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00:00to do something, but I did it without thinking about the consequences that this was going to bring me.
00:09Logically, because of the crime that I have committed, if I were out now, I would not have done it.
00:18You would not have done it?
00:20No.
00:22But it's too late.
00:27Now what do I have left?
00:29To try to overcome myself and start again, that is, to regain my freedom
00:35because of the opportunities they give me here,
00:39the opportunity that the Gendarmerie gives me to be able to opt for some benefit,
00:45either daily or conditional.
00:49Germán, you were about to commit a perfect crime.
00:56Have you thought about that night, about that mistake, after having had everything calculated?
01:04No, because in those moments one goes through an uncertainty of thought,
01:15which are hundreds of thoughts that, well, at a given moment one always has a point of view,
01:23which was the one in which we made the mistake, or my partner made the mistake,
01:34of having made such a call in an inappropriate part.
01:39Are you not going to do it again if you leave here?
01:43Or are you going to perfect yourself so that those mistakes are not made again?
01:47No, I tell you honestly, I don't want to go to jail or to the police anymore.
01:54Yes, I don't know what I'm going to do outside.
01:58It depends on what society, how society reacts to me.
02:01I'm going to try to fight for a job, I don't know, but my intentions are not to get anywhere.
02:15Because I'm not from here.
02:17Germán, you were obviously not a man accustomed to jails, and you've had a hard time.
02:24Could you tell me what are the biggest punishments you've been given while in jail?
02:33Well, punishment number one, which I could call, in terms of personal,
02:39not being able to see my son during these eight years,
02:44which I love him very much and I stopped seeing him when he was seven months old.
02:50And do you keep that there?
02:53Yes, always.
02:55No matter what happens, I will always have him in my mind and in my heart, he is my son.
03:00He has no fault that I am here, that I have separated from his mother, all that.
03:08He doesn't have to pay for that.
03:11But yes, my intentions are to get out of here and show him that I am a father,
03:16like anyone else who is on the street.
03:19You don't know your son, practically?
03:22No, he doesn't know me.
03:26So it's very painful.
03:29I could say that it's one of the biggest punishments I'm paying in this world.
03:40This is the mirror of life, the one that treats us with irony
03:45and that underlines the pain of not being able to erase the past,
03:49simply because the damage has already been done.
03:54When was this young father going to imagine that kidnapping a stranger's son,
04:00he would lose his forever,
04:03since he has been serving his sentence here in the prison of Colina,
04:07he never saw him again.
04:20THE KIDNAPPING
04:28It was the mea culpa of Germán Núñez on such a serious crime,
04:32considered by society as kidnapping.
04:35We are already with our panelists to start this conversation immediately.
04:39We are accompanied, as every Wednesday, by the criminologist Andrés Domínguez,
04:43who is also a professor at the Instituto Superior de Investigaciones.
04:47He is also with us the doctor in psychology Jorge Agostine,
04:51professor at the Instituto Superior de Carabineros.
04:54And, as always, Carlos Pinto, the general director of mea culpa.
04:58But our opportunity, we have for the first time with us,
05:02as a guest of this panel of conversation,
05:04one of the relatives, in this case, of the victim of kidnapping.
05:08She is with us, the mother of the minor who was kidnapped,
05:11Mrs. Silvia Galleguillos, to whom we welcome to this space of conversation.
05:16Good evening, thank you very much for being with us.
05:19I think it is very important the contribution that you can make to us,
05:22to know very closely what a mother lives when a child is kidnapped.
05:27How were those 48 hours for you?
05:30They were horrible, they were very bad.
05:34I think it's the worst thing I've ever had to live in my life.
05:38There are no words, there are no feelings.
05:42You transform, you are not a human being.
05:46I don't know, many things happen to you that I think are difficult to repeat.
05:50With all this program, they have removed something that I had forgotten.
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