00:00Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister.
00:03The issue of cyberbullying and slander is becoming more and more widespread on social media.
00:09I am interested in two things.
00:12First, I understand that Australia has banned children under 16 from social media
00:20as a step to moderate content so that our young people are not affected by slander, misinformation, etc.
00:31And maybe as a suggestion, a step that the Ministry can consider,
00:38as one of the steps to prevent with permission,
00:46we can force those who want to register for social media,
00:52any platform, like TikTok, Facebook, etc.,
00:55they are required to give their full name, real name, and IC and contact.
01:02Thank you, Ms. Bukit Pendera.
01:03I take seriously what was said by Mr. Bangi and Ms. Bukit Pendera.
01:11Indeed, at this time, we, the government and the MCMC,
01:16cannot direct platforms to download any content.
01:21And I have repeatedly said in this noble court that
01:25the downloading action was taken by the platforms themselves
01:29after receiving a complaint from the MCMC which was extended to them
01:34and they made a complaint that the content broke the standard community or their guidelines.
01:41This means that it cannot be denied that there are a number of content
01:45that may violate the laws in our country,
01:48but the platforms do not take action on various grounds.
01:52Often, the platforms feel that they do not need to be responsible.
01:56They do not feel responsible for slandering their own parliament
02:01because they feel that they are supranational, more than any other country,
02:06and often, this is the challenge that we face.
02:09But the government does not want to first block any social media platforms.
02:14That, with permission, sends the wrong message.
02:16That is not our intent.
02:18We want the people to benefit.
02:19And it is clear that these platforms are used a lot for improvement and development.
02:25And many have seen an increase in their economy and livelihoods.
02:30They can get a better education if it is used well.
02:34Our problem today is that crime has migrated to social media
02:41and the failure of social media platforms that have 8 million or more users in Malaysia
02:47to be firm with these criminals is what we are most worried about.
02:54Recently, I gave an example.
02:56There were several users on the platform X
03:00who said that there were pedophile groups on Facebook
03:05with very bad names.
03:08Children of women in undergarments.
03:11And in this group,
03:14Madam Speaker,
03:17in this group on Facebook,
03:20there were hundreds of people,
03:22there were tens of thousands of people.
03:24So when I called META to meet me,
03:28they gave me all kinds of excuses.
03:30They did not want to be listened to.
03:32Or they wanted to be punished.
03:35Or all kinds of excuses.
03:38But with permission, when we confront them with this reality,
03:42when we show them that this is what is happening,
03:45they will only move once we hit them.
03:52That should not be the way.
03:54So we want to see, not in the direction of moderation with permission,
03:59but curation.
04:01Meaning, we hope,
04:03if the government has established content like this,
04:06it is not reasonable for Malaysians to watch or use or be involved in the platform.
04:13The platform is the one that takes more proactive action to solve it.
04:18Regarding the issue,
04:20indeed,
04:22different countries have different ways.
04:24And if Bukit Bendera raises the issue of Australia,
04:28they want to pass a law that prohibits children under the age of 16
04:34from using social media.
04:36Actually, today,
04:38social media platforms do set age limits.
04:42At least 13 years.
04:44WhatsApp, 16 years.
04:46Do you know,
04:48children under the age of 16 are not allowed to use WhatsApp?
04:51They are not allowed to use WhatsApp.
04:53According to WhatsApp's own guidelines.
04:56But what is being done by WhatsApp, for example,
04:59to prevent, to assert that the user is indeed over the age of 16?
05:06What is happening?
05:07I recently,
05:09Madam Speaker,
05:11received a complaint.
05:13One of the children,
05:15it is not known who the children are,
05:20has contacted their teacher,
05:22asking for a different picture.
05:26These children are under the age of 16.
05:29It is estimated to be around 10-11 years old.
05:32This is what is happening,
05:33and we are not sure how far,
05:36because one of the unique things about WhatsApp is
05:40that it is end-to-end encrypted.
05:43Only when one party complains,
05:46can we see what is happening,
05:49if they bring their person to be investigated.
05:53But when we inform the meta party,
05:56which controls WhatsApp,
05:58they do not take actions that are too proactive.
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