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Emploi au Maroc : Le bilan de l’année 2024 avec Omar Tijani - 23/12/2024
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00:00
Ladies and gentlemen, hello and welcome to Focus Eco.
00:11
In 2024, the unemployment rate rose to more than 21% according to the latest figures published by the HCP.
00:19
Employment creation is now a major issue.
00:23
Employment in Morocco, what are we talking about in this retrospective of employment that we are doing for the year 2024?
00:30
With you, Mr. Omar Tijani, you are a professor of economics at the Faculty of Architecture.
00:34
It is a pleasure to welcome you.
00:36
It's a pleasure to be here. Hello to you, Madam Khamnichi and to your viewers.
00:40
Thank you for the invitation.
00:41
A pleasure to welcome you.
00:43
So we're going to start without hesitation before talking about the report.
00:47
But we're going to talk about this figure, which is 21.3% of the unemployment rate announced by the HCP.
00:55
Was it an expected figure? Are we in a situation today that has become critical?
01:02
Do we have to sound the alarm?
01:07
Yes, we tend to go towards mass unemployment, which is critical of the social situation of the labor market in Morocco.
01:18
We are used to consulting the statistics of the HCP, which are rather periodic, every quarter, which are less dramatic than that.
01:28
Recently, we have the figure of 21%, which in fact has to bring us together as economic and social actors,
01:36
government and economic actors, companies, etc., to think about possible solutions.
01:41
How do you explain this increase in unemployment?
01:45
And in the end, if we had to do the report this year when we talk about employment, is it a pessimistic report?
01:52
Yes, the causes are multiple.
01:55
I can qualify that, I can distinguish that in causes, if you will, exogenous or objective,
02:03
linked essentially to the changes in the labor market.
02:06
Recently, after Covid, the labor market has seen profound changes.
02:12
Young people are not equipped, let's say, are not ready to face these changes,
02:20
especially with the Moroccan educational system.
02:23
Jobs that appear, others that disappear.
02:25
The labor market requires agility, problem-solving, autonomy,
02:31
which the Moroccan educational system does not allow, does not give to young people.
02:38
So the changes in the labor market, on the one hand,
02:41
also the drought that hit the kingdom during the last two years,
02:46
which has caused us to lose jobs in the rural world.
02:51
Concerning the causes, let's say, subjective or endogenous, linked to the actions of the government,
02:58
first of all, the economic growth that has found difficulties to take place
03:08
because of the economy that is actually closed.
03:12
The liberalization of the labor market is on the brink, in fact.
03:16
We have an economy that is rather, that has slum niches.
03:21
This is a handicap for economic growth.
03:24
Second, the low rate of industrialization in Morocco,
03:29
with the various programs, the Industrial Acceleration Programme 2014-2020,
03:35
its objectives of increasing the industrial GDP by 25%,
03:39
it has not been successful.
03:43
And also, finally, the fiscal pressure,
03:47
with the social issues of social coverage and the World Cup organization,
03:52
the state's recipes set objectives.
03:56
And we put pressure on companies for that.
03:59
And that breaks employment, in fact.
04:01
– Multiple reasons, in any case, that you have just mentioned,
04:05
but there are also multiple external shocks,
04:08
an inflation that has been imported, wars,
04:10
so an international conjuncture that logically impacts the national economy.
04:16
And yet, the Moroccan economy has always shown to be more or less resilient.
04:19
Growth is positive.
04:21
But in terms of unemployment, it poses a problem.
04:24
Even if growth is positive, in terms of employment,
04:27
we do not create enough.
04:29
– Yes, growth is always positive.
04:31
We make more GDP each year than last year.
04:36
Now, to reconcile the economic and the social is not easy.
04:41
It is a subtle mixture, delicate to find,
04:46
between the economic logic and the social logic, in fact.
04:50
In my opinion, it is necessary that all the actors
04:55
intervening in the Moroccan economy,
05:00
the government and the economic actors,
05:03
come together and put themselves in place.
05:05
And also, the levers on the labor market,
05:07
universities, etc., question themselves
05:10
to find solutions, common solutions.
05:14
Economic growth is linked to the rates
05:18
that we know each year, between 3% and 4%.
05:22
But the existence of income niches in the economy
05:27
allows us not to take advantage of this economic growth.
05:31
– When you talk about income niches, can you go further?
05:35
– Yes.
05:36
If you look at the new development model in Morocco,
05:47
the Moroccan economy has experienced a weak liberalization.
05:55
The process of liberalization, although it is necessary,
05:59
has a hard time settling.
06:01
Some sectors reason as if we have a pie.
06:08
The more actors and competitors we have,
06:11
the less we will have each.
06:13
However, the economy does not work like that.
06:15
The economic state of mind sees that the more we are in a sector,
06:21
we will produce two pies.
06:24
– The more competitive we are, the more competitive we are.
06:26
– Exactly, the more competitive we are,
06:27
we will produce two pies, to return to the example.
06:31
I am not saying that all sectors are full.
06:37
But some niches also make economic growth difficult to settle.
06:44
It's not just that.
06:46
I believe that in Morocco we do a lot of things
06:50
to encourage investment,
06:53
whether national or international.
06:57
The Moroccan capital in terms of national investment
07:00
still has to make efforts
07:02
because 60% of the investment is made by the state.
07:05
– So go a little more towards the private sector
07:08
to create more growth.
07:10
You were talking earlier about skills and human capital.
07:14
When we talk about training today in Morocco,
07:18
is there an inadequacy
07:21
between the current existing training
07:24
and the needs of the market?
07:26
You were talking about mutations.
07:28
We are in the middle of it,
07:30
we are living today a mutation in the labor market in general.
07:34
How not to miss this gap?
07:37
– Very well, I come from the university environment.
07:39
We often tend to send the responsibility of unemployment
07:43
partly to the university.
07:46
In the global scheme, yes.
07:49
There is an inadequacy between training
07:53
and the demands of the labor market.
07:55
But I believe that the university has made an effort
07:57
in terms of subsidiaries,
07:59
the adaptation of subsidiaries
08:01
in relation to what the economic actors demand.
08:03
But I believe that the biggest handicap is in the methods
08:06
and the way of teaching,
08:08
and what we teach young people.
08:11
Now we go to the university to acquire knowledge.
08:15
This is no longer the objective.
08:18
Knowledge is democratized now.
08:20
It is banalized, it is shared by everyone.
08:22
It is on the platforms.
08:24
We must change teaching methods.
08:26
We must pass on to young people
08:29
autonomy, responsibility, soft skills,
08:32
the ability to solve problems, agility.
08:35
– Or maybe focus on these new jobs
08:38
that are being created.
08:40
– Yes, also.
08:42
Support Industry 4.0
08:45
which requires skills
08:47
that the university does not also offer.
08:51
AI, database...
08:55
– When you talk about industry,
08:58
isn't there also a new risk
09:00
when we talk about these new skills,
09:02
artificial intelligence,
09:04
the development of technology, of robotization?
09:07
The employee, Lombeda,
09:10
who worked 8 hours a day,
09:12
can now be replaced by a machine
09:14
that could work 24 hours a day.
09:17
We would have fewer people
09:19
for the maintenance of these machines.
09:21
Is there a new risk
09:23
that is taking place on the horizon?
09:25
– This is a myth.
09:27
That technology will replace man
09:30
and will steal our jobs.
09:32
– Some jobs, in any case.
09:34
– Yes, but there is an ecosystem
09:37
of jobs that open up.
09:40
There is a big lever of employability.
09:47
I do remote work.
09:53
For example, young people
09:57
who work with foreign companies
10:00
in freelance.
10:02
I'm talking about everything
10:04
that new technology and computing
10:07
can offer.
10:09
Yes, some jobs will disappear,
10:12
but more jobs will appear.
10:15
We have to adapt to this
10:19
and give our young people skills
10:23
to support this change,
10:25
rather than staying in the classic logic
10:28
of transferring knowledge to the university.
10:31
Unfortunately, we don't even transfer skills,
10:34
but knowledge.
10:36
I say that it has changed.
10:38
It has started to change.
10:40
I come from a university.
10:42
I see it more closely.
10:44
We have to make more efforts on this
10:46
and give young people empowerment.
10:50
It allows them to be more autonomous
10:54
and more capable of solving problems instantly.
10:59
– So, in this assessment that we are doing
11:01
to conclude, if we had to project
11:03
on the prospects of employment
11:05
for the next year,
11:07
so for 2025,
11:09
what measures could we put in place
11:11
to fix the situation very quickly?
11:14
– To liberalize the economy more,
11:16
more economic growth,
11:18
that's in the long term.
11:20
And try to balance the fiscal logic
11:22
and the economic logic.
11:24
That's in the long term.
11:26
In the short term,
11:28
to reduce the unemployment figure
11:31
that is mentioned,
11:33
we have to flexibilize the labor market.
11:36
One.
11:37
Two.
11:38
Put more funds where we lose jobs.
11:41
That is, in the rural world.
11:43
The rural world is full of potential.
11:45
There is not only agriculture and agriculture.
11:47
There is rural tourism.
11:48
There is corporate entrepreneurship.
11:50
Everyone...
11:52
You want to spend a weekend in the countryside,
11:55
in a yacht or in a chalet, etc.
11:58
Rural tourism,
12:00
cooperatives,
12:02
craftsmanship,
12:03
agriculture, etc.
12:05
Put money on it
12:07
and create an entrepreneurial and wage-earning ecosystem
12:10
in the rural world,
12:11
where we lose jobs.
12:12
– Thank you, Mr. Ahoma Tijani.
12:14
I remind you that you are a professor of economics
12:16
at the Faculty of Agriculture.
12:17
It was a pleasure to have you with us
12:19
for this report on employment in 2024.
12:21
– Thank you and happy new year.
12:23
– Happy new year to our dear viewers as well.
12:26
This is the end of Focus Éco for today.
12:28
See you tomorrow for a new report.
12:30
Have a great day.
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