"Barrister Gohar, Omar Ayub Aur...", Salman Akram Raja Gives Inside News

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00:00How many affidavits do you have? Do you have 41 affidavits?

00:05Please correct us on record. Do you have 41 affidavits?

00:10I think there are 41 or at least 40.

00:14I have some doubts about one.

00:16But I have no doubts about 40.

00:1940 affidavits have been submitted.

00:20About whom do you have doubts?

00:24About whom do you have doubts?

00:27I have some doubts about one.

00:29But I have no doubts about 40.

00:31I have no doubts about 40.

00:33Sir, do you have an affidavit of Mubarak Zeb who circulated some names?

00:37Because most probably he will vote on the other side.

00:40And since he is independent, I have seen on his website.

00:44So most probably you don't have an affidavit of him?

00:48No, see these are the people who are beyond those 41.

00:53The Supreme Court had said that there are 41 members who submit an affidavit.

00:58And the PTI accepts that affidavit.

01:01So they will be considered as the MNA of the PTI.

01:04So those 41 are on one side.

01:06These names that are circulating, apart from that there are 8 people who do not come in the list of those 41.

01:14Nor do they come in the first list which is a list of 39 or 49.

01:19These are the people who include Warrister Gauhar, Umar Ayub Khan, Ali Asghar Khan.

01:24These are the people.

01:26These names are being circulated.

01:28And I am sure that this will also be proven wrong.

01:31This will not happen.

01:33There are 8 people in total.

01:35I have counted 3 of them.

01:37Warrister Gauhar himself, Umar Ayub Khan and Ali Asghar Khan.

01:41Now the issue is that those 41, the government says we consider them free.

01:45You have their affidavit.

01:47There will be a legal divorce on them.

01:51But these 8 people are declared independent.

01:54So if they vote on them as per their wish.

01:57Anyone can vote. I am not taking names.

01:59These are up for grabs.

02:01So will there be a divorce of 63 or 64 on them?

02:04Because the government probably needs 2 or 3 votes.

02:07They say they need 2.

02:09So if anyone is on this list, then there will be floor-closing.

02:14Look, I don't want to talk too much.

02:17These are assumptions.

02:19You can make assumptions.

02:21What will happen if 8 of 8 break?

02:23What will happen if 2 break?

02:25We don't know about Maulana at all.

02:27The talks we have had with him, the meetings we have had.

02:30I think he understands history.

02:32He understands politics.

02:34He knows where he is standing at the moment.

02:37In Pakistan's historical journey.

02:39So I don't think that the government's wish

02:41regarding Maulana will be fulfilled.

02:43I will come to that as well.

02:45I am saying this because they need 2 or 3 votes.

02:47Let's see where Maulana goes.

02:49So is this a list of both?

02:51No, no. They need 2 or 3 votes on this assumption.

02:53I will tell you.

02:55They are talking about 2 or 3 votes.

02:57They are doing it on the assumption that

02:59they have already got 8 votes for JUI.

03:01This is their wish.

03:03If they don't get these 8, then...

03:05I am not asking for more votes.

03:07I am just trying to understand the fine point.

03:09If you have the affidavit,

03:11you can get a divorce of 63-64.

03:13If you have these 8 people,

03:15you can get a divorce of 63-64.

03:17I am trying to understand the legal point.

03:19Not 63-64, but 63-A.

03:21You can't get a divorce of 63-A on independence.

03:23You can't get a divorce of 63-A on independence.

03:25You can't get a divorce of 63-A on these 8 people.

03:27If we talk about Maulana,

03:29we will meet him after a while.

03:31The government is very confident.

03:33They are saying that the negotiation

03:35between Maulana and the government

03:37to increase the age of Maulana

03:39will be shaved off.

03:41to increase the age of Maulana

03:43will be shaved off.

03:45They are very confident about Maulana.

03:47They have given assurance.

03:49They have talked to him on a tactical level.

03:53We will see why I am going.

03:55The first aim of all this was

03:57that the current Chief Justice

03:59should be allowed to work.

04:01should be allowed to work.

04:03should be allowed to work.

04:05If he does not work,

04:07and then he makes a second

04:09or third request to Maulana,

04:11and then he makes a second request to Maulana,

04:13and then he makes a second request to Maulana,

04:15then that is a different matter.

04:17I don't see his first aim

04:19being successful or accepted.

04:21I don't see his first aim being successful or accepted.

04:23We will see all the other things.

04:25When the evidence will come,

04:27then Maulana's reaction

04:29or the reaction of the JUI will be clear.

04:31I don't think that the JUI

04:33or Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman

04:35will have the power

04:37to appoint

04:39any of the five judges

04:41as the Chief Justice.

04:43Your institution will be completely

04:45deprived of the Supreme Court.

04:47We know that when the greed of a position

04:49or a shine comes in front of someone,

04:51it is unfortunate.

04:53On every level, people

04:55become a victim of that desire.

04:57become a victim of that desire.

04:59I don't think we should do this

05:01to the extent that

05:03the five senior judges

05:05should be told that

05:07the Prime Minister will be the Chief Justice.

05:09The ability to think,

05:11understand and decide

05:13should be left independent.

05:15It should not be subject

05:17to any restrictions.

05:19I don't think Maulana will agree to this.

05:21You will see that when the decision

05:23will be made,

05:25Maulana will understand

05:27at what point in history

05:29the politics of the Jamaat

05:31is based.

05:33I think this will be disloyal

05:35to Pakistan's constitution

05:37and judicial system.

05:39I am sure he will not disloyal.

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