Rachel Mclish on 1984 Donahue Show

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00:00Good care of her body. Rachel, would you kindly step forward here for just a moment?

00:08Rachel

00:10You're you look like

00:13Most women want to look I'll tell you that

00:15Would you be good enough to pose for us while I tell them?

00:19This is this is Rachel McLeish

00:22Who has been a dancer for most of her life?

00:24She's been involved in bodybuilding for now for about eight years and has been competing for three and a half

00:29She has won every major title in women's bodybuilding. Not surprisingly

00:34She's the US champion in 1980 Miss Olympia in 1980 and 82 and the professional world champion in 1982

00:42She's always been interested in fitness and bodybuilding was a natural adjunct to this interest

00:54Rachel let me ask you a few questions

00:59You this is still America and you're free to decline to answer any questions I may ask you how old are you I'm 27 years

01:06old and

01:07I were you always athletic and into this or was this a yeah, when did this happen to you this interest?

01:14I've been weight training for eight years and I initially started because that was the quickest a sufficient way of getting me body

01:22I wanted

01:23You must feel real good about yourself and it must do a lot for your emotional

01:29I feel pretty good about myself because I've got pretty much total control over my physical being and that gives you quite a

01:37Feeling of control, right? How long do you spend in the gym? I mean, I should I assume you there daily

01:42I spend between four and six days a week. They're an average of an hour and a half and a half hour each session

01:49Oh, that's not too bad. It really isn't

01:52Inconsistent and

01:54Keeping it up all the time getting in shape is not an end

01:58It's something you always have to be on top of you have to commit yourself to it and then continue it from now on

02:04I assume you and you have a coach

02:07No

02:10My major is exercise physiology with a minor nutrition and so I feel I'm my own expert and I'm my own guinea pig as

02:17Well, right. Are you single Mary? I'm single

02:22Well, you must draw a crowd. I mean

02:28I don't all right. Let's go with some of the corny questions. Okay

02:32Some women are concerned that this will make muscles less than feminine and unappealing

02:37It's a paradox because I initially wanted muscles to make my body more feminine. I started out with a dancer's body

02:44I had enough

02:46Bulk in my legs, but my upper body was scrawny

02:48I figured if I had a v-shaped torso, it would make my waist look smaller

02:53But in order to get a v-shape in my back, I needed to add muscle

02:57So I have rounded out my shoulders and just added shape to my upper body to proportion

03:04You actually then divide your body up into areas and

03:08That's it. There's seven major body parts. There's the arms biceps and triceps. There's the chest

03:14There's the abdominals

03:16the quadriceps the biceps the leg biceps calves and

03:22An extra area for women is the buttocks because I really feel we need to pay special attention to that since we do carry our

03:30Center of gravity much lower therefore more fat collects there. So we train just like men, but I feel women should

03:38Pay special attention to the buttock area and it does pay off. Women have a lower center of gravity than men

03:50Well, I guess about time we'll wrap up this interview

03:54The have your breasts as your breast size and enlarge since you've worked

03:59Yes, and no during a competition the fat your fat percentage lowers dramatically the average fat percentage for women

04:07in America is 25%

04:09During competition it goes down to somewhere around 6%

04:13The mammary gland being mostly fat

04:16It's only natural for you to lose it there too, but I have increased the musculature

04:22That supports the mammary gland. So therefore

04:25The size under normal conditions and not contest preparation time. You're much bigger fuller more rounded with more support

04:34So you're more pronounced you have a more pronounced breast area for example in a strapless gown exactly

04:41So you can enhance the cleavage so to speak. Yes, you can even create a cleavage like I did

04:50Not with a wire brassiere, but with

04:55You could be able to count the sternum in my chest, but now

05:00There's actual flesh there on your body. You've got a choice. You've got bones

05:04You've got flesh and that flesh can be muscles or fat

05:09And muscles is what shapes your body

05:11What exercise does that?

05:24Which one

05:30Oh

05:35It's important to follow the muscle function

05:38According to the function it performs the function of the pectoral muscle is to bring your arm across the midpoint of your body

05:45So any movement that does this or this, you know, remember those bust?

05:50Developers that mark Eden brought out years ago. He was trying to follow the function of the pecs

05:56So nowadays there's Nautilus peck deck machines

05:59flies or at home you can pick up an old army booth and iron or

06:06Dumbbells and lay down and go forward

06:09Anything like that? I would need a bench for this

06:23Yeah, otherwise she'll have one well, you know what I mean

06:27I'm here to there

06:30from here to there and

06:34You can alter the angle or degree of development by having a slightly inclined

06:41Bench decline or a flatbed stand up with the handheld. Okay and come down and look down. Okay

06:46There you go. This way now we're gonna do it. Yes, ma'am

06:49This

06:54Is just women this is a fly you can also do presses which affect the pectorals which also affect the triceps

07:01Which is the back of the arms?

07:04The great thing about bodybuilding is that you zero in on specific body parts and exercise it

07:11According to however degree of development or tonus that you want

07:18In any event you have total control over what happens to your body your muscles don't magically grow overnight, which some people

07:24Tend to be afraid of are you naturally athletic person or were you in high school? Were you?

07:31You really are very gifted may we say that

07:34In anatomically speaking and then you're certainly very bright as well. But did you run or were you in track?

07:41I was always the dancer the cheerleader

07:44And I was always

07:46Active I went to college my first year and I didn't do anything

07:49I went home one day and my dad said that's not the legs

07:52I used to know and him being a man a few words

07:55I immediately went to a gym, but the first time in my life thought there were two what?

08:00Flabby, I mean I wasn't fat, but I lacked

08:04the vibrance the

08:06The tautness that I had as a youth

08:09Okay, I was 18 at the time. So I went to a health spa

08:13This is the first time I ever went into a gym and I immediately fell in love with the atmosphere

08:17There was chrome-plated equipment and dumbbells and barbells and I thought wow, look at these toys

08:23That give me a great-looking body. Not that the harder I worked the better my body responded

08:28Do you is that your natural skin tone?

08:31I'm tanned right now because all of us competed last week, but it's naturally

08:38I

08:42Rachel McLeish as we've established as the professional world champion of 1982. We once we want you to meet some other

08:49Young women who are also involved in this the activity of bodybuilding when we give this audience a chance to ask

08:54Could I do this too, and we hope you'll join us

09:04You

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