noodles, gumbo, nolisau, eggs, egg rolls, crab cakes, shrimp, and lobster mac and cheese.
07:46Oh.
07:47Cajun baby rice, zucchini, and squash.
07:49I'm so excited.
07:51This is so fun.
07:52Let me have a drink.
07:54No, but like I want to, but I'm breastfeeding.
07:56All right, let's go get dressed really quick, get our rooms, and then we'll come back down.
08:02Hello.
08:03The fog.
08:04This is so freaking cute.
08:06I know.
08:07I want us to all be able to enjoy and have fun together.
08:09But I'm also stressed out because I'm still hiding my pregnancy, and I'm waiting for the right time to tell the girls, especially Demi, because I know she's been going through infertility for a while now.
08:18It is so, like, emotionally draining.
08:22Like, it's because you can't figure out, like, what's going on.
08:27It's more like how bad I want that with someone that I'm, like, in love with.
08:35Demi is so fired up about Taylor right now that it just doesn't feel like this is the right time.
08:39I've had literally one bite, and I'm like, wait, this is the best food I've ever had.
08:43Yeah, I took one bite of that shrimp, and I was like, ooh, yum.
08:46Did everyone get the video of Jen?
08:48What?
08:49She sent in a group chat.
08:50I don't know if I'm in that.
08:51Oh, she did.
08:52Whoa.
08:53What?
08:54I have not spoken with Jen since our conversation where she stormed out, and I know she's really spiteful towards both me and Demi right now.
09:02So I'm very curious to see what she has to say.
09:05To all of us?
09:06Yes.
09:14Did everyone get the video of Jen?
09:16What?
09:17OK, hold on.
09:18Hold on.
09:19Wait, let me play it for you guys.
09:20OK.
09:21Everyone be quiet.
09:22Guys, excuse what I look like.
09:23I just came out of therapy.
09:25As you guys probably know, I'm pregnant, and the first trimester is absolute hell.
09:31I've been in some of the darkest places of my life, and I'm focusing on not only on my physical health but my mental health.
09:42And in order to protect this baby, I feel like it's important that I stay at home and get some rest.
09:50I've been hurting, and because of that, I think I've maybe hurt some of you, and I'm really sorry.
09:58Oh, my gosh.
10:00I'm sorry.
10:02Anyways, love you guys.
10:04Hope to talk to you soon.
10:07All right, so what does everyone think about that?
10:10For me, as someone that's dealt with mental health issues, I feel like it's hard, because I feel like that trumps everything, in my opinion.
10:17I know what she's done, and it's not discrediting what she's done to people in this room, because it's not OK.
10:22But I think, at the end of the day, at least for me, I'm going to prioritize that she's in that dark of a place and kind of have that take precedence, in my opinion.
10:34Give her some grace.
10:36Yeah.
10:38She's mentioned to me a handful of times how she's like, I feel really bad about the way that I treated Jessie, and I want to apologize formally.
10:47I'm open to talking to her, for sure.
10:49I definitely want closure.
10:51Even if she was just like, I was going through a shitty time, and I did shitty things.
10:54That's good enough for me.
10:56Just tell me why, and let's just hope it doesn't happen again.
10:58Totally.
10:59I think it's great that you're in that position to give her enough grace, because I know it was a pretty bad blowout.
11:05That shows a lot about your character.
11:07Thanks.
11:08Hearing all of the things that she said made me realize that she's been struggling more than I thought.
11:13My heart does go out to her.
11:15I'm glad to hear that she's getting help, and I think I learned from our fight that I never want that to happen again.
11:20I wish I would have handled that better.
11:22It goes against everything we stand for in mom talk.
11:24We want to be honest with each other and have those hard conversations, but we should never be yelling at each other,
11:29and I'm disappointed that I did that.
11:31When she's ready, I will totally have a calm conversation with her,
11:35and I really do hope that she's getting the help she needs so that she can be herself again.
11:39I have a hard time with someone who's sitting there being like,
11:42I've been working on myself, I've been coming so far.
11:44Things change, though.
11:46In a week and a half, they can.
11:48I don't know that I totally buy it.
11:54First of all, crying videos will never not be weird to me.
11:57I think it's so strange to film yourself crying,
12:00and I think it's a little bit manipulative and a little bit cowardly still.
12:05I understand you're going through a hard time.
12:07I know you're mentally struggling,
12:09but I think also follow it up with a text to the people you have real issues with,
12:14and I just don't think Jen's capable, to be honest.
12:18It does make me hesitant to tell her anything, though,
12:21because it's a pattern of digging up the past.
12:24I feel like at this rate, I'm hesitant to tell anyone in this group anything.
12:27Really?
12:28I'm being completely honest.
12:29I don't know, just because I'm seeing Taylor's situation and you guys.
12:32Anything you say will be taken into future argument,
12:35and I feel like that's what I've noticed in certain arguments that I've seen.
12:38I'm like, ew, that makes me not want to say or ever be vulnerable.
12:41Let's also not demonize the whole group,
12:43because there are a lot of valuable friendships in the group that people genuinely do care.
12:48I think it's a little harsh of Demi when we don't know the severity
12:52of what Jen's going through with her mental health right now,
12:55and so I'm just a little bit more hesitant when it comes to trusting Demi.
12:59There's people within the group that I think you genuinely can trust.
13:02No, and I get that, but because I'm seeing it happening so frequently,
13:06I'm like, ooh, it scares me.
13:08New Orleans is known for its nightlife, so we cannot come here and not go out on the town,
13:33so I arranged for us to go to a burlesque show.
13:36I did learn my lesson from Chippendales, though.
13:38I'm not going to spring anything on them.
13:40I'm going to warn the girls what we're doing,
13:42but I think this is going to be a really fun way to experience the culture.
13:51The only burlesque I've seen is the Broadway Moulin Rouge,
13:55and it was so much fun.
13:57The tassels, they had the cute outfits,
13:59so I'm just excited to have a fun time.
14:05Bonjour!
14:10This is definitely not what I thought the show was going to be.
14:16I'm a little scared I'm going to have PTSD from this night.
14:20Yeah, this is not what I was thinking a burlesque show was, if I'm being honest.
14:25I did not think I was about to see the cooch, the wooch, the titty, all of it.
14:36Are you ready?
14:38Oh, a joint!
14:44Joy out of my cooter!
14:52Leila, she pulled it out of her vagina, what are you doing?
14:59Cut it from the show. I regret everything.
15:02You forgot! You forgot!
15:06Hands up! Hands up!
15:10Leila, open your mouth.
15:12It was to me's fault, because she's like, Leila!
15:15And I was like, oh no, I forgot it came out of her vagina!
15:19Honestly, I would have judged you more if you didn't, so you're welcome.
15:22There could have been bodily fluids.
15:27She could have had a yeast infection!
15:36I'll miss you now.
15:40I'll miss you now.
15:44I'll miss you now.
15:47Hello!
15:48Hey, how's it going?
15:50What are you guys doing, a puzzle?
15:52Yeah, do you want to help?
15:53Oh, this looks miserable.
15:56Why?
15:57I don't do these kind, I do puzzles all the time with my kids.
16:00Your five piece puzzles?
16:02Yeah, they're like ten pieces.
16:05After that whole situation at Saints and Sinners, I am not in a good head spot.
16:10Demi brought up the low point of my life.
16:13To bring that up was insane.
16:16It's very triggering.
16:17I know you're hurt at me right now and you're coming at me,
16:19but you're going to hurt other people in the process.
16:23So you know the Saints and Sinners party, did I tell you about that or no?
16:27No.
16:28So I already knew that Demi was ready to come at me,
16:30because she felt strongly about the situation,
16:32and obviously we were going back and forth.
16:34What situation?
16:35My post.
16:36Oh, okay.
16:37Like the CMA one?
16:38Yes, yes, I remember.
16:40She's saying Dakota and I are in a toxic cycle,
16:43and so it's like if you want to go there,
16:46just know that you could potentially ruin someone else other than who you're trying to ruin.
16:50Like, shut up.
16:52She's like a bully.
16:53She is literally a bully.
16:55I'd go to war.
16:57Like there's a, if you poke at me, it's straight to war.
17:00There's no petty, there's nothing, it's just straight to war.
17:05She's a CW.
17:09CW?
17:10Yeah, CW.
17:11What are you going to say?
17:14What is the CW?
17:15What are you saying?
17:16She doesn't know how to spell.
17:19This is such like a personal thing that I've gone through.
17:23It went freaking on the news everywhere,
17:26and it's just like I'm doing all the work that I can.
17:30I mean, he's been out of my house for like almost five months now.
17:34We've been going to major therapy, trauma therapy.
17:37I'm like doing everything that we can to become better in protection of like our families.
17:41Do you think that any of the other girls like have your back?
17:46I mean, like what's going on with Macy?
17:48I mean, I don't know.
17:49I don't know.
17:50And Mikayla and Layla.
17:52Layla kind of just goes with the wind, huh?
17:54She's just young.
17:56Yeah, and Miranda really doesn't say much.
17:59I'm surprised Miranda hasn't like stuck up for you more.
18:02Because she doesn't have a backbone.
18:04Yeah, that's sad.
18:05So they're all going on their trip, and then...
18:09Yeah, I don't want to be around any of it.
18:11Like my mental health, I think it's better to stay here, keep going to therapy, be with my kids.
18:17Like I'd rather do that.
18:18I'm tired of everybody.
18:20Damn it.
18:22If anything, you've been a great friend to all of them.
18:25I can relate.
18:26And I don't know how they can't see that.
18:28You created Mom Talk.
18:30I don't care what anybody says, whatever, like you are the person that started it.
18:35You're the one that welcomed all these girls in.
18:37I know it's nice of you, but it like pisses them off.
18:40They're going to resent me if they keep hearing that.
18:42I love Mom Talk.
18:44But right now I do feel like I don't know who I trust.
18:47I don't know what is said behind my back.
18:49I don't know where I stand with them.
18:51I just have felt alone.
18:53If we learned anything, just trust your gut, okay?
18:57Mine was literally the same.
18:59Leave your relationship.
19:01Something is not right.
19:03Every single day I knew specifically where it was wrong, and I was like, didn't listen.
19:11But I mean you did have your mom, your dad, your sister, your friends all saying,
19:16something's off, something's off.
19:18Why are you with Dakota and asking you?
19:21No, because Mom and Dad ended up really liking him.
19:23They're like, you should work things out, like don't give up easily.
19:26That's after ever though.
19:28I like Dakota. I'm not saying anything bad.
19:31Yeah, I mean I like Dakota too, but do I like you guys together?
19:35No, you don't.
19:37Yeah, it's really sad.
19:39Do you pray?
19:40Mm-hmm.
19:41All the time?
19:42Lately, I've been like, please help me through this because this is really hard.
19:46I think that that's just how life is, because you're going to keep going down the same cycle
19:51until you say, I'm going to change.
19:53I need to change something.
19:55You need to change. You need to change it.
19:57Only you can change it.
19:59I can tell you a million trillion times, it's like only Taylor can change it.
20:05I'm seriously so tired.
20:15I'm going to go to bed.
20:17To the living room we shall go.
20:19Hello.
20:20This is the hair salon.
20:21Hello.
20:22Welcome to Chase.
20:23Welcome, welcome.
20:24Cute.
20:25This is such a cute situation.
20:26Act like we're friends, everybody.
20:27Family photo.
20:28We like each other.
20:29Hey, Miranda.
20:30You want your lymphatic massage?
20:33Tonight was the most humiliating thing in my life, but with all the drama between the girls right now,
20:38there's a lot that we need to talk about.
20:40At least I'm a little bit high right now to make the pain a little bit less excruciating.
20:44Actually, to me, there's been something that I've been wanting to ask you about.
20:48Do you see yourself ever being friends with Taylor again?
20:53I just don't see her being able to take full accountability,
20:58and I don't think that she has the emotional maturity to have a deep, meaningful friendship.
21:08My answer is no.
21:12What's your status with Whitney?
21:14More so just repairing, I think.
21:18We're all kind of confused about Demi's relationship with Whitney.
21:21There's been so many times where Demi came to me being like,
21:24you need to just give up on Whitney, be done with her.
21:27And now I know that they have been getting closer.
21:30It's so frustrating to have the narratives be spun, then look how it continues to happen.
21:35I have to walk on eggshells around you.
21:37Yep.
21:38And Whitney definitely got defensive for Demi.
21:40Okay, should we just have the resolution of the petty IG post and move on from this?
21:46No, truly. That was weird.
21:48Right now with her, I'm appreciating the effort.
21:51Like, I was talking to her the other day about just the whole Taylor situation,
21:54and I think we've been able to talk about it because we feel very similarly.
21:57And it's been nice because I'm like, okay, I kind of felt a little bit alone
22:01in how intense I was feeling about everything.
22:03And she was like, no, I totally see what you're seeing.
22:05Like, Taylor doesn't know how to be a friend.
22:07I've tried to go to Taylor and express things, and it's shit on.
22:10Well, do you feel like you're being chummy with her?
22:12Well, do you feel like you're being chummy with her?
22:14Because she's going against Taylor and it's almost like an ally in that situation.
22:17I'm not commiserating over something just because it's Taylor.
22:20It's like we both feel this mutually this way because I think that we all should to a degree.
22:25I'm extremely frustrated to have to even have this conversation right now.
22:29Taylor is the problem.
22:30How can you not see that?
22:31How do you feel?
22:32I feel like a lot of people are intimidated by her.
22:34Do you guys ever think about where Taylor would be and what she'd be like
22:37right now if she had never met Dakota?
22:39I think she thinks about it.
22:40for my Dakota.
22:41I think she thinks about it all the time.
22:43I can't imagine.
22:44That's probably why like she feels so erratic all the time.
22:46I hope that like both of them-
22:47Hasn't she always been that way though?
22:50Well.
22:50And like toxic.
22:52I feel like she has the tendency more often
22:55ever since the whole swinging thing.
22:56Like I feel like Taylor was a lot more mellow for sure.
22:59Well, I can't imagine if she would have not dated him,
23:01didn't date anyone for a year and just healed
23:04from the swinging stuff, the divorce.
23:06I feel like it would be a completely different situation.
23:09I think that she chases chaos.
23:15I feel like Demi is playing a game
23:16of who can stab the knife in deeper and twist it harder.
23:20I just feel like she's losing perspective
23:23of what really matters with mom talk.
23:25Well, I think I'm gonna go to bed.
23:26Wait, I need to put my water.
23:27Love you guys.
23:28Okay, good night.
23:29Thanks for my massage.
23:34You are kidding me.
23:35No, my heart's in my ass.
23:39What's on the menu?
23:41What a wild night.
23:42Surprise, there you are.
23:45She just had phone sex and now she's ready for breakfast.
23:48I'm starving.
23:49I have a surprise.
23:52Oh no, what is it?
23:53We're gonna play a little game for breakfast.
23:55Oh no.
23:56Ooh.
23:57Ooh.
23:58Ooh.
23:59Ooh.
24:00Ooh.
24:00Ooh.
24:01Ooh.
24:02Ooh.
24:03Ooh.
24:04Ooh.
24:05Ooh.
24:05Ooh.
24:06Ooh.
24:07Ooh.
24:08Ooh.
24:10That is pregnancy test.
24:11We're gonna play pregnancy roulette.
24:13Shut up.
24:14Shut up.
24:16You're in my way.
24:17Go drink some water.
24:18This makes me think that someone's pregnant.
24:21I instantly have anxiety because I was not planning
24:25on telling the girls yet, or at least in this way.
24:28I have a whole plan on what I wanna do
24:29to tell the girls I'm pregnant,
24:30but this is definitely not it.
24:32Just for fun.
24:34Is someone pregnant?
24:35We don't know.
24:36You're lying.
24:36No, I love this game on TikTok.
24:37The reason why we're doing this
24:38is because I'm late on my period.
24:40No.
24:41So we're gonna do this.
24:42This is a cruel prank,
24:43because what if someone isn't and then it's not me?
24:46This isn't traumatic at all.
24:47I don't cry every single time I take a test
24:50and get a negative.
24:51Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant
24:53for about four years now.
24:54And so I feel like I'm gonna throw up.
24:57It's like evoking all of these emotions in me
24:59and triggering me to my core.
25:01My least favorite thing to do is take a pregnancy test.
25:05I'm gonna get a bowl.
25:06Everyone's gonna go take their test.
25:09And then you're gonna put it in the bowl
25:10and we're gonna all pick it out and see.
25:11And it's gonna be funny.
25:13All right, I'll take one that's ready.
25:15You're pregnant one month postpartum.
25:19I better not be, that's for sure.
25:21Irish twins.
25:23I mean, there's gotta be a positive.
25:25One of us is bound to be pregnant
25:27in this group at all times.
25:29It's not me.
25:31It's definitely not me.
25:33It better not be me.
25:36Wait, this is nerve wracking.
25:38I'm a little anxious now.
25:39Everyone's like, are we pregnant?
25:41Okay, here we go.
25:42You ready?
25:43I'm nervous.
25:44That one's safe.
25:45Wait.
25:47No, that's negative.
25:48Oh, negative.
25:50Okay, down there.
25:51This is like, I'm gonna get the dented on negative.
25:53What?
25:54You're right.
25:55Oh, I literally peed and I brought it up.
25:58Yeah, I was like, oh shit, I'm pregnant.
25:59I'm so nervous.
26:00I'm like.
26:01No.
26:02You're kidding.
26:03I literally got one.
26:04Oh my god.
26:09I knew it.
26:14I'm like, what?
26:15No, stop looking at me.
26:16I don't know.
26:18I didn't look.
26:19Wait, hold it up, I want a picture.
26:20I'm screaming.
26:24Who's fucking pregnant?
26:25I'm gonna cry.
26:26Who is it?
26:27Holy shit.
26:28That is a dark ass frickin' line.
26:30Whoever hears pregnant is like pregnant, pregnant.
26:33I'm feeling Miranda's very soft.
26:35I am too.
26:35Oh my gosh, look at this.
26:36She's laughing and putting her face down.
26:38She's done confrontational.
26:40Everyone's shocked.
26:41I mean, I'm not shocked.
26:42I'm like, oh my gosh, what?
26:43It's a positive?
26:44But like, it's because I genuinely feel so panicked.
26:47Everyone's shocked.
26:48That's like really hard.
26:49That's wrong.
26:49This is criminal.
26:51Now we don't know who.
26:52Wait, I'm sick.
26:53I'm the winner.
26:54Oh my god, this is criminal.
26:56Wait, I have to get ready.
26:57I'm nervous.
26:58Negative.
26:59Oh.
27:00Holy shit.
27:01Oh my god.
27:02That's racist.
27:03You're going to say negative on the track.
27:04How negative do you want it?
27:06It's insane.
27:07Just one of us.
27:07Oh god.
27:08Who is it?
27:09Wait.
27:10Oh no, there's four of you.
27:13I genuinely am so panicked.
27:15No!
27:16You're kidding.
27:17No.
27:17Shut up.
27:18You're lying.
27:19You're lying.
27:19You're lying.
27:20You're lying.
27:21Ah!
27:24No!
27:25There's a trap.
27:27You're lying.
27:29Wait.
27:30It's your turn.
27:31Wait, I'm going to start crying.
27:33Guys!
27:34I think it's actually really sad for her if it's not.
27:37I know.
27:38Oh.
27:39Oh.
27:41Oh my god.
27:43We don't believe it.
27:44Who's going to, who's going to, who's going to save me now?
27:47Oh.
27:48Oh.
28:11Oh.
28:12I'm sorry, is this triggering?
28:13Is this really, is this really triggering for you?
28:15I can't even explain how deeply sad I'm feeling in this moment initial reaction
28:33is like holy shit I'm pregnant and then I'm like wait no there's no way this is
28:37that you're pregnant like there's no way all you get is negative test two people
28:42are pregnant I guess so if someone actually knows they're pregnant or two
29:00people like this isn't fair to her like we have to yeah yeah there's not that's
29:06not okay I genuinely don't know what to do I feel horrible for her but also like
29:11this was not how I was picturing telling everyone I was pregnant because now it
29:15almost feels like a bad thing to be pregnant in this situation because some
29:19of the other girls were like if it's you who's pregnant just say something I was
29:22like well now I don't want to say anything now I almost feel ashamed that
29:25I'm pregnant just feels like such an awkward weird situation and this is the
29:30exact opposite of how I wanted everything to go
29:41well let's get ready I guess
29:58I want to cry no don't cry you can't control that what happened I know it's
30:05hard to know I feel like you can't be excited I know I know this is not how I
30:15saw myself announcing my pregnancy to all the girls but it's true I'm
30:19pregnant you know I love the tea give me the teeth another member added to mom
30:39talk no one else is claiming the second pregnancy test so I'm like why I'm
30:43definitely not gonna speak up especially now that Demi's like sobbing and
30:46everyone's consoling her this is also my moment that I don't want to be taken
30:49away from me and I also want to be sensitive to how you're feeling I feel
30:53like this whole situation is just so awkward it was a weird situation though
30:57I was like what can you do being like it's me like your name is awkward it's
31:00like shameful big it's me even though Demi and I are going through some issues
31:24right now it's devastating to see her react this way she's opened up to me
31:28about her fertility journey and I've seen so much of that emotion and heart
31:31rate so seeing this reaction is so hard to witness and I really hope that she's
31:36okay I try so hard to consider everyone's feelings and like I feel like
31:40people are so flippant about like things that like bother me and I'm just sitting
31:45there like as someone who cares so much about people I'm just like Frank does
31:49anyone care about me like that wasn't a trick anyone was playing on you but I
31:54really terrible timing eyes are now puffy sorry that ruined the mood do you
32:08want something make you happier sure think about it
32:13who's pregnant I don't know sit to me it's me no it isn't it's me are you
32:23no I'm not you've been doing IVF the whole time and you didn't tell me how
32:32long are you I'm two weeks behind you I think how did I not know like we've had
32:48shared a room so many times and she's been like injecting herself she has
32:53like all these shot patches on her arm or something and I just never picked up
32:57on it and then she tells me how far along she is and she's literally two
33:02weeks behind me so I'm just so happy that we can go through it together
33:05my gosh we know nobody really did so wrong well congrats congrats what is it
33:25you do I knew it okay let's redo because I feel bad that was my no no one blames
33:32you and that was awful for you yeah so many things are going through my head I
33:37was like oh my gosh it could I be yeah that's why I'm gonna take another one I
33:43was like oh shit this is so exciting for both of them and how fun that these two
33:46best friends get to be pregnant together that's like the ultimate dream and as
33:51I'm like feeling excitement I'm also feeling so stupid and so bad that I made
33:55that moment about myself meanwhile I'm like devastated is this ever gonna
34:00happen for me I was like I think it's me like oh my god hey it's going to be
34:05you that way okay well you have to be ready in like 30 minutes
34:19I know you eating a cracker since I've talked to my family I've been thinking a
34:25lot and I know I need to give Dakota an answer on this ultimatum the decision is
34:29so hard because yes I love him but there is also the side of like he does
34:34trigger me I'm so tired he pulls aside out of me that I don't necessarily like
34:44like of myself and I feel like the last few years have been the hardest my
34:49self-worth went down and I feel like that's where I'm still like stuck so
34:56even though I've been fighting to keep our family together because that is what
34:59the church teaches if I've learned anything throughout all of this it's to
35:03put my children first and so I know I need to end things with Dakota for good
35:09and completely let him go I do feel peace with that decision I do not see me
35:17ever getting back with Dakota
35:30I feed already hurt standing here whoa watch out for the rock don't give me a
35:40theme this is our first test if we can walk you guys today we have a day of
35:45sightseeing I'm so excited because New Orleans has always been on my bucket
35:49list I've heard this place is just magical and has so much to offer so I'm
35:52so excited to explore
36:01it's like today something's like that I'm aware I love oh look there's cafe
36:15oh my god
36:28this is my main food group
36:32that's insane that's what an orgasm feels like
36:42look at the little market this is cute I know they actually have some really
36:49cute jewelry I was looking at some of them for tomorrow night I was like it
36:52was some of the black pieces I've been waiting for the perfect opportunity on
36:56this trip to pull to me aside and talk to her about what she said about my
36:59salon and my business I think this is the perfect opportunity I've just been
37:03dreading this conversation because I'm really hurt by it I don't understand why
37:07my best friend would say this about me and something I'm so passionate about
37:11and it makes me wonder if I really know the real to me no but I thought we
37:16should talk a little bit I guess my question for you is what actually
37:19happened on the phone call cuz Taylor told me a version but I want to hear
37:22your side too obviously yeah so like the way that she was making it sound was
37:27like Jesse's terrible at color yeah do not go to Jesse like they're awful which
37:32I never said that how do you feel about it and like where well she was you know
37:36telling you she was gonna come to me and your immediate thing was like wait hold
37:40on don't go there so for me that's hurtful to hear cuz it's like she was
37:44telling you she was gonna come to me and like your immediate thing wasn't to just
37:47be like oh you're right like she has a full salon that's well known over the
37:50country like it's not like I just opened a one-chair salon I'm doing my best like
37:54I just it almost like you were taking business away from me and so it just was
37:58like oh to hear that especially after everything I've done for the girls in
38:02this group free hairstyles free hair every time you need I curl all of your
38:05fucking hair every time we go anywhere like I just feel like I get so taken
38:09advantage of like it just sucks that I do everything for everyone and like
38:12then to just have my business like sucks I'm bent over backwards to try to make
38:17everyone in this group feel good and I never get that respect back I feel like
38:20I never get anything back and I hope you know that my intention and even with
38:25what I said was not shitting on your business it was like it feels that way
38:30for sure I hear where you're coming from and I understand but I want you to know
38:33that the way that it was spun and twisted like her saying that if you go
38:36to Jay Z plan to cry or whatever if you don't want to cry don't go to Jay Z yeah
38:40that was never said and it wasn't said in that way in this moment I am feeling
38:45betrayed and kind of deflated hearing her explanations makes me feel worse to
38:51be honest because I don't think she means her apology she's blaming it on
38:54other people so it has opened my eyes to a lot of things and it does make me
38:58wonder if Demi is the cancer in this group I think I'm gonna put a wall up
39:03and keep a little distance from her moving forward mixing friends and
39:06business is really hard
39:15I just want peace
39:17Peace
39:21So my heart can set you free
39:25I just want peace
39:27Hello!
39:29Hi! I had to pump my milkers
39:31Oh your milkers!
39:33Oh we didn't show you guys the poem we had written about mom talk
39:35Any poem, any topic
39:37Pick a topic and I'll tell you how to poem
39:39Friendship, friendship
39:41At a crossroad
39:43Friendship collides
39:45Walking through time
39:47Ringing our sacred bells
39:49We found each other when the timing was right
39:51This is our journey, this is our flight
39:53Sounds like a witching spell
39:55I know
39:57Does it not remind you of young women?
39:59We are daughters of our Heavenly Father
40:01Who loves us and we love Him
40:03We stand with witnesses of God
40:05At all times and all places
40:07As we strive to live in
40:09We are the bellies within our feet
40:11Divine nature, individual brother
40:13Knowledge, choice and accountability
40:15Good works and integrity
40:17Wow
40:19In the Mormon church
40:21Once a woman turns 13
40:23We have this thing called Young Women's that you go to
40:25Young Women's basically is learning about the church
40:27They also do activities so that you can bond with other girls
40:29And bring them together and form a community
40:31It's so weird to hear it like that though
40:33Cause like having it in a chant like that
40:35I'm like we are cool
40:37Have you ever been to the temple?
40:39Of course I have
40:41Oh I forgot you're first married
40:43Yes
40:45In Latter Day Saint religion
40:47The temple is very sacred and holy
40:49And you need to live a certain way
40:51And you go through an interview process
40:53Through your bishop
40:55To be worthy to enter the temple
40:57Okay here's the thing
40:59I don't believe
41:01But if I did this freaks me out
41:03Do you believe the afterlife of it?
41:05Yeah in a sense
41:07Like some of it for sure
41:09I mean it's core Christian values
41:11I feel very much like resonate with the core Christian values
41:13But like they weren't uniquely Mormon
41:15Yes exactly that's how I feel
41:17So you don't believe that the Book of Mormon is true
41:19Yeah I feel like how do we really know
41:21Like
41:23There were no phones back then
41:25There's no proof
41:27But what I was going to say is I don't really believe
41:29But this freaks me out is when I was trying to get my sealing cancelled
41:31My bishop was like yeah well if you
41:33Can't get it cancelled technically like your son
41:35Is sealed to your ex because it's his DNA
41:37And you're sealed to him and I was like ew
41:39But that doesn't change he's always sealed to him
41:41Even if you break it
41:43Within the church if you don't get your sealing
41:45Broken your sealing is your marriage
41:47Then you're still married in the eyes of the church
41:49And they believe that after you pass on
41:51You're sealed forever so
41:53Technically I'm still sealed to my ex husband
41:55Which means we would be together in the afterlife
41:57And I wouldn't be with my current husband
41:59Part of the reason it was really hard for my family
42:01When Chase first left the church was because
42:03Chase had like removed his records
42:05Which means that I'm no longer sealed to my children
42:07Because essentially you need a man
42:09In order to be in the higher serenity
42:11And can't they have like multiple eternal families
42:13Yeah why
42:15Have you been through the temple arrangement
42:17Yeah has everyone
42:19Wait you have you have I have
42:21You have you have
42:23Have not have not
42:25One day
42:27If I marry Cam I probably will for him
42:29For him
42:31Uh oh
42:33I don't like that
42:35How's that bad
42:37I think that to me is definitely very harsh
42:39And I so over it
42:41Going through the temple is something that's very important to Cam
42:43It's something that he's always wanted for himself
42:45For his future for his future wife for his future family
42:47So it's something that's important
42:49To me because it's important to him
42:51So I wasn't saying that I'm just doing this
42:53For Cam I feel like I'm doing it for us
42:55No like I kind of want to like sit in my bed
42:57And bench out my phone for a sec
42:59Are we changing for dinner
43:01What are we wearing
43:03Are we just like casual
43:27Fun
43:29Hello
43:31Hello
43:33Thank you
43:35Ooh
43:37Cute
43:39We're going to the vampire apothecary
43:41For dinner and I feel like this is the perfect
43:43Send off from New Orleans because it's very
43:45Vibey it's a part of the culture
43:47I don't feel like the Mormon church really likes
43:49Stuff like this drinking blood
43:51I'm not sure if that's against the word of wisdom
43:53But if I had to guess it would be a no
43:55But hey we're in NOLA so we might as well
43:57Live it up
43:59Well on my question for you
44:01Since you're kind of like up and down with some of the people in the group
44:03Are you going to invite everyone to your Christmas party then
44:05Like is it a mom talk event or no
44:07I'm throwing a little Christmas soiree
44:09For mom talk and I'm really excited
44:11I've put a lot of thought and
44:13Intention into the night
44:15I am just hoping that it's positive
44:17And that we're able to end the year on a high note
44:19By having the people there
44:21That I feel like genuinely deserve to be there
44:23Brett and I are hosting that
44:25And he is like not
44:27He's equally as unhappy with Taylor as I am
44:29And to me it's like just
44:31Hit the road
44:33Oh
44:35Hello
44:37So I want to get you all started
44:39With our virgin blood bags right here
44:41Also made with real virgin blood
44:43What is it
44:45Real virgin blood
44:47Thank you
44:49Thank you
44:51Looks just like my enema
44:53But speaking
44:55Of Taylor I'm curious to hear
44:57Your thoughts on like if everyone feels
44:59Like Taylor
45:01Deserves to be here and she puts in
45:03The effort and the work and she's a good representation
45:05Of what mom talk
45:07Originally was meant to be
45:09Like where's everyone's head at with that
45:11Ugh
45:13Taylor being a part
45:15Of mom talk it's affecting us on a negative
45:17Level and I'm not
45:19Willing to have someone in the group
45:21That's willing to jeopardize the
45:23Health of my business
45:25And tonight
45:27I really want people to be like we understand
45:29Where you're coming from like yeah we don't have
45:31Any need for her to even stick around
45:33That's hard cause I feel like
45:35There's times
45:37When things ebb and flow with everyone
45:39But also health issues really put things
45:41Into perspective so I just feel like
45:43If she did apologize and she's making changes
45:45I have to like okay what am I gonna do
45:47I'm gonna grudge forever
45:49You take it how you will but as your friend
45:51That wasn't an apology and that was not humility
45:53Coming in there and being like I genuinely
45:55Want to change
45:57At that saints and sitter parties what she
45:59Should have done is literally come in
46:01And say I fucked up
46:03She sat there and threw
46:05Me under the bus and then you're gonna
46:07Remain the leader of mom talk like for what
46:09Because she's the one who started it
46:11But to see what she's capable
46:13Of doing online to her friends
46:15And to people who have only loved and supported
46:17And been there for her is very
46:19Problematic and like it hurts
46:21The group as a whole
46:23For me right now
46:25I'm just kind of at a loss cause I do really
46:27Want to give her the benefit of the doubt
46:29But I'm still coming from a place
46:31Of hurt that I'm trying to
46:33Heal so I think I'm just hypersensitive
46:35To things that happen now
46:37Like with her CMA post
46:39At least we have this situation now to give context
46:41If she does it again
46:43After her apology at saints and sinners moving forward
46:45If anything else happens after that
46:47Apology then I'm like okay and again
46:49We have behavior to point to now that's like concrete
46:51That hurt all of us
46:53How many chances like that do you give to someone before you go
46:55You're literally a psychotic child
46:57It's toxic as hell
46:59And for me as of now
47:01I'm kind of like if Taylor's in
47:03I'm out
47:05Are you serious?
47:07I'm not gonna be a part of mom talk anymore
47:09We all have different
47:11Relationships with her and I think it's not fair
47:13To kick her out
47:15I also don't think it's fair for you just to leave if she's in
47:17But mom talk we all move forward together
47:19In our friend group
47:21You know what I mean
47:23Would that be fair for me to do though with the Whitney situation
47:25If I was like well if Whitney's in
47:27I'm out
47:29But Whitney's life doesn't take over the group
47:31Taylor is so so self centered
47:33And so selfish
47:35And to me it's like we've had Whitney here this weekend
47:37It's been great
47:39For you though if Taylor was here
47:41It wouldn't have been bad for me but it would have been bad for you
47:43Well the level of the offense matters
47:45And to me I think that Taylor's
47:47More of a liability in this situation
47:49Given the fact that she is the face
47:51Do I think that Taylor has narcissistic
47:53Tendencies? A thousand percent
47:55But I'm still on thin ice
47:57With a lot of the women
47:59So yeah I'm going to zip my lips
48:01But I do agree with Demi
48:03And it's not that I need the spotlight
48:05Is this a group of women empowering each other
48:07And taking the turns on the spotlight
48:09Or is this the Taylor show?
48:11I don't know I haven't felt that way
48:13It affects us when we go do events
48:15And
48:17Who gets the opportunities
48:19And who gets interviews and stuff like that
48:21And for me I'm like
48:23Why are we putting this person on a pedestal
48:25Why are we giving this person opportunities
48:27Some opportunities we have
48:29Are sometimes cause of her
48:31You know
48:33I don't know much about her now
48:35To continue riding the cloud
48:37Like if this is part friendship
48:39Part business
48:41Like if this were a normal business
48:43She'd be gone with the things that she's doing
48:45Mom talk is way more than just business and work
48:47This is definitely a side of Demi that I have not seen yet
48:49And I don't know if I'm liking it
48:51At this point I don't know what she's willing to do
48:53To get to the top
48:55So that's very concerning for me
48:57Well think about the situation with you and Jessie
48:59You weren't supporting her business
49:01How is it different
49:03We're all a part of the same business
49:05I'm not part of Jessie's business
49:07I know but you're her best friend
49:09I wasn't her best friend at the time
49:11I am so frustrated right now
49:13It's like are we going to do what's right
49:15Girls what is mom talk
49:17If it's not on standing on business
49:19Standing on what's right
49:21And creating an environment that's healthy
49:23And conducive to success
49:25I'm so so disappointed in everyone
49:27I feel like I'm on an island right now
49:29This is the last thing I'll say
49:31Thank God
49:33You guys do what you will with it
49:35But she genuinely tarnishes
49:37What mom talk was meant to be
49:39I think Demi wants to kick Taylor out of mom talk
49:41Because Taylor is a threat to her
49:43And it's the easiest solution to that problem
49:45I don't know what's going on here
49:47But I don't want to have to choose a side
49:49I loved me and I think she's great
49:51But how many friendships do you know
49:53Where you have to be voted out or in
49:55Manipulating the situation to be like
49:57What's here isn't fair to the rest of us
49:59I think that Demi
50:01Secretly wants to be the leader of mom talk
50:03But Taylor did start mom talk
50:05We're all here because of her
50:07I don't know what's going to happen
50:15Demi said that like if you're in mom talk
50:17Then like she would like leave mom talk
50:19What the hell is Leanne doing here
50:21Let's get Taylor out of the picture
50:23Because now I want to be Taylor
50:25She needs to go to therapy
50:27And she needs to go be a fucking mom
50:29I've done absolutely nothing to you
50:31What?
50:33What have I done other than react to your poor behavior
50:35Just a selfish bitch
50:37I'm honestly kind of worried
50:39I don't feel like mom talk right now is standing for anything
50:41That we originally stood for
50:43I feel like Demi lied to me
50:45And I don't want to say too much
50:47But more happened than what she's leading
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