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00:00:00Well, a very good morning, Trinidad and Tobago. I'm Urvashi Tamari Ruknarain. Welcome to the
00:00:18Morning Edition. It's July 5th. It's Friday. Thank you so much for joining us. How are
00:00:24you spending your Friday? How are you spending your weekend? Now, we know that some schools
00:00:30closed yesterday. Some are due to close today, so we know that students are home on vacation,
00:00:38starting from, yeah, I'm hearing the celebration in studio, although we have no kids in the
00:00:41studio, but I'm hearing the celebrations. We're happy that kids will be home. They will
00:00:46be taking, yes, less traffic. That's right, Dougie, less traffic. Kids are at home, but
00:00:52just a cautionary word to parents, the Children's Authority, they always remind us that when
00:00:58children are at home during the vacation period is when we see a spike in some unpalatable
00:01:05events as it relates to children. We need to look out for any types of abuses. Do not
00:01:13leave children unattended and so on. Yeah, just let's try to plan some useful activities
00:01:21for them, ensure that they are supervised. I know some children will be off to summer
00:01:26camp. Let's hope that summer camp is not all books, at least not for SES students. Okay,
00:01:33we don't have summer camps. Vacation camps, yes, vacation camps. Our students could be
00:01:40actively engaged in non-academic areas, sports, little cooking series, different things, gardening.
00:01:50Let's get them more aware, more involved, and of course, more all around. So let's tell
00:01:56you what's happening in Trinidad and Tobago. For that, we go straight to the front pages
00:02:00of the Express newspaper. Let's deal with that picture first and foremost. Finally,
00:02:07Pan has been declared as TNT's national instrument. It's time to ramage, according to the Express
00:02:14newspaper. We see some beautiful smiling faces there of Nelson Street Girls RC School, their
00:02:22steel orchestra, and that would be during their 2017 performance of Single during the
00:02:28judging of the national school's panorama at their school, Nelson Street, Port of Spain.
00:02:35The tune was arranged by Dale MacDonald and that photo was by Robert Taylor. So congratulations
00:02:41to all members of the Pan fraternity, everyone who would have advocated for this thus far,
00:02:48and for us as a country. It's very important to us culturally to now have that national
00:02:59instrument. So it's a grave threat. Fitzgerald-Himes National Security Minister says that police
00:03:07are actively looking for 70,000 rounds of ammunition. Things happen. That was the response
00:03:15of National Security Minister Fitzgerald-Himes in the Senate yesterday when asked how the
00:03:20types of breaches in the Strategic Service Agency could have occurred under the watchful
00:03:27eye of government. Himes also said that government has not yet sought the assistance of its foreign
00:03:34allies in helping to track 70,000 rounds of ammunition purchased by the SSE and still
00:03:44unaccounted for. He said the police were actively looking for it. And this is very interesting
00:03:50given the numbers of murders, numbers of crime scenes when processed, we see casings or bullets
00:03:58marked with National Security markings, TTPS, and so on. So this is very concerning and
00:04:08obviously 70,000 rounds could cost 70,000 lives. Granny Charged with Husband's Murder,
00:04:17what is our country coming to? Privy Council, Tehane, New York, New York City, New York
00:04:28Punishment. We hear the TTRA appeal on July 18th, so that is a good news. We want a speedy
00:04:33resolve on this issue. So that date has been set, July 18th. And we would of course expect
00:04:40that judgment to be delivered shortly after. Historic pan move, and of course Beverly Ramsey-Moore
00:04:49says it's a time to celebrate pan and their fraternity is in a state of euphoria. On the
00:04:56On the law-making side of things, the bail bill was passed, but there was a warning from
00:05:03independent Senator Suniti Maharaj as senators give support.
00:05:09So to get the details of these stories and so much more, you've got to grab your copy
00:05:14of the Express newspaper now, head down to your newsstands, or you can log on to www.trinidadexpress.com.
00:05:22And it's also useful to check out their Facebook pages, they have their top stories there.
00:05:29So what's happening in sport?
00:05:30West Indies bowlers struggle against first class counties.
00:05:34That feature picture there, Murrays go down smashing.
00:05:40Britain Jamie Murray and brother Andy left in action during their first round doubles
00:05:45match against Australia John Pears and Ricky Hachikata, I hope I pronounced that correctly,
00:05:52at the Wimbledon Tennis Championships in London yesterday.
00:05:55Haynes gone CWI parts ways with lead selector and Brown John.
00:06:01Cricket West Indies director of cricket Miles Bascom revealed that incoming West Indies
00:06:06selectors on both the men's and women's side will be working under system of new and improved
00:06:13process.
00:06:14Bascom, a former combined campuses and colleagues and colleges and Wimbledon Islands batter
00:06:20made the disclosure during a news release thanking former West Indies captains Desmond
00:06:26Haynes and and Brown John for their tenures as lead selectors on the men's and women's
00:06:32side respectively.
00:06:33And we certainly hope to see some improvement in our West Indies cricket, you know, certainly
00:06:40after we've had all these regional discussions, carry come making their own pronouncements
00:06:47promising to supporters, West Indies supporters that things will be done as it relates to
00:06:53territorial boards.
00:06:54We've heard really nothing.
00:06:57They are still very curious allegations surrounding territorial boards.
00:07:03There seems to be really and truly little resolved there.
00:07:07So as a supporter myself, we really do hope that things do change.
00:07:11And the most talented players, the most talented youngsters are those who wear that flag on
00:07:19their shoulders.
00:07:20And they are those who make it on the field.
00:07:22Because sometimes when you see the team selected, at least locally, that is even youth teams,
00:07:28you know, you really wonder, is this what we have to offer?
00:07:31And you see a lot of names that may have should have been there that are not there.
00:07:37I did happen to see a youth team that was recently selected and I noted curiously that
00:07:45some well, some zones that have spoken out against the leadership of the TTCB, you hardly
00:07:56see players from those zones being selected to represent our country nationally.
00:08:01So we really certainly hope that some resolve is brought.
00:08:05And as I mentioned, the most talented youngsters are those who make it on the field.
00:08:10Well, it's now time to remind you of our Trinbigo, your nice feature to participate.
00:08:14It's very, very easy.
00:08:16You WhatsApp your videos and your images to that number on your screen, 737-3778.
00:08:22And we get to share it with the rest of TNT.
00:08:25And I find we're getting a lot of these pooey pictures, nice, scenic Trinidad and Tobago.
00:08:33This image was, of course, sent in to us by a viewer and we thank you so much for that.
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00:11:07Welcome back Trinidad and Tobago, so we're always pleased to be joined with Jai Liladarsingh.
00:11:25He's of course the coordinator of the Confederation of Regional Business Chambers.
00:11:29He's here to tell us how his association will be, among other things, assisting countries
00:11:35affected by Hurricane Beryl.
00:11:37I know Jai, thank you so much for joining us this morning.
00:11:42Good morning to you Urvashi and good morning to you in audience and to Trinidad and Tobago.
00:11:46So there's so much to talk about, the state of the SME sector in TNT, proposed sale of
00:11:51the refinery, of course a name that has been jumping up quite a bit is Naveen Jindal, relief
00:11:58to our CARICOM partners, and of course Rajiv Dipti resigning from the Supermarkets Association
00:12:05of TNT.
00:12:06When you came in just now, you did mention that there is a new government has been voted
00:12:12into, well Rishi Sunak basically is no more, and I'm not sure if you dabble into international
00:12:18politics there Mr. Liladarsingh, but your take on these current events.
00:12:25My take on the current events are very interesting, and there are two upcoming elections which
00:12:31will directly impact Trinidad and Tobago.
00:12:33First of all, it has been touted for a while that Labour was ahead of the Conservatives
00:12:40in England in the elections a few months ago, and the circumstances that was taking place
00:12:46in England is somewhat similar to Trinidad and Tobago.
00:12:49Economic decline, high inflation, business confidence continuously being eroded, of course
00:12:57Britain seemed to be on top of their crime situation, where we see Trinidad and Tobago
00:13:01produces a different story.
00:13:03What broke my heart at 3 o'clock this morning is to read a US State Department advisory
00:13:08telling people don't come to Trinidad and Tobago because of the high crime and terror,
00:13:12imagine that terrorism threat.
00:13:15I mean these things does not overwhelm the country at all.
00:13:20So we have two upcoming elections Urvashi.
00:13:23One is in Venezuela on July 28th, and then of course the November elections with the
00:13:28United States.
00:13:30It will have some telling impacts, in particular that you have government and particularly
00:13:35the Minister of Energy who is negotiating with the Venezuelan government requiring
00:13:40accessing the Dragon gas from the Dragon gas field, and just to let the audience know there
00:13:46are also two other very large gas fields west of Dragon gas.
00:13:51One is controlled by Russia, but there's another one that is free and maybe something
00:13:55Trinidad and Tobago could look at in the future.
00:13:58There's also the Loran manatee field, which is in our southern waters, although we own
00:14:02about 27% of that field, the Venezuelan owns the balance.
00:14:06But if we get those two fields up and running and extracting gas, we could have point the
00:14:11SAS industrial estate and the Atlantic LNG for trains running at full capacity for 100
00:14:19years.
00:14:20That is very good news for Trinidad and Tobago in terms of gas economy.
00:14:25And I think that this is a focus that we need to go with in tandem and a similar track
00:14:34with boosting the other sectors of the economy.
00:14:37So we go to the state of the SMEs.
00:14:41Before we move further, Mr. Lillardassing, I have a quick question for you.
00:14:45Now, we know that the confederation, some of your members at least, have been greatly
00:14:49impacted by the closure of what was Petrotrin, those train line communities and so on.
00:14:57A lot of people have been impacted who are in close contact with you.
00:15:01Does it matter to you, essentially, who runs that refinery or is it just a case of let's
00:15:07get it back up?
00:15:10It's a complicated question.
00:15:13It doesn't require that much of a simple answer, but let me make it clear.
00:15:16The government has a very big asset where it needs to start up and operate.
00:15:22And if it is that Mr. Jindal is offering something very good, something very tangible, U.S. dollars
00:15:28for the procurement of the refinery, by all means, the government follow all its processes.
00:15:34I don't know where any procurement after that has to fall under unless it is exemptified
00:15:40and government needs to explain that exemption, that's fine.
00:15:45It should be, a sale or transaction should be entertained.
00:15:49I caution on one thing, and you asked an excellent question about businesses being impacted by
00:15:54the closure of refinery.
00:15:55A lot of businesses, contractors, service providers, and so on, have closed down.
00:16:00Some operators are very, very diminished rate.
00:16:02Some are looking for work up in Caricom, Guyana.
00:16:06A lot of players are in Guyana and in Suriname.
00:16:11Once the sale of the refinery is being entertained and contracts are being drawn up, there must
00:16:17be a clause on local content.
00:16:19I want to be very clear about that.
00:16:22So therefore there are certain type of books, supplies, services, other type of business
00:16:29transactions that the refinery will need to outsource.
00:16:34I think there must be local content where companies within Triantafego should provide
00:16:40these services first.
00:16:43A lot of contractors, I mean, I'll give an example.
00:16:45Many of the cranes in Paramount Transport and Junior Assembly Construction were used
00:16:51for the maintenance of the refinery operation.
00:16:54That's just one example.
00:16:56Engineering services, consultancy services, training and development for staff, medical
00:17:01services were there.
00:17:03The Augustus Long Hospital had some of the best doctors in Triantafego could offer.
00:17:08So this is where I think the refinery could be a kickstarter for growth, especially within
00:17:14the central and southern communities.
00:17:16But it does not mean organizations within Port of Spain and other parts of Trinidad
00:17:21will not be able to participate in the refinery economic activities as well.
00:17:27So that is very important.
00:17:30We are the confederation of chambers, we are not a court of law.
00:17:33Whatever issues have been brought up regarding Mr. Jindal, let the courts decide.
00:17:38We are not getting into that jurisdiction.
00:17:40Okay, but aside from the courts, do we just dismiss these allegations or claims of corrupt
00:17:46activities surrounding this particular individual?
00:17:50I'm not saying to dismiss it.
00:17:52It needs to be explained and we are prepared to give the Prime Minister the benefit of
00:17:57the doubt that maybe he really didn't know.
00:18:00I went into Wikipedia and I looked him up and I read a very short paragraph about it.
00:18:06For what I have read, it seems like allegations.
00:18:09Again, I am not an attorney at law.
00:18:12But what we are saying is that, all right, let the Indian courts decide whether this
00:18:16person is guilty or not.
00:18:18A charge does not mean you are guilty, it just means you have something to answer to.
00:18:22That is all.
00:18:23And remember too, Mr. Jindal sits as a member of parliament in the current Indian government,
00:18:29part of the BJP coalition.
00:18:33So, he has a very high reputation.
00:18:36He's a well-known industrialist.
00:18:38In fact, I don't think Trantemago knows this.
00:18:40He went and did his MBA in West Texas University and is now named the Naveen Jindal School
00:18:46of Business.
00:18:46He gave a substantial donation to the school.
00:18:49So, it's a very distinguished career of a gentleman who has been building very large
00:18:53and heavy industries in India and some parts of the world.
00:18:57If Mr. Jindal could access oil from Venezuela, which the people share the largest oil reserves
00:19:03in the world.
00:19:04And maybe, again, I want to clarify to the audience, I'm speculating, but if there's
00:19:09some way he could also access oil from neighboring Guyana and Suriname and have that refinery
00:19:13operating at full capacity, it would over exceedingly well for Trinidad and Tobago.
00:19:18But Mr. Lalladasingh, the opposition made this out to be a bad thing, Mr. Jindal's
00:19:24connection with Venezuela.
00:19:28The Confederation of Chambers is saying, in spite of the geopolitics and whatever America
00:19:36and China and Russia are working on, we have to look at what is the best interest for Trinidad
00:19:43and Tobago.
00:19:45In the best interest of Trantemago, we must have very good relationships with neighboring
00:19:49Venezuela.
00:19:50It is a huge country compared to a very tiny island of Latin America.
00:19:56And the thing about it is that the histories between Trantemago and the migrations between
00:20:02Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuela has been happening for more than two centuries.
00:20:07And those relationships need to continue and need to foster.
00:20:12If the government of Venezuela is telling our government we could extract gas from Dragonfield,
00:20:19there are certain terms and conditions that they contact.
00:20:21My only thing is that the aspects of these contracts must be made more clear and transparent.
00:20:30That's all I'm saying in the best interest for Trinidad and Tobago because we need to
00:20:34understand, the people need to understand what we are signing to.
00:20:38Yes, I agree that negotiations are very sensitive.
00:20:41We have got a license from Venezuela.
00:20:43We have got an OFAC agreement from the government of the United States.
00:20:47My belief at this time, and I want to be clear with it at this time, the OFAC will be renewed
00:20:54depending, Urvashi, on the outcome of the US elections.
00:20:58And if Mr. Trump somehow is victorious, we have to be very concerned and worried about
00:21:04that because Mr. Trump is no friend of Venezuela.
00:21:07He has made that very, very clear.
00:21:10So if the Democrats continue in office, we will be able now to have some breathing space,
00:21:15start to extract the gas and go forward.
00:21:18We need the gas from the Loran side.
00:21:20There are other cross-border fields that we will have to extract the gas from and work
00:21:25out a deal with the Venezuelans.
00:21:27That's how international trade is done.
00:21:29But I want to point this out, that Trinidad and Tobago will be the first country in the
00:21:33world that we extract in cross-border fields of natural gas for our own use.
00:21:39And that, to me, is a very positive development.
00:21:43If we get an operator for the refinery that is willing to pay a substantial sum and have
00:21:48the refinery running at full capacity or the best capacity, because there are 13 different
00:21:54plants that require 13 different disciplines to run in that refinery, then I could see
00:21:59Trinidad and Tobago, from the energy sector point of view, recovering and on the path
00:22:04to economic growth.
00:22:06Now, Mr. Lalitasinghe, in addition to Mr. Jindal, the OWTU has long expressed its interest
00:22:14in the refinery.
00:22:15In order to get public support, well, I should say more public support, your support, the
00:22:20Confederation's support, do you think that it's time for the OWTU to be a little more
00:22:26open as to their proposal and, of course, their partners?
00:22:31Because they did indicate that it's not the OWTU alone.
00:22:34They do have interested partners.
00:22:38Yes, they have indicated in the past that they have interested partners and they have
00:22:42collaborated with these partners.
00:22:43And yes, with all the proposals, the public have a right to know.
00:22:48But I put a caveat here because sometimes when proposals are submitted, the aspect of
00:22:54confidentiality is important to understand what you're getting into.
00:22:58Now, the OWTU has been created under Tobaliraya, Buzz Butler, Adrian Polari and the formerly
00:23:06Krishna Deonarine to deal with the welfare of the oil workers since the 1930s to the
00:23:12present day.
00:23:13But what we must also understand is that the world is going through some very tremendous
00:23:20changes and turbulent changes at this particular point in time.
00:23:24It was a very difficult, maybe even a traumatic decision to close that refinery.
00:23:30But then when the refinery was being closed, where were the certain voices raised in the
00:23:38public space?
00:23:40When workers were being sent home, when the plants were being shut down, where were the
00:23:45public protests?
00:23:46Where were the voices that were clamoring for not to close the refinery?
00:23:52And there were certain reasons why it was done, as explained by the government, the
00:23:58refinery was closed.
00:23:59But the important solution is we needed to reopen and we needed to reopen with somebody
00:24:05bringing in their own resources, right?
00:24:08The government cannot finance someone else's resources that require the refinery.
00:24:13You are selling your car, I cannot ask you, Urvashi, lend me $40,000, $50,000, $60,000
00:24:18so I could buy a car.
00:24:20Okay, that to me doesn't make sense.
00:24:22I must come to you with my money, my resources and say, Urvashi, here is the money, I'll
00:24:27buy a car and we will sort out the transfer at an agreed date.
00:24:30And that is what is needed.
00:24:32So, Mr. Jindal has the US, produced the US, lodged it into the Central Bank of Trinidad
00:24:38and Tobago, let the government do what they need to do.
00:24:42Let the government now effect the transaction and let Mr. Jindal come up with his plan to
00:24:48operate that refinery.
00:24:50Can I also field your thoughts on the OWTU?
00:24:54Well, I should really say JATOM.
00:24:56Some members of JATOM indicating, Mr. Roger on behalf of JATOM indicating that they are
00:25:01willing to partner with the opposition UNC for a change in government because they believe
00:25:10under this current regime, workers or the working class have not seen any progress.
00:25:18Also, I note that the opposition leader just this week or was it last week, she met with
00:25:23the PSC as well.
00:25:25Your thoughts?
00:25:27I mean, in this sphere of politics, people have to talk to each other.
00:25:31In this sphere of international diplomacy, people need to talk to each other.
00:25:34But we don't see these same overtures, at least publicly from government.
00:25:39The tripartite committee has become non-existent.
00:25:45But there were reasons for that as well.
00:25:49That was with the closing of the tourism development company and how it was handled and so forth.
00:25:55But the Confederation of Regional Business Chambers, honestly, don't want to walk into
00:26:02the sphere of politics per se or political developments, although as much as we observe
00:26:08it, where we are concerned and where we are willing to talk to any party is these incentives
00:26:14that you're going to put in place for the growth of the SME sector.
00:26:18What type of programs you are influencing UWE with to develop for educating people?
00:26:24Now, UWE does MBAs, but I have not seen anything that the university is doing, any type of
00:26:30public programs, all about family-based businesses.
00:26:33There are family-based business centers in the University of San Francisco or the Southern
00:26:39Methodist University at Dallas, where they help families not only understand the levels
00:26:44of their business, but to also help them resolve succession planning, matters related to conflict
00:26:50management.
00:26:51You will always have conflict management in family business.
00:26:54What I'm saying is that the conversation we in the Confederation want to have is,
00:26:59what are you going to do for the development of the small and medium enterprise sector,
00:27:05which is littering the landscape, but is diminishing because the external environment is exceedingly,
00:27:11we are finding very exceedingly difficult to survive.
00:27:15Okay, what are you doing regarding the ease of doing business?
00:27:19Registering a business, which is really a headache right now, the whole issue of bankruptcy,
00:27:24the whole issue of accessing finance, the whole issue of registering property and getting
00:27:29construction permits.
00:27:30What is the conversation?
00:27:32Where I see things lacking, and I don't really want to get into the space of the opposition
00:27:37and J-Town, what I would like to see, whoever is the government, to have a very constructive
00:27:43and meaningful engagement with the private sector to discuss how you can have confidence
00:27:48to expand your businesses so we can create more jobs and take on more people and build
00:27:54more international trade.
00:27:56That is where it will take us until we go where it needs to go.
00:27:59Basically, that's what our thoughts are, Urvashi.
00:28:02I know we have a couple more things to talk about.
00:28:05We would really like to find out, you know, the Confederation's role in rendering relief
00:28:12to those CARICOM territories affected by the passage of Hurricane Barrel.
00:28:18Well, the Confederation has 12 chambers, business and non-business associations.
00:28:24We have invited them to work within their communities and the charitable organizations
00:28:29in their communities to put things together, to ship off to Grenada, Carriacou, St. Martin,
00:28:37and these other islands, Jamaica and so forth, whatever they could afford.
00:28:40We don't have huge businessmen, but we are putting together what we can to send across
00:28:46to help these islands.
00:28:48It is, our hearts are heavy and sad what happened to the devastation in those islands.
00:28:55Those are our CARICOM cousins and we must help them and we are committed to helping
00:28:59them.
00:29:00And that would be as it relates to relief supplies?
00:29:05In the context of relief supplies, Urvashi, yes.
00:29:08Okay, so how can persons who are interested join you in this venture?
00:29:13Well, okay, they can call me at 355-6777.
00:29:19They may be able to source a chamber within their particular district, particularly Gasparillo,
00:29:26Tanupia, Pinaldebi, Faizabad, Separia, Point 14.
00:29:32There is also, well, we can talk about this next, the Supermarket Association, and there
00:29:38is also the Yachten Marine Services that's under the leadership of Peter Peak.
00:29:42You can also reach out to Mr. Vivek Charan at 382-2803.
00:29:48He is the Chairman of the Confederation and those who live in Sangre Gandhi can reach
00:29:52out to the Eastern Business Merchants Association under the leadership of Ricardo Mohamed.
00:29:56And of course, I am guessing you would have a priority list or would you be using CARICOM's
00:30:02priority list of those supplies?
00:30:06We'll be using the CARICOM list of priority supplies and of course, again, everything
00:30:10will be sent to a central location as allocated by government and we will let others ship
00:30:17it off there.
00:30:18All right.
00:30:19So, you did mention the Supermarkets Association and your good friend Rajiv Dipti has indicated
00:30:25that he will resign effective, I believe, July 31st, yeah.
00:30:31Yes, well, it came as a surprise to all of us what Rajiv has done.
00:30:37I think it surprised the whole country.
00:30:39But I want to say something here.
00:30:42Rajiv Dipti has been a strong supporter of the Confederation of Chambers.
00:30:49The discussions among presidents has not always been hunky-dory or smooth sailing, but there
00:30:55have been also been difficult conversations as we go, different ideas, different points
00:31:01of view taken into consideration on certain positions.
00:31:06What I would like to say is that Rajiv Dipti has always been there to render advice.
00:31:12Rajiv Dipti has always been someone who believes in business and the private sector and the
00:31:17development of the private sector to create wealth and independence for the citizens of
00:31:22Trinidad and Tobago.
00:31:23I, this morning, as the coordinator of the Confederation of Chambers, thank the Supermarket
00:31:29Association of Trinidad and Tobago for their support and their membership within the
00:31:32Confederation.
00:31:34Thanking Rajiv Dipti for his good advice.
00:31:37Sometimes there are things I need clarity.
00:31:38He is always there.
00:31:40No matter how late at night, he takes my call and he explains certain points of view.
00:31:47He is a very good business leader and a person of very high repute.
00:31:52And I want to say, Rajiv, thank you for all the advice you have given us and assistance
00:31:59as the SAC president.
00:32:01And we will continue dialoguing with you and we wish you well wherever the road takes you
00:32:05at this point in time.
00:32:06So I did also have a little chat with Rajiv Dipti yesterday.
00:32:11And I did indicate to him that, you know, despite he would no longer be head of the
00:32:17Supermarket Association, we will be always pleased to engage him in national discussions
00:32:24because he is definitely a young, bright person who has offered a lot of sober thoughts.
00:32:30And he is very apolitical.
00:32:33He has been willing to work with anyone as it relates to the greater good of society.
00:32:38And I do, in fact, recall the Crown Herd Project launched, you know, by the Supermarket
00:32:44Association to ensure that sanitary supplies are given to those young persons or those
00:32:51women of the country who are in most need.
00:32:53And, of course, all those efforts during the COVID-19 pandemic, ensuring that, yeah,
00:32:59persons were protected.
00:33:01Remember, we had vaccinations even at supermarkets.
00:33:04We ensured that supermarket workers were covered.
00:33:07They being even considered frontline workers just as well.
00:33:11So I join you in thanking him for his service during that very dicey period.
00:33:17As we close, Jai, is there anything else that you'd like to add?
00:33:21I will add two small points.
00:33:23One is that the small and medium enterprise sector plays an indelible and indispensable
00:33:29part in the development of the economy of Puerto Rico.
00:33:33Government has to put some incentives in place to encourage further investment and access
00:33:39to finance, especially foreign exchange.
00:33:42Access to foreign exchange is a beast that is killing us slowly.
00:33:47And the whole issue of customs clearing containers at the port at a snail's pace is costing
00:33:53us a lot of money in terms of doing business, particularly paying a lot of damage costs
00:33:57that is so unnecessary.
00:34:00That needs to be addressed for businesses to continuously operate.
00:34:04Foreign exchange access mechanisms that access foreign exchange and customs and excise reform
00:34:10in order to move containers out of the port and into the ports.
00:34:15And to help businesses cut down on pay, customs and overtime costs and the damage costs.
00:34:21Jai Shimla Lilladah Singh, of course, Coordinator of the Confederation of Regional Business
00:34:26Chambers.
00:34:26Let me thank you so much for joining us as our first guest on this Friday's morning
00:34:30edition.
00:34:31All the best to you.
00:34:33All the best to you and have a great day.
00:34:34Thank you so much.
00:34:35Well, top viewers, it's now time for a quick break.
00:34:38We will be right back.
00:34:39On the other side of the break, we'll be talking a little more about this SSE controversy.
00:34:45Paul Daniel Nahus, a law enforcement and security expert, joins us.
00:34:50We'll be right back.
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00:36:45So we're now talking about the SSA controversy.
00:36:49Of course, the Prime Minister in Parliament a couple of days ago issued a full statement
00:36:54on the audit of the SSA.
00:36:56There are so many questions to be answered.
00:37:00The Prime Minister described the operations of the SSA as almost cultish.
00:37:06The question of all these ammunition, the unaccounted for this morning, Top Story and
00:37:13Express newspaper, the 70,000 rounds of ammunition yet to be accounted for.
00:37:20Would the whistleblower protection bill, would this have assisted in uncovering what was
00:37:27going on at the SSA for however long?
00:37:31We really don't know how long this has been ongoing.
00:37:34Of course, 28 employees in March 2024, they were terminated for breaching the SSA Act.
00:37:42How is this allowed?
00:37:43How is the hijacking of the SSA essentially by a church allowed for so long?
00:37:49It has been described as an unapproved structure.
00:37:52The Prime Minister cited cases of nepotism and opportunism at the SSA.
00:37:58Joining us now to dissect this entire situation, we have Paul Daniel Nahus.
00:38:04He's, of course, a law enforcement and security expert.
00:38:07Mr. Nahus, thank you so much for joining us this morning.
00:38:10Thank you for having me here.
00:38:12Alrighty.
00:38:12So where do we start essentially?
00:38:14Were you able to read the Prime Minister's full statement or at least take it in via
00:38:20the Parliament channel?
00:38:21And of course, your overall thoughts on what was revealed by the Prime Minister via the
00:38:27audit report.
00:38:29So I had a chance to read up on what was said.
00:38:32And I mean, the audit report was not shared around the place, but the Prime Minister pulled
00:38:39out some sections.
00:38:40And I say audit report just because it's termed that.
00:38:43I'm not sure how in-depth the audit was, if it was an actual audit.
00:38:46Because we have seen politically for years now, what has happened is that people are
00:38:51handpicked to do a quote-unquote audit.
00:38:55And then it comes out exactly the way the government wants it to come out.
00:38:59And everyone else is just demonized.
00:39:01So I would not consider it a real audit report unless more is seen in it or more is provided
00:39:11to look into.
00:39:13And what he said, the overall scope of it is this.
00:39:16The SSA, I do believe that there were some misgivings in the SSA.
00:39:20I think that is very apparent.
00:39:22However, at the same time, it seems like this is becoming a repeat of email gate.
00:39:27It's becoming a repeat of this thing where something is just taken, I don't want to say
00:39:33out of context, but it's blown up in a certain way.
00:39:36I'm not saying that there were not problems there.
00:39:38I'm not saying that it's not a serious situation.
00:39:41It is a very serious situation when anything is involved with the SSA, given its mandate.
00:39:47However, my question is, how is it allowed to go on so long under this National Security
00:39:53Council, under this National Security Minister?
00:39:56None of these flags were raised, nothing was seen.
00:39:59And in terms of the whistleblower legislation, I don't think that would have made any type of
00:40:03difference because it seemed that everyone was in some kind of collusion, but the government
00:40:08seemed to be blind to it.
00:40:09And if the government is blind to their premier as a legitimate spy agency, then things are
00:40:15really bad from that perspective.
00:40:17Accountable to, essentially, is it the National Security Ministry, are there annual reports
00:40:22submitted to the National Security Ministry where these discrepancies would have come up?
00:40:27I did see somewhere among my notes, if we even just look at the ammunition procured
00:40:36by the SSE, there was an unbelievable jump from, I believe, a few thousand to a few hundred
00:40:44from, I believe, a few thousand, like just about 8,000 in 2021.
00:40:50It went up to 100,000.
00:40:54That's right.
00:40:55No, we went from 2020, 16,000 to 2021, 52,000 to 2022, 100,000 rounds of ammunition.
00:41:07So I want to put it like this.
00:41:09The first thing I would say is that I find it very strange that the former commissioner
00:41:15would get blamed for everything we're saying, but in terms of those massive, quote-unquote
00:41:19massive ammunition purchases in those years, who is the commissioner at that point in time?
00:41:24Why did the minister not speak with the commissioner about why that was allowed, if it was allowed
00:41:29in terms of being purchased?
00:41:31Now, I'm not sure if it was because some people doing these audits for the government
00:41:36seem to confuse the terminology all the time.
00:41:38So I don't know if it was purchased or it was just acquired.
00:41:41There's a big difference because a lot of the, I mean, a lot of ammunition weapons would
00:41:45have come from the old sort units, I mean, given to the SSE as well.
00:41:50Now, let's just deal with the number of 100,000.
00:41:53It depends on the purpose, of course, because let's say you have, they said there was an
00:41:57operational unit.
00:41:58Now, whether they were supposed to be operational or not, that's up for the government to decide.
00:42:02If there was an operational unit running and they're not supposed to have operational
00:42:04units or tactical units, then that was a massive drop of the ball by the minister in
00:42:11not realizing that that was going on.
00:42:12However, if indeed they had an operational unit that was properly run and functioning,
00:42:17then 100,000 rungs is nothing, honestly, because you have to factor in how much rungs is needed
00:42:23for training.
00:42:24So for example, let's just say, I have a calculator here, so let's just do rough figures.
00:42:28Let's just say the operational units had 20 people, and you have 20 people doing training,
00:42:36let's just say, requalification every quarter, and to prepare fit to do the requalification,
00:42:41let's say they're running through about 500 rungs, that's 20 multiplied by 500 per quarter,
00:42:47multiply that by four, and then you get 40,000 rungs just for requalification and that type
00:42:52of training, without any specialized tactical training.
00:42:55And those are just some points.
00:42:57If I'm wrong in terms of a few figures here and there, excuse me, but I'm going through
00:43:02very quickly when it comes to training and prepping and so on.
00:43:05And then, of course, you have to have sets for operational purposes set aside, you have
00:43:08to have for your guard detail set aside.
00:43:10And I would put it in this way that the prime minister did say as well that they broke international
00:43:18best practice as in they were storing training and operational rungs together and this and that.
00:43:25I think he should really review what goes on in law enforcement training and if that
00:43:29is a concern of his because, for example, while the TTPS has their ammunition stations
00:43:34for operations, their training ammunition and their operational ammunition are drawn
00:43:38from the same bunker in the police academy, well, behind the police academy in the armory.
00:43:42So I think that when I see things like that, I tend to think the prime minister may not
00:43:47understand the entire scope of it or understand things in context.
00:43:50Now, I'm not saying that they were correct to have operational units.
00:43:52I'm not saying that there was not some type of concern.
00:43:55There was a lot of concern, I think.
00:43:56However, certain things I'm not sure are seen in context.
00:44:01So let me ask you this.
00:44:03When you procure ammunition, because all this is happening in a climate where at murder
00:44:09scenes, at crime scenes, we are seeing, how do you call it, casings with TTPS marks, for
00:44:17instance.
00:44:17This is a reality.
00:44:20See the reports in the newspapers almost on a weekly basis.
00:44:23So this is happening in that climate.
00:44:25When you purchase ammunition, is it already marked by the, how does it mark, is it marked
00:44:34by the person you're procuring it from?
00:44:36Yeah, so excellent question.
00:44:40When ammunition is procured, if it's procured for certain agencies, and it's come through
00:44:45dealers, but it has to be procured for certain agencies.
00:44:48Once it's confirmed that it's being procured for this agency and it's going directly to
00:44:53them, then once you have an order large enough, the manufacturer will stamp what you want
00:44:59to be stamped on the ammunition.
00:45:00For example, TTPS would be T.T.P.S.
00:45:04Regiment will have the markings.
00:45:06Air Guard will have the markings.
00:45:08Now, if you have a small amount, for example, like prisons, prisons actually has to put
00:45:13their own markings on it when it comes.
00:45:15I'm not going to reveal what that is, obviously, but they're going to have to put their own
00:45:18markings because they don't order enough quantity to make it worthwhile for the manufacturer
00:45:23to actually mark it.
00:45:25So the markings from T.T.P.S.
00:45:27would have come from the T.T.P.S.
00:45:28ammunition comes from Brazil, actually, from Arctic Factory.
00:45:31And when they bought some years back when Stephen Williams was commissioner, they bought,
00:45:35I think it was somewhere around five, six million rounds or something for T.T.P.S.
00:45:40So you understand in the millions how much is really needed for training, for operations,
00:45:44and also for rotation of ammunition.
00:45:46Ammunition does degrade.
00:45:48Ammunition does go bad and get faulty over time, especially if not kept in proper temperature
00:45:53control environments, which may not be practical for T.T.P.S., may not be practical for certain
00:45:59agencies.
00:45:59So it's actually best practice to take that ammunition and to use it for training purposes,
00:46:04to bring it out and replace it with new ammunition.
00:46:08That generally doesn't really happen too much anymore.
00:46:10Just dispose of ammunition.
00:46:11Yeah.
00:46:13So, of course, when you reference that purchase done under Stephen Williams, those millions,
00:46:18when we look at 100,000, it really isn't that much comparatively.
00:46:21No, it's not much.
00:46:23And, you know, a lot is going on in terms of maybe making way for the firearm control
00:46:28bill that they're trying to push.
00:46:31A lot of it is just being, I want to say, for lack of a better word, being inflated
00:46:36to make some kind of panic in the public.
00:46:39And again, I'm not saying it's not a matter of concern and you have to look into it, but
00:46:43I will just give a quick example of when I was looking for T.T.P.S., when I was looking
00:46:48for national security, as the firearm subject matter expert and training subject matter
00:46:52expert, there was an incident that happened, or issue, I should say, where the head of
00:46:57a, I don't want to say unit, but a tactical unit needed ammunition for their tactical
00:47:02training, tactical support training.
00:47:04And this was training to guard the prime minister, to guard the president, to guard the minister
00:47:09this was training to guard ministers and so on.
00:47:12And the head of the assistant commissioner of administration who approves the ammunition
00:47:18use issued 50 wrongs per person for training.
00:47:21And besides not being ridiculously low on a regular, in a regular case, I had to call
00:47:27and try to see what was going on because she was, and she was honestly, she just wanted
00:47:33to be justified because she just defaulted to what the basic training qualification wrongs
00:47:37were, where this training is training with automatic weapons, training to use suppressive
00:47:42fire, train to cover, train to do a lot of different things.
00:47:45And that tactical training by each person, each person needed around, they needed a couple
00:47:50thousand wrongs each, and a couple, let's just say a couple thousand, let's say 2,000
00:47:54wrongs each.
00:47:55And we're dealing with wanting to qualify, let's just say even 15 people, you're coming
00:47:59up to 30,000 wrongs in a few days of training.
00:48:02You're not sworn to secrecy, right?
00:48:05No, no, I have no confidentiality agreement given that, but I will pick and choose exactly
00:48:10what I see not to jeopardize the national security apparatus of the country.
00:48:14Okay.
00:48:14So let me just, allow me to just quote from the prime minister's statement.
00:48:19The audit also found disturbing practices of nepotism and opportunism.
00:48:25Such persons belonged to a cult which was arming itself while preaching a doctrine for
00:48:32trained military and parliamentary personnel with a religious calling to be the most suitable
00:48:38persons to replace the country's political leadership.
00:48:41Now, given this, given the fact that we are looking for 70,000 rounds of ammunition, I
00:48:48mean, some persons may want to believe that this cultish group was planning a coup.
00:48:55Okay.
00:48:55So it's very funny that this government is talking about nepotism.
00:49:01But anyway, we'll pass that point.
00:49:04In terms of the address, in terms of calling something a cult and so on, you need to be
00:49:11very careful about certain statements.
00:49:12I think statements are made very recklessly in parliament.
00:49:14I would challenge the prime minister to make it outside in that, not for my purpose, but
00:49:19for the country.
00:49:20And I would actually challenge him to deal with it if it is this serious.
00:49:25If he suspects it's a coup, there must be evidence to that.
00:49:29If there's a conspiracy to have a coup, there must be some type of evidence towards that.
00:49:33And there are charges associated with it.
00:49:35It's very important that it be dealt with.
00:49:37I mean, I don't think that this group with their limited training, with their hard training,
00:49:41but limited training also, could challenge the officers of the MOPS units of the IATF,
00:49:47of the GB.
00:49:48I don't think it would be as much a threat.
00:49:50But you can't disregard anything.
00:49:51So the prime minister would have concerns.
00:49:53And if indeed 70,000 rounds of ammunition is missing, if that is indeed true, I think
00:50:01that you should be hearing about raids all the time on his compound.
00:50:04There should be a scramble right now.
00:50:08Actively searching for that ammunition.
00:50:10Yeah, because if you're saying 70,000 rounds have been stolen, basically, or alluding to
00:50:14that, for the purpose of overthrowing a government, that he had a call in troops for that.
00:50:19That the military should be involved in that operation as well.
00:50:22At this point, if you believe that there's some type of plot to overthrow the government,
00:50:26because that is a very serious thing.
00:50:28I'm not saying that it is or it isn't.
00:50:30It's just that I just find that there's not enough information to be given.
00:50:35And if it is serious, I don't feel like it's being treated as if it's that serious.
00:50:39And it's quite ironic that these allegations of, you know, well, the cultish allegations,
00:50:47et cetera, et cetera, that this is coming from the agency that's supposed to be weeding
00:50:51that out, weeding out any threats to national security, any threats to the government, to
00:50:57the people, to the citizenry.
00:51:00They are the ones now being accused of acquiring ammunition for their own purposes.
00:51:07Well, that's a very good point.
00:51:10I mean, it comes back to who are the guards.
00:51:12And that's why the minister needs to be the one to answer for this.
00:51:15How did it happen under his watch?
00:51:19So in his statement, the prime minister also referenced, sought seeing among the firearms
00:51:26ammunition coming into possession of the SSE in the period under review.
00:51:30Several of them were issued from the TDPS armory to the special operations response
00:51:36team.
00:51:36Now, the prime minister, interestingly, also referenced, well, speaking about assault,
00:51:42this involved killings where it was said by a police commissioner and subordinates at
00:51:46prisons and police custody actually died when they quote unquote fell off a chair.
00:51:51Only recently, the sick joke was repeated by a former police commissioner who used the
00:51:56explanation to assure the public that the unfortunates who fell off a chair and I quote
00:52:02could never rape anyone again.
00:52:06The prime minister did cite that, but when you speak to the general public, the feedback
00:52:10of the general public, they really are not moved by the idea that, you know, persons
00:52:20in police custody could quote unquote fall off a chair and die.
00:52:23They are actually, talk to some of them, they'll be happy and they would agree with
00:52:27this former police commissioner because of the lack of confidence in the TDPS and the
00:52:36judiciary.
00:52:38So I want to say, first of all, this is why the statement was repeated, say it outside,
00:52:44outside the parliament, because at no time did the former commissioner say that they
00:52:49died as a result of falling off of a chair.
00:52:51He never said they fell off a chair and died.
00:52:54There was a struggle that ensued and there were issues that went on with the persons
00:52:57resisting arrest, I believe.
00:52:58I believe that's what happened.
00:53:00And people, they were injured in the whatever struggle that ensued in placing them under
00:53:05arrest.
00:53:06When they were put to sit down on a chair, they did at some point in time, they did fall
00:53:11off of the chair, they were put down on due to whatever injuries or so they had.
00:53:14But at no time did the commissioner ever see that they died because they fell off a chair.
00:53:19It was not because of that.
00:53:21They did fall off a chair at some point when they couldn't sit down properly.
00:53:25That was in the report.
00:53:26However, at the same time, the commissioner never said that.
00:53:28So the prime minister keeps repeating it in parliament, where you are protected and where
00:53:33you could, if you would so choose, defame people.
00:53:35So I'll rubbish that.
00:53:38And in terms of the confidence in the police service, all that thereof, people were confident
00:53:44that the former commissioner was on his seat and the former commissioner was handling it.
00:53:47They were, I mean, I'm not going to go over the stats because he's gone over the stats
00:53:49many times.
00:53:50People know the level of confidence of the police at the time because things were being
00:53:53actively managed and actively dealt with.
00:53:57A different type of leadership, a different type of approach, and over 100 initiatives
00:54:01that came in that did result in the reduction.
00:54:04I was on that team for crime reduction and I was not in the middle of it in terms of
00:54:10going to arrest anyone, doing anything like that.
00:54:12Everyone had a support role to play and everyone played a role in that bigger picture of reducing
00:54:17crime.
00:54:18It was a lot of work behind the scenes.
00:54:19Gary Griffith, the former commissioner, had a good team put together and he was very dynamic.
00:54:24He kept on switching things up.
00:54:25As fast as the criminals moved one day, one way, he was there to meet them already.
00:54:29That's how crime was being reduced at the time.
00:54:32And that, of course, because of that, the citizens felt safer and it did increase the
00:54:37level of trust in the police service.
00:54:39And to go on to Yvonne, I know this is not the purpose of this, but Yvonne to touch on
00:54:43this whole thing of trying to demonize issuing of firearm licenses.
00:54:47More firearm licenses were issued, not because Gary Griffith feels he wants to issue firearm
00:54:50licenses, but because his job as commissioner of police was to process the people who were
00:54:56going to be the final signatory for that process.
00:54:58And when it came to him, in terms of the persons who they're claiming have charges and convictions
00:55:04who have FULs, well, I'm supposed to see a public notice from the commissioner, this
00:55:09is how you revoke an FUL, with the FUL being revoked.
00:55:12If they have these charges and they have these issues, why am I not seeing a public notice
00:55:16that the commissioner is required to issue to revoke those FULs immediately?
00:55:21In terms of they were claiming that somebody on the age of 25 got an FUL, which is against
00:55:26the law, then at that point in time, the commissioner would have checked all the documentation,
00:55:30or his clerk would have checked all documentation, and that falls on a division at the investigative
00:55:35level.
00:55:35The commissioner was not an investigator.
00:55:37So that's just to throw into that, that issuing of firearms, legal firearms, there was a massive
00:55:44reduction of crime at the time.
00:55:46So, Mr. Nahoos, unfortunately, our time has come to an end.
00:55:49Let me thank you very much for joining us.
00:55:51And you're now really dissecting this issue, of course, sharing your views and your perspective.
00:55:56Paul Daniel Nahoos, law enforcement and security expert, thank you so much for joining us this
00:56:01morning.
00:56:02Thank you for having me again, dear.
00:56:03Take care.
00:56:03All the best.
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00:58:38Good morning.
00:58:38I am Ansel Gibbs with a news update.
00:58:42Some people who use CourtPay are complaining about delays
00:58:46with receiving funds.
00:58:48I called CourtPay to find out if the money was paid.
00:58:50They said yes.
00:58:51He paid it in three grabs of money.
00:58:55All right.
00:58:56How long did it take to get the money?
00:58:58It took about two hours to get the money.
00:59:00It took about two hours to get the money.
00:59:02It took about two hours to get the money.
00:59:05How long did it take to get the money?
00:59:07They said it would take within a month to six weeks.
00:59:10And within a month to six weeks, nothing.
00:59:13Two months, nothing.
00:59:14And that became an issue over and over in this 2024.
00:59:18That money was paid December 29, 2023.
00:59:23When I called up to last week to find out what is going on,
00:59:26I can't get an answer.
00:59:27I can't get a phone number.
00:59:29I can't get a court date.
00:59:30I can't get nothing.
00:59:31Just wait.
00:59:32We know about the issue and wait.
00:59:34The judiciary says it's actively working with the software developer WePay
00:59:39and other service providers to ensure that these funds are paid out.
00:59:45Pan Trinbago is elated as TNT is closer than ever
00:59:49to having the steel pan proclaimed the national instrument.
00:59:53We are going to be having a grand celebration
00:59:57again in Trinidad and Tobago on that day.
01:00:00And trust me, by the 8th of August,
01:00:03another major announcement will be made about the steel pan here in Trinidad and Tobago.
01:00:10No, no, no, I can't give a heads up at this time
01:00:13based on where it is at this moment.
01:00:15But I tell you, another historical day is coming.
01:00:23And in the weather forecast,
01:00:25partly sunny skies take over
01:00:27and a layer of slight dust haze will be visible across the islands.
01:00:31Seas are moderate in open waters,
01:00:34with swells ranging from one and a half to two meters and increasing.
01:00:38Remember, spring tide is in effect.
01:00:41Caution is advised when venturing offshore.
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01:01:31Instead, it's a slow, insidious process that can persist for months, even years.
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01:01:45Now, let's shed some light on how chronic inflammation can lead to insulin resistance.
01:01:51Under normal circumstances,
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01:02:01However, chronic inflammation can interfere with this process.
01:02:05It can make your cells more resistant to insulin,
01:02:08making it harder for glucose to enter your cells.
01:02:11As a result, blood sugar levels in your bloodstream can rise,
01:02:15setting the stage for diabetes.
01:02:17But that's not all.
01:02:18Chronic inflammation can also directly impact your pancreas.
01:02:22The organ responsible for producing insulin.
01:02:25Prolonged inflammation in the pancreas can damage the insulin-producing beta cells.
01:02:30This damage can reduce insulin production,
01:02:33exacerbating the problem of high blood sugar, and worsening the state of diabetes.
01:02:38Moreover, chronic inflammation can contribute to what's known as pancreatic beta cell exhaustion.
01:02:44This condition leads to impaired insulin secretion,
01:02:48and further disrupts glucose regulation,
01:02:50pushing the body further down the path towards diabetes.
01:02:54Chronic inflammation can also increase the risk of pancreatitis,
01:02:58an inflammation of the pancreas.
01:03:00This condition can damage pancreatic tissue, disrupt insulin production,
01:03:05and further compound the problems associated with diabetes.
01:03:09Understanding the connection between chronic inflammation and diabetes
01:03:13underscores the importance of managing inflammation.
01:03:17Lifestyle changes such as adopting a balanced diet, engaging in regular exercise,
01:03:22and managing stress can all play a crucial role in reducing chronic inflammation.
01:03:27And in some cases, medication may be necessary.
01:03:31Of course, if you have any concerns about chronic inflammation,
01:03:35insulin resistance or diabetes, it's important to consult a healthcare professional.
01:03:41They can provide personalized guidance and help you take steps to protect your health.
01:03:47In conclusion, chronic inflammation is more than just a persistent annoyance.
01:03:52It's a potential catalyst for insulin resistance,
01:03:55diabetes, and a host of pancreas-related issues.
01:03:59By understanding this connection and taking steps to manage inflammation,
01:04:03you can help safeguard your health against these serious conditions.
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01:06:03Welcome back Trinidad and Tobago.
01:06:16So we're switching gears now on its vibes in the studio
01:06:19because we've got Fish and Friends Mass Band.
01:06:22They will be participating in its first ever Arima Bardi.
01:06:26The band is said to be a vibrant and dynamic band
01:06:30known for innovative and culturally rich presentations.
01:06:33So we're now joined by Vanessa Scott who is a committee member
01:06:37and Ronelle Pay. She's also a committee member
01:06:39and they're both here to tell us a little bit more about this band.
01:06:42Ladies, welcome. It's a pleasure to have you all here
01:06:45in Port of Spain this morning.
01:06:47It's a pleasure.
01:06:48It's a pleasure to be here.
01:06:49Thank you for the opportunity.
01:06:50So let's let's talk about Fish and Friends, this mass band.
01:06:54Tell us a little bit about the history.
01:06:56Okay, Fish and Friends Mass Band.
01:07:00This band evolved from a group called Fish Alone.
01:07:05It was founded by our present counselor,
01:07:08Mr. Sheldon Garcia of Arima Central.
01:07:11Oh, Fish.
01:07:12Right, popularly known as Fish.
01:07:15You know the name, right?
01:07:17He had a vision about people, progress, and unity, right?
01:07:22So that is what we as a group, as a community group,
01:07:27we look to poetry, right?
01:07:30Our main mission is to bring back the dignity,
01:07:34the unity, and the creativity, and the pride
01:07:37in our royal chartered borough of Arima, right?
01:07:40So that is where we started off.
01:07:42And of course, the saying goes that Fish got fed up of being alone,
01:07:48so he decided to add a couple of friends.
01:07:53So how long have you all had this band?
01:07:56Wow.
01:07:58We really started off...
01:08:00Fish used to do things over the years.
01:08:02He used to consistently bring out bands,
01:08:04but again, as Fish Alone.
01:08:06So we really launched as Fish and Friends
01:08:09last year, for last year, Carnival 2023, right?
01:08:12And we came out with a presentation,
01:08:14a wonderful presentation,
01:08:16where it is we were able to put and highlight
01:08:19the different races and, of course, the cultural contributions.
01:08:23So that is what we came out with last year.
01:08:25And it was a huge success.
01:08:26We won band of the year.
01:08:28We won the king and the queen, the individuals.
01:08:31It was a sweep.
01:08:32And I think it pulled a lot of people to realize,
01:08:35hey, Arima is alive and vibrant,
01:08:39and let's give Fish and Friends a chance.
01:08:43So Renelle, tell us.
01:08:45So this is the first time Fish and Friends
01:08:47will be participating in Borough Day celebration.
01:08:49Yes.
01:08:50So when is Borough Day?
01:08:52What do we need to know about it?
01:08:53Well, Borough Day is on the 10th of August.
01:08:56We have a lot of activities coming up.
01:08:58We have a calendar and events in the making, actually.
01:09:01We have the cannon blast.
01:09:03We have the parade, you know,
01:09:05and these are the things that will follow up
01:09:07to the parade of the bands on the 10th of August.
01:09:10So yeah, we coming out, Arima is back.
01:09:12So is it that Fish and Friends will be participating
01:09:15in each of these events?
01:09:16You know, you're bringing out your cruise,
01:09:17your coolers, that kind of thing.
01:09:18No, what happened is that it's like a community thing.
01:09:22So everyone is invited to take part in,
01:09:26but the cannon blast is something
01:09:28that you don't have to bring your coolers and stuff,
01:09:30but you can come out and socialize
01:09:33because this is what Arima does.
01:09:34We are together.
01:09:36And of course, what can we expect on that day,
01:09:39on August 10th, I mean, band-wise?
01:09:42For Fish and Friends, we are bringing out Arima Army.
01:09:47So Arima Army is all the different colors for the Arima.
01:09:52Right?
01:09:53We have different sections.
01:09:54We have monokinis, we have t-shirts,
01:09:56we have the vest for the men.
01:09:58I mean, look at this.
01:10:01Oh, this is just a sample.
01:10:02This is just a sample, right?
01:10:04And we have the beautiful Arima people.
01:10:07So for those who have never been
01:10:08to Borro Day celebrations, Vanessa,
01:10:10what, I mean, what are Borro Day celebrations like
01:10:13and how does it differ from Juve, from Carnival?
01:10:16Listen, Borro Day for us, Arima people,
01:10:19again, I love to say the word,
01:10:21Royal Chartered Borro of Arima, say it well.
01:10:25It's our experience.
01:10:27So just as my colleague Renal said,
01:10:29it's a time where it is that
01:10:33for more than a week and a half, we have activities
01:10:36starting with the cannon blasts and the smoke ceremony,
01:10:39which is our indigenous persons.
01:10:41We started off the church ceremony, the military parade.
01:10:46We have the civic ceremonies as well,
01:10:48awards that will be happening.
01:10:50And we will also be celebrating
01:10:52the World International Indigenous People's Day,
01:10:56our ceremony with that, and a couple of other things.
01:10:58So it's more of a time for Arima people to shine
01:11:03for the creativity, for the love,
01:11:05for the courage, the presence of Arima people
01:11:08to come out and display.
01:11:10So it's an experience that we are selling here, right?
01:11:13It's not just a day.
01:11:15It culminates at the day on the 10th.
01:11:18But hear what, it'll be days of activities
01:11:22where there's Arima will be shown
01:11:24in its greatest positive light.
01:11:26So you've got me sold already, right?
01:11:28But what are some of the unique aspects
01:11:33of your presentation?
01:11:34I will set you apart from,
01:11:35like, if I decide I'm coming to Borro de Narima,
01:11:38why would I want to gravitate towards Fish and Friends?
01:11:41Well, our band prides itself on the emphasis
01:11:46we place on the people above the mass itself, right?
01:11:49As our famous Peter Menchel said,
01:11:52the people are the ones who play the mass.
01:11:55The mass will play the people, right?
01:11:57And the fact of the matter is,
01:11:59when we bring out sections,
01:12:01because we not only bring out sections for Borro de,
01:12:03but we also bring out sections for the carnival.
01:12:06And we focus on highlighting the people,
01:12:10highlighting our flora and fauna,
01:12:12our national festivals, right?
01:12:14The national pride.
01:12:16So we look to bring out the best
01:12:18and to showcase not only on a national level,
01:12:22but also international because eyes are on us.
01:12:24So we want to bring young people,
01:12:27old people together in our mass band
01:12:30and portray the positivity.
01:12:32We know the negatives are out there,
01:12:34but hear what, through the culture,
01:12:36through our rich history,
01:12:37we want to showcase what we are,
01:12:41who we are as Trinidadians and Tabegonians.
01:12:43And in that case, what is the importance
01:12:46of community involvement,
01:12:48of cultural preservation to you?
01:12:50I mean, Arima people are very proud, as I said,
01:12:53for its people, everything that is Arima.
01:12:57Watchman, of our group uniquely,
01:13:00because of the fact that our group is a volunteer group,
01:13:04first of all,
01:13:05and each of us come out and put our best
01:13:08because we understand not only the preservation,
01:13:11the need for the preservation of our culture,
01:13:13but also the promotion of it.
01:13:15So we and our stakeholders and our supporters,
01:13:19we are committed to bringing out that richness,
01:13:22that culture, because I mean,
01:13:24if you look at Arima through the years,
01:13:26we have been progressing and we have been showcasing.
01:13:30A lot of persons have been coming out
01:13:31and showing their creativity.
01:13:32So that is the forum we use to promote, preserve,
01:13:36and to just highlight yourself.
01:13:40And of course, enjoy yourself.
01:13:42So, Ranelle, how can people get into contact
01:13:45with fish and friends, persons who are interested
01:13:47in playing mass with you guys?
01:13:49Okay, so we have our boot camp,
01:13:53or we call it our office as well.
01:13:55We have our numbers out there on social media,
01:13:59Facebook, Instagram, fish and friends mass band,
01:14:05that is the name of it on Facebook, Instagram.
01:14:08We also have telephone contacts out there.
01:14:12I can give you mine.
01:14:13I think we have some on the screen here.
01:14:15Yes, it's 625-0268, Ranelle is the name.
01:14:19You can contact Vanessa, you can contact Brandon,
01:14:22you can even call fish.
01:14:24Yeah, those who know fish, they'll call fish.
01:14:27Yes.
01:14:28And costs, costing, all of that,
01:14:30how much does it cost to play with you guys?
01:14:32Well, first we have a registration fee of $100.
01:14:37And once you plug that in, we have different packages.
01:14:40We have our junior packages,
01:14:42which would be the basic package is 150.
01:14:45So we start from 150 and you can add on stuff
01:14:48because again, it's our Rima Army.
01:14:50So we come in with the colors, we come in with the gear.
01:14:53So you can add stuff on and it goes up to at least 300.
01:14:57But you know, you're getting a premium experience.
01:14:59Just all inclusive.
01:15:01There's an all-inclusive package that comes for about 300, 350.
01:15:06And the basic package is 150, right?
01:15:09With the registration of $100.
01:15:11So you cater for everyone.
01:15:12Catering for everybody, everybody pockets.
01:15:14But know whichever package, whichever section you jump in,
01:15:18you will have a time.
01:15:19Have a blast.
01:15:20We guarantee that.
01:15:21All right.
01:15:22So I know you all have something special there.
01:15:24Yes, yes.
01:15:26So this is our official Fish Alone, Fish and Friends jersey,
01:15:34which we'll be presenting to you, ma'am.
01:15:35Thank you so much.
01:15:38Thank you so much.
01:15:38So guys, this is what...
01:15:40Fish and Friends.
01:15:41Yeah, Fish and Friends.
01:15:43This is what it looks like.
01:15:44I might have to take it in a little bit,
01:15:45but I'll definitely wear it.
01:15:47And this is what, this is for one section.
01:15:50So you have different...
01:15:50And these are our monokeys.
01:15:52Well, we have only monokeys, aren't they?
01:15:55With sleeves.
01:15:56Yes, yes, yes.
01:15:58And of course, there's an off-shoulder option.
01:16:00There's two-piece.
01:16:00Take it in for anybody type.
01:16:02Anybody type, yes.
01:16:02But you have a little reservation on the thing.
01:16:05Yes, correct.
01:16:05Welcome to jump out.
01:16:06You're welcome to jump out.
01:16:07Yes.
01:16:07So thank you all so much for joining us, guys.
01:16:10Once again, this is what it looks like.
01:16:13Well, yeah.
01:16:15So thank you all so much.
01:16:16And as we close, once again, just remind persons
01:16:20how they could contact you guys and get in touch with you all.
01:16:23Okay.
01:16:24So y'all can contact us via Facebook or Instagram
01:16:27at Fish and Friends, MassBan.
01:16:29Or you can contact us via telephone,
01:16:32or you could visit us at the office.
01:16:33Yes.
01:16:34Right on the Malabar Branch Road.
01:16:35Yes, Malabar Branch Road.
01:16:37Don't be a stranger.
01:16:38So if you have no plans on August 10th,
01:16:40or even if you have plans, cancel those plans.
01:16:42Yes, cancel it.
01:16:43And head down to Arima Borody.
01:16:45It's an experience, an event that you won't want to miss.
01:16:47Ladies, thank you so much for joining us here,
01:16:50of course, in person.
01:16:51To our viewers, it's now time for a quick break.
01:16:53We'll be right back.
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01:19:20Welcome back Trinidad and Tobago. So we're talking beauty pageants this morning and it's not just for those young and budding. We're talking magnificent moms. So we're joined on set this morning by Jewel Marie Green Thompson. She's of course the pageant coach and Latoya Ash, Miss Arima. Thank you so much ladies for joining us for being here in person. I know, you know, you have to wake up, do your hair, your makeup and everything and be on point.
01:19:49So thank you so much again. So tell us about, we could probably start with Jewel, tell us a little bit about this pageant, Miss Magnificent Mom Pageant.
01:19:59Miss Magnificent Mom Pageant is the second year. Lyndon Ross is a franchise holder and we more or less focus on mothers from all categories of life. Beauty does not stop at being single and the traditional perspective of what beauty standards are.
01:20:19So we more or less open our doors for persons in terms of the motherhood and Miss Latoya Ash can tell you that she has been doing a magnificent job during our training process.
01:20:33So we're looking for contestants across, or you have already had contestants, successful contestants.
01:20:4213 contestants. Training was already carded six weeks ago and they were very intense. They literally put a hard work in and we went through the pieces of modeling, dancing, questions and answers and they just executed phenomenally.
01:21:01So, you know, even, I mean, there is going to be a winner, but even those who may not win, they still come out with a better person.
01:21:09Yes.
01:21:10Like I'm looking at Miss Ash, all poised, you know, hands on her laps, very poised, I must say, straight back and I think she's taken the training exceptionally well.
01:21:23So tell us a little bit about yourself. And of course, when you're a mom, tell us about, you know, how many kids you have, what they're doing, that kind of thing. How do you balance? Do you do work? How do you balance with mom life?
01:21:33Sure. Good morning Trinidad and Tobago. My name is Miss Latoya Ash and I represent the beautiful borough of Arima.
01:21:40So I am a music teacher. I have two amazing boys, one just sitting SEA and pass for Queens Royal College. So we work very hard. We work hand in hand and we're very close knit.
01:21:53So a lot of the things that I do, they are more, most of the times with me, they perform with me being a music teacher. So it's very easy for me. Right.
01:22:04If I'm training two boys, it could be tough sometimes because it could be a bit, you know, active. But balancing is OK for me. I have support. I have the support from friends and families and neighbors because it takes a village to raise a child.
01:22:19Totally agree with you. Now, before we get on to the next question, I just want to let our viewers know that we will be sharing with you a video during this interview. And this video has each of the contestants, each of the 13 contestants. And you are invited to vote for them. How can you vote for them?
01:22:38You can go on their Facebook page. Yes. And you like on their pictures and that will determine Miss People's Choice. OK, so you can be a part of this pageant from even now by going on to the Facebook page of Miss Magnificent Mom. As I said, we'll be rolling the video so you'll get to see each of the contestants, each of the contestants in all their glory. And feel free to vote for the one of your choice.
01:23:08All right. So we've got Miss Dabadie.
01:23:38Hello, Trinidad and Tobago. My name is J.L. James. I am a proud mother of three vibrant children representing the vibrant community of Barataria.
01:23:53Hi, Trinidad and Tobago. I am Debra Dale-Pay, proud mother of six children representing Greenville, La Hocketta.
01:24:05Hi, Trinidad and Tobago. I am Alexandria Gordon-Rajnath, a proud mother of four representing the borough of Sequanas.
01:24:17Hello there, Trinidad and Tobago. My name is John L. Charles, mother of two, representing Miss Eldorado.
01:24:26Hi, Trinidad and Tobago. I am Rosemary Mitchell, mother of two, representing Carrapo.
01:24:36Hello, Trinidad and Tobago. I am Curlin Garrison, a mother of four, and I represent Sangre Grandi.
01:24:45Hi, Trinidad and Tobago. My name is Rinelle Allen De Freitas. I'm the mother of two wonderful young men, and I am representing St. Madeleine.
01:24:58Hi, Trinidad and Tobago. I am Jamila Constance, proud mother of one energetic little boy, Luke Cyan. I am representing the beautiful valley of Santa Cruz.
01:25:12Hola, bonjour. Hello, Trinidad and Tobago. I am Miguela Simon, the proud mother of one, and I represent the beautiful city of San Fernando.
01:25:27Greetings, Trinidad and Tobago. My name is Miss Latoya Ash, a mother of two, and I am representing the beautiful borough of Arima.
01:25:39Hi, Trinidad and Tobago. I am a proud mother of three beautiful young ladies, and the reigning Miss Magnificent Mom, Anastasia Richardson.
01:25:53I wish nothing but the best of luck to all the delegates this year, and remember, beauty and magnificence continues after motherhood. Thank you.
01:26:05All right, so we saw all 13 there, of course, introducing themselves. Did you find a lot of interest in Miss Magnificent Mom?
01:26:15Yes, yes. I must say each of the contestants came with their own strengths, and some of the weaknesses is where I tapped into to ensure that it was a cohesive group of contestants so they would look viable and ready to go on Saturday.
01:26:34So what are some of the opportunities for them? Is there a global or international event that they can attend?
01:26:40Actually, no. This is the only pageant of its kind. I'm glad that you asked that question because it's something I could probably discuss with Linda and we could take it to another level because I know it would be something that regional persons and international persons would be interested in.
01:26:55And of course, if we could find out from you, Miss Arima, your interest in this pageant. Were you always interested in pageants? Did you feel like being a mom precluded you from those opportunities and so on?
01:27:08I actually never thought of being in a pageant. This is my first pageant. It's part of self-care for me, and it builds my confidence. And it's an amazing opportunity for me to meet new persons and enjoy life as a mother.
01:27:27And what would you tell persons next year, next time around? How will you encourage them to be a part of this? Because there's this perception that beauty pageants are all about physique. It's all about the physical.
01:27:41Yeah, it's not only about the physical, but it's about your personality, your strengths, your weaknesses, because I've learned a lot in this pageant. And especially being my first pageant, how to walk and talk and etiquette and all these things. So it definitely builds character. Thank you.
01:27:59So tell us about the pageant. How can persons be a part of it? How can they purchase their tickets?
01:28:04Sure. Firstly, it will be at Cascadia Hotel on the 6th of July from 7pm. Tickets are $175 for adults, $125 for children between 5 to 12. And you can call 321-3037 for tickets.
01:28:22So we've got the information on the screen, guys. So you can, you know, purchase your tickets, you can be a part of it. And of course, we just showed the clip. If you've missed the clip, I'm pretty sure it's on your Facebook page of all the contestants. You get to see all 13 contestants and you can, of course, vote for your favorite and that will go towards the People's Choice. Aside from People's Choice, are there any special categories within the pageant?
01:28:43Yes, there are literally about close to 10. So named a few would be Miss Personality, Best Dress, Miss Talented, Miss Intelligent, Best Makeup. And some of the categories were pre-judged and some will be judged on the night by the actual judges.
01:28:59Okay. So as we close, you know, Jewel, if you could share with the young women of today, you know, we're in the age of women empowerment, not just breaking those glass ceilings, we're just going straight through. What words of advice would you have for those young persons out there? And particularly, I would want you to speak to those teenagers, young teenagers.
01:29:24We see so many school fights, these videos cropping up every day. If you could speak to them and inspire them, what would be, you know, words of advice that you could offer to them?
01:29:35I would tell the society, especially in the young era today, is that don't allow social media to fast track your own destiny. Be grounded within yourself and never give up on your goals or dreams in life.
01:29:52And finally, Latoya Ash, how would you speak to your supporters out there?
01:29:58To all of my supporters and even all the delegate supporters, I just want to tell everyone, thank you, thank you, thank you, because we needed the support and a lot of you rose to the occasion and we really do appreciate it. Thank you.
01:30:14So ladies, let me, it is now my opportunity to thank you for being here, for of course sharing with us those parting words of advice and so on and all the best with the event on Saturday.
01:30:25Thank you so much.
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01:33:36Welcome back Trinidad and Tobago.
01:33:58So we're now joined by a group of leadership members from various non-governmental organizations and nonprofit organizations
01:34:04which have come together to create what you can call a super NPU, which tackles a wide range of issues.
01:34:12This NPU is called the Love Company. To tell us more about the Love Company, we're joined by Soleil Marie Collins and Italia Samuel, who are both team members.
01:34:22Ladies, good morning to you and thank you so much for joining us.
01:34:26So, you know, it's really great to be joined in person by so many female guests, like the two segments before you.
01:34:34Yeah, woman power. You can describe it as that. So tell us about the Love Company. I'm not sure who will be willing to take this one.
01:34:42So the Love Company, basically we started in May. Joshua Hussein, who is our chairman, he basically reached out to me and other leaders of different NGOs.
01:34:51And he basically asked people who are civic, civically engaged in different things, people who are willing to volunteer in these kinds of projects, reaching out for mental health awareness, children, food, women, and joining as well.
01:35:07So everybody working together, we wanted to make a big group, everybody who wanted to be volunteers.
01:35:13So what about, would you be able to name some of the NGOs, the NPUs who are part of the Love Company?
01:35:21I could talk on my behalf as well, too, as a delegate in the Miss Universe competition and former Miss World.
01:35:28I also have a thali on Friends Foundation, so I could talk on that behalf.
01:35:33One of my challenges that I am championing right now is you develop mental empowerment and abuse.
01:35:39So that's the reason why I took up the demand to actually run with, I was like, all right, cool, I prefer to deal with women and children.
01:35:46And that is where I am in the group.
01:35:49So when they spoke to me on it, I was like, you know, this is a great initiative and it falls, it aligns with what I am doing as a person and also as an NGO myself, a founder of one.
01:36:00Sule, are you also attached with an individual?
01:36:03Yes, I am in different leadership roles.
01:36:05I am the vice chair of the Sexual Assault Survivor Stand.
01:36:08I am a member of the All-Inclusive TT and a bunch of other NGOs, church involvement, the St. John Presbyterian Church.
01:36:15And just being a leader in these different forums, having been able to work with different persons, we just try to get them involved.
01:36:22And how do we go about selecting these particular issues that you are seeking to tackle?
01:36:29Orphans, period poverty, homelessness, street animals, children with developmental disabilities, the physically disabled?
01:36:36These are generally issues that we see every day in our country and you don't really see it addressed specifically.
01:36:41So we try to accommodate for all those.
01:36:44Especially when you think about animals, you know, I am not the biggest with animals.
01:36:50However, it's really important that there are people who are, the animals are like family members, right?
01:36:56And especially like my sister, like her dogs are family members, I swear at this point.
01:37:02So I understand the need for also assisting persons like that.
01:37:06Even when we launched the new company here, we sent out £36,800 to hurricane persons, the victims.
01:37:20And in doing such, it allows for now, you know, ensuring that they keep their livestock alive and well fed.
01:37:27Because, I mean, a lot of persons are reaching out because even myself, I have family who are from St. Vincent and Grenada.
01:37:32My grandmother and they are from Kanawhan.
01:37:37And right now we're trying to also put stuff together for them as well to ensure that we're getting them clothes, food, even putting back roofs on their heads.
01:37:46So it's a lot of work.
01:37:48And however, a lot of persons are not focusing on one or two of the other things.
01:37:52So we are now coming together as an entity to ensure that happens for them.
01:37:57And how, what is the difference it makes with a single NGO attempting to tackle one issue, see, and the love company coming together and doing it?
01:38:13It's just pooling resources, basically.
01:38:15Yes, it will have different NGOs for different aspects.
01:38:17But when all the NGOs come together, the super NGO, we'll have a bigger, a larger resource pool to work with.
01:38:23And I'm not saying only NGOs, you know, because when I think about me as a unit, I'm pretty much a unit when I do work.
01:38:30And then we have so many other persons.
01:38:32They are just regular members who are like, you know what, I like this concept.
01:38:37I like the idea.
01:38:39Let us come together as a unit and actually help.
01:38:41Because, I mean, the more hands we have, the more we can do.
01:38:45And the more reach we can have, you can never know who knows someone.
01:38:47And a lot of the time we take for granted that, you know, somebody might actually know somebody else who could assist with a situation that we are actually trying to champion at the moment.
01:38:58You know, this love company reminds me of the network of NGOs that, you know, I think it still exists, but maybe not to the extent that you all are doing.
01:39:09And it seems as though, you know, as young women, you all are taking over that mantle.
01:39:13Let's talk a little bit about this Hurricane Beryl initiative.
01:39:18It's very interesting.
01:39:20How can persons be a part of it?
01:39:22And what do you, are you focusing, as you mentioned, on certain aspects, construction, taking care of animals, period, poverty, or are you just approaching it from a holistic?
01:39:34It's holistic.
01:39:35Because outside, before the hurricane happened, we were actually coming together to actually assist with period poverty.
01:39:43Different initiatives to help members so they can learn more on climate change.
01:39:47And to know that that happened at the same point in time, I was like, okay, this is destined to happen.
01:39:52Because we are now understanding the importance of actually pooling our resources, assisting someone to go to our class or so to get certified.
01:40:00So now it's not just about, you know, us as a company.
01:40:05It is now about us reaching out there to our members and ensuring that we are fully equipped in all surface of what we are doing.
01:40:13So, I mean, if you want to also include in the question.
01:40:17Well, basically, we're just trying to help in a big way.
01:40:20So having all these different resources to pull together that we were supposed to launch this weekend.
01:40:25Coincidentally, the hurricane happened.
01:40:26So everybody's sending clothes and non-perishable items and whatnot.
01:40:31I mean, you need your livestock to survive with things like this.
01:40:35So we cater for the animals.
01:40:37And later on, people who want to get involved, they could reach out to us.
01:40:40We have our email, thelovecompanytt at gmail.com.
01:40:44We have our social media page, Instagram, thelovecompanytt.
01:40:48And we also have our phone number, 388-5063.
01:40:51They could reach out and we have transportation sending things across.
01:40:55You have organized vessels to take the items across.
01:40:59So all they need to do is to bring items to you.
01:41:02And we must say a special thank you to Vemco and National Flower Mills as well for making this happen.
01:41:08Because without them, I am telling you, it would not be possible at all.
01:41:12So we want to say thank you to them.
01:41:14Their role? Was it with the vessel shipment?
01:41:16I believe it was with the shipment.
01:41:18The shipment of food.
01:41:20I mean, that's a lot.
01:41:22I mean, 36,800 pounds of food is really a lot.
01:41:26And we were hoping that we could actually do more in the near future.
01:41:30So a key aspect of NGOs is non-governmental.
01:41:36So you're not associated with government.
01:41:39You're not associated with profits, non-profits.
01:41:42But does government have a role?
01:41:44Or how do you see these issues as a whole of society?
01:41:49Issues that you all can tackle individually or as a love company?
01:41:55Do you really think that...
01:41:57Is it thinking that government does not need to be involved in, for instance, poverty, homelessness, street animals?
01:42:04Oh, no. They are definitely going to be involved sooner or later.
01:42:08I mean, we're going to speak to them.
01:42:10Because, again, we are pooling resources.
01:42:11At the end of the day, they are also part of the D-Unit called Trinidad and Tobago.
01:42:16And it would be remiss of us to not even say we're reaching out to them.
01:42:20Of course, there are certain authorities we can't cross.
01:42:22So we would actually need their assistance to get certain things done.
01:42:26We may not always get money in hand.
01:42:28They would probably be able to just do the lot for us.
01:42:31So at the end of the day, it's really and truly both hands clapping at this point in time.
01:42:36So us as citizens of Trinidad and Tobago and the government being able to share hand in hand.
01:42:42It's not about picking sides at all.
01:42:44We are not about that.
01:42:46It's all about all hands on deck at this moment.
01:42:49And it's not just... I mean, we have a stomping home, too.
01:42:52But we understand the need for abroad to actually be helped at this point in time as well.
01:42:57And, of course, does that mean that you're calling on citizens to not look at political lines when it comes to certain things?
01:43:04Yes, definitely.
01:43:06Because as a proud citizen of Trinidad and Tobago, we should want to be willing and wanting to take part in these kinds of things to get the betterment.
01:43:13You have to be the change you want to see in this world.
01:43:15You know, willingness and volunteerism and civic engagement.
01:43:18All these things are important as an individual.
01:43:21What does it do for you both?
01:43:23Well, for me, I could say it adds to what I stand for as a person.
01:43:28I'm already hands-on when it comes to doing work, when it comes to even our destitutes.
01:43:34Even for Miss World, I championed homelessness and HIV-AIDS personnel.
01:43:40And it was really something fulfilling for me as an individual to know that I can assist in any form or fashion.
01:43:46During the course of the COVID-19, when we were hearing that, you know, vagrants were being charged without masks,
01:43:54I reached out to my people and this is exactly what it is.
01:43:59I reached out to them, a lot of our local designers actually contributed, which was so, so touching.
01:44:04And I went out there, I received whatever it was to create nice packages, I could give it to them.
01:44:10And now in this hindsight, I was doing Miss Universe Trinidad and Tobago.
01:44:14It's so much, it's tenfold.
01:44:16It's like repeating itself, but in a different way and a more, how to say, crafted and more monitored for me.
01:44:26So now I'm actually working at Ministry of Youth Development and National Service.
01:44:30I'm actually, I don't know, all the stars aligned for me when it comes to doing what I do now.
01:44:35So working with women and children and also working with the youth of Trinidad and Tobago is really sentimental to me.
01:44:41And coming from a household that faced domestic violence as well.
01:44:44I actually, it is a personal journey to assist in any form or fashion.
01:44:51And it's not, for me, I don't make money from this and I don't need to make money from this.
01:44:55It's a self-fulfilling movement that I am doing when it comes to what I, I think it's part of my purpose here in life.
01:45:02So if people think it's money, none of us, we're getting paid for this, it's not about making money at all.
01:45:08If you want to assist in the cause, we will definitely be here waiting with open arms.
01:45:14What about you, Soleil? What does, you know, civic involvement, volunteerism do for you?
01:45:20I've generally been involved in volunteering because it's something I'm passionate about.
01:45:25I really like helping. I'm generally a helpful person.
01:45:28But dealing with things in my past, you know, mental health issues and abuse and whatnot.
01:45:35Hearing the different stories from persons.
01:45:38Me as a person, I would want to hear your story and help you out.
01:45:42So having that passion in me, I fall everywhere.
01:45:46You could see me in any NGO, try to help out as best as I can.
01:45:49So with my different involvement in the Sexual Assault Survivors Stand, All Inclusive TT,
01:45:54we just wrote a bullying prevention book, which was launched Wednesday as well.
01:45:58And just all these different initiatives, you know, all these NGOs coming together.
01:46:01I believe in betterment for myself and for people.
01:46:06So the Love Movement, how did we go about choosing that name?
01:46:09Well, it was a bunch of us just trying to churn out names there.
01:46:15And, you know, when we really think about who we are as people, we really just want to show love.
01:46:21And, you know, it was very telling of us as a unit that everyone was really, like,
01:46:26when in hearing the ideas, everyone was like, you know, we're about love.
01:46:31Like, how do we like, hold on. So it's a bit of pooling with the name.
01:46:36I mean, a lot of people would be like, oh, they come with TLC, you know, the song like the group.
01:46:40But for us, it was more of, you know, it's a personal thing.
01:46:43Like all of us, all we wanted to do is share love and be like, OK, this is who we are.
01:46:49And we gravitated to that name.
01:46:51I think it's a perfect name. It's a perfect name.
01:46:52So donations to Hurricane Relief.
01:46:55What are some other events or projects you'll be you'll be working on that people can get involved in?
01:47:03Right. So we had the donations.
01:47:06We are in the process of having a pad drive.
01:47:09We will announce that later on.
01:47:11We have in a school drive at the end of July.
01:47:13So if you have books, bags, pencils, pencil cases, sharpeners, school supplies, we could have those donations.
01:47:19Basically, we're looking for crowdfunding from not only private sectors, but from persons who are interested in contributing to the cause.
01:47:27So the pad drive, the school drive we're having.
01:47:31There are so many things because I believe in seven things that we're actually championing as a unit.
01:47:36So mental health, the animals as well.
01:47:39We're thinking about children and women.
01:47:42So it's a lot of things that we are now uncovering because, again, we're new.
01:47:46So we're putting things together when it comes to us and what is really close to us.
01:47:52So I usually do a book drive every year.
01:47:55So hence the reason why it's something that we're actually pushing forward to do.
01:47:59It happens usually August, but I mean, I'm doing Miss Universe.
01:48:02I'm also having to pull some of the things I have to do up front.
01:48:06However, even though if it's launched now, the distributions will be done in August.
01:48:10I mean, the time frame would be perfect.
01:48:12You know, sometimes when I would just do like personal charity hampers, that kind of thing.
01:48:19And I just put out a call on social media, for instance, you know, if you need to just respond.
01:48:25And I thought initially doing something like that would bring me that level of fulfillment.
01:48:33But being inundated, having 20 hampers or 10 hampers to give out and being inundated with 100 calls.
01:48:42It's kind of daunting.
01:48:44But it was a reality to me that the needs out there even surpassed what I was able to give.
01:48:52Do you face that?
01:48:54Listen, I mean, I don't know what time we have.
01:48:58It's too long of a story, but let me tell you.
01:49:01Even something I'm doing recently here with styling two young ladies for their graduation.
01:49:08And this is out of pocket.
01:49:09One or two of my friends come and they are also assisting with that.
01:49:14And let me tell you, the amount of other people from schools reached out.
01:49:20And I'm like, I wish I could, but I really can't.
01:49:24And I have to now be tunnel vision with these young ladies because I want them to look so good.
01:49:29I want them to feel special.
01:49:31I mean, it isn't the most like $10,000 dress or whatever the case may be.
01:49:34Because this is now persons coming together to actually ensure that you are seen about.
01:49:39So the hair is sponsored, the nails are sponsored.
01:49:42I have two different friends who came together to sponsor shoes.
01:49:45So when I think about, you know, the unit that I have around me, I really feel good.
01:49:51But then thinking about how much, like how many others out there who need that same assistance, it breaks my heart.
01:49:59So it is heartbreaking because sometimes tickets for these graduations are like $500.
01:50:02So they also have to pay for that.
01:50:04And then they may want their parent to go or let's just say they pay to go with them.
01:50:10It's really, really a tough situation.
01:50:12I mean, I didn't get to go to my graduation.
01:50:14I think that is why I'm pushing for it more.
01:50:16I was just about to say that.
01:50:18Can you imagine how many girls, boys out there who just will not this year will not attend a graduation just simply because it's out of the reach of their own parents and they know it.
01:50:27So they'll be like, you know.
01:50:29Not even the stories that they sent to me.
01:50:32And when I tell you, it really and truly let you seep into understanding how blessed we are as people to be able to even afford a little something.
01:50:42I know what it is to be homeless a little bit, you know, because we lost our house and, you know, bunking my family.
01:50:49It is not the best thing to do.
01:50:51I mean, I'm sharing this information because I want people to understand it's never about just me.
01:50:55I think holistically, like there is somebody else who is going through something that I have been through or probably even worse.
01:51:02So I think about those moments and this is why love is so close to me and hence the reason why I don't mind, you know, like lending a helping hand to the group at all.
01:51:12Like for me personally, if I had the world of money, I could help the whole of Trinidad.
01:51:16I know. So I'm like, God, just give me the money and I'll help.
01:51:19I will do it.
01:51:20It's really hard to like focus on one major group and say, OK, I'm going to help these people.
01:51:25But then what about them? So that's why we have these seven different arms to try and cover that scope.
01:51:30I mean, we can't help everybody as much as I want to.
01:51:33I can't, but once at least they're helping.
01:51:36So how do you in that case prioritize the needs?
01:51:40Well, you ask. You do surveys and you ask, what are your needs? What do you need?
01:51:44And then people said, let me tell you, I'm sure between now and getting off the set, we may get someone who might email or send a text or WhatsApp stating their issue.
01:51:55And again, as much as we may want to help each and everyone, it's how much we can do.
01:52:03And again, this is sometimes, let's just say if it's a house situation.
01:52:06I mean, we're not working with the entity for housing or whatever, but we might know someone who has a connection to someone who has bricks who might want to donate those things.
01:52:18But that's essentially the goal, you know, like because people will have these different resources, somebody will have bricks, cement, labor.
01:52:24You know, people want to come together. We want to have that super entity.
01:52:28I could paint, I'm just saying, I could come out and paint.
01:52:31So let's put it out there that into the universe that you won't get calls necessarily from people that need, but you'll get calls from people who are willing to help.
01:52:40Yes, I could say I do have a really nice dress that can't fit me anymore.
01:52:45Thank you. I will actually donate because another group who also reached out to the Miss Universe Crowns and Sashes, they wanted some dresses.
01:52:55So I could also.
01:52:56So we unfortunately in the height of it, we do have to go to a break.
01:53:00Let me thank you ladies so much for joining us.
01:53:02And of course, you can contact the Love Company at the Love Company TT.
01:53:06Reach out to them on their social media handles 3885036.
01:53:10Reach out to them.
01:53:126050605063.
01:53:14Reach out to them and make your donations.
01:53:16They it's the love movement and they're just spreading the love.
01:53:19Thank you so much for having us.
01:53:21Now time for a quick break.
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01:54:53We had a really riveting show this morning.
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