'' PML N Ka Yeh Hi Masla PDM Hukoomat Mein Tha Aur Is Wajah Se Hum Hukoomat Mein Nahi Ja Rahay.'',

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00:00Assalamu alaikum, Gajjup sir, how are you?

00:07I am fine.

00:08Today, your party has troubled everyone by saying that we will not go to the budget

00:15meeting.

00:16For a minute, people said, what is happening?

00:19What will happen to the government?

00:21But I heard later, I spoke to Noonwala.

00:24He said, you yourself were present in the briefings on the budget.

00:28Noon gave you a briefing.

00:30You agreed on everything.

00:32Where is the problem now?

00:34No, you have heard Noonwala's version, you have not heard our version.

00:39We did not agree on anything.

00:42They did give us a briefing, but the issues we highlighted, they did not give any solution

00:50to it and did not give any answer to it either.

00:54So, Mr. Kashyap, this Noon's sorry to say, this was also our problem in the PTM government

01:01and today, because of this, we are not going to the government.

01:05So, this is the problem even today.

01:07Sir, tell me one thing, we will have to ask you what the issues are so that we can write

01:11them in bold letters so that we know that if these issues are solved, the People's Party

01:14will vote or else it will not vote.

01:16Otherwise, it will look like I was giving an example of Punjabi on TV today.

01:19By the way, you know Punjabi, right?

01:21You must have learned from Mr. Zardari.

01:23The example of Punjabi is that if you eat a scorpion, you will get a roll.

01:27Do you also get a roll?

01:29And do you also do charity from time to time?

01:31No, no, there is no such thing.

01:34We are not eating anything.

01:36There is no such thing.

01:38Look, let me tell you, this was the problem in the PDM government as well.

01:43And today, Chairman Bilawal called a parliamentary meeting so that we can decide our future.

01:53So, if Noon wants to do the same thing as they did last time, then it is obvious that

02:01we will have to take some position somewhere.

02:04But sir, first tell us the issues.

02:06These are the issues.

02:08If Noon does not become a human being, then we will leave the government.

02:12No, we will support the budget.

02:14Tell us those issues so that we can have a scale on which you can assess

02:17what you have decided at this time and why you have changed it in the future.

02:22Look, let me tell you, no decision has been made.

02:25No decision has been made.

02:27And we are not in the government, so how can we leave it?

02:30So, I am just telling you that the issues are typical budget issues.

02:35Discussion on PSDP.

02:37The new taxes that you are going to impose on them.

02:42The NFC that you are going to discuss.

02:45The NFC that you want to patent.

02:48The price fixing that you want to end on commodities.

02:53Whatever these things are, you need to discuss this and take our view and come to a conclusion.

03:02And this opportunity has been given again and again.

03:05But there is a briefing and after that, the matter ends.

03:10So, if the PMLN government does privatization,

03:13they say that we are selling everything, what will the People's Party do?

03:17Look, when the PDM government was on privatization,

03:22the People's Party had given them a framework and had agreed on it

03:27that if you do privatization on this framework, then we have no objection.

03:31And if you don't do it on it, then they are going to privatize.

03:34No.

03:35We agreed on privatization.

03:38Sir, you were talking about a public-private partnership, right?

03:41That if you sell a part, you should not sell the rest.

03:43Yes.

03:44So, if they don't do this, they say that we are selling, then?

03:47Look, privatization is also a public-private partnership.

03:51But it depends how you do it.

03:54You sold PTCL, that is also a public-private partnership.

03:58Till date, there are shares in the government.

04:00All the banks have shares in the government.

04:03It is not like that.

04:04There will be a minority share, but there is a share.

04:06You are saying that this is right.

04:08Yes, absolutely.

04:09Look, there are different ways and different types of privatization.

04:14So, in that, a public-private partnership is one way of privatization.

04:21So, because we have experience and we have done that in many projects in the government of Sindh,

04:28So, we gave them a proposal that instead of taking something and giving it to someone,

04:34And in this, you should make such a structure that the government should also be there,

04:40And the operator should also be there.

04:44And it should be a successful model.

04:47And the employees should also be addressed.

04:49And the things that we are concerned about should also be addressed.

04:55So, we have never said anything that has not been addressed.

04:59So, you think this will not be a sticking point.

05:01But a big sticking point can come.

05:03A big voice has started coming.

05:04Mr. Mifta has said, Mr. Zubair is sitting.

05:06Mr. Zubair has said that this cannot happen immediately.

05:08Because, of course, the People's Party is a major stakeholder.

05:10I am talking about the NFC award.

05:11But Mr. Mifta says that without revising it, without reviewing it, it will not go ahead.

05:16Because since the NFC has come, if our loan was increasing at this rate before,

05:20Now it has increased at this rate.

05:22And today, the amount of tax that we collect, how are we returning it?

05:28NFC.

05:29But the second question related to this is that Sindh will have to raise its tax too.

05:35In Karachi, I was giving examples in the first part of the program.

05:39Sometimes we listen to the example of Pune.

05:41Sometimes we listen to the example of Tehran.

05:42Sometimes we hear that London collects so much tax.

05:44Maybe so and so collects so much tax.

05:46These people collect more tax than the total tax collection of our country.

05:50So, is this also a thought that if we do not give NFC and if we have to do it,

05:55then at least generate tax from here and give it to someone.

05:58Look, Mr. Kashyap, Karachi collects the most tax even today.

06:03I want you to keep this program on tax one day.

06:07In which you ask for all the details of tax.

06:11From where, from where, what tax is collected?

06:13Okay.

06:14You must have seen, Mr. Shabbar Zaidi was doing a program on your channel.

06:18He was saying that there is a market of Karachi that gives more tax than the whole of Lahore.

06:24So, what I am trying to tell you is that there is no problem in increasing tax.

06:31But only Karachi will not increase the tax.

06:34Sir, I am saying that this question should be asked from all provinces that every province should generate its tax.

06:39Whether it is its sales tax, whether it is property tax.

06:46You go to London, sir.

06:48There is a parking of two and a half pounds, four pounds per hour.

06:52If you enter the city, they give you a congestion charge.

06:55Now they have put a new tax in London city.

06:58They have put a tax on pollution.

07:00If this happens, they will give this tax.

07:02If this happens, they will give this tax.

07:03There are council taxes.

07:04There are road taxes.

07:05The problem here is that you talk about tax generation.

07:08Someone told me that because you have a port, all the tax there goes to your books.

07:13All the head offices are in your city.

07:16Their tax goes to the books of Karachi.

07:18How much tax does the city of Karachi itself impose?

07:20This is the real thing, sir.

07:22Sir, I am ready to debate on this too.

07:25I am not talking about the head office.

07:28I am not talking about those things that the head offices are there for people.

07:33They file there.

07:34We are not talking about that.

07:35These people are going in a different direction.

07:37I am talking about the net Karachi tax collection.

07:40Nothing to do with the head office of a company is there.

07:43But I want this misunderstanding to be removed.

07:47Lahore, Peshawar and Quetta should collect their taxes.

07:52They should impose taxes.

07:54Where Wafaaq is told to impose taxes, the provinces should also impose taxes.

07:57Absolutely. You are right.

07:59But the Wafaaq tax, the sale tax that Wafaaq collects, it is not imposed.

08:07Sir, why don't they impose it?

08:09This is the problem.

08:10Why don't politicians impose their taxes in the provinces?

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