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" aj Aayan ke Bad Zati Tor Par Bad Samjhta Hon Ke Mamlaat Hal Nahi Balkay Aur Baggar Jayen Ge. .. "
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" aj Aayan ke Bad Zati Tor Par Bad Samjhta Hon Ke Mamlaat Hal Nahi Balkay Aur Baggar Jayen Ge. .. "
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00:00
Yes, welcome to the show.
00:02
Sir, there is one thing, till yesterday everyone was saying that the talks are being held at different levels.
00:07
Now everyone is saying that the talks are not being held.
00:09
In fact, when I asked Mr. Rana Sinhaullah, he also told me at what level the talks are being held.
00:13
Please listen.
00:16
At what level the talks are being held?
00:18
It is at the same level as Ali Ameen Ghandapur's level.
00:22
What is that?
00:23
What is his level?
00:24
Whatever his level is, you can estimate it.
00:27
What can be Ali Ameen Ghandapur's level?
00:30
The talks are being held at that level.
00:32
At the level at which the talks are being held, there cannot be more talks than this.
00:35
And this talk will not go beyond that level?
00:37
This is what is being discussed.
00:38
No, the talk that you have referred to in your question, that talk is not being held.
00:47
Okay, the question is left.
00:48
In the question, I told him that there are three levels to talk to the establishment.
00:52
Either there is a sector commander or there is a DGC.
00:55
And if it is a very big thing, then the army chiefs talk about it.
00:58
He said that the talks are being held at the lowest level.
01:01
That is, the talks are being held at the sector commander level and will end.
01:04
But he said that talks are being held.
01:06
The rest of the people also said.
01:07
Today everyone is saying that talks are not being held.
01:09
So what happened suddenly in the last 24 hours?
01:13
That everyone is saying that no talks are being held.
01:15
Everyone is saying that let them come, we will see.
01:17
Khan Sahib is saying that you should at least leave the under trial prisoners so that the talks go ahead.
01:24
Is the government now wasting an opportunity?
01:27
There is an opening to not create tension.
01:30
My dear brother, today you are doing a little selective reading.
01:35
You are reading Khan Sahib that please do this much under trial prisoners.
01:42
This is a reasonable thing anyway.
01:44
If you want to show softness, then like you quoted the example of Dr. Jasmine Rashid.
01:50
It becomes a perfect example.
01:52
It becomes a humanitarian ground.
01:54
But having said that, you are just disregarding that part.
01:58
They are doing the same thing that don't go towards prayer.
02:01
They say that the person who subverted in today's statement,
02:06
he wants to tell who has all the power and authority.
02:10
And after saying this, in the evening you are giving a videotape and saying that I forgive you.
02:17
This does not happen.
02:19
Today you are blaming me yourself.
02:22
And the lady is saying in the evening that we will not take revenge.
02:26
So is there no clarity?
02:29
There is no clarity.
02:31
I am asking you politely, please listen to me.
02:35
I am ready to fall at your feet.
02:38
Please consider my white hair.
02:40
This is very very ill-advised release of video.
02:43
And very badly crafted statement.
02:46
Now the second thing is that these people who are wheels into wheels,
02:51
you and I know very well.
02:53
You will remember that when these talks of Nawaz Sharif Sahib were happening,
02:59
then I started writing that someone is about to fly, about to fly.
03:04
And many of my friends used to say that where are you from?
03:08
I was too sure because I was an active reporter.
03:11
As Vikas Sheth said,
03:14
it always happens that after a year or a year and a half you try that it is enough.
03:18
See, the first week of October,
03:22
your last five days were wasted, economically speaking.
03:26
Now the third week of November.
03:29
So this is a non-stop cycle that is going on.
03:33
So obviously sanity demands,
03:36
that somehow finish it.
03:38
It is not possible that they sit and give one more final call,
03:41
give one more call.
03:43
In that regard, there must have been a movement from wheels into wheels.
03:47
So now you can see that the establishment is more strict.
03:51
I think that the attitude is more strict,
03:55
that from where the feelers had gone,
03:58
See, you are forgetting one thing from Shahbaz Sharif Sahib,
04:03
whether you call it 1945 or 1947,
04:08
when Shahbaz Sharif, the Prime Minister,
04:11
is cut and given a message in a very painful way in front of the people,
04:16
otherwise they usually throw the mic on their foreheads,
04:19
and such constitutions etc.
04:21
Those poor people are saying that no,
04:23
sit down to fight for the economy, you know.
04:26
So technically speaking,
04:28
the Prime Minister has been asked to vent his anger.
04:33
Imran Khan is present.
04:35
That thing is present.
04:37
Imran Khan himself is saying that
04:40
you can have a conversation,
04:42
at least leave the under-trial prisoner.
04:45
He himself is giving you a way, Imran Khan.
04:48
Because he is in a position of...
04:50
No, but Malik, because he is in a position of strength at the moment.
04:55
The opposition has nothing to lose.
04:57
Government has everything to lose.
05:25
Shahbaz Sharif Sahib, what do you have to say?
05:27
Find one and you will get a thousand.
05:29
There is no such problem.
05:30
Find one and you will get a thousand.
05:32
And brother, if not Zafarullah Jamali,
05:34
Shaukat Aziz will come.
05:35
What is this?
05:36
Okay.
05:37
But I am just saying...
05:39
The system will continue to run like this.
05:40
I think that after today's statement,
05:43
the things that we were seeing as ease-out,
05:46
I personally think that
05:48
because of this ill-advised statement,
05:51
things will get worse.
05:53
Kashif.
05:55
My wife.
05:56
Look, 24...
05:57
Now, what is being said,
05:59
Jihad is there,
06:00
Hatmi is there,
06:01
read the funerals.
06:03
Look, now the government has to try to crush it.
06:07
Not just to stop it,
06:08
they will try to crush it,
06:09
that there is no Islamabad.
06:10
As the strictness increases,
06:12
at that time,
06:13
the space in the system decreases,
06:15
in any kind of conversation,
06:16
in the case of issues.
06:17
I agree with you completely,
06:18
that this has just happened.
06:19
It has been 8 months,
06:20
9 months for this government.
06:21
And it seems that
06:22
every next month is difficult.
06:23
When I spoke to you during the break,
06:25
you said that
06:26
3-4 weeks will pass.
06:27
I said, if 4 weeks pass,
06:28
then it will be 9 months.
06:29
Then?
06:30
Still, we will have to find a solution to these things.
06:33
Because if you do this,
06:35
it is not acceptable
06:36
to be the leader of the Jamaat.
06:38
Your last 30 seconds.
06:43
Look, Malik,
06:44
this has been decided,
06:46
I think,
06:47
from 2013 onwards,
06:48
that now the hybrid system
06:50
will work.
06:51
It can be a hybrid plus,
06:53
but not a hybrid minus.
06:55
So now you should learn
06:57
to live in a hybrid system.
06:59
If you and I...
07:01
How else can we learn?
07:03
Today they have given such an open statement
07:05
that there is nothing with institutions,
07:07
everyone will come and live together.
07:09
What else do we have to learn from this?
07:12
What do you want?
07:13
Will you know?
07:14
I am saying,
07:15
what else is a hybrid system?
07:18
You are saying,
07:19
let's go.
07:24
Let's go, let's go.
07:25
It will be a hybrid plus.
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