00:00Dear Guruji, may you protect us both together.
00:14The sacred verses of Nishads are like prayers.
00:20Please help me to understand this prayer.
00:22How can I stop my breath to turn this prayer into mere words or one more theoretical concept?
00:37Jitender, you have referred to one amongst the many Shanti Paath verses in the Upanishads.
00:56The Upanishads open with Shanti Paath verses.
01:08There are many of them.
01:13You have referred to one very common Shanti Paath.
01:21Many Upanishads open with this one.
01:27The teacher and the student, they together pray.
01:36They say Om.
01:37Protect us together, may we learn together, may we meditate together.
01:43And may we not turn against each other.
01:48May we not be full of hatred for each other.
01:55The Guru and the Shishya are praying.
02:01May we not be full of resentment against each other.
02:08Yes, Jitender.
02:11Good that you have asked for this to be explained.
02:28It's a love-hate relationship between the teacher and the student.
02:38Ever been with a gym trainer?
02:46How many of you?
02:47Or with a sports coach?
02:51How does he feel when he makes you run one more lap after you think you are done?
03:00Yes, you think you're done for the day and he says one more lap of the stadium, please.
03:07How does it feel?
03:08You feel delighted and really grateful?
03:20Do you?
03:24How do you feel?
03:26Sorry.
03:35It's just that some good sense and a bit of fear of authority prevents you from explicitly
03:48rebelling at that point, right?
03:51It's a combination of the two.
03:56Some good sense and a little bit of fear of authority.
04:05If you tell yourself, what he's saying is for my own good, isn't it?
04:10Yes, of course.
04:14He's a dog.
04:18But let me follow him.
04:20Because I am not a dog.
04:24I know where my interest lies.
04:32So it's easy to see why the student is likely to hate the teacher.
04:41The student is likely to hate the teacher.
04:47The teacher is not a supporter of the student.
04:56The teacher does not help in the furtherance of the student.
05:06To an extent, the teacher is like a character.
05:09And after a point, the teacher is not even a character.
05:15He's straight away a destroyer.
05:22Right?
05:26In fact, very recently, I had mentioned or written that you aren't yet a student.
05:39If you have not hated the teacher with all your might.
05:44No, I had gone beyond that.
05:47I had said you aren't yet a student if you haven't thought of murdering the teacher.
05:57You are a student only the day the thought of killing, eliminating the teacher comes to you.
06:05Then you qualify to be a student.
06:09Because if the teacher is really hitting the mark, then there would be an intense recoil from your side.
06:26If that recoil is not happening, it means either the teacher is missing the mark or you are shrewd enough to protect yourself.
06:39The real thing is not happening.
06:45The arrow is not hitting the jackpot.
06:56The center is not being penetrated.
06:59It is not being penetrated.
07:02And when the center is penetrated, it is not always sweets and roses.
07:12When the center is penetrated, it hurts. It hurts badly.
07:18The ego has been delivered a crushing blow.
07:21What do you think? It will come with honey and perfumes?
07:30What is it going to do?
07:36You have just slapped somebody hard.
07:39It's not even a mere slap. It's a fatal blow.
07:47What do you expect?
07:52Retaliation.
07:55All kinds of retaliation.
08:03The retaliation is not always overtly violent.
08:08There can be subtle violence as well.
08:14The teacher is trying to bring about fundamental change and you keep resisting that change.
08:19This is subtle violence towards the teacher.
08:25That which could have been easily done is turned into a humongous task by you.
08:36And the result is that the teacher has to put in 20 times his energy than is needed.
08:45You are extracting 20 times the time, effort and energy than should have been really needed.
08:56This is your subtle retaliation.
09:01You are saying, Sir, you are destroying my world.
09:09I will destroy yours.
09:11You have turned my life into a hell.
09:18Do you think I will let you sleep in peace?
09:24I won't.
09:27And due to your innate morality, you cannot be, as I said, explicitly disrespectful or violent towards the teacher.
09:41So you try hidden, crooked, subtle ways.
09:57Whether your ways are gross or fine, the intention is the same.
10:10I will have my pound of flesh.
10:17You cannot so easily defeat me.
10:20Even if I have to go down, I will go down fighting.
10:27If you love me so much, come on, invest more energy on me.
10:34Give me more time.
10:41If you love me so much, then bear all my tantrums.
10:46We know that, right?
10:52Convince me that you love me enough for me to forsake all that I have.
11:02You are asking me to give everything up.
11:05Why should I give everything up for the sake of a non-lover?
11:09And now comes the real revenge.
11:12You have asked me to quit all my attachments.
11:16I will respond by getting attached to you.
11:23That's the mama revenge.
11:27The mother of all revenges.
11:30You asked me not to be very body identified.
11:37I will look at you as a body.
11:43Checkmate.
11:50That kind of thing cannot come but from a point of retaliation and hatred.
12:01It is such a fine retaliation that it may even appear like love.
12:31And now you must ask, why is then the Guru reciting the same prayer?
12:48Why is the Guru praying for the same thing?
12:54Why is the Guru saying, may I not hate the student?
13:02You must understand this.
13:11For the Guru's words to be useful to the student,
13:17the words must come directly from Samadhi.
13:22Do you get this?
13:26The Guru's words or actions cannot help you or take you to Samadhi
13:34unless they are coming directly from the Guru's Samadhi.
13:41And Samadhi is sheer joy.
13:46Sheer joy.
13:49It is the greatest sleep, the greatest rest possible.
13:55You could even say it is the highest pleasure.
13:59It is not really a pleasure in the sense we know pleasure.
14:03But just to facilitate your comprehension,
14:08it is the highest pleasure.
14:12It is a superlative pleasure.
14:15That's why the scriptures sometimes use the words Anand and Sukh interchangeably.
14:30That's where the Guru is residing.
14:33Where? In his abode of Samadhi.
14:38Total relaxation, deep sleep.
14:44But being in a mortal form, he too is subject to Prarabdha.
14:58After all, here when we are talking of the Guru and Shishya,
15:03we are talking of the mortal Guru, aren't we?
15:05We are not talking of the Param Guru.
15:08We are not talking of the Nirakar Truth itself.
15:12And the mortal Guru is bodily, isn't he?
15:17Because he is bodily, he too has to bear Prarabdha.
15:25Hence, he cannot enjoy his Samadhi without having to pay for his Prarabdha.
15:36He is told, you can stay in your Samadhi, but you will have to continuously pay the price.
15:44The price is that you will have to help others reach where you are.
15:52And if you do not help others reach where you are, you too cannot stay where you are.
15:59Help others.
16:06So the fellow has to speak.
16:10He has to speak from his Samadhi, but
16:15the speaking in itself can become an irritation.
16:36A load.
16:44Because after all, the speaking is necessitated because of Prarabdha.
16:50But then, remember that this narration is the next thing to nature.
17:11Narration is not nature.
17:15Narration of even God is not nature.
17:21Only God is nature.
17:24Narration of God comes second best.
17:29Comes next to God.
17:32And why must the Guru settle for the second best thing
17:37when he is already enshrined, embedded in the best?
17:48So in a sense, the Guru has to step down, come down.
17:54He has to relinquish his inner depths for a while.
18:08Can the truth be told?
18:11Not really.
18:13But the Guru is entrusted to do the impossible.
18:19He is made responsible to tell the truth.
18:35Now the truth cannot be told.
18:37You see, how difficult is the work of the Guru?
18:44Now from an easy place, when he is sleeping in the truth,
18:50he has been made to do an utterly difficult task.
18:54And what is that difficult task?
18:56Now come and narrate that which cannot be narrated.
19:04You were in utter Samadhi.
19:09Now wake up and narrate the Samadhi.
19:12So double whammy.
19:14First of all, you wake up.
19:16And then you do the impossible.
19:19Guru is wondering, what crime have I done?
19:23Why am I being asked to do all this?
19:27Was I not already alright?
19:30I was gone, gone, totally gone.
19:33And I have been summoned back.
19:35And now I am being told to describe the place I had gone to.
19:41Now first of all, you have called me back, which is bad enough.
19:45And on top of that, you are asking me to describe where I have been to.
19:51Coming back is bad enough.
19:58And being asked to describe what you have seen is worse.
20:06That's the predicament of the Guru.
20:11You would understand why he would face a certain irritation.
20:19It's just that his compassion overrides his irritation.
20:28But one should never underestimate Maya.
20:35Sometimes it may happen that irritation can get the better of compassion.
20:41And then one would not know who is the Guru and who is the student.
20:47Both are then hateful of each other.
20:53So it is wise and prudent that the Guru too must keep praying.
20:58Oh Lord, let me not hate the student.
21:16Here are mothers.
21:26Suppose the mother is a Ph.D.
21:29And she is doing some utterly important research work.
21:36And she is a Ph.D. in the languages.
21:44Her doctorate is in the languages.
21:48She is an utter master of the languages.
21:53And then there is the kid.
21:56And the kid does not know the difference between you and we.
22:08And the mother is being asked to teach the kid.
22:12Not only teach the kid, teach the kid while keeping aside her research work.
22:20Just see what she was doing.
22:25Just see what she was doing.
22:29What was she doing?
22:30Research work.
22:33And now she has been told to handhold the child.
22:40And help him draw a C.
22:43And the fellow is drawing a C like this.
22:45Continuously.
22:46Mothers know that.
22:47Kids are very fond of drawing mirror images of the letters.
22:56So the D is always like this.
23:03Mothers don't know what to do with this.
23:05Now you know why the mother must pray to God.
23:08Let me not hate the kid.
23:38Clear?
24:00You think that?
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