00:00Hi, I'm Levi with At Pride on Instagram. Great to see you. You're both amazing.
00:05Javier, first, Jose Menendez is often painted as the architect of his family's trauma. Based on
00:11your research, preparing for the role, how do you think his actions shaped the tragic events that
00:18unfolded? And does his story reveal anything about hidden abuse among super successful families?
00:25Well, I think, yes, he was one of the main
00:29reasons the family was dysfunctional, as we know. And I think one of the things that
00:38this show brings into the picture and to knowledge is his own trauma, Jose Menendez's
00:44own trauma that was not faced. He wasn't able to face because of his education, the way he was,
00:51the way he grew, the way he was educated as a man, right? Man is a man and cannot show emotions
01:01and cannot show any weakness. And that creates a lot of harm itself. And I think investigating
01:11that part of him and that part of the show, it's a great thing and theme to bring and share with
01:19the audience so we can talk about it. There was a lot of abuse in my home growing up.
01:28I think I was drawn to that. What do you mean by that? Well, that women marry men like their
01:36fathers. I mean, not that Jose is that at all. It's just the way he carries himself. His presence
01:42is very masculine. Yes. But does Jose hit you? Oh, no, no, no, I don't. I hit the boys once or
01:49twice. I wholeheartedly support that, by the way. And Chloe, your character, Kitty, lived in a
01:58household filled with abuse and she remained silent about a lot of it. What do you think her
02:04silence tells us about the culture of denial and complicity in abusive families? And how does this
02:10affect that aspect of her life? How does that add to the tragedy of the story?
02:17I mean, I think it tells us a lot. I think we don't see a lot of these stories. I think it's
02:22important to help kind of normalize having conversations around these stories and lessening
02:29the taboo nature and the weight that these kinds of stories sell so people feel more comfortable
02:35coming forward if they are caught up in a cycle of abuse. I think there's so much shame around it
02:42that people are also like, I feel like Kitty, you know, just also didn't have any options,
02:48didn't know where to turn. And I think that's so often the case. And it's really tragic that
02:53people are afraid to reach out because they, you know, for, I mean, a myriad of reasons, I'm sure
03:00each case is its own. But, you know, I hope the show can help people maybe see something in their
03:07own lives and realize something is maybe not right and take, you know, some action.
03:13Did either of you feel conflicted taking on this role because they are real people, it's a real
03:17story, and you're trying to portray these human beings to the best of your ability accurately?
03:24No, I wasn't conflicted. I was very grateful to do so because that's what I love about my job,
03:31to try to understand where certain things are coming from in order for us to understand a
03:40little bit more about us and our dark sides and deal with it. So, yes, the themes are very delicate,
03:50but at the same time, it's a great opportunity to move forward with it and make it more,
03:59to pay more attention to certain things that are important in our society, like abuse and
04:06the sexual abuse and the abuse in childhood, physical or emotional or psychological. Those
04:12things need a lot of attention and a lot of care. Thank you. Thank you both very much for your time
04:17today. I really appreciate it. Good luck in that cabin out there. Thank you.