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Discipline and dedication - are they really virtues? || Acharya Prashant (2017)
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10/29/2024
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Video Information: 6th Myth Demolition Tour, 3.3.17, Rishikesh, Uttaranchal, India
Context:
~ What is discipline?
~ What is discipleship?
~ How to gain clarity?
~ What is dedication?
~ Is being disciplined really helps?
Music Credits: Milind Date
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I might be a very violent man and my goal is to blast a building off.
00:20
To learn how to do it, I have to live through stern discipline.
00:30
I'll have to build my body.
00:34
I'll have to learn several skills.
00:39
I may have to have the discipline to learn a new language if the building is in a foreign
00:44
country.
00:48
I'll need to learn the skill of dodging officials and police.
00:52
I'll need training in firearms and all of that will require discipline and all that
00:57
discipline may ultimately train me to be successful, to achieve my goal.
01:05
But what is the goal?
01:07
The goal is violence.
01:10
When you will look at me just before I'm going to set out for my mission, you will say, wow,
01:21
what dedication this man has shown, what great discipline he has submitted himself to.
01:32
My body will look good, like the body of a yogi.
01:41
My mind will be focused on its goal, there would be no other thoughts.
01:46
So there would be a certain calmness on my face.
01:50
I would be assured, self-assured that I'm going to achieve my target, the building is
01:55
going to disappear tomorrow, hence I would be gently smiling.
02:01
And if you look at me, you might say, wow, what a spiritually advanced soul, look at
02:08
his body, no trace of fat, look at the face radiating with bliss, look at the composure,
02:18
what great certainty coming from God himself.
02:23
But what is the goal?
02:25
The goal is violence.
02:32
Discipline and struggle are no virtues by themselves.
02:39
No discipline has any virtue if that discipline is serving a self-created goal.
02:49
The most marauding armies were sometimes also the most disciplined armies.
02:59
The most greedy of men are also sometimes the most disciplined of men because greed
03:05
requires that kind of discipline.
03:12
You might have dedicated yourself to any discipline.
03:17
You may have modeled your body and mind according to the rigors of that discipline.
03:23
But mind you, it is you who are doing it with all that you stand for.
03:31
This discipline will never take you beyond yourself.
03:37
Then there is another discipline, which is the right kind of discipline.
03:45
You know the word discipline is very closely related to discipleship, discipline, discipleship
03:54
and discipleship means to follow, to be a student.
04:03
Whom does one follow?
04:07
To whom does one let himself be a disciple?
04:11
To that which is bigger than oneself, right?
04:15
You just don't follow anybody or do you?
04:17
If you follow someone smaller than yourself, then you are essentially following but yourself.
04:23
Hence real discipline is about submitting yourself to that which is far, far bigger
04:29
than you, that which really qualifies to be your guru, your teacher.
04:35
That which you call by no names and also by an infinite variety of names.
04:42
Real discipleship is surrender and in that you do not follow any particular pattern of living.
04:54
You must have heard the name of Kabir and he beautifully said,
05:04
माला फेरू, न जप करू, मुझ से कहू न राम, सुमिरन मेरा हरी करें, मैं पाहू विस्राम।
05:16
He says, I have left behind all kinds of spiritual activities and disciplines.
05:23
Neither do I recite the holy name, nor do I entertain myself with the beads.
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I have left all of that behind.
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I don't even try to have the discipline of remembering God or truth.
05:46
Now God remembers me.
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I do not remember God.
05:52
This is real discipleship.
05:54
I have let go of everything that came from my sense of accomplishment and fear.
06:04
Now I let myself be guided by existence itself.
06:13
Now I am a real disciple.
06:20
Now I listen as one listens to the teacher.
06:25
Now I see as one looks at the teacher with reverence, with love, with submission, with
06:37
trust and in looking I learn and in listening I learn and that learning is continuous.
06:52
Every sound tells me something.
06:55
Every experience teaches me something beyond the experience.
07:03
That is real discipleship.
07:06
That is discipline and that discipline is not a part of life.
07:11
That discipline is life itself.
07:12
Then you do not say I am disciplined.
07:17
Then you just say I live and that living itself is discipleship.
07:22
If you are disciplined, then you are imposing a discipline upon yourself and that is cruelty.
07:29
Every child knows that to be put under discipline is something not likable.
07:38
Did you like discipline when you were subjected to it as a kid?
07:44
It is that kid that you have to return to, the kid who does not like external discipline.
07:49
When you do not remain subjugated under external discipline, then something from the heart
08:00
rises and that is a great discipline.
08:02
To the world it may look like randomness and anarchy.
08:08
To the world it may look like chaos, but even if it is a chaos, it is a holy chaos.
08:16
Even if it is random, that randomness has a great divinity in it.
08:20
It has an order that is beyond the comprehension of the human mind.
08:27
It is not disorderly.
08:28
Human eyes will call it disorderly.
08:30
It is not disorderly.
08:33
It is a great order that you do not need to even comprehend.
08:38
You can just let it be.
08:40
You can just let it play itself out.
08:45
It is such a great order.
08:47
But we like to know what is happening to us, right?
08:50
We live in consciousness, we like to live in control, we want to be masters of our fate.
08:56
So we want to know in advance, please tell me what is happening to me.
09:01
Those who want to be assured of what is happening to them will only get that which they can
09:10
know of and that is so very little, so major, so insufficient to quench your thirst.
09:21
Those who are prepared to trust and let go, those who are prepared to not to count what
09:29
they are getting, get that which cannot be counted.
09:35
If you keep counting what you are getting, you will only get that which is within counting.
09:46
If you keep counting the numbers, all you will get is that which is numerical.
09:52
I'm asking you, is love numerical?
09:55
Is joy quantifiable?
09:59
But we like to count.
10:00
We like to be assured.
10:03
Delight in discipleship lies in not knowing the target and also not knowing whether you
10:10
are reaching the target.
10:14
You delight then lies not in accomplishment, but in discipleship itself.
10:22
I love you so much that it is a pleasure beyond pleasures just to follow you.
10:29
I love you so much that I don't care where your advice is taking me.
10:34
I love you so much that even if your advice is bringing me to my ruin, what a lovely ruin
10:44
it is.
10:45
Can I be ruined twice?
10:46
Can you give me another death please?
10:55
This is real discipleship.
10:59
This is not the discipline of waking up at 5 am and rushing off with your yoga mat, please.
11:06
And kindly do not call that as discipline.
11:08
That is the discipline of the tank and the submarine.
11:11
There too you have to stick to strict timelines like in a Japanese factory.
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