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Breaking through tariffs and trends
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7 months ago
What’s driving China’s trade resilience? We break down the latest numbers with Shan Saeed, Global Chief Economist at Juwai IQI.
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Now we're here to unpack China's trade statistics for April.
00:03
We have Shan Seyed, Global Chief Economist at UAIQI.
00:07
Now, Shan, despite U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods,
00:11
China's exports grew by 8.1% in April, far exceeding expectations.
00:16
So what factors do you think help Chinese exporters maintain this resilience
00:20
and can it actually be sustained in the long term?
00:24
Shan?
00:25
I think Chinese have shown remarkable resilience
00:28
in diversifying very quickly
00:30
and they are moving most of the trade and commerce
00:33
to Southeast Asia, Europe, Africa, and GCC.
00:37
And if you look at these combined regions,
00:41
ASEAN, GCC, Africa,
00:43
so they combine together around 2.5 billion population along with Europe.
00:51
So that contributes significantly to the overall export outlook
00:56
and that clearly demonstrates that the Chinese are pretty smart
01:01
and they have already planned how to move away from these tariffs
01:07
and they have navigated it quite significantly.
01:12
Moving forward, I think it is sustainable
01:15
because China has a close relationship with ASEAN,
01:20
they have a close relationship with Africa, GCC, and Europe.
01:23
And in all these countries, they have a few things in common.
01:29
They have rising economies, they have macroeconomic stability,
01:36
they have growing infrastructure,
01:39
and above all, they have the desire to have strong relationship with China in the long run.
01:48
So I think all these economies, the regions,
01:52
they want to continue their trade relationship in the long run.
01:56
Right.
01:57
Looking at this region, Shan,
01:59
while China's exports to the U.S. dropped by 21%,
02:03
export to ASEAN actually surged by 20.8%.
02:07
Does this actually signal a clear shift in China's trade strategy towards this region?
02:12
And within ASEAN, you feel which countries do you see becoming even more important
02:16
for China's growth and why?
02:19
Absolutely.
02:20
The largest increase in outbound shipment went to Indonesia, Thailand, and Vietnam.
02:27
And if you look at these regions, I was in Indonesia last week,
02:30
and I can tell you what's happening in Indonesia.
02:33
Indonesia right now is booming.
02:34
So Indonesia, 278 million, Vietnam, 100 million population, Thailand, 72 million population.
02:42
So China wants to deal with those countries where demographics are big,
02:47
where they have leadership, where the young population is strong,
02:52
and above all, they have the infrastructure and macroeconomic stability.
02:57
So China is quite bullish.
02:58
And the recent visit of President Xi Jinping to Malaysia, to Vietnam, and Cambodia
03:05
is a clear signal that Chinese have clearly pivoted towards ASEAN,
03:11
which is the growth region with 620 million population,
03:16
GDP size touching almost $4 trillion by the end of this year.
03:20
So China has made it very clear that they want to move into this region
03:26
where income levels are rising.
03:28
The leadership of various governments are committed to having long-term relationships.
03:34
And above all, the macroeconomic stability is one of the key factors
03:38
that make China to come to this part of the world.
03:43
Right.
03:44
Shan, your input on Malaysia.
03:46
What role do you think Malaysia can play in helping position ASEAN
03:49
as a major global economic force?
03:53
And how can we make sure this leads to long-term resilience and prosperity for the region?
03:59
I think the recent visit of Chinese President to Malaysia
04:02
has given a lot of leverage to Malaysia.
04:06
And it has clearly given Malaysia a clear advantage in the ASEAN region
04:11
that Malaysia is playing a key role in bringing all the ASEAN countries together,
04:18
leading from the front.
04:19
And this gives a limelight in the last two, three months.
04:24
You have seen all the global newspapers, local newspapers.
04:27
They're all talking about Malaysia.
04:29
Global companies are moving into Malaysia.
04:31
FDI is coming into Malaysia.
04:33
So obviously, Malaysia has got a clear advantage in all this situation.
04:39
And it helps the population at the macro level.
04:44
Right.
04:45
Thank you so much, Shan.
04:46
That was Shan Saeed from Juei IQI.
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