NFL MVP Debate: Josh Allen vs. Lamar Jackson Odds & Predictions

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00:00All pro first-team offense as voted George. I don't know if you felt any particular way

00:06About some of the players here, but you know for me, I think what stands out is, you know

00:11You don't see Josh Allen's name there. You don't see Josh Allen's face there. I get that

00:16You know Lamar Jackson was the quarterbacks. That's the debate can't you know, really argue with anything else here?

00:21Honestly, I mean Jamar Chase was the best receiver Brock Bowers was the best tight end

00:24You know, I think he's not a fantasy guy per se but Penny Sewell

00:29I think it's probably one of the most underrated players in the NFL. I mean this guy is

00:34Fantastic and when the Lions took him they got a lot of crap for that

00:36It turned out to be the right pick as well. So I know we're gonna make a lot about it

00:40I don't ever you know, I don't ever recall a scenario

00:45Where we didn't really know who the NFL MVP is even after the season like we really don't know

00:52Which leads me to believe and I think we talked about this maybe or I don't know if I did it on Newswire George

00:57I think we're gonna get a tie for the NFL MVP for the first time since I think it was far was the last one

01:02I think we're gonna get a tie for the NFL MVP this season. I

01:07Mean, I always feel bad debating this because they both had great seasons. All right, great

01:12I mean Josh Allen's great Lamar Jackson. Great. All right

01:15I do think Allen's likely to win the MVP, but only because of voter fatigue

01:21You know what? I'm gonna call it for Lamar Jackson, right? You look at the numbers there

01:25Jackson's numbers are better than Allen's almost across the board. I mean almost across the board

01:29He has been the better player now. I understand we can argue

01:34Valuable. All right, but you know and I it's hard to argue against that

01:39Lamar Jackson has better players around him than Josh Allen does

01:44So maybe Josh Allen is more valuable. We were worried coming to the season. Yeah. Oh, yes. No, we're not thrown to you

01:50Okay, are they traded?

01:50Uh, they made that trailer can't say they took a lesser receiver in cold when they should have had worthy that sort of thing

01:55Oh, we didn't expect James Cook to have the season he had which is fantastic

01:59You know, I mean Shakira sort of saved them there with the baby. I think they saw this coming

02:03He had a nice season for them better than we thought

02:06Fantasy wise more than maybe NFL wise there, but I don't think there's much of a debate here. I said in my mind

02:13Jackson was the better place. They both great, but Jackson was the better player this year

02:18Yeah, I the one thing that I hear sometimes to George and it just drives me crazy

02:23with the with the MVP discussion is

02:28They everyone says well, where would Buffalo be without Josh Allen, right?

02:33Like what would their record be without Josh Allen? How many games that they win in the regular season Buffalo? I'm not even sure was it

02:39With a 13 and 4 or something like that that sounds

02:43Okay, so they're 13 and 4 without Josh Allen would they have won 8 games maybe right?

02:48So like that's kind of the the debate the fight like all like where would they be? Where would they be?

02:53It to me George. It's like the stupidest conversation to have where would the Bucs be without Baker Mayfield?

02:59Where would Washington be without Jaden Daniels? I've seen it the last 10 years

03:03You cannot use that as the argument you could do that with 25 teams in the NFL

03:07The quarterback position in the NFL is so weak that any team is the quarterback without them

03:14You're gonna lose every game. Look at the Saints this season. Look at the Dallas Cowboys this season

03:19No team can survive losing the starting quarterback every year. There's one or two this year

03:25It happened to be the Vikings Sam Darnold had a great year, but that's the unicorn in the NFL. That is not the norm

03:31So when I hear that debate

03:33The Ravens would be in just as poor a position without Lamar Jackson as Buffalo would be without Josh Allen and I can play

03:41That game with my homes and every other quarterback in the NFL. So don't please don't use that now

03:47If you want to use George the talent around him absolutely fair

03:51I think that that's fair did Allen make more of his season without the same amount of talent

03:56yes, but is Lamar Jackson just as important to the Ravens as

04:02Josh Allen is to the Buffalo Bills

04:04Yes

04:05I don't know why we talk about that George like I can use teams that win six games in the NFL and

04:11Ask where that team would be without their quarterback, too. I don't get that one at all

04:17Well, yeah, once again, I'm agreeing with you way too much today, but I agree

04:201,000% here it's so true

04:23You can actually I would make the argument by the way that Buffalo would be better with their backup. Mr

04:29Would be with Josh Johnson

04:30All right. I think that's I think that's pretty easy there now that you risky is great

04:34But I think he's a better backup than Johnathan Johnson is

04:37You know, so I guess I just I feel bad because these guys are both great both great

04:43All right. I mean, they're fantastic quarters. We do need to pick one. I said, I think Josh Allen. I

04:49Don't feel as strongly about this Greg as I did a month ago a month ago. It's gonna be Alan

04:55You know now I think people start realize the numbers are showing a little more better just better here

05:00But I just wonder it's why Tom Brady didn't win more MVPs, you know

05:04You and I baseball Mike Trout didn't win all those. Yeah, he's because you know the board

05:08We know who the best player is doesn't always win, you know, so I think it'll be Alan here

05:14But I think it's getting a little closer and your idea of a tie. I don't know how I feel about that

05:18You know, I want to see a winner here. I want to see a sister. It's happened

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