00:00and giving them cushy jobs in Australia.
00:04Yeah, good afternoon, Tom and Emily.
00:06Yeah, that's what we've got left.
00:09Many good, hard-working, retired, experienced police officers
00:14have left the police service a decade ago and every year ever since.
00:20Yeah, the Australian Police Service have rightly seen
00:24it's not just this country, it's many others.
00:26They've actually brought their boss over to talk to UK police officers
00:30to tell them the type of policing that they offer.
00:34And I'm ashamed to say that I've been in policing now in 46 years
00:39and law and order in Britain, 31 as a frontline serving officer.
00:43I've never seen the morale so low in Britain within the police service.
00:48I've never seen senior management so out of touch,
00:51no vision, no passion, lack of leadership.
00:54The morale is so low that last year, for example, in the Met,
01:00their net intake after 12 months was just 84.
01:04And police officers are looking around and they believe
01:07that they are the aunt sallies of society.
01:10Every time anything goes wrong, blame the police.
01:13I remember the police when I joined and hundreds of arrests.
01:18If they had the iPhones out when I was serving,
01:20I'd be on social media probably every single day
01:23with people asking for me to be strung up
01:26when all I was doing was trying to do my job.
01:29So many police officers now in Britain have had enough.
01:32And this is an opportunity for some, and I believe many will apply,
01:36but they have to carry a firearm to look at trying something new
01:40and getting out of a country that so many of us see now is broken
01:44and the police service is broken too.
01:46Yeah, I mean, Norman, I can understand why British police officers
01:50would want to go to Australia.
01:52I mean, Australia haven't just been trying to pinch our police officers.
01:55They've done it with doctors, nurses, probably other jobs as well,
01:59but picking on public sector jobs, really, first and foremost, I would say.
02:05But, Norman, is it really that bad for police officers?
02:08Is it the pay as well that's an issue?
02:12You know, why would it be so much better in Australia besides the weather?
02:14Well, let's put it this way.
02:17As I've just told you, I've seen police change over 46 years.
02:21I'm still an independent campaigner for Britain.
02:24When I was serving, I was the only serving police officer
02:26that spoke to media outlets like you.
02:29And I was warning what it was like within police,
02:32in the criminal justice system, the courts, society,
02:35that we were losing the public, that victims were failed,
02:38and nobody listened.
02:39Every single police officer that joins the police service,
02:41despite what some public think, join because they have an earning,
02:46a passion to add something to life and work as a team to make society safer.
02:51And when you turn up for a job, Emily, and you feel as though it's almost worthless,
02:56you have to pick up dead bodies.
02:58You have to give the worst message that you can actually give.
03:01You want to give to the public, but you're not able to do so.
03:05So many officers now will be looking out to that hand of friendship from Australia
03:10and saying, do you know what, I'm single or I'm young,
03:13and I want a better future for my children.
03:16And they're looking at going.
03:17And I believe that dozens, if not hundreds, will actually take the leap.
03:21And if nothing else, just look at getting up every day,
03:24that serotonin, hitting your bonce, if nothing else, and lovely beaches.
03:28And the comrade over in Australia, I think, is a lot higher at this moment than it is in Britain.
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