00:00And you did not open the envelope because you feel so uncomfortable. Do you confirm?
00:05Yes.
00:06And then recently you made mention, it was only once that I had this case with the ombudsman. Do you confirm?
00:13Yes, ma'am.
00:14And you also made mention that you wish to protect yourself. Do you confirm?
00:19Yes.
00:20And the reason, ma'am, is because you believe that that envelope is a bribe?
00:26Do you agree with me?
00:28Because otherwise, you will not appreciate the job as difficult.
00:34You will not be uncomfortable opening what you believe is allowance.
00:38You will not be thinking about the ombudsman case.
00:41You will not be thinking about protecting yourself.
00:44The reason why you are considering all these concerns is because you believe that the envelope is a bribe.
00:51Do you agree? Yes or no, ma'am?
00:58It's kind of a harsh word to use, bribe, because if…
01:05Or should I say it is a means to influence your decision being the hope?
01:14It could be.
01:16You said yes to that?
01:21You said it could be?
01:23It could be.
01:24I wish to manifest, Mr. Chair, that on the story, on the narration of the resource speaker about this envelope,
01:34she received and she refused to open until the same is donated from February 2023 to September 2023
01:45is a means actually to influence the decision of our resource speaker
01:52being the one who approved all the decisions of the BAC in behalf of the Deputy Secretary.
01:59Is that correct, ma'am?
02:06There was only one instance that I could recall.
02:10There was no one spoke to me about…
02:17Well, there was an instance where I tried to let a bidding lapse,
02:27but I ended up signing it because there was a protest.
02:42I'm not comfortable discussing it.
02:46But I wish to state for the record, Mr. Chair, that with the narration of our resource speaker,
02:54she earlier manifested that she believes that those envelopes are means to influence her decision as hope.
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