00:00We are going to start with two statements that we all want to know.
00:07Two very important statements.
00:10It has been long awaited for the court to hear, to hear again,
00:18Macarena and Camila Peña.
00:22Remember, Camila Peña had declared at the time,
00:25the mother of one of the girls who was with Loan in Naranjal,
00:29a woman who, along with Laudelina, walks to a place in Filando,
00:35in Naranjal, where Loan ends up disappearing,
00:38but for some reason, after taking a picture from behind,
00:44they return to Catalina's house.
00:48And what I have to say is very important.
00:51Camila Núñez had already declared five hours,
00:55and will do it again in the next few days.
00:58She already has the psychiatric examinations that were done to her,
01:03psychological examinations.
01:05And of course, another key statement, that of Macarena,
01:10because everyone wants to know what was it that finally happened
01:15with that boot, with that blessed boot.
01:18We have been told all the versions,
01:21that she put it, that Laudelina put it,
01:24that first she put it in a place and they had to take it out
01:27and she buried it and they had to take it somewhere else.
01:31What is the true story behind Loan's boot,
01:36more than six months, a Christmas without Loan,
01:40Bobby, which may be, in the next few days,
01:46a revival of very difficult emotions for a whole family
01:50that has been looking for this little boy for so long.
01:53You would say, last day of the year,
01:56with the judge who had asked for a license,
01:59with January, which is usually a month of low level of judicial activity.
02:03No, there is a lot, a lot of thread to cut in this cause.
02:08Because apart, I don't forget something, Pablo,
02:11that in this statement, which is expected,
02:15in principle as a testimonial of Camila and Macarena,
02:20of two women who were at the lunch
02:23from which Loan later and disappears
02:26and we never hear from him again,
02:28we can't lose sight that they were there.
02:31I don't lose sight of something either, Pablo,
02:33which is that in the statement that the prosecutors make,
02:36they asked for these two women, a request for an inquiry.
02:40Of course.
02:41So, be careful, because in principle,
02:43what they are going to is a testimonial,
02:46but we have to see if they are going to a testimonial
02:48as a prelude to the fact that at some point,
02:51maybe the judge's gaze can change about them,
02:55depending on some explanations they give
02:58about some of the events that happened that day.
03:01Of Camila, who you pointed out well,
03:05her little daughter played until the last moment with Loan,
03:09she saw them quite together,
03:11she goes with Laudelina to the famous orange grove
03:16and suddenly they come back earlier.
03:18It seems that more instances of Laudelina,
03:20but they go and come back.
03:22So there too, there is a look of why she came back,
03:26because if her daughter continued with the group of boys,
03:30she, as a mother, did not go.
03:32Will justice have any doubt about her in that movement?
03:35And the same Macarena, you pointed out the story of the loot,
03:39well, is the biggest doubt around this,
03:42what happened with that loot?
03:44Did she find it? Did Laudelina find it?
03:46Was it planted?
03:48Well, there are many doubts that justice has
03:50and that it is going to ask you in this next statement.
03:52Very well, yes, I was going to ask Fito,
03:54our man of law here in Who, When, Where,
03:57six months later,
03:59what value can these statements have
04:01that have been expected for so long?
04:03Let's remember, they have been taken at one point,
04:05but obviously they want to know something else.
04:08Let's see, Fito.
04:10The value is always a lot,
04:12the hope is a lot, the expectation is a lot.
04:15Pablo, very well,
04:17the judge can be thought of in this resolution.
04:21And why do I tell you briefly?
04:23Because the appointment to provide a testimony
04:27because they have the obligation to tell the truth.
04:31So, when they force you to tell the truth,
04:33they take a lot of things out of you
04:35and they can turn it into an inquiry at any time,
04:38including arresting you.
04:40Including arresting you.
04:42I mean, do we suspect,
04:44I ask you, I know you don't have a formed opinion,
04:47do we suspect that they didn't say something
04:52that they have more to tell, Fito?
04:54Is there such a possibility?
04:56For example, Camila Núñez declared five hours.
04:58She was the first woman to declare
05:00in front of Judge Poserpenso, right?
05:03Any of the two, Pablo?
05:05Write it down here.
05:07It seems to be much more than what you said.
05:09Or both.
05:11Or both, Pablo.
05:13The truth is still floating and bouncing
05:16within the family circle.
05:18Very well.
05:19I was thinking, right?
05:21In Macarena and everything that has happened.
05:23I was thinking about the American who is arrested
05:26and now in a little while we are going to tell you something.
05:29We are with Marcelo Hanson, lawyer of Fierrito.
05:32There we have it, just in the image.
05:34Daniel Fierrito Ramírez, lawyer of Mónica Millapi.
05:39He is the only one who has so far been able to achieve,
05:42at least among the main suspects,
05:46a home for this woman, mother of small children,
05:51who was out of touch.
05:53Well, a triumph, I understand.
05:55Marcelo, at least to end the year, right?
06:00Hello Pablo, how are you? Hello Fito.
06:02Hello.
06:03Yes, it could be interpreted that in a certain way
06:07the judge had a different look
06:10in what was the participation of Millapi in the cause
06:17and the procedural behavior he has had.
06:20Very well.
06:21How is she at the moment?
06:23We hear some audios.
06:27I don't know if we will have the opportunity to talk
06:30with Mónica Millapi in the afternoon,
06:33because of course her testimony is expected,
06:36at least for the media that have been following the case, right?
06:41Yes, she has recently agreed to start giving interviews
06:46and you will see that she always says the same thing,
06:49beyond the fact that there, obviously,
06:52the journalistic fan tries to change the questions.
06:57I know the journalistic quality of the network
07:00and they will try to go to the news,
07:03not so much to the cause,
07:05which is the only recommendation that we have made
07:08that it does not refer to precise terms,
07:11but to their participation,
07:13and not with respect to the rest of the defendants.
07:16Of course.
07:17Do you think this testimonial statement
07:20that Macarena and Camila Núñez are going to give
07:23at this point in the events?
07:26Well, you will remember, Pablo,
07:28that we have been asking for it
07:30practically since the secret of the summary was raised.
07:33Macarena and Camila declared in the province
07:37in the form of interviews,
07:39only with the present prosecutors.
07:42Then it went to federal justice,
07:45they declared with the federal,
07:49in a police headquarters,
07:51something that caught the attention,
07:54they declared with the prosecutor
07:57and they later declared with the judge,
08:01but also always under secret of summary,
08:04with which none of the defenses had access to be able to question.
08:09Of course, of course.
08:11And what would you like to ask him?
08:13I consult you.
08:15What would you like to ask him?
08:17If you can list some of the questions
08:19or concerns you have
08:21regarding Macarena and Camila Peña.
08:26Well, surely we will be talking again on Friday,
08:30when the testimonial round ends,
08:32both of Macarena, Camila and the parents.
08:35Before that, I will not reveal any questions.
08:38Very well.
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