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The Loud And Fast History of The Acacia Strain | Louder
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1 year ago
Singer Vincent Bennett and guitarist Tom Smith Jr talk us through the two decade and 10 album long career of The Acacia Strain.
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00:00
It feels like home.
00:07
Started the band, we just wanted to be a band.
00:28
We had no outlying goals, it was just playing music.
00:37
Local shows were like a thing.
00:40
For pretty much my entire teen years and into my 20s, there was a show every single Sunday.
00:46
We wanted to play music. We didn't care what it sounded like.
00:48
We didn't really necessarily care if people liked it, we just wanted to play it.
00:51
The internet wasn't really a thing, so regional music was big.
00:55
I took pride in being from where I was from, because music there sounded like it was from there.
01:07
We were listening to At The Gates, and Throwdown, and Every Time I Die.
01:10
We were listening to all of that, and we were trying to take it all in at once.
01:13
Our first record, if you listen to it, it's fucking terrible.
01:17
We were searching for a sound, and we just couldn't find it.
01:22
It was translated at the time, but I don't think it aged well.
01:30
It was a sign of the times kind of record, where everybody was trying to do crazy Dillinger stuff.
01:37
We just wanted to do things that all of the bands that surrounded us were kind of doing,
01:42
and we tried to do them all at the same time.
01:44
How about the follow-up, 3750?
01:51
Honestly, still, at that point, I don't think we knew what we were doing.
01:54
I really don't. We just wanted to be heavy.
01:57
That was the big thing in 2004. You just wanted people to march for your band.
02:02
You didn't care if they liked your music, you just wanted people to hit each other.
02:06
Nobody leaves here without getting hurt.
02:19
A lot of people still ask us to play songs off that record.
02:22
I think we played Car Bomb every single tour, still.
02:26
Last year we played it twice a set, as a joke, and people loved it.
02:32
I think 3750 was the first hinting at where the band was going.
02:38
You could hear that the band, production-wise, everything was all coming together in a very organic and slow way.
02:48
It was a very transitional record with the sonics of the band and the writing.
02:53
To me, the Deadwalk is the baseline of the band.
02:57
And 3750 and Life Is Very Long, those are the baby steps leading up to those.
03:16
2005 was a huge year for us.
03:18
When the Deadwalk came out, it kind of pushed us to the next level, I guess.
03:25
We started touring with hardcore bands, where we were the metal band.
03:31
And then we started touring with metal bands, where we were the hardcore band.
03:36
We just wanted to have fun. We still just want to have fun.
03:39
There's no delusions that we're going to be the next Metallica or anything like that.
03:42
2006 was a weird year for us.
03:45
We were playing in front of three people every day. No one gave a fuck.
03:49
Everyone's like, you should play more stuff off the Deadwalk, man. I love that record.
03:52
I'm like, where the fuck were you when we were playing in front of three people?
04:06
How did that feel to break into that Billboard Top 200 for the first time?
04:09
It was crazy. A lot of my friends and peers were like, this is your year.
04:14
When we recorded Continent, we kind of wanted to refine even further
04:19
and make it an even heavier record.
04:29
We kind of tried to have fun with it.
04:31
And when we were in the studio, we were recording all these videos
04:33
and trying to make people pay attention to us and putting stuff out on YouTube
04:37
because that was a thing that was finally available for bands.
04:40
Hey guys, I'm just doing vocals right now, so if you want to watch, we could hang out.
04:51
Stop, stop, stop. What the fuck is that shit?
04:54
What?
04:55
You're not even singing on key.
04:57
What happens if you're brutal?
04:58
That's fucking perfect.
04:59
Are you Celine Dion's little brother?
05:02
Basically, it's not very exciting.
05:04
This album is going to suck and you're not going to buy it.
05:07
But I appreciate you watching.
05:09
I was, what, 16, 15 years old when that record came out?
05:13
15. I actually just realized that I still have one of my Continent guitar picks from that tour
05:19
that just says I was 15 when Continent came out.
05:22
I can't take your fucking faces.
05:25
Go on and off the front of this place.
05:30
I don't really see the merit in flooding social media with your brand.
05:35
I was at a band's manager's apartment.
05:39
This man woke up at 5 a.m. and just went on MySpace,
05:45
just adding people to that band's MySpace for four hours.
05:50
Just adding, just friend requesting for four hours.
05:53
You know how many people that is?
05:54
That was his job to do that.
05:57
And it was the first time I ever saw it.
05:59
I was like, what the fuck are you doing?
06:01
Like, go on tour.
06:11
Wyrmwood is sort of considered the definitive record by the Ocarina of Time.
06:17
It's probably my favorite thing we've done.
06:20
As a band.
06:21
It's the first record that we have done where I don't mind going back and playing those songs.
06:29
It's funny because the production on that record is, I think, so good
06:35
because we told Zeus that the label hated the production on Continent.
06:39
And he had to like, he was like, what the, why are you fucking, fuck this shit.
06:44
I'm going to show them. I'll show them.
06:46
And he just like, he cranked it to 11 and really just like hyper focused.
06:59
Even 10 years later, I'm still proud of what we did with Wyrmwood.
07:03
And I still love playing every song off the record.
07:07
And it's really sad that we can't do a 10 year tour right now
07:13
because that's what we had planned.
07:15
We were going to do a whole ripper.
07:17
And now we can't.
07:35
This is Only Mortal 2012.
07:37
We can just skip this one.
07:39
What?
07:40
We don't have to talk about this one.
07:42
Okay, fine.
07:45
Left upon itself
07:48
There is no use to cry for help
07:54
Peaking at number 31 on the Billboard 200.
07:58
Coma Witch, that is an insane, that is an insane achievement in any era.
08:05
That's the one achievement in this band that I have physical evidence of
08:10
doing something that mattered, I guess.
08:12
It was the worst, one of the worst experiences of my entire life.
08:16
I'm like feverish.
08:18
I'm sweating through a sleeping bag.
08:21
I'm stressed out because I can't record.
08:23
And then I get a phone call from my wife saying she wants a divorce.
08:27
So then all of this other shit is happening.
08:30
So I'm like rethinking the lyrics for the record.
08:34
I'm rethinking, do I actually want to do this ever again?
08:38
Like it was a fucking, it was a nightmare.
08:41
Everything just compounding on top of everything else.
08:45
But the outcome is, I think at the time,
08:51
it was the most ambitious thing we'd ever done.
08:54
I feel like because I had such a terrible time,
08:58
we made such a atmospheric record.
09:04
The nerve of you to put a 28 minute long song in this genre of music is,
09:12
has anyone ever done that?
09:14
That record is the first one where I felt like I was almost watching a movie,
09:17
you know, like it, it really just laid this big playing field of,
09:21
here's, here's what I want to do,
09:24
here's what I want to do, here's what I want to do,
09:26
here's what I want to do, here's what I want to do.
09:28
You know, like it, it really just laid this big playing field of,
09:32
here's this new sound that we've found,
09:35
and we're going to go crazy with it.
09:43
Grave Bloom to me kind of is a spiritual successor,
09:46
or the sequel to Coma Witch, if you will,
09:49
or an addendum to that record.
09:51
Whole record's about me just quitting the band.
09:53
Like me just saying goodbye and being like,
09:55
I'm fucking, I'm walking away, I'm quitting while we're ahead.
09:58
I was still having a hard time with my life.
10:01
I was going through a lot of changes and a lot of different shit.
10:04
Like I lived with my mom for like 11 months
10:07
while I was trying to buy a house,
10:09
and I was sick of being on the road,
10:11
and I hadn't even told my band until after,
10:14
I didn't even tell my, tell you guys until like September.
10:17
Yeah.
10:18
After the record was out, after Warped Tour was done,
10:21
and I was like, yeah, I got a job,
10:23
I quit, I'm done, you guys can continue on if you want to,
10:26
I don't care, it's your band.
10:28
And they decided, no, we'll stop,
10:31
we'll all be regular people too.
10:33
And then like three months later, I was like,
10:35
what the fuck am I doing?
10:37
And that's kind of when all of the more positive changes
10:40
in my life started to happen.
10:43
And it's because I saw what life would have been like without it.
10:54
We should talk about It Comes In Waves,
10:57
which I know you guys have called an EP.
10:59
I call it a song.
11:00
Yeah, it's one song.
11:01
That album, that EP, that song,
11:03
whatever you want to call it,
11:05
sounds so different from anything else you've ever done.
11:10
I think it's a brilliant EP.
11:12
You know, like you said, with Coma Witch and Grave Bloom,
11:14
they kind of feel like brother and sister.
11:16
I think it's a brilliant album.
11:18
I think it's a brilliant album.
11:20
With Coma Witch and Grave Bloom,
11:21
they kind of feel like brother and sister.
11:24
I feel like this EP maybe would be the start
11:27
of the next chapter of what you guys go on to do.
11:30
And I suppose we've got to another new record.
11:42
But It Comes In Waves proves to us all
11:45
that we can do something different.
11:48
We can do what we want.
11:49
We can do something that's atypical of Acacia Strain
11:51
and people will still like it.
11:53
So just stepping over that threshold
11:55
kind of changed what we think we're allowed,
12:00
I guess, allowed to do.
12:02
I'm getting older.
12:03
I don't listen to the same music I did
12:04
when I started this band.
12:06
And neither do the people
12:08
who listened to this band back then.
12:10
Everybody's got different musical opinions now
12:12
and everybody's growing and listening to more adult music
12:14
or whatever you want to call it.
12:16
We're just changing with our fan base
12:19
and we're changing with the times
12:20
and you have to realize that like,
12:22
it's not 2002 anymore.
12:24
It's not 2010 anymore.
12:25
2010 might feel like it was yesterday,
12:27
but it was 10 years ago.
12:29
My intention with Slow D.K. was that
12:32
if I was a kid who doubted the band
12:35
and I was one of those kids like,
12:37
oh, they need DL,
12:38
this band isn't the same without DL,
12:40
that was my answer to it.
12:42
I'm going to challenge myself to take this sound
12:45
and make it updated and fresh,
12:47
but still feel like home for the older fans.
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