00:00What happened at the Pahal Gham, no civilised, you see, nation, no civilised person can accept that.
00:09I remain steadfast on what Mahatma Gandhi had believed, perhaps till his last breath,
00:18that India and Pakistan are two neighbours. Neighbourhood cannot be changed.
00:24Ultimately, Mahatma Gandhi's advice should work. If it doesn't work today, it must work tomorrow or the day after.
00:32That India and Pakistan are two neighbours. Neighbourhood cannot be changed. They have to live together.
00:40Dialogue and discussion is the best thing. War is no option.
00:44Sir, first of all, your stand on this Pahal Gham.
00:47Yes, it is a tragic situation. What happened at the Pahal Gham, no civilised, you see, nation, no civilised person can accept that.
00:59It's an atrocity and killings. Totally unacceptable.
01:06So, by and large, every citizen in India should adopt the line that the Prime Minister has adopted.
01:13After all, he is the leader of the nation.
01:17Having said that, I would also say that if Pakistan says that it is not involved,
01:27let us accept that argument for a time and we shall ultimately go by our investigating agencies
01:36and they will know better after they go into it minutely and then look at what is what.
01:44We shall hear that situation very soon and in the meantime, I have a feeling that Prime Minister has adopted
01:53a line of action or he has made a statement.
01:59I have no reason to contradict Prime Minister.
02:02So, Indian nation should accept what Prime Minister Modi says on Pahal Gham.
02:09Having said it, I remain steadfast on what Mahatma Gandhi had believed, perhaps till his last breath,
02:22that India and Pakistan are two neighbours.
02:26Neighbourhood cannot be changed.
02:27Whatever you do, ultimately, what will prevail between India and Pakistan is the dialogue, dialogue and discussion.
02:39No military solution, no arms, no sword.
02:45Nothing will work except the word of mouth.
02:48That is dialogue and discussion.
02:50I am very sorry.
02:53It is very unfortunate that tension is brimming up between India and Pakistan on the Pahal Gham carnage.
03:03And I have a feeling that Prime Minister has better represented the nation by expressing his shock over Pahal Gham.
03:15And whatever government of India decides how to react to it is for the nation to follow suit.
03:25But ultimately, Mahatma Gandhi's advice should work.
03:30If it doesn't work today, it must work tomorrow or the day after.
03:34That India and Pakistan are two neighbours.
03:37Neighbourhood cannot be changed.
03:40They have to live together.
03:41India and we wish and pray that they live together as very good neighbours.
03:49India said we stopped the India's treaty water to Pakistan.
03:52How do you see this?
03:54I don't think that India should go that far.
04:01Because it is a treaty.
04:04It has worked well.
04:06Even during the wars.
04:10And it offers advantage both to India and Pakistan.
04:16What will we do with water that is available?
04:19It will submerge Punjab and Jom and Kashmir altogether.
04:24And water should flow down to the sea through its own course.
04:33That is what is happening this time.
04:36I have a feeling we mustn't go that far.
04:40We must have a feeling that we must agree with what Prime Minister Modi says on this proposition.
04:51So, his statement is a direction for all of us to understand the matter like that.
05:01So, the Prime Minister is the guide.
05:06This time he is the leader of the nation.
05:08He has spoken very strongly about Pahalgam.
05:14Pahalgam is a tragic situation and killings and in a partisan manner is not acceptable to India.
05:25India is a democracy.
05:26We have democratic values and we cherish those values.
05:30So, there is no conflict in anybody's mind as Prime Minister Modi has represented the whole nation properly.
05:39You think this time we have to take action against the Pakistan if they are involved in this?
05:45No, as it suits India, they say it will be decided, Prime Minister will decide action with cabinet.
05:55We are a democratic country, there is a cabinet system.
05:58So, he will go to the cabinet.
06:01Whatever India's cabinet decides is the action that Prime Minister will take later.
06:11Or, the cabinet will agree with Prime Minister so far, whatever statement Prime Minister has made in this connection.
06:20He has better knowledge on this subject.
06:23So, I have no doubt that Indians should look to the Prime Minister.
06:28So, he says, whatever he says will be a modus operandi.
06:33He says, students, politicians, and other people we see in cities by protesting this.
06:41How do you see this?
06:42The protests, we are a democratic country and protest is part of democratic reaction to the situation.
06:49So, these protests will go on and for me, the stand taken by the Prime Minister is a guiding factor.
06:59So, Prime Minister has said something about Pahal Gaum.
07:05It's not acceptable, the massacre that took place there.
07:11And Government of India has adopted a policy.
07:15I can't, you see, for Indians like me, that is the final word.
07:20So, I condemn this barbaric action in Pahal Gaum and future course of action will be taken by, you say, Prime Minister.
07:34And Prime Minister is guided by the cabinet.
07:38So, the situation has come up for discussion and dialogue there in the cabinet.
07:43And any time, whatever Prime Minister, Prime Minister is the leader of the nation.
07:48Nobody can go against that.
07:51So, as an Indian, whatever Prime Minister says is the right course.
07:59So, that is democratic action.
08:02And to my mind, it was very bad what happened at Pahal Gaum.
08:06So, as an individual, I condemn that.
08:13But I told a channel that dialogue and discussion is the best thing.
08:23War is no option.
08:25So, therefore, if Pakistan has taken the position, they are not involved.
08:29India must listen and then act according to its own needs, own need.
08:37We are not going to go by any country's statements.
08:42We have to go by what the Prime Minister decides.
08:45He is the leader of the nation.
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