PTI, Plagued by Factionalism, How Will It Form an Opposition Alliance?

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00:00These things are not an alarm for us, that what will happen.

00:03These backdoor contacts, whether they will remain in the hands of a party or not,

00:07we had put this in the first reservations and said that this will not happen.

00:12If someone has contacts, then he will decide the order of the alliance.

00:16That alliance has not been formed yet, or even the old alliance,

00:20I think even its order does not know about this matter.

00:22And this is going on, so in this way, it will become difficult for us.

00:29There is another stakeholder of the alliance, Mr. Haqan Abbasi.

00:33He is also not happy with the way things are going.

00:35What is he saying? Listen to this.

00:37In PTI, the issue is that every person speaks differently.

00:41And Imran Khan himself says that he has said this to me.

00:44So there is a lot of contradiction in those things.

00:46That is why when he speaks, it is not permanent.

00:48You cannot make a decision on it with confidence.

00:51If the Chief Minister of KP starts a personal attack on Mr. Mulana,

00:54starts various things, then the atmosphere becomes bad.

00:57So this matter has not been resolved yet.

01:00Okay, so you have seen that in this matter,

01:02there are cases of allegations,

01:04which were also filed by Ali Amin Ghandapur.

01:07And Asad Kaisar, Shehram Tarqai, Atif Khan,

01:10they were also accused.

01:11So these cases are also present in their place.

01:13By the way, what do you make of it?

01:16I mean, the concerns of the JUI,

01:18and where is this boat going?

01:20Look, PTI is now fighting the movements,

01:25they have been divided into different groups.

01:28And sometimes they try to get real freedom from the American Congressmen.

01:34Sometimes they want to get real freedom by fighting the Oxford election.

01:40Sometimes they want to get real freedom by writing letters to the Chief of Army Staff.

01:44And now these people are trying to backdoor diplomacy.

01:48In which they are trying to involve journalists.

01:53So PTI is in utter confusion.

01:55The issue is that they are not taking their allies on board.

01:58Look, I think, we thought that if this Grand Alliance is formed,

02:03then it will not be a bad move, it will be a good move.

02:06Because PTI itself has been doing the politics of dissolution,

02:10and will continue to do so, as per their mood.

02:12So it will be a trump on them,

02:15that when these allies will come,

02:17then maybe some sense will prevail because of them.

02:20Because of JUIF or other parties,

02:23their dissolutionary politics will not be a part of it.

02:27This is what we thought.

02:28But now the dissolution is within PTI.

02:31And there is a fight going on,

02:34and they are fighting each other.

02:36Sometimes one is running, sometimes another.

02:38So now I think this phase of the Grand Alliance has gone a little far.

02:44Mr. Nasir, you are from the Noon League.

02:48Mr. Rana, you are from the People's Party.

02:51So they often call it the beauty of democracy,

02:54that there are differences of the party,

02:56so what if they come forward and talk.

02:58Do you think that this is the right way,

03:00that you are giving a statement like this on the podcast,

03:03then you are giving other statements,

03:05then even if someone is keeping quiet.

03:07So what should be the mechanism in the parties

03:09to co-operate with such things?

03:11If there is an increase in the number of people,

03:13then these issues come out.

03:17Are you talking about PTI?

03:19Yes, I am talking about PTI.

03:21What should be the mechanism?

03:23The issue with PTI is that,

03:25everything revolves around Mr. Khan,

03:30and it is obvious that he is not out yet,

03:33so only a few people are meeting him,

03:36and then he comes forward and says,

03:38we talked about this.

03:40But they say that revolving around a central figure

03:44is the same in your party.

03:46If we talk about the Noon League,

03:48it is the same there as well.

03:52But look, we have some other things as well,

03:54that there are other senior leaders,

03:56no one goes to Shah Mehmood Qureshi,

03:58he also has a position.

04:00Similarly, there are some other people

04:02who are outside or inside,

04:04but then that confusion is arising,

04:06for example, what is being discussed now,

04:08on the statement of Mr. Sawati,

04:10if he wants to talk to the army chief,

04:12then what is the harm in that?

04:14He is the army chief of Pakistan,

04:16he is not talking to the army chief of India.

04:18There should not be any confusion in this.

04:20Secondly, you talked about the unity,

04:22the unity of the opposition,

04:24in which Mr. Maulana is also there,

04:26it is obvious that PTI has an important role,

04:28there will be other people as well.

04:30I am talking about the unity

04:32of the opposition,

04:34there will be other people as well.

04:36I am seeing that the day this protest

04:38will take place,

04:40how will there be slogans being raised,

04:42because Mr. Maulana,

04:44when he talks about the election,

04:46he says that I have been scolded,

04:48in that 90% of the seats are those,

04:50which were won by the people

04:52supported by PTI.

04:54So on one side,

04:56PTI will be raising slogans

04:58against PMLN, PP and others,

05:00and on the other side,

05:02PTI will be raising slogans

05:04against PMLN, PP and others,

05:06and on the other side,

05:08PTI will be raising slogans

05:10against PTI as well.

05:12And that too,

05:14standing with Mr. Gandapur.

05:16These things,

05:18will be very surprising.

05:20Now I will take the answer

05:22from the Senator.

05:24Mr. Waleed,

05:26how does it make you feel,

05:28when you see that the things

05:30are being talked about

05:32in the form of an interview,

05:34and if Bani was outside,

05:36he wouldn't have appreciated that.

05:38Do you think so?

05:42What Mr. Shah said,

05:44that Mr. Imran Khan

05:46has very limited access,

05:48and he is being limited.

05:50In this,

05:52I totally agree with him.

05:54And what is further,

05:56I want to say two things.

05:58Number one,

06:00when the access is limited,

06:02because of that,

06:04all kinds of challenges

06:06are faced.

06:08Now, there was a meeting,

06:10about which no person

06:12said anything.

06:14But in the newspapers,

06:16people are saying,

06:18one newspaper is saying,

06:20that Mr. Khan gave this idea,

06:22and the other two people

06:24who went to meet him,

06:26and this is a well-known newspaper,

06:28the other newspaper is saying,

06:30sources,

06:32it is not taking the name of sources,

06:34that the two representatives

06:36of PTI went to meet him,

06:38and they convinced Mr. Khan,

06:40that we should have this discussion.

06:42Now,

06:44whoever makes a narrative,

06:46whoever leaks out the narrative,

06:48there is no truth in it,

06:50I consider it as a storm in a cup of tea.

06:52Now, in KP,

06:54where PTI is in power,

06:56people are fighting each other,

06:58and there is no equality.

07:00Thank you very much,

07:02Senator Waleed Iqbal,

07:04Nasir Hussain Shah,

07:06Rana Hassan Afzal.

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