00:00Thank you very much, Mr. Gill. Mr. Stone, I would like to ask you specifically, in talking
00:08with you earlier, you mentioned three women that were witnesses that had their testimonies
00:14omitted by the Warren Commission in regards to seeing Oswald in the book depository. Can
00:20you speak to that a little bit, please?
00:22Yes, it's a very interesting piece of information that we put into our documentary, JFK Revisited.
00:31It came out of the ARB. It came out in recent years around that time. Barry Ernst wrote
00:45about it and was interviewed in our film, in which he says that in addition to there
00:50were three women on the fourth floor during the time of the assassination. They witnessed
00:55it from above, and immediately they were headed down to see what was going on at a closer
01:01angle. Two of the women went downstairs quickly. The third woman, Dorothy Garner, who was a
01:08supervisor, an older woman, watched them go down the stairs. They were down. All this
01:14happened within 30 seconds. Oswald, if he was on the sixth floor, which I sincerely
01:21doubt, had to be a track star to store the weapon, to run across the floor and go down
01:32those same stairs and appear, as he did to Marion Baker in the second floor lunchroom.
01:38All of this was highly unlikely. I think that should be addressed. The two of the women
01:44are still alive?
01:46No, Victoria Adams passed away. I think Sandy Stiles is still alive. It's called the Stroud
01:54document, and it has Garner's testimony in it. This was discovered by writer Barry Ernst
02:02in 1999 as a result of the ARB. It turned out that the Texas Attorney General, Stroud,
02:13had talked to Garner, the supervisor, and sent this information to the Warren Commission
02:20in the summer of 1964. But you won't find it in any of the Warren Commission volumes,
02:27even though it's a kind of important piece of evidence, because Garner said that she
02:36never saw Oswald on the stairs, and the two girls went down before the policeman and the
02:41supervisor truly came up. So it's very hard to believe that Oswald was tearing down those
02:46stairs, and this woman never saw him.
02:53Mr. Stone, one of my last questions for you before we wrap up this hearing. Would you
03:03recommend that the task force send a letter requesting NBC make a clear copy of the film?
03:11Certainly that would be very interesting. Mr. Dean, Eugenio and I saw a film of a potential
03:21Oswald watching the motorcade go by, which means that he was downstairs at the time of the
03:27shooting, and that would be very interesting to see. We couldn't say for sure that that was Oswald,
03:33but it's a man who looks like him. So I think it would be a very good idea for the task force to
03:38subpoena NBC, which has the original film. Yes, they supposedly have the original. They have the
03:46original film. They've refused it twice to be shown. Yes. And if this task force could easily
03:53get that, and the American public should have a right to judge for itself who was standing there.
03:59Well, first of all, I would like to thank our witnesses for being here today. There are those
04:04in our country who may ask why this task force seeks to pursue the truth underlying the facts
04:09surrounding the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963, and the answer to that is the
04:14truth, even the truth delayed, and justice, even justice delayed is always worth attaining. And the
04:20men and women who have sought answers regarding the assassination of the American president, of
04:24American President John F. Kennedy for all the world to see, have been obstructed and hampered
04:29by our own government for over 60 years. This hearing is not meant to provide a definitive
04:34explanation of the Kennedy assassination. This hearing demonstrates, however, that the CIA and
04:38other components of the federal government have not been honest with the American people that
04:43they are meant to serve up until recent efforts. And the American people must hold these agencies
04:48accountable, and they can. I've invited Mr. Stone, a filmmaker, to this hearing because he did just
04:53that, motivating Congress in the 1990s to pass a law that began with the, that began the
04:57declassification process. And I'd like to applaud our president for continuing this process as he
05:03promised to do so. Researchers like Mr. Morley and Mr. DiEugenio have provided new information
05:08that helped bring light to some of the darkest days in American history, and I would like to
05:12thank the witnesses again and applaud their work. The search for truth continues, and the task force
05:17will pursue this at any price. I'd also like to note that we are planning on sending a letter to
05:23NBC requesting what you've recommended, Mr. Stone. Before I wrap it up, I would just like to say,
05:29do you guys have any statements in closing for the American people?
05:34I would just like to thank you, Chairwoman Luna, for your aggressive action, action-oriented
05:39approach to this issue. While we diverge politically, it's been a pleasure to work with you,
05:45and your leadership is important on this. Like I said before, I think we are making progress.
05:51Thank you. Mr. Stone or Mr. DiEugenio?
05:54Thank you, Chairwoman. I really admire what you're doing, and I wish you the best of success.
06:03Mr. DiEugenio?
06:05I think one of the things that the committee should do is talk to some of the people who are on the ARB
06:18so you can understand just how difficult it was for them and why they couldn't complete their job.
06:27All right? I certainly, certainly hope that this committee does complete that job, and finally,
06:34you know, 62 years later, we'll know everything the government did know about that.
06:39One thing that the gentleman down here asked about, see, very few people know,
06:45there were three attempts on JFK's life in November, okay?
06:50There was one in Chicago, there was one in Tampa, and then there was the successful one, you know, in Dallas.
06:59The Chicago attempt so much resembles what happened in Dallas,
07:05that if the Secret Service would have given all those records over, okay,
07:09then the Dallas one might have been prevented.
07:14At the one in Tampa, that one, there was just the opposite of Dallas.
07:20You had wall-to-wall Secret Service, FBI, etc.,
07:25and Kennedy was so happy that he got away, that he stayed after at the Floridian Hotel
07:31and insisted on shaking hands with every single officer that was involved in that attempt, all right?
07:39So these are some of the records that are still out there.
07:43Thank you very much, Mr. DiGennio. Mr. Davidson?
07:47I'll just thank you again for the opportunity to testify
07:50and to encourage the task force, again, to take all steps possible.
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