00:00There's this oil, moisturizer, or are you just that?
00:05I don't know, just naturally.
00:06You have that natural sheen.
00:07Yeah.
00:08Hi, everyone.
00:09I'm Jodie Comer.
00:10And I'm Austin Butler.
00:11And we're here doing Notes on a Scene with Vanity Fair for the bike riders.
00:15You see that?
00:18They're playing or something.
00:22Look at all of them whispering over there.
00:27So the scene we're about to watch is the moment in the movie where Kathy, my character, and
00:33Benny, Austin's character, they meet for the first time.
00:36And it's Kathy's initial introduction to the Vandals as a whole.
00:43Okay, so this is the one and only Tom Hardy.
00:47Exactly.
00:48And Tom is the, I guess, the king of the...
00:54He's the leader of the Vandals.
00:55The leader of the pack.
00:56He's the top dog.
00:59So here we have many members of the Vandals played by Boyd, Emery, Bo, and Carl.
01:07And these guys were incredible.
01:08I feel like whenever we were in these scenes, Jeff was often asking them to essentially
01:16improvise.
01:17And I feel like I was constantly overhearing all the stuff that they were coming up with.
01:22And I feel like they really created a little bromance.
01:28There was a lot of love going on here.
01:29There was a lot of love.
01:30There was a lot of love.
01:31Yeah.
01:32Yeah.
01:33I love this, what Carl's wearing here.
01:34It's just the vest with nothing else.
01:35Yeah.
01:36Oh, yeah, because Kathy makes that comment.
01:38In the real audio of Kathy, one of her vivid memories was that these guys had their belly
01:42buttons showing.
01:43Oh, yeah.
01:44That's right.
01:45She's like, I walked into this bar and these guys had their belly buttons showing.
01:49Yeah.
01:50Yeah.
01:51It's quite a fashion choice.
01:52They're all wonderful.
01:53I'm going to go.
01:54And that's when I seen Benny, standing over at the pool table.
02:03When I first met Jeff, he'd sent the script and then made me aware that he had like 30
02:08minutes of audio interviewing her in the 1960s.
02:12And I knew she was from North Chicago, but a lot of her vowel sounds were total contradictions.
02:16So it wasn't about like doing a great Chicago accent.
02:19It was just about kind of like dissecting it and trying to get the cadence right.
02:23She spoke very quickly.
02:25She was always on to the next thought while she was speaking about one thing.
02:28But yeah, some brilliant accents in this.
02:31That was the difference in my process was, and in a way it's freeing when you don't have
02:38any reference, but it also, then I had to sort of figure out, well, how does Benny fit
02:45into the tapestry of the whole project?
02:48And so I learned a lot about Benny from what everybody else said about him because he was
02:52never interviewed.
02:54I feel like this is a very iconic shot, right?
02:58This is the moment where Kathy sets her eyes on Benny for the first time.
03:03And she always kind of spoke about how when she set her eyes on him, she was like, oh
03:08my God, who is this guy?
03:10She's about to leave the bar and has stopped in her tracks and then goes back to her seat
03:16so she doesn't miss out.
03:18Yeah, I mean, the cinematography is so incredible.
03:21Adam Stone.
03:23And this moment as well is directly influenced by, in the photography book, there's an image
03:30of Benny and you just see the top of his head, but he's leaning over the pool table.
03:35And so that's this moment that we're capturing.
03:38And then we've got your Benny tattoo.
03:40Yeah, yeah.
03:41Just in case I forget my name.
03:42What's the point?
03:44It just reminds me who I am.
03:46Such an incredible shot.
03:48Do you remember the kind of like glass panes that were in the windows?
03:51And they had the pool table, jukebox.
03:55It was very, it felt very authentic.
03:58Like it was, you kind of felt like you'd step back in time.
04:02It was beautiful what the team had done.
04:04Boy, who's that good looking guy over at the pool table?
04:08I love your reaction in this moment because I couldn't see, I was so far away, I couldn't
04:13quite tell.
04:15And the reaction on your face is just always tickles me.
04:18Well, I don't think I'd spoken to Danny Lyon until we were on the shoot on set.
04:25And I actually think he came to set when we were shooting this scene because it was a
04:29huge ensemble scene, so everybody was in.
04:31And I just remember him saying that Cathy was, she was very smart.
04:36You know, she was kind of underestimated, but that she was smarter than them all.
04:40Yeah.
04:41And I think he told me that Benny was beautiful, but very dumb, if I remember correctly.
04:49Perfect.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Cathy, you don't want to go out with him.
04:54Why not?
04:55I don't look like the rest of these animals.
04:57Because nobody wants to go out with him.
04:59Why?
05:00Because he cracks up on his bike.
05:02Every time he gets up on his bike, he has an accident.
05:05Oh.
05:06Okay.
05:07Let me get you a pop.
05:08So this moment, this was, so Tom was sitting over, he's like sitting over here, and yeah,
05:33there he is.
05:34And he drew some angry eyebrows.
05:37Sorry.
05:38So that's Tom, with his spiky hair.
05:43And we were rehearsing the scene, and I still don't know if he was joking the first time
05:49he said it, but he said, you got to turn the chair around.
05:53And because we were figuring out how I was going to come up and see you.
05:57Because he kind of, the whole plan was that Benny kind of sneaks up, but you know, he
06:01kind of comes and she hasn't seen him.
06:04Yeah.
06:05And he shows up and says hello.
06:06And he told me to turn the chair around.
06:08And I took it as a challenge, and I said, I can, I'm going to turn that chair around.
06:12I'm Benny.
06:14Hello.
06:15I love your reaction here.
06:20These little eye movements, you are so good.
06:27So what are we doing here, just shooting the breeze?
06:31Oh God, the smoking, like so much smoking in this film, like these sets absolutely stunk.
06:41There was like a hue everywhere you went, you know, like a kind of just mist of like,
06:45the smoke was being so contained in this tiny little bar, which is, I guess, very real and
06:50true to what it would have, it would have been like.
06:53Let's talk about Aaron.
06:54Yes.
06:55Brilliant costume designer.
06:58I mean, every detail from what we're wearing to everybody that you see in the background,
07:03she thought about every detail here.
07:05I mean, what was great with Aaron was, I mean, she already has, I mean, she's so talented
07:09and she herself has such an innate sense of style and kind of instincts.
07:14So what was really fun was when we met for the first time, we just kind of chatted about
07:19the images that we had.
07:20Like I think I had three images of Cathy at the time and, you know, she asked me what
07:24I noticed or was there anything that I felt was really kind of necessary, that I wanted.
07:30And there was some things like, Cathy loved the tank, loved texture, you know, everything
07:34was kind of fuzzy or ribbed or, you know, really kind of lived in.
07:39Her pants always looked like they were a little bit ill-fitted.
07:43You know, a lot of the images of the women in Dani's work, you know, they were just immaculately
07:50kind of dressed, whether it be, you know, makeup or clothing.
07:54And Cathy was always a little bit, a little bit messy, a little bit undone, you know,
08:00looked like she'd kind of either come off the back of a bike or been carrying her kids
08:05and the kids had been pulling at her kind of beehive.
08:08And so it was those kinds of things that we we really wanted to keep.
08:16I guess.
08:20Well, I got to go home.
08:23Oh, OK.
08:40You got to go.
08:42I remember this bit when she's like, I got to go home.
08:45And you're like, go on then.
08:47You know, it's kind of like that moment of like, go on then.
08:49And she just stays there.
08:52You don't move.
08:53No.
08:53And then he goes.
08:55And then she's like, oh, God.
09:03One thing that I love when Jeff talks about is the the idea of nostalgia,
09:09nostalgia for a time and an environment that doesn't really exist anymore.
09:13Yeah.
09:14And that's, you know, some of what he was capturing with this
09:19is even as time goes on and these characters are now older,
09:24you know how they would look back on this time in life.
09:28When Kathy falls in love with Benny, she falls in love with all, you know,
09:31everything about him in a sense of his kind of he's not tethered to anything.
09:36You know, he's he's very free and and and does his own thing.
09:41And there's a mystery there and a law.
09:44And over time, those are the things that end up causing quite a lot of friction
09:47as the as the group becomes a little bit more kind of engulfed in crime.
09:53And I think as a result of that, she kind of wants to take him away
09:57from the vandals, you know, I guess, for them to, you know,
10:01experience love in a different way and for her to have him around her
10:04more kind of selfishly, but from a from a good place.
10:09And yeah. Great.
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