00:00Well, Rishi brought it in and the previous bill is slightly different that we voted on
00:05earlier in the year from this one because I understand that this will have a few outdoor
00:08smoking bans. So, I would say we're likely to have a free vote as we did last time because
00:14there are some very strongly held views on this. In particular, when we start to impose
00:19bans outside, a lot of my colleagues have real concerns about the freedom and freedom
00:24of decisions and personal responsibility elements there. Of course, it has to be balanced with
00:28the health impacts. So, I'll be looking at the details as well on this before making
00:33my mind up and I suspect we'll have colleagues who vote different ways. My personal instinct
00:38is more broad in that direction, but it needs to be finely balanced. We do need to make
00:43sure that the government doesn't do everything and tell everything. We do need an element
00:47of personal responsibility and actually that is good for long-term health outcomes. If
00:51everybody believes that the government will do everything for them, then we can all behave
00:55in a way that actually isn't necessarily good for our own individual health. So, there's
00:58real elements here of genuine concern and balancing out that business impact versus
01:04the health impact. In particular, I understand that the government's not proposing now to
01:10put in the ban in pubs because that would have been really harmful to the hospitality
01:13industry which is still recovering from the pandemic. So, I'd say if that was still in
01:18there, I would have had great difficulty supporting it because, again, probably gone a bit too
01:22far. So, I'll look at the details of this proposal and as I say, my colleagues will
01:26on our benches as well.
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