00:00What this, all of this does is provide a completely alternative explanation for the deaths and collapses of those children.
00:08An explanation which in my view should have been exposed at the trial, not now.
00:14So that's really our only interest.
00:17Justice generally both for Lucy but also for the parents of the children who must have a terrible cloud hanging over them.
00:28I had the most authoritative group of people I've ever had in my life communicate with me.
00:35Past presidents of the Royal Statistical Society, past presidents of the Royal College, a whole series of professors, forensic experts, people who knew what they were looking at.
00:46And each of them said to me the same thing or similar things.
00:50They said, my bit of this is wrong.
00:54The bit I understand, I can't, the statistician said I can't speak for the medical evidence but the statistics is rubbish.
01:01It's misleading. The medics said we can't talk the stats but the medicine is nonsense, the forensic and so on.
01:09One of the failures we're looking at here, we're looking at a number of judicial failures, a miscarriage of justice and a failure of the health service to mark its own homework if you like.
01:20To decide what it got wrong and what it has to put right.
01:25If your lawyers, for whatever good reason, tactical reason, did not deploy a piece of evidence and you try to use it later, you can't.
01:34So if your lawyers make a mistake, you're banged up for life, hard luck.
01:38That's not justice. It may be judicially convenient but it's not justice.
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