00:00Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker, reportedly threw her support behind walls.
00:05As we know, according to reports, she was the one leading the charge in getting President
00:11Biden to drop out of this election.
00:13So how much do you think her opinion really matters here?
00:16Oh, I think it matters.
00:19I think my view, just a personal view, is that she is the single most effective political
00:25strategist and politician in the Democratic Party, with the exception of Barack Obama,
00:30in the last 30 or 40 years.
00:31I mean, just look at what she's done.
00:33You can like her or not like her, but just look at what she's accomplished.
00:37So I think it matters.
00:39Do I think that Kamala Harris decides who she wants based on who Nancy Pelosi says?
00:46Probably not.
00:47But I do think you have to listen to Nancy Pelosi's sort of political ear, because I
00:51think that ear has been proven over the years to be very, very effective.
00:56But politicians, particularly when you're talking about a running mate, it's a very
01:01personal decision.
01:02I think we tend to analyze it based on do they agree on policy?
01:06Will they help in a swing state?
01:08And I think it's like that, too.
01:10I think politicians think like that to an extent.
01:12I also think it's kind of a personal decision.
01:15Can I campaign with this person for the next four months?
01:18If we win, can I deal with this person for the next four years sort of, you know, being
01:23my second in command, but probably wanting to take my job at some point?
01:27So it's a very, you know, it's it's politics is more relationship driven than I think we
01:31sort of give credit for.
01:33It's not just this dry, numbers driven conversation.
01:36A lot of it's about do I like this person?
01:40Do I think this person will support me in what I want to do?
01:42Do I think this person will help me win?
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