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"We're expecting the judges to start reading out the verdicts at 9:30"
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12/19/2024
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00:00
That's right, Oliver. We're expecting the judges to start reading out those
00:05
verdicts at 9.30 here in the courtroom in Avignon. Five judges who have been in
00:12
deliberation since Monday after we heard the last words of Dominique
00:18
Pellicou and the 50 other men who stand alongside him. This could last
00:23
somewhere through to later morning. We're not exactly sure how long it will
00:28
take. Obviously we can't imagine the 50-51 verdicts and
00:32
potential sentences to be read out by those judges. As you said, the
00:37
maximum sentence of 20 years for aggravated rape has been demanded by
00:42
public prosecutors for Dominique Pellicou, Giselle Pellicou's
00:45
former husband, and it's a range of between 4 to 18 years for either
00:50
aggravated rape or sexual assault for the other 50 men who stand at trial
00:54
alongside him. We're expecting to see around 100 police officers in the
00:59
courtroom whilst those verdicts are read out, because currently one-third of the
01:04
men on trial are in police custody, but the rest of those men are free in
01:10
the meantime. They're free men in the meantime, and as we understand, if
01:14
they are found guilty, will be taken into detention immediately by those police
01:18
officers. Can you describe for us the atmosphere outside the court there?
01:22
It's been a case that has attracted a huge amount of public attention.
01:30
That's right, Oliver, a huge amount of attention, and even just walking here to
01:34
the courthouse in Avignon, about a 15-minute walk for us, you can see many
01:38
messages of support that have popped up overnight for Giselle Pellicou. Just
01:43
here, opposite the courthouse, there is a massive banner saying Merci Giselle,
01:48
thank you Giselle. We've seen several other messages as feminist groups have
01:52
come to Avignon and have put those messages up overnight for the
01:56
grandmother, and I don't know if you can potentially make out behind me, but
02:01
behind the courthouse, which is yet to have opened, there is already a
02:04
crowd of people, which is just really testament to how much attention this
02:09
trial has attracted. Many journalists, in fact, there is nearly 190 media
02:16
outlets accredited for this trial, 80 of which are foreign press. There's also, of
02:21
course, members of the public. Members of the public have been attending this
02:23
trial since the very beginning to applaud Giselle Pellicou and support her.
02:28
There are already dozens of people standing outside the courthouse right
02:32
now, waiting for it to open before that verdict. And Giselle Pellicou has found
02:37
herself an accidental feminist heroine, mainly due to her ordeal and also her
02:43
bravery during the trial. In what way might this case change attitudes toward
02:48
sexual violence in France? Well, obviously, a lot of people have been
02:54
discussing this and it's ignited a real debate here in France, as you said,
02:58
Pellicou being this kind of reluctant feminist icon after waiving her
03:01
anonymity. She says that she wanted the shame to shift from the
03:07
victim to the perpetrator. She's also said that she really wants to highlight
03:11
the issue of drug-induced rapes, which is a little-known issue here in
03:15
France. And all of her decisions to have waived her anonymity and to
03:23
stand up, as you said, in trial to those suspects has really gained her a lot of
03:29
admiration here, not just in France, but across the world. I think this case
03:34
speaks to a lot of ordinary French women because it just involves
03:39
a lot of ordinary people. It's not like the Me Too movement of a few years ago.
03:43
This is a very ordinary case, as a lot of people have been dubbing it,
03:47
involving ordinary men. There is a range of ages from 27 to 74. They have all
03:53
kinds of different professions, they're from all different walks of life. And the
03:56
poise that Giselle Pellicou has had throughout this trial, she has attended
04:01
here every day, she didn't have to, has gained her a lot of respect. And every
04:05
day, women, mainly women, have been coming to this courtroom in Avignon to
04:10
applaud her, to offer her bouquets of flowers, sometimes kisses on the cheek,
04:14
to speak to her and give messages of support. So I think this is a case, a
04:18
trial, that has really resonated with a lot of people here in France and
04:21
obviously also across the world. Thank you very much for that, Selena Sykes, who
04:25
will be covering that trial and the verdict in Avignon today.
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