00:00It's the complete feeling that her life is changing.
00:03You haven't even heard a fly, you're a good person.
00:10Am I?
00:16Catherine Ravenscroft is a telejournalist,
00:19very well respected.
00:22But this novel paints her in a completely different light.
00:26My character didn't know how to even process
00:28or explain to herself or to other people
00:31what had gone on all those years ago.
00:34When something that you've put behind you
00:36comes back right in front of your face,
00:40I think the layers of shock
00:42and then the inability to unpack it
00:44becomes a moment of crisis.
00:47So many things are happening inside Catherine.
00:50The judgment of herself,
00:52the inability to speak up,
00:54the judgment of herself,
00:55the fear of how her family is going to be perceiving her,
01:00but also the complete feeling that her life is changing.
01:06Catherine!
01:08It's about me.
01:09I thought it would be a fascinating journey
01:11to play a character who is such an enigma
01:15and exists more in people's judgments
01:18than she does in her own right.
01:21I got attracted to Disclaimer
01:23because the story is told in different voices.
01:28This is a story about two couples
01:30and their respective sons.
01:34There are maternal, paternal tensions,
01:38and every character has an agenda.
01:41Robbie, I'm not a good wife,
01:42and I feel like I have been a terrible mother.
01:45That's absolute nonsense.
01:46I know I've had it so hard to live with myself.
01:48Robert, Catherine, and Nicholas,
01:50they have a pathological rhythm going on there.
01:53A functional one, you know?
01:55Yeah, functional, but in which Catherine
01:57has a problem relating with Nicholas.
02:00Don't you want to be independent?
02:02That's what you want to tell yourself, Mum.
02:05But at the same time,
02:07everybody's playing a role in that relationship.
02:10I've read this.
02:10I enjoyed it.
02:11You've read it, too?
02:12Yeah, it's pretty good.
02:15What, you've read the whole thing?
02:16Yes, I did finish it.
02:17I do read, you know.
02:18Oh, no, no, I didn't read it.
02:19Come on, Nick, we admire you, mate.
02:21Being in a dysfunctional household,
02:22you can be directed by, you know,
02:24narcissism and gaslighting,
02:27and everything that is toxic.
02:29Now, parents, that hasn't been resolved within themselves
02:32is then kind of adopted by the child's perspective.
02:35So, why?
02:36Why?
02:36Because it must be shit if I liked it.
02:37No, no, I just want to know.
02:39We know what you think.
02:40Anyone who says that your children don't soak it all up,
02:44they do.
02:45They soak up tensions, atmospheres, apart from language.
02:50Would you please just tell me, you know,
02:51what were you having to do?
02:52Jesus, she dies.
02:54It was pretty enjoyable, too.
02:55She deserved it.
02:56She was a selfish bitch.
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