00:00The victim turned out to be the former owner of the hotel, the body of Maria Rosa Estefaní,
00:05found among the rubble, while they continue, in a denuded way and with great rigour,
00:11the search for the other six missing.
00:14But Ale Pueblas is working live. Ale, it's a pleasure to greet you.
00:18Good morning. What can you tell us?
00:22Guille, how are you? Good morning. And the moment is critical.
00:24Every minute now is of utmost importance.
00:28They are speeding up the work because when they found Rosa's body in the same room,
00:34in the same, so to speak, the same functional unit,
00:39there was Nahuel and his partner.
00:42Well, there is something confirmed by the aerial images.
00:47That the hotel turns and falls.
00:51Because the balconies were looking the other way.
00:54In the image you can clearly see the balconies turning.
00:58And that makes you notice, well, the story of Adriana,
01:02the neighbor who was saved by a miracle,
01:05that she says that there was, let's take this balcony as an example,
01:09which has sticks, do you see it?
01:12Well, she says that those sticks were windows,
01:15that that balcony was armed like this and that each separation was a window.
01:20Well, that they had removed the windows to put a mega-window.
01:26Or to open that place, to make it open.
01:29Well, they believe that in that place the collapse could have begun
01:34in something that was not enabled.
01:36Because having fallen from that place,
01:39the building can take a turn for how it was built.
01:43Well, the truth is that, look, what they are throwing in this container,
01:48the woods and those rubble are part of the kitchen
01:54of what is the department of Rosa.
01:56They are on that floor.
01:58They are entering there.
01:59Then they made several tunnels to enter.
02:02In the tunnel fits a person, Guille.
02:04Well, some are in danger of collapse.
02:07They stamped some places.
02:09It is no longer safe to be in those places.
02:11As they are removing rubble, the collapses,
02:15the mini-collapses happen.
02:17And that is what also puts the life of the rescuers at risk.
02:20Of course.
02:21Can the machines already work in the rubble?
02:24Ale?
02:26Yes, yes, they have changed the crane.
02:28And not over.
02:29Yes, at a distance, like the crane they have brought,
02:32which reaches to lift twice the weight of the one that was.
02:36You will see, suddenly, almost entire walls coming out,
02:40hanging with this crane,
02:43which they are depositing on the opposite side
02:46and the others, in this truck, are removing the building
02:49by the Medamar terrain,
02:52which they are trying to remove all the rubble out there.
02:55What they are taking out is weight to the tunnels,
02:57to be able to continue entering those tunnels
03:00and see how low they can get to find life.
03:03Guille.
03:04So far, and it must be said,
03:06hope continues, but no beats have been heard.
03:09In line with what Alejandro just said.
03:11Silence, ask for silence.
03:12Wait, wait.
03:13Sorry, sorry.
03:14Ask for silence.
03:15Enter the probe.
03:16Enter the probe at this precise moment.
03:18All machines are turned off.
03:20What I was telling you is happening live, Guille.
03:23They are entering, they are entering with the probe
03:27to one of the tunnels.
03:28Ask for a lot of silence.
03:29They are entering with the probe to one of the tunnels.
03:32You can whisper.
03:34In those tunnels, that probe is like a stethoscope
03:38that can detect beats.
03:41Exactly.
03:42Clear moment.
03:43That's why this silence.
03:44Let's remember, when Ale Pueblas,
03:47who is doing an excellent job there,
03:49was talking to us about the nephew,
03:51which is Nahuel José Estefanik,
03:54the nephew of María Rosa,
03:56and his partner, Ana de Simone,
03:58who are still missing
04:00and are being searched in this rescue operation.
04:03And this silence that itches your skin
04:05also has to do with their search
04:07in a place where, unfortunately,
04:09they found María Rosa's body.
04:11And the people who worked there are...
04:13Dos albañiles.
04:14Dos albañiles.
04:15They already talked to the prosecutor,
04:17Diego González and Miguel Choque.
04:19Based on what Alejandro just said,
04:20how the building fell,
04:21I am talking to one of the architects in charge,
04:24not of the work that collapsed,
04:26but of the work in front,
04:27of the famous work of the elevator,
04:29whose name is Marta Schneider.
04:30I'm insisting that she doesn't want to talk.
04:32But there was a work of an elevator.
04:33And that work was completed and finished.
04:36The elevator was not placed,
04:37but the roof was made.
04:38What the architect says is that
04:40her work has nothing to do
04:41with this work that fell.
04:43What does the architect tell me?
04:45What details does she give me?
04:47Alejandro just said something.
04:49How did it fall?
04:51What she says is that
04:52they touched material
04:54or vital structure
04:55of the right side of the building,
04:57apparently making the openings.
05:00They touched, or they would have touched,
05:02beams or columns.
05:04Columns, of course.
05:05Because, as Ale describes it,
05:08it turns around.
05:09Of course.
05:10Evidently, you touched,
05:12you could touch a column
05:13so that that turn,
05:14so that it is explained,
05:15has to do with the fall to that side.
05:17She gives me the example of a yenga,
05:19where two or three slabs
05:21of the side are touched
05:23and it falls to the side.
05:24She tells me,
05:25it didn't come down like the Twin Towers,
05:26it fell first down
05:28and then to the side.
05:30And what the prosecutor is trying to determine
05:32today is the responsibility
05:34that the architects have,
05:35who today do not transcend the name.
05:37Two architects,
05:38they would be from the Mar del Plata area,
05:40in terms of the disposition of this work.
05:42But they don't have it,
05:43they are taking care of it.
05:44They are taking care of it.
05:45They are taking care of it.
05:46That's why I mentioned Marta Schneider
05:48and she contacted me personally
05:50to tell me,
05:51I am at the disposal of the prosecutor.
05:53I talked to her,
05:54she investigated her,
05:55put her cell phone at her disposal
05:57and other test elements for her.
05:59She says,
06:00she only did the elevator.
06:01Then the back work,
06:02which should have had a work sign
06:04and didn't have it
06:05because it was only for cladding and openings,
06:08they went further and touched columns and beams.
06:12And that caused it to come down
06:14from one moment to the next.
06:15It is obviously all preliminary information
06:17that I am receiving,
06:18it is not proven.
06:19But surely Ale has more data from there.
06:24Yes, what they explain is wrong.
06:26And I am looking for some material
06:28to make it graphic.
06:29Let's do it like this.
06:31A football goal.
06:32Yes?
06:33If I am putting weight on the football goal,
06:36the structure is not that it falls like this,
06:38but the posts,
06:39this is the football goal,
06:40the posts will turn to one side
06:42or they will fall for one or the other, okay?
06:44These posts will be either like this or like this.
06:47Okay?
06:48It's his bridge.
06:49If I come from there,
06:50he focuses me and I say from there.
06:52His bridge is there in Tabica,
06:53here is another,
06:54holding.
06:55And I put weight on this.
06:56There are two options.
06:57That this breaks
06:59and there it would have fallen
07:01to the side
07:03or that this column
07:06that is here
07:07plus a column that should be here
07:10plus all the ones that were in the middle,
07:12if I take the one in the middle and leave the one at the tips,
07:15what it does is that it can slide.
07:17Yes? It slides.
07:18Well, that slide is what would have caused the rotation.
07:22We are talking about two bursts.
07:24A first burst,
07:25which could have been the explosion of the columns
07:27in the cement and the rotation.
07:28A first burst and automatically a tremor.
07:31Well, broken because those two pillars fall.
07:35You can see that the balconies are pointing to the other side
07:38and there it begins to decrease.
07:40Why does it also end up falling
07:42on the building next door in the middle
07:44where a 84-year-old fatal victim and the lady were found
07:48because the water tank was full?
07:50Of course.
07:51That generated the weight
07:52for the floors above to come to that side
07:54and end up crushing the other construction in the middle.
07:58And now, Guille,
08:00a detail that was known just a few minutes ago.
08:03How did they rescue this woman?
08:05How did they get the body of this man?
08:07Embraced.
08:09The man throws himself on top of his wife,
08:11embraces her,
08:13the man apparently kills him,
08:15a beam falls on him,
08:17and he, embracing his wife, protects...
08:20He saved his life.
08:21The lady who is in the hospital today.
08:23Yes.
08:24Between the mattress and the man,
08:26they found this woman's body.
08:29Well, Ale, thank you very much for this.
08:32We know that there will be a press conference
08:34by the lawyers who represent the victims,
08:37the families who were there.
08:39Is that right, Ale?
08:42Yes.
08:43We don't know the time, we don't know the place.
08:46They are going to create an explanation.
08:48I estimate that they will wait
08:50for us to have...
08:51Pierre and Burlando.
08:52Burlando represents...
08:53...the six people,
08:54five people who are trapped in the rubble.
08:57He represents Josefa Bonassa,
08:59who is the person who survives.
09:01Yes.
09:02And the rest of the family
09:03would be represented by Pierre.
09:05We are trying to talk to them
09:06so that they can give us something.
09:08Today, the cart was swallowed up by fire.
09:10Here comes Nahuel's mother.
09:12Sorry to interrupt you and cut you off.
09:14Look, here she is,
09:15she is going to show you, Diego,
09:16that she did the same way her son did.
09:19His son was fishing,
09:20he crossed this street for the last time
09:22and entered the building minutes later,
09:25what we know so far.
09:26Well, she came to do the same way.
09:29Look at the sky, pray, look at the crane.
09:32Why?
09:33Because from one moment to the next,
09:35they will have to inform her
09:36that her son is between the rubble
09:38and that he has no life
09:40or that his son may be in a lung of life,
09:43his heart is still there
09:44and they can take him out alive.
09:46Well, here is this woman being contained
09:48and trying to make the minutes,
09:50which seem like years,
09:51be more bearable.
09:53Sure.
09:54Thank you, Ale,
09:55see you in a few minutes.
09:56See you later.
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