00:00As we have been informed, here is the vehicle, from the back, the driver, who we presume is a diplomat,
00:08was mentioned from the Russian embassy, sitting at the wheel, cell phone in hand, and there,
00:12talking, three people, who we also presume belong to the embassy, in Spanish,
00:18talking to a police officer, precisely to see how to act.
00:22He is no longer a traffic officer, they had to go to a city police officer,
00:27and we have also seen a police officer from the Argentine Federal Police,
00:31who has also joined us here.
00:33So, I presume that he will also be talking to the Chancellery,
00:36who is on duty today, December 25th, to see, well, in this context,
00:41in this context, how to act, if they are going to let him continue moving forward,
00:47if he is going to be subject to alcoholism control.
00:49We were checking the 17081 law, which respects the Vienna Convention,
00:53and seeing what happens to the property of a consulate, of an embassy.
00:58For now, we are reading what happens to consular premises, right?
01:02They will enjoy the inviolability granted to them by this article,
01:06it is Article 31 of this law, and we are also checking what happens,
01:10because it is clear what Cristian pointed out, it is interesting,
01:12what happens inside a vehicle...
01:14Because what you are saying is a real estate property.
01:18Look, look.
01:19An embassy, a house, a real estate property.
01:21This is a real estate property.
01:22Law 17081, Article 31.
01:25Cris, are you listening?
01:27Point 4.
01:28Perfect, Fernando.
01:29Consular premises, their real estate, office property, and their means of transport...
01:35There it is.
01:36...cannot be subject to any requirement for reasons of national defense or public utility.
01:43If expropriation were serious for these purposes,
01:45possible measures will be taken to prevent the exercise of consular functions from being disrupted,
01:49and the State will be paid for sending an immediate, adequate, and effective compensation.
01:54We reiterate, I am reading Law 17081, Article 31.4.
02:00Consular premises, real estate, office property, and their means of transport...
02:05Yes.
02:06...cannot be subject to any requirement for reasons of national defense or public utility.
02:09Wait, wait, wait.
02:10One thing is the requirement.
02:11One thing is the requirement, which is to check.
02:13One requirement is to search.
02:15Here they don't want to check or search.
02:17Here they are asking the driver of a vehicle from the Russian embassy to do the alcohol test.
02:22The man refused to do the alcohol test and refused to get out of the vehicle.
02:26Therefore, he is committing an offence.
02:28It is in Argentine soil.
02:30These are our traffic rules.
02:32You must respect them.
02:33As much as the vehicle is from an embassy, in this case, the Russian embassy.
02:37The member of the embassy can say that he is doing...
02:41Or they are trying to...
02:43Sorry, the point is what is the primary criterion.
02:45If the criterion is that he is traveling in Argentine soil,
02:49or the criterion is that he is doing it for the good of the Russian embassy...
02:53No, it doesn't matter.
02:54...which is protected by this convention.
02:56He should be released with a traffic control.
02:57Because, you know what happens?
02:59I am in the Argentine embassy in Spain.
03:01There is a traffic control.
03:03I pass by because I am Argentine.
03:05But the truth, Carlos, is to consult a constitutionalist.
03:07Yes.
03:08I don't know if so far we have consulted some of them.
03:09It's true.
03:10I would like to talk to you, but...
03:11The traffic control...
03:12He tells me that there are no privileges.
03:13The traffic control...
03:14He is driving on Argentine soil, and the traffic control has to do it.
03:18Yes, but the embassies are also on Argentine soil.
03:21However, they are part of the state that owns them.
03:24But he is traveling on Argentine soil,
03:26with a vehicle from a Russian embassy, in an alcoholics control.
03:29So, if you...
03:30He has no privileges.
03:32The member of the embassy obviously has the data,
03:36or has read the Law 17081,
03:39which talks about a respect of the Vienna Convention of 1963
03:42on consular relations,
03:43and that in its article 31.4
03:45it talks about the premises, furniture and means of transport
03:49that cannot be subject to privileges due to a matter of defense.
03:53Well, he can deduce that.
03:54Yes.
03:55Surely he is communicating with the authorities,
03:57with a higher authority.
03:58No, sure.
03:59To see and be protected against this attempt of privilege.
04:02Christian, you said it.
04:03He will consider it.
04:04Since when is this man there?
04:05Sorry, I said it before.
04:09Approximately it will be an hour, 60 minutes,
04:11that this person has been here.
04:13We assume that he is an official of the Russian embassy.
04:17The vehicle has a consular patent.
04:22Well, the data you just gave, means of transport.
04:25It is a means of transport, it cannot be subject to privileges.
04:28But of course, the four covers are on Argentine territory.
04:32Now, what happens if the driver gets out of the vehicle?
04:36I mean, you have to see in the small letter of that law
04:39that Fernando presented us very well.
04:41He cannot be subject to privileges,
04:43but to a contract of alcoholism he is supposed to be.
04:46But for some reason, I mean, if he gets out of the window,
04:49he can be subject to control.
04:51And this is where there is a legal vacuum.
04:54Christian, but the contract of alcoholism is not a privilege.
04:56No, no, no, it is not a privilege.
04:58It is not a particular type of privilege.
05:00No, you are controlling that a person does not drive alcoholized.
05:02The member of the consulate, in the case of the embassy,
05:05can say, I am...
05:07He is in a means of transport that belongs to the Russian Federation.
05:12It does not belong to the Argentinean Republic.
05:14And I see that certain agents are trying to require it.
05:17No, no, no, it is not a requirement.
05:19Let's do one thing, let's see how the story ends later.
05:21Colleagues, let's take into account at an airport,
05:23at an airport, for example, when the staff of embassies
05:26does not have to open their suitcases either.
05:28I mean, let's agree on that, for example.
05:30I mean, the staff of embassies have many privileges.
05:36Among them, for example, is that situation, right?
05:39Obviously, not to drive alcoholized,
05:41but we do not know if it is alcoholized either.
05:43It is not confirmed that it is alcoholized.
05:45That is to say, it is a presumption.
05:47Maybe it is not alcoholized.
05:48No, if it is denied, if it is denied, Christian.
05:50Maybe in terms of security, he can argue that
05:52he does not go down the window for security reasons
05:54in a country that is at war.
05:56That does not happen anywhere in the world.
05:58It does not happen anywhere in the world that a person
06:00transits on Argentine soil or on any soil.
06:02They want to do an alcohol control
06:04without obviously enriching the vehicle
06:06and the person is denied.
06:08That is, under this concept that we are proposing,
06:11this person, we are going to put a hypothesis
06:13that it is alcoholized.
06:15You let him go because he has a car from the Russian embassy
06:17and alcoholized can kill a person.
06:19No, he has to get out of control,
06:21you give him 0-0 and he can continue his course.
06:23The truth, that's what has to happen.
06:25With this man or with anyone else who is driving
06:27or circulating on this avenue,
06:29there are alcohol control.
06:31Article 42, communication in case of arrest,
06:33preventive detention or instruction
06:35of a criminal procedure,
06:37speaks of the Argentine receiving state
06:39being forced to communicate it without delay
06:41to the head of the consular office.
06:43In this case, there is no arrest,
06:45there is no arrest.
06:47If there was a procedure,
06:49a procedure that is usual
06:51on this date, especially
06:53when it is more extreme,
06:55there is no alcohol control.
06:57Excuse me, at this time...
07:01Yes, while Cristian is also looking for information...
07:03No, no, no, just a detail,
07:05there was a collision with a car...
07:07Let's get closer because there is some information...
07:09You drive everything.
07:11You drive everything.
07:13With respect to how it was acted in this case,
07:15how it is being acted.
07:17In the case of positive,
07:19the legal procedure continues.
07:21And if he doesn't do it, what happens?
07:23That's up to the police.
07:25We don't interfere in that matter.
07:27What are you going to do with him?
07:29He refused.
07:31We are waiting for the police
07:33to finish solving how to proceed with this.
07:35We, as I repeat,
07:37request their collaboration
07:39to continue with the procedure dictated by the law.
07:41Has this ever happened to you?
07:43Did you expect to start on the 25th like this?
07:45A little.
07:47Yes, it's not the first time it happens.
07:49Thanks to the police of the city,
07:51we have always been aware
07:53of our safety
07:55and that the procedures are being followed.
07:57You just mentioned that other diplomats
07:59passed by and braked.
08:01They did the test.
08:03In fact, just now,
08:05a car of a diplomat passed by.
08:07He blew, he continued.
08:09In the course of the morning, two or three also passed by.
08:11What country are you from?
08:13I know one was from Russia,
08:15but I can't tell you exactly.
08:17That's why we are surprised
08:19that you don't want to carry out the control
08:21when other people...
08:23You can't deny that.
08:25You can't deny that.
08:27You can't deny that.
08:29I don't know.
08:31No, not at the moment.
08:33I don't know if the officers will be able to identify him
08:35when they talk to him.
08:37Did he go down the window at some point
08:39or was he denied from minute zero
08:41when you wanted to submit him to the control?
08:43I don't know if he understood
08:45what we explained to him as a procedure.
08:47He told us that he didn't want to carry it out.
08:49And when we explained to him the importance of doing the control,
08:51he just went up the window and continued.
08:53Did he stay there?
08:55Did he advance a few meters?
08:57No, no, no, he stayed there.
08:59As he parked the car, the vehicle is there.
09:01I don't think you can answer this question,
09:03but do you have any kind of immunity for being a diplomat?
09:05That's up to the police to answer.
09:07Of course, we have to see many things.
09:09Article 4 tells us...
09:11Sorry, I'm going to read it because I really don't remember.
09:13Article 4 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations
09:15of 18.04.1961
09:17Article 41 states that
09:19without prejudice of their privileges and immunities,
09:21all people who enjoy those privileges and immunities
09:23must respect the laws and regulations
09:25of the receiving state.
09:27He is obliged to stop and cooperate.
09:29Exactly, he has to do the process
09:31like any normal citizen who has it.
09:33Did you find out about this now
09:35from the small letter
09:37or did you already know that in the case of diplomats
09:39it was done this way?
09:41Yes, that's why we are aware
09:43that he has the obligation to do it
09:45and at no time has he been allowed to withdraw
09:47because we are aware that he has to carry out the controls
09:49and he has to act as...
09:51I don't know about the first one,
09:53but we are instructed in this.
09:55Did you mention the Vienna Convention
09:57and this article that you just read to the driver?
09:59I gave it to the officer I just talked to
10:01and I talked to one of the people
10:03who presented himself at the time
10:05and I indicated the article to him.
10:07Martin, it's your first day and your first time
10:09talking to the media.
10:11Have you ever been at the party
10:13about Juan B. Justo and Santa Fe?
10:15More or less.
10:17It's what makes it good.
10:19This is where you can see
10:21the importance of the controls
10:23and that no one is exempt from respecting the law.
10:25Thank you very much.
10:27They are now surrounding this vehicle.
10:29Well, very clear.
10:31The traffic officer, the truth is that the detail is perfect.
10:33Vienna Convention, the corresponding articles.
10:35He has to submit to alcoholism control
10:37even though we presume to be a diplomatic official.
10:39He does not get out of the vehicle.
10:41Now he was surrounded by two police officers
10:43from the city,
10:45while he has also approached
10:47personnel from the Argentine Federal Police.
10:49But as I just mentioned,
10:51the person in charge of this alcoholism control
10:53here in Libertador and Callao
10:55does not have to deny himself
10:57despite being a diplomatic official.
10:59We presume to have a diplomatic patent
11:01to have to submit to alcoholism control.
11:03He drove the vehicle
11:05and he was surrounded
11:07by people...
11:09He drove the vehicle
11:11and he was surrounded
11:13by people...
11:15He drove the vehicle
11:17and he was surrounded
11:19by people...
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