At today's House Homeland Security Committee hearing, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's (R-GA) attempt to put into the record that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was in MS-13 led to an objection from Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY).
00:05Mr. Chairman, I ask you now, Ms. Kinsent, to enter for the record, one of our colleagues
00:11had asked if there was evidence if the so-called Maryland man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, was MS-13.
00:18According to the Attorney General of the United States, she posted that the evidence shows
00:24Kilmar Abrego Garcia has repeatedly been identified as a member of MS-13 by a Maryland
00:29County Police Gang Unit, which I introduced for the record, a reliable confidential informant,
00:35ICE officers, an immigration judge agreed, and an appellate board agreed.
00:41Without...
00:42So you have...
00:42Sorry, is that a court order?
00:44Well, I object.
00:45No, she can put anything she wants in the record.
00:48She's not complying to your request, Mr. Goldman.
00:51She asked for unanimous consent.
00:54Okay, so you're objecting to her putting that into the record?
00:56I am objecting, subject to a clarification.
01:00Is that a court order that establishes that he's a member of MS-13?
01:04An immigration judge agreed that he was MS-13.
01:09For bail...
01:09An appellate board agreed.
01:11Don't misrepresent.
01:12Hold on, we're not...
01:13A judge.
01:15Everybody pause.
01:16We're going to let one person talk at a time.
01:19You ask a question.
01:20Answer the question, please.
01:21According to the Attorney General of the United States, she informed the country that an immigration
01:29judge agreed that your Maryland man, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, is MS-13.
01:34An appellate board agreed.
01:36ICE officers agreed.
01:37You are misstating what the ICE...
01:39A reliable informant...
01:39Mr. Goldman, the clock is not yours right now.
01:43She has the floor.
01:45Please continue answering the question.
01:47Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
01:49A Maryland County...
01:50She's not answering the question, sir.
01:52No, she's going to answer the question, and then you can object to her answer.
01:56Can you make sure that she answers the question?
01:58Finish answer...
01:58You just said, please, finish your answer.
02:01A Maryland County Police Gang Unit agreed that he's MS-13.
02:05A reliable confidential informant agreed that he's MS-13.
02:10ICE officers agreed that he's MS-13.
02:15An immigration judge agreed that he's MS-13.
02:18An appellate board agreed that Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, your Maryland man, is MS-13.
02:27Okay.
02:28I have the floor.
02:29What do you want to say?
02:30I object because she is misstating the record and the facts.
02:34That is not accurate, and therefore I object to that being introduced.
02:39There is no...
02:39Mr. Chairman...
02:39Mr. Chairman, can I explain?
02:40You let her go on.
02:42She...
02:42Go ahead.
02:43There is no final court order establishing that he's a member.
02:49Maybe he is.
02:50So you should put all that evidence before a judge, and if he is MS-13, he should be deported.
02:55That's what we're talking about.
02:57But you're misstating what all of that evidence is.
03:01No, I think I'm going to make a point here.
03:03You basically just read what the Attorney General said, correct?
03:06Yes, sir.
03:06You didn't assert that this was a court order, did you?
03:09Did you assert that this was a court order?
03:10I read the Attorney General of the United States...
03:13And you have a right on our committee to submit for unanimous consent, or a vote, if we want to put it to a vote.
03:20So, uh, this for the record, correct?
03:23Is that...
03:23Yes.
03:24That is correct.
03:25Okay, Mr. Chairman, can I review?
03:27Can I review what she is submitting?
03:29No, she can submit something to this committee.
03:31But it matters that she...
03:32She just said she represented exactly what the Attorney General said.
03:36She has a document there.
03:37I would like to see that document.
03:39Let's make a copy for everybody, and we'll vote on...
03:42I'm going to...
03:42Hold on.
03:43Hold on just a second.
03:44We're going to hold...
03:45You're calling for the question?
03:49We're calling for the question.
03:51The clerk, we're going to need to set...
03:53Hold on just a second.
03:54Brief reset.
03:59Please, let's get this on this door, correct?
04:01Yeah, I know.
04:02This is great.
04:03We voted for...
04:07All right, there's...
04:08Hold on.
04:09I have the floor.
04:11All right, so we have a motion to vote on the submission of this
04:18for the record.
04:20That's all that has been stated, and so I...
04:23I have a parliamentary inquiry, sir.
04:24Do not interrupt me again.
04:28We are on the vote on whether or not this can be entered into the record.
04:34A motion has been made, and we will vote on that motion.
04:38All of those...
04:39I have a parliamentary inquiry before we vote, sir.
04:41Mr. Ranking Member.
04:44Mr. It's our request that we object, and in the middle of the objection, you consider
04:54a motion, which...
04:56He was done talking about...
04:58No, he wasn't.
04:59No, he wasn't.
04:59You stopped him from talking.
05:01I just have a parliamentary inquiry.
05:03A parliamentary inquiry.
05:06Okay, go ahead.
05:07You have the floor.
05:08Is it the procedure of this committee that someone who is making an objection to the
05:15admission of evidence cannot review that evidence before we vote on it?
05:22The content is irrelevant to the motion, and the motion has been made to vote on the submission
05:30for the record.
05:32The content is irrelevant?
05:33I mean, that's what I'm objecting to.
05:37If she is accurate in what her representation is, I will withdraw my objection.
05:41I just need to see the document.
05:42Somebody walk the thing over there and let him read it.
05:45I mean, get to the bottom of this quickly.
05:48We'll hold on your vote, Mr. Ogles.
05:51Mr. Chairman, given that this is a tweet, Mr. Ogles.
06:21from the Attorney General that is effectively, I believe, consistent with what Ms. Taylor-Green
06:28says, I withdraw my objection.
06:29The gentleman with Jarles' objection, I now recognize, who's up?
06:35Mr. Jimenez for his five minutes of questioning.
06:38Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Madam Secretary, for the fine work that you've done.
06:43I also want to thank you for approving members on this side of the aisle, myself included.
06:48I also want to thank you for approving members on this side of the aisle, myself included, and thank you for approving members on this side of the aisle.
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