00:00The Russian embassy, which yesterday was the stage, the epicenter, a real scandal, today the issue is decreasing, but there are still things to solve, among other things, the neighborly conflict that exists there.
00:12I understand that this is a gathering, Rodríguez Peña Street, between the neighbors and the diplomatic officials. Leo, how are you? Good afternoon, how are you?
00:21How are you, Facu? Good afternoon. Well, we are here at the embassy, yes.
00:28You will see, well, there is tranquility today. After what was experienced yesterday, obviously, today tranquility returned here to the embassy.
00:37An embassy that is guarded by federal forces, by the federal police, in this case, on the outside.
00:44And on the inside, obviously, everything that has to do with the security of the Soviet Union.
00:51So here, look, let's see, details. You have the two officers there, the gate is closed.
00:59What they tell us is that the people who entered yesterday have not left the interior of the embassy again.
01:07Surely, well, now this is going to follow a judicial process that the court will have to resolve, as they spoke very early.
01:17But, in principle, it will govern the idea that at least a car with a diplomatic license cannot be stopped.
01:26At least that's what they say, yes. So there lies the first issue, yes.
01:33Should they stop it? Should they not stop it? Well, in principle, no, no.
01:39But, well, now that is going to turn into a judicial process that the court will have to resolve because it does necessarily intervene.
01:47Then you have the other issue, which is that of the neighbors.
01:51Some neighbors, I'll tell you, claimed for this situation.
01:56The fences that are on the sidewalk, that occupy the entire sidewalk, and that is there, as you will see, the place where she walks.
02:03As she walks, we were with this girl, yes.
02:06Of course, a few centimeters.
02:07Well, she's walking, well, it's a bit uncomfortable, of course.
02:10And it's a bit uncomfortable, but there is still a place to cross.
02:16They don't allow us to get here, obviously.
02:18This is where people walk.
02:21You walk through this part and this is what is left of the sidewalk.
02:25Yesterday, taking advantage of the situation of the cameras in the place,
02:32which was for a completely unrelated case to the claim of the neighbors,
02:36they took advantage, they left, and they began to expose that situation that they have apparently been accusing for a long time.
02:44It's not a matter of yesterday, but they had presentations in front of a legal issue,
02:51trying to get them to get up, or to make shorter sections,
02:54because they said that some neighbors had collided, had stumbled.
02:58And as they saw the possibility, the truth is that they all went out to complain about the fences and the fences.
03:05Yes, exactly.
03:06Exactly, well, and there is this situation where some, necessarily,
03:10so as not to walk through the fences, through the fence, have to walk through the asphalt.
03:17Of course, they go against the cars that go through Rodríguez Peña.
03:23There is clearly a problem.
03:25There is clearly a problem. In this case, one understands that they are a few meters,
03:30but it is true what the neighbors raise.
03:32Well, look, you walk up with the difficulty that that has,
03:36with what we know that there are accidents on the streets all the time,
03:41there are not the right fences.
03:43On the other hand, why is there this scenario?
03:45Of course, there it is.
03:47Why is there this scenario of going to the Russian embassy?
03:50No, this has to do with our security issue that occurred after the war began.
03:56To understand that the embassy can be a blank situation linked to the war conflict that is taking place in Ukraine,
04:03they decided to fence all the embassies.
04:05There were demonstrations of Ukrainians here in Argentina, there at the Russian embassy.
04:09So the delegation, obviously, what they have asked for is a protection fence
04:14to prevent them from accessing the doors and windows physically.
04:18So that's why the fences are there.
04:20It's a place, let's see, this embassy has been here for a lot of years.
04:24It's a nuisance for the neighbors and yes, the truth is yes.
04:27We would have to take measures from the city and yes, also.
04:30That is, to make a kind of corralito also for the people.
04:32Yes, what I was looking at, Leo, there you can show it better,
04:35is that it is a model of fences where the fence ends in a plate that tries, well, to make a mess.
04:46There is that attempt, that search to facilitate it.
04:49What happens is that what they don't want is to walk up there, Leo.
04:53It's a plate, an L-shaped plate, I would tell you.
04:57It's very unstable.
04:59It ends with this, which is the place where you have to step.
05:03It's not unstable.
05:05And what happens, Facu.
05:07It's annoying out there.
05:08Notice that no one goes through there.
05:10Everyone listens to him.
05:15It is an embassy of a country that is in conflict.
05:19Yes, therefore, also and that has been, I don't know, some manifestation,
05:24but above all because what some officials told us is that, well,
05:28it is a country that is in a war conflict, therefore it requires a greater protection in that sense.
05:35And that's why at some point, in fact, Rodríguez Peña cut himself at the beginning of what was the war with Ukraine.
05:42This door, yes, was a place of cut.
05:46You could get here and the valley crossed completely Rodríguez Peña.
05:51But hey, look, you can move forward.
05:53You walk around here.
05:55Here, in fact, is the Russian flag.
05:58One has his inconvenience, obviously.
06:03You can step on it well.
06:05It makes a lot of noise because it's a plate.
06:07You can hear it.
06:09You see?
06:10And here it ends, right at the limit.
06:13Yes?
06:14And here I was telling you, another of the doors that at the time also worked as part of a valley that cut at the beginning.
06:19Do you know what happened, Leo?
06:21When the beginning of the war occurred, all the cut.
06:24Going to the edge is also very dangerous.
06:26Do you know why?
06:27Because trucks, trucks, collectives pass.
06:30And with the mirror, you see, they have on the sides.
06:33I've seen more than once that they hit people.
06:35Yes, they hit you, yes.
06:36They are on the edge of the curb.
06:38That also involves, let's say, a problem or a danger.
06:42Obviously, the neighbors, what they want is to have.
06:45But the embassy is in conflict, you have to understand it.
06:48And then with the issue of yesterday.
06:50They were very angry yesterday, Javi.
06:52Yes, but I think.
06:53It was like the drop that spilled the glass.
06:55Yes, but both parties, for me, are right.
06:57The traffic control of the city and the police.
07:00And on the other hand, the embassy is also right.
07:03On both sides.
07:04It's a compulsion.
07:05This happens in all countries.
07:06Yes, yes, yes.
07:07This happens in all countries.
07:08Until he takes out a credential from inside and says,
07:11Diplomatic.
07:12They do the beña.
07:13Bye.
07:14And it continues.
07:15What happens is that, also.
07:16Let's suppose that one of the two officials was drunk.
07:20You see, they escorted one.
07:22They accompanied him.
07:23The first, of course.
07:25Well.
07:26They accompanied both of them.
07:27I think they accompanied both of them.
07:29Yes, they accompanied both of them.
07:30Both, but one more.
07:31Yes, yes.
07:32One more with a motorcycle and so on.
07:33Yes.
07:34I mean, it's not bad to accompany them too.
07:35It's not bad, of course.
07:36Because if they, under the presumption that he may be drunk,
07:38No, what you can say.
07:39It's a safeguard to avoid any problems.
07:41Now I'm going to share the note, the very hard note,
07:44that the Russian embassy presented to the Chancellery.
07:49Yes.
07:50Because this escalates into a diplomatic conflict.
07:51Two things.
07:52Now I come back with Leo.
07:53Leave it on the screen.
07:54Now I'm going with Winokur with that.
07:56Yes.
07:57And Mechi prepares something that was the answer that the mothers of pain,
08:00Vivian Perrone to the head,
08:02who have fought a lot for the subject of vehicle controls.
08:05Many of their children or daughters died as victims of traffic accidents
08:10against legislators or against those who believe that,
08:14effectively, the control did not have to be done.
08:17There is an issue of immunity.
08:19Yesterday we explained it very well.
08:20Of course, we continue to work on the subject.
08:23I'm going to show you where Flor Ducatelli is.
08:25Because many began to look for the cars that were seized,
08:29not the Russians, because the Russian cars were not seized.
08:32I think Javi should prime the common sense here.
08:35I agree with what you say, which is the common sense.
08:38Lower the window.
08:40If you see it visibly alcoholized, it is a subject.
08:43If you see that it is not alcoholized, it is another different subject.
08:46So, well, that Russian embassy, someone told me yesterday,
08:51had some inconvenience at some point with a subject of suspicion of drug trafficking.
08:56Remember?
08:57Remember?
08:58For a judicial cause.
08:59A very large judicial cause.
09:00Suspected.
09:01In addition, a policeman also involved in the suitcase of cocaine trafficking.
09:06Yes?
09:07Well, let's see, the traffic controls have to be done.
09:10Even when he is the president of the nation, and he is driving, and they stop him,
09:15then, well, obviously he is the president,
09:17unless he commits a crime or something like that,
09:20he takes it and goes on.
09:22In this case, there was a resistance, there was a suspicion,
09:27and not because he has the patent,
09:29you see that many times the patents are with several numbers, several letters,
09:32they are diplomatic patents.
09:34Not because of the patent, they do it well,
09:36they say, ah, no, you have to show the documentation that you believe.
09:38It may be a diplomatic patent, consular patent,
09:40international body patent,
09:42administrative personnel patent,
09:44there are many administrative personnel.
09:46It has to be diplomatic.
09:47They are oriundic, of course,
09:48diplomatic.
09:49But with the variation of the letters.
09:51I'm going to go with Flor Ducatelli,
09:53I'm going, Mechie,
09:54and you explain to me well what happened there with the Mothers of Pain.
09:57Leo, what is calmer in the neighborhood, right?
10:04More calm, obviously,
10:06the complaints of those who have to walk down this sidewalk,
10:10yes, of Rodríguez Peña,
10:12on the left side,
10:14but hey,
10:16they have this coexistence for a long time,
10:19for several years, I tell you,
10:21the fences appeared on the first day when the war with Ukraine began,
10:26and from that moment this fence was established,
10:30that is, it has been a long time of coexistence,
10:33although it bothers, but hey, it is established like this.
10:36Yesterday, obviously, they saw a lot of movement,
10:39more than usual,
10:42and sometimes some other complaint also has to do,
10:45although they have reserved spaces for vehicles,
10:49what has to do with the embassy,
10:52sometimes the neighbors also complain
10:54that some leave the cars anywhere,
10:58that they occupy all the spaces,
11:00that it is impossible to park in this block,
11:02as a block, I would tell you,
11:04absolutely managed by the Russian embassy.
11:07But hey, we'll have to see later.
11:10We are going to follow the judicial lanes,
11:12what happened yesterday,
11:13and well, surely later everyone will be clearer
11:16what has to be done,
11:18the traffic agents and also the staff of the different embassies,
11:22what has to be done in these types of situations.
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