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00:00:00It's Wednesday, June 12th, and thank you very much for joining us this morning.
00:00:21It's a cool, calm, and clear Port of Spain today.
00:00:27I was driving down this morning, I could see all of the buildings.
00:00:31So it would seem that, well, I don't want to talk too quickly because I'm sure that
00:00:35the sun is now rising, but I feel at that time there was not too much Sahara dust or
00:00:42Saharan dust in the air, all right?
00:00:44But still walk with your mask, those who are suffering with the allergies and so on.
00:00:49How was your night?
00:00:50Yeah?
00:00:51Did we get any rain last night in my area?
00:00:54I don't think that we got any, you know, but I'm thankful for the rain.
00:00:58I am very much thankful for the rain, and I'm sure that they have impacted our reservoirs,
00:01:04all right?
00:01:05And hopefully we could see, I don't know how soon, but we could see the lifting of restrictions
00:01:12by the Water and Sewage Authority sometime soon.
00:01:14I never said that we have to lift restrictions.
00:01:17I'm just saying, because of the reservoirs filling, there may be a plan by the Water
00:01:24and Sewage Authority to do that soon, yeah?
00:01:26All right, so I hope that you're having a good day, and thank you very much for joining
00:01:30us this morning.
00:01:31All right, let's check out the Daily Express.
00:01:33Column blasts Kamla on false claim of that increase.
00:01:38Total untruth, ridiculous accusation.
00:01:41Minister of Finance Colin Minbert moves the second reading of the Finance Supplementary
00:01:45Appropriation Financial Year 2024 bill, 2024 yesterday, in the Parliament.
00:01:51And schoolgirl raped in Tobago.
00:01:54FUL holder takes Earler to court.
00:01:57Child left in vehicle.
00:01:59Father charged with cruelty.
00:02:01And Rudder rallies for the West Indies.
00:02:03Calypso legend, Calypsonian David Michael Rudder, sings his iconic song, Rally Round
00:02:08the West Indies during his pre-performance rehearsal at the Brian Lauer Cricket Academy
00:02:13Taruba near San Fernando yesterday afternoon.
00:02:16The Calypso legend will be performing today ahead of the ICC T20 Cricket World Cup encounter
00:02:23between West Indies and New Zealand, which will boil off at 8.30 p.m. at the same venue.
00:02:28And let's go to sport now, yeah?
00:02:30So high-stakes game, West Indies face Blackcaps in crucial group stage encounter, a high-stakes
00:02:36battle will take place between West Indies and New Zealand at the Brian Lauer Cricket
00:02:41Academy in Taruba tonight.
00:02:43Weather permitting, the two teams will walk into the field at approximately 8.30 p.m.
00:02:48in front of a likely capacity crowd of about, get this, 14,500 fans in a crucial ICC Men's
00:02:58T20 World Cup Group C match, which could determine who advances to the Super 8 stage, yeah?
00:03:04We do have a lot of fans, a lot of cricket fans in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:03:1014,500 fans, and of course the authorities have said that they have put everything in
00:03:15place to make your trip to the stadium seamless, all right?
00:03:21So we're hoping that everything goes well and there's a great level of maturity by everyone
00:03:29to do what you have to do and not cause any problems down there and just get into the
00:03:33stadium, take in your cricket, and reach home safe, all right?
00:03:37So it's time to remind you about Trinbago United's future.
00:03:39Remember to participate, WhatsApp your videos or images to 7373-778, all right?
00:03:45Yeah, this is nice, man.
00:03:47Yeah, a feeling to go there right now, put down a beach chair, and just take it in, yeah?
00:03:54You didn't see where this was, right?
00:03:57You find it looks Las Cuevas-ish, you find so?
00:04:02Yeah?
00:04:03I could be wrong, but yeah, it looks like that, all right?
00:04:08So thank you very much to the person who sent that to us this morning.
00:04:12It gives you a sort of calming feeling, yeah?
00:04:14And every now and then, we do need that.
00:04:16So thank you to all of you who continue to send your videos and photographs to us.
00:04:20We do appreciate it.
00:04:21As I said, you don't have to put your government name, but just put something now so that we
00:04:25can say a very special good morning to you.
00:04:26You have your coffee, your tea, get something to eat, because we're coming back.
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00:08:34I'm Charles Jason Gordon, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Port of Spain.
00:08:38I am on board in the TTPS fight against crime.
00:08:42We are all on board.
00:09:00Welcome back, everyone.
00:09:25So, studio, you're in a very good mood this morning.
00:09:28You hear the music that studio has given you.
00:09:30Who's the DJ this morning?
00:09:32Chris?
00:09:33All right.
00:09:34Good morning.
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00:09:39So, let's discuss a very serious issue now.
00:09:41So, the murder toll for this year thus far has been put at 258 with the killing of a man in Valencia.
00:09:47He's identified as Shobin Coxell.
00:09:49But, of course, this fatal shooting comes over the heels of a recent shooting in Gonzales
00:09:55and the subsequent gun attack at the Port of Spain General Hospital, which left four men dead.
00:09:59On the line this morning is criminologist Dr. Randy Siposad.
00:10:02Dr. Siposad, thank you very much for joining us this morning.
00:10:05Hi.
00:10:06Good morning.
00:10:07My pleasure.
00:10:08Of course, and let me just tell you that Dr. Siposad, he's en route to another destination this morning.
00:10:13So, we do appreciate him still taking the time to speak with us this morning.
00:10:17Dr. Siposad, as you look at the recent events that have taken place, what do you make of it?
00:10:24Well, the thing is, a number of things strikes me about that particular event,
00:10:28especially the one where the perpetrators followed the victims to the hospital and continued their assault.
00:10:36That signals to me that the level of deterrence of the criminal justice system for some persons
00:10:43has reached a point where it's very near to or at zero, right?
00:10:48And it signals that something needs to be very seriously done to remedy that,
00:10:53whether we change the perception that there would be sanctions if criminal acts are committed
00:10:59or the actuality of it.
00:11:01So, the police service certainly needs to engage in some kind of activity.
00:11:07It's certainly not the police alone that deals with clearance rates,
00:11:12but we do need to take a deep dive into the factors that affect the clearance rates
00:11:17and put measures in place.
00:11:19So, whether it has to do with the processing of information of crime scenes,
00:11:23whether it has to do with training, whether it has to do with technology,
00:11:27whether it has to do with the efficiency of the forensic science center, etc.,
00:11:31even whether it has to do with witnesses being willing to provide information
00:11:35and the ability of the country and the protective services to protect witnesses,
00:11:41something has to be done so that when criminal acts occur,
00:11:47there would be consequences or a very high likelihood of consequences.
00:11:51And there is a lot of research, including Peruvian research,
00:11:54that shows that if there are consequences when offenses are committed,
00:12:01it really affects the rate of criminal offending.
00:12:04So, we need to do something about that.
00:12:07Dr. Sipasad, I think that many people will agree with you this morning
00:12:12that the situation at the Port of Spain General Hospital
00:12:16really shows that another line has been crossed.
00:12:20And, of course, you mentioned a number of things that could be done,
00:12:24but is it, Dr. Sipasad, because this is just my personal view,
00:12:29and, of course, I'm a Trinidadian
00:12:33and have been watching our behavior and how we operate for so many years now,
00:12:41but do you think that people believe that if they do something of a criminal nature
00:12:50in Trinidad and Tobago, that there are repercussions to fit it?
00:12:55Well, at this point, it seems that the answer to that is no.
00:12:59People definitely don't think so, and the evidence is there before them.
00:13:02The clearance rates are very, very low, and they are continuing to decline.
00:13:07And that's a bad signal because over and over we have examples of persons
00:13:12perpetrating very, very serious criminal offenses
00:13:15and very few perpetrators actually being apprehended.
00:13:19So, really, that sends a very clear signal to the society at large that,
00:13:23listen, you could do almost anything and get away with it.
00:13:27And the perception is very different if you look at different countries.
00:13:31You know, across the globe, if you go to, let's say, some countries like the U.S.,
00:13:35and perhaps it's an unfair comparison, but if you go to countries like the U.S.,
00:13:40there is a perception that if you do something, there is an almost certain likelihood
00:13:45that you're going to be caught, and then following that, some very swift justice.
00:13:50And over and over you see that example happening,
00:13:52and when you look at the crime rates comparatively, you realize that in countries like that,
00:13:57the rates are lower.
00:13:59So we do need to do something very, very decisive in terms of improving those clearance rates.
00:14:06And notwithstanding that, I fully recognize, you know, resource constraints
00:14:11and all of the problems that we face, and I think that sometimes we underestimate
00:14:17the difficulties that the police, you know, the police may face.
00:14:22And I will give you a very, very simple example that I gave not too long ago.
00:14:26I was at the Montreux police station a few nights ago, and the officer in charge was relaying to me
00:14:32that they didn't have even as much as a printer in the station.
00:14:37If officers wanted to print something, they had to bring their own printers home,
00:14:42print whatever it is they wanted, and then carry back home their printers,
00:14:45and it's that bad when it comes to resources.
00:14:48You know, so it's easy, it's quick to point a finger to the police,
00:14:52but we have to understand that if we either don't have resources
00:14:56or we fail to effectively allocate resources to the police to do what they need to do,
00:15:01then they're at a point where they're working with almost nothing, and they are going to struggle.
00:15:06But how do they, police officers, do their job adequately and efficiently
00:15:13if you still have the argument that some police stations, they just don't have vehicles?
00:15:18I remember a few months ago that Kareny didn't have any vehicles, and then they got one vehicle.
00:15:24We're thinking of such a large area as Kareny, and now you're speaking about a printer.
00:15:31You have situations where there is no stationary, so bulletproof vests, even uniforms.
00:15:39There has been a claim that some police officers just do not have the opportunity to get any new uniforms.
00:15:47So how do they, again, the police officers, do their job effectively and keep up the morale while doing it?
00:15:55And that's a very good question, because the point is they can't do their job effectively
00:16:01if they aren't provided with the resources.
00:16:04I'm not saying it's a simple matter, but at least finding out what the gaps are in terms of the resources
00:16:10would be a fairly simple matter.
00:16:12Normally, organizations will do a needs assessment or some kind of assessment in terms of resources
00:16:20that are required on an annual basis or semi-annual basis, where you reach out to your different departments
00:16:27and you get those requisition lists filled.
00:16:30Of course, you have to figure out, once you do that, how are you going to prioritize
00:16:34and how are you going to provide resources so that the needs could be met?
00:16:39And I'm so glad you raised the issue about a bulletproof vest, and again, that was another thing that was raised
00:16:46at the Monmouth Police Station, that an officer was going out on duty on a particular night
00:16:52and asked for a simple thing like a bulletproof vest.
00:16:55And the officer who was in charge that night, how was that laugh?
00:16:59Because he was wondering, in what utopian world are you living in, that you could expect to get a bulletproof vest?
00:17:05Imagine that. That is something that could save your life while in the lines of duty.
00:17:10And they are struggling with simple things like that.
00:17:13So we really have to ensure that once resources are allocated, and we have to ensure before that
00:17:20that they are allocated by the Ministry of National Security to the CCPS.
00:17:26Once those resources are allocated, we have to ensure that they are effectively used,
00:17:33that there is transparency, that there is accountability.
00:17:37And in the environment of a lack of resources, you have to prioritize how you disperse those resources
00:17:45so that they are used as effectively as possible.
00:17:49Dr. Seepersad, allow me to put something else on the table here this morning.
00:17:54Over the past few weeks, we, and when I say we, we as a country,
00:17:59we were able to see videos from various hotspots in Trinidad and Tobago
00:18:07where young men are walking in the streets with high-powered weapons
00:18:14and they have given the explanation that we need to walk in the streets with these high-powered weapons
00:18:23because we need to protect our communities from other persons who are involved in gang-related activities.
00:18:36But it would seem that the men in the hotspots, they are so proud of the weapons that they do have
00:18:45and they're so proud of the work that they're doing and so on.
00:18:49A number of people would have been horrified by some of these videos that have been placed all across social media.
00:18:58Doctor, have you been able to see some of these videos and what's your perspective on them?
00:19:04Right, so I am aware of these videos and, you know, there are different sides to that particular story.
00:19:12One is that these gentlemen who have these weapons genuinely feel that there is a need
00:19:18and the reality is there is a need.
00:19:21And I'm not justifying the need whatsoever, but I'm saying that it is a need created out of the rivalries
00:19:30that exist among the gangs and the front criminal elements in those communities.
00:19:36Meaning, therefore, it's a need that they have created and it's a need that they have sustained.
00:19:42And that's the first simple thing that they need to realize.
00:19:46Quite often, they have lost track of the issues that started all of this in the first place.
00:19:52They have been born into a community and a culture where violence is the norm,
00:19:57where people feel the need and there is a need to protect themselves and they have armed themselves to do so.
00:20:04And it therefore perpetuates the violence, it makes the violence easier to happen as a result of the easy access to firearms.
00:20:13Now, one of the things that these gentlemen need to realize is that these disputes would have predated them.
00:20:22They don't even know of the origin of these disputes.
00:20:25And until somebody makes a move to stop this animosity, to stop the hatred, to stop the disputes,
00:20:32it will continue and it will continue at the expense of their lives
00:20:37and the lives of their families and their children and the people in those communities.
00:20:42So at some point, they have to realize that if they don't want to live in a war zone,
00:20:47part of the responsibility of creating peace is theirs.
00:20:52And when external agencies like the Ministry of National Security come in
00:20:56and intervene via programs like Building Blocks and Project Grace,
00:21:01they need to embrace these programs because these represent avenues for building peace and potentially a lasting peace.
00:21:08Now the other side of it is, I will say quite frankly,
00:21:12the evidence that they put forward in terms of these videos could actually be used
00:21:17and should actually be used in a court of law to secure prosecutions
00:21:21because you're talking possession of firearms and you're proud of it, you're displaying it to the public,
00:21:26your face is on a video, that is something, imagine what more could you want?
00:21:31What more could you want as evidence?
00:21:33And if we as a country can have a video of somebody, you know, walking, displaying their firearms,
00:21:40you have their face, and yet nothing is being done about it, then that sends a signal as well
00:21:46that, you know, you could walk loud and proud on the streets with a high-powered weapon,
00:21:52despite the fact that it's illegal, and nothing will be done.
00:21:55So if we do not do something about it, when we have that kind of evidence,
00:21:59that alone sends a signal to the criminal element that, hey, you know, it's okay to go ahead and do that.
00:22:05I could walk the streets, buy a firearm, and use it when I want.
00:22:09But doesn't this beg this question that I think that the videos have really, while we were thinking of it
00:22:19and maybe speculating as to what is happening in certain areas in Trinidad and Tobago,
00:22:26but I think that the videos really blew the lid off of what is really happening.
00:22:33But it begs the question, Dr. Seepersan, if this is happening, and we know this is happening,
00:22:41then why haven't the authorities done anything about this situation?
00:22:47And if the argument is, well, we don't know, well, then what are our investigative or investigating agencies,
00:22:57what are they doing? How do they not know that this is happening?
00:23:02Well, that is a question that dumbfounds me, quite honestly,
00:23:05because I think everybody knows, including the police service.
00:23:09So if nothing is done, then it really begs the question of what is going wrong,
00:23:16and something is fundamentally wrong if nothing is done.
00:23:20So I think that is a question that the police service would be much better positioned to answer
00:23:26than I would be able to, because the entire country is actually aware of it.
00:23:30So I'm sure that the police service is aware of it.
00:23:33Yeah. And you know, because, of course, over the years, the police service,
00:23:40and I have no argument with what they have been asking people to do.
00:23:46If you see something, say something. I have no argument with that, Dr. Seepersan.
00:23:52But, you know, sometimes you think as a citizen, if you go around the community
00:23:58and you ask who is involved in this sort of behavior, criminal behavior, people can tell you.
00:24:05So if you have a district police station, then the question is,
00:24:11how do they not know when everyone else seems to know what is happening?
00:24:17Well, I think they actually know.
00:24:19But there is a big difference between knowing and the community and people in the community knowing,
00:24:25as opposed to getting evidence which will stand up in a court of law.
00:24:30Those are two completely different things.
00:24:32And when it comes to evidence that will stand up in a court of law,
00:24:37let's say, for instance, testimony from persons in the community,
00:24:40this is where you run into very serious problems,
00:24:43because people's lives will certainly be at risk if they go and provide that evidence.
00:24:50So the onus really is on the security agencies to create the means, the mechanisms,
00:24:57and the level of confidence that people can come forward and provide the evidence
00:25:02or, failing that, create other means to gather that evidence,
00:25:07whether it's through intelligence, surveillance, whatever it is.
00:25:12There are ways to gather it.
00:25:14And therefore, what they need to do is a very serious look at what kinds of evidence we need,
00:25:20what are the gaps in the system that will allow us to gather that evidence,
00:25:23and what can we do to fill those gaps.
00:25:26So we do have to have a needs assessment where that is consumed.
00:25:30And of course, the broader part of that has to do with the detection rates overall.
00:25:35What are the gaps in that really timing our ability as a police service to detect crimes to the level that we should be?
00:25:45Right?
00:25:47So, you know, there are some easy starting points.
00:25:50You mentioned the issue of reporting anonymously to the police.
00:25:55There are systems in place for that, but we need to build public confidence in the ability to do that.
00:26:02But when people do provide those kinds of reports, the police do need to have the powers to do something about it.
00:26:09Of course, as I say, the short point is, though, that even though they might be able to arrest somebody,
00:26:16they probably can't hold them, they can't detain them unless they can get more solid evidence.
00:26:21So we still run into problems there as well.
00:26:24Yeah. Just to remind our viewers that Dr. Sipisad is en route to another destination.
00:26:30He's competing with the intercom at the airport.
00:26:33But again, we do appreciate Dr. Sipisad still taking the time out this morning and speaking to us.
00:26:40Dr. Sipisad, I just want to, if I could allow me to turn you in the direction of the schools now,
00:26:48because over the past few days, a few days ago, we saw where a young man of 15 years old,
00:26:56he was stabbed during what has been called play fighting.
00:27:00Of course, this follows a number of incidents at the at the school level where every now and then we can see on social media.
00:27:12Fights between students, whether it is within the school facility or outside of the school facility.
00:27:22Dr. Sipisad, let's let's talk a little bit about the how that entire situation is being managed.
00:27:29You think it is being managed in an adequate way at all?
00:27:33No. First, let me preface that by saying that I think the scale of the problem is far more than we realize.
00:27:41Very recently, a team of colleagues and myself collected data from several schools across the Caribbean,
00:27:48including in Trinidad and Tobago, and we were really surprised to see the rates of engagement in criminal offending of the youths in our country.
00:27:58At this particular case, we were looking at Form 4 and 5 students, and we were asking for a range of minor as well as serious crimes.
00:28:08And we asked students to indicate within the last year whether they've engaged in those things.
00:28:14And to many of the offenses, we were seeing things like 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of the students saying that they engage in serious criminal offenses.
00:28:23Now, that is a worrying thing because that is not the kinds of levels that you would expect from secondary school children.
00:28:32And I dare say, though, that it's not something unique to Trinidad and Tobago.
00:28:36It's something that we are seeing happening in the Caribbean region as a whole.
00:28:42I will also add to that that if we look at CAPA crime statistics, we will see that over the last two to three years that the Gen Z youths,
00:28:52that very young population of persons, has been responsible for the most dramatic increase in serious crimes in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:29:01So you're spot on if you see that something is happening in the schools, something is going seriously wrong,
00:29:08and the net has widened to include not just those youths who come from dispossessed and impoverished communities,
00:29:16but it has widened to include males and females, and the females aren't too far behind the males.
00:29:23That is another thing that was quite surprising.
00:29:25Traditionally, females would have been far less engaged in criminal offending than males,
00:29:30and we've seen them almost starting to approach the males neck and neck for a lot of different things.
00:29:36And in some Caribbean countries as well, we are seeing females offending more than males, which is something of an anomaly.
00:29:45Now, the problem though, and you ask the question whether enough is being done, the unequivocal answer to that is no.
00:29:52Because if enough was being done, these things wouldn't be happening in the school in the first place.
00:29:58Now, I'm not saying the school is solely responsible, right?
00:30:02It comes from the family, it comes from the community, it comes from the various environments within which youths find themselves.
00:30:09It's not just the school.
00:30:11But the problem is, we have not so far seen the school as an environment within which we can do interventions,
00:30:20and the pity of it is that the school is actually one of the best environments,
00:30:25because it is an environment where you can reach the bulk of youths, where you know who the problem youths are,
00:30:34so you can focus on problem youths and give them interventions designed to help them desist from engagement in criminal offending or delinquency and so forth.
00:30:46So we have to recognize the potential and the level of reach of the school system,
00:30:54and I dare say the primary as well as secondary school system,
00:30:58and put measures in place so that we help to build the value system, the morals, the level of self-control, etc. of the youth in the school system,
00:31:09because it is these very same youths who are going to grow up and graduate into more serious criminality.
00:31:15So we cannot leave the school system as a resource untapped.
00:31:20We need to see it as an environment within which we need to do some very sustained interventions.
00:31:27Dr. Randy C. Pessard, it's always a pleasure speaking with you, and again, thank you very much, sir, for taking the time out.
00:31:33We know that you are in transit to another destination.
00:31:37We wish you a safe trip, and we'll speak again very, very soon.
00:31:40Bye for now, doctor.
00:31:42Thank you. Absolutely a pleasure as always. Bye-bye.
00:31:45We are going to have a very short break, everybody. We're coming back.
00:31:48Thank you very much.
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00:33:03Do you remember when we fell in love?
00:33:15I remember all the pain.
00:33:19Do you remember how it all began?
00:33:24How could I ever forget it's the first time?
00:33:28Do you remember?
00:33:30I can feel it, it's calling me.
00:33:32Yeah, it's calling me.
00:33:34Yeah, it's calling me.
00:33:36Yeah, I can feel it.
00:33:42Do you remember?
00:33:44Hold on.
00:33:45When we fell in love.
00:33:46Do you remember?
00:33:47It's the first time.
00:33:48How could I ever forget it?
00:33:51Do you remember?
00:33:52Hold on.
00:33:53When we fell in love.
00:33:55Do you remember?
00:33:56It's the first time.
00:33:57How could I ever forget it?
00:34:00Do you remember?
00:34:01It's the first time.
00:34:02When we fell in love.
00:34:04It's not a thrill when your speed can't kill.
00:34:35Yeah.
00:34:37Yeah.
00:34:38Yeah.
00:34:52All right.
00:34:54So, welcome back, everyone.
00:34:55So, it's now time for our weekly Express Business segment with Multimedia Business Editor, Joelle Julian.
00:35:00Man, that's a big position, you hear that?
00:35:02You hear that?
00:35:03It's not no small fry we're dealing with here this morning.
00:35:06Good morning, Joel.
00:35:07Look at Joel's face over here.
00:35:10You know, there was this term with the sanitation engineer.
00:35:14So the term itself, song, is important.
00:35:16But at the end of the day, it's neither here nor there.
00:35:18All right.
00:35:19OK.
00:35:20I hear you.
00:35:21What do you have in store for us today, Joel?
00:35:23So one of the discussions that we have this morning
00:35:26looks at our energy sector.
00:35:28So the energy chamber, they normally
00:35:31have two events, two conferences.
00:35:33So the major conference they have
00:35:35is the overall energy conference that normally happens
00:35:37at the beginning of the year.
00:35:39And then in the middle of the year,
00:35:40they have a second conference that
00:35:41deals more with sustainability.
00:35:43Because the conversation when we look at energy,
00:35:46when we look at fossil fuels and stuff like that,
00:35:49there's also the conversation of turning to more renewables.
00:35:52So that's why they sort of separate the conferences.
00:35:55So the conference that they have this week
00:35:57that was held over Monday and Tuesday
00:36:00was looking at sustainability.
00:36:02So we decided to also focus on energy
00:36:04for this week's business magazine.
00:36:06So our cover story looks at Touchstone Exploration
00:36:10Incorporated.
00:36:11Now, Touchstone, what they do is they do onshore exploration.
00:36:15And one of the things that they're looking to do
00:36:17is look at deep horizon, which is a technical term.
00:36:21But what it basically says is that the deep horizon
00:36:23is the subsurface geological formations where you have oil.
00:36:29So what they're trying to do is they
00:36:30want to do deep horizon drilling.
00:36:32And this is basically deep drilling into the Earth's
00:36:35surface to see if they could find oil.
00:36:38Now, in Trinidad and Tobago, oil and gas
00:36:40has been our bread and butter for a significant period
00:36:42of time.
00:36:43But unfortunately, we are seeing dwindling numbers
00:36:46in terms of exploration numbers, production.
00:36:51So the reason we decided to look at this
00:36:54is that if this is possible, if Touchstone is able to do this,
00:36:58could this be a game changer for us?
00:37:00Could we be once again back in that in terms of those numbers,
00:37:05in terms of exploration?
00:37:07So our cover story looks at Touchstone Exploration
00:37:11and is a conversation with their CEO, Mr. Paul B.
00:37:15And he just speaks about some of the plans that they have.
00:37:17You know, they would have the bids for drilling.
00:37:25And they are saying that what they hope
00:37:27would be the possibilities of being
00:37:28able to discover this oil.
00:37:30So is there a possibility that we could
00:37:33be literally sitting on oil?
00:37:35Well, we're hoping.
00:37:36You know, that is the hope.
00:37:37Because this is not sea drilling, right?
00:37:38No, this is onshore drilling.
00:37:40So the Cretaceous period, it would
00:37:43have been like millions of years ago, dinosaurs,
00:37:45because that's where the hydrocarbons come from,
00:37:48the dinosaurs, et cetera.
00:37:50So they are going to try and deep drill, deep horizon.
00:37:54And Exxon would have tried this some years back.
00:37:57In Trinidad?
00:37:58In Trinidad.
00:37:59Exxon would have tried this.
00:38:00But now they found deposits of oil.
00:38:04But they didn't find like the real deposits,
00:38:07you know, like a real bunker of oil sort of thing,
00:38:10a large amount of oil.
00:38:11So what Touchstone is saying is that we
00:38:14would have seen drilling taking place in Guyana, Suriname
00:38:17recently.
00:38:18And they're saying that through that period, some of the work
00:38:21that would have done in Guyana and Suriname,
00:38:24they're hoping that some of the learnings
00:38:25that they would have gotten there
00:38:27would help them in terms of trying to find oil.
00:38:31So there's onshore drilling.
00:38:33Onshore drilling.
00:38:33In Guyana, too.
00:38:35Yeah, so they're hoping to try and figure out,
00:38:39see if there is oil there.
00:38:42Because they would have find like some little amongst,
00:38:45but they just want to find like this real area of whether or not
00:38:50it would have been settled, and if you could find oil.
00:38:53So that is one of the things that we looked
00:38:54at in this week's magazine.
00:38:56We decided to look at it as I said,
00:38:58so this kind of coincide with the energy
00:38:59chamber and some of the conversation that
00:39:02was taking place.
00:39:03But just to say that if a company has decided
00:39:08to make such a large investment, to me,
00:39:13that shows that there is a great potential
00:39:18of finding such deposits.
00:39:21That is what it says to me.
00:39:22Otherwise, no company is going to come and trying to invest
00:39:26millions of dollars for this.
00:39:28So let's see, as you say, it could be a game changer, right?
00:39:31So literally millions.
00:39:32Because I think what Mr. Bay says
00:39:34is that the wells that they're trying to utilize
00:39:37is like 10 million US.
00:39:39So as you rightly say, Marlon, you
00:39:43have to believe there's real potential for you
00:39:45to make this sort of investment.
00:39:48And it will be beneficial for us in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:39:50Even though the conversation of oil and gas
00:39:53is one of those conversations where
00:39:55a person are trying to stay away from the hydrocarbons.
00:39:58At the end of the day, we have heard the finance ministers
00:40:02speak about the issues in terms of revenue generation or lack
00:40:07of being able to collect revenue.
00:40:10So this is one of those situations
00:40:11that if it is it works out to us,
00:40:14it will be beneficial for us as a country.
00:40:17So fingers crossed.
00:40:19And we hope that they are able to find the oil
00:40:21that they're searching for.
00:40:22And we hope that they're able to explore and increase
00:40:25our production.
00:40:26Because we also know that energy minister, Syotung,
00:40:28he always talks about some of the initiatives
00:40:31that are taking place.
00:40:32We have the drug and gas conversation going on.
00:40:35We have the cocaine or mannequin conversations
00:40:38that's going on.
00:40:39So there are other conversations.
00:40:40And I guess this will just add to the energy landscape
00:40:43of Trinidad and Tobago and some of the work that is being done.
00:40:46And hopefully we'll be able to benefit from it.
00:40:48I don't know about you, Joel, but as I listen to you speak
00:40:50and as we speak this morning, I'm
00:40:53just thinking it would seem that oil and gas and the economy
00:40:58and issues such as these, we have the conversations
00:41:03have increased.
00:41:04And it would seem that for a few years, last year and even
00:41:08this year, the beginning of this year,
00:41:10we just kept on speaking about the economy and oil and gas
00:41:13and so on.
00:41:14So it has really been a front burner issue.
00:41:17You get that impression?
00:41:18Yeah, it is.
00:41:19Because I think we as a country, we
00:41:22are realizing that we need money.
00:41:24We need money for some of the things
00:41:26that we need to get done in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:41:29If you just break it down to an individual,
00:41:31you need income in order to spend.
00:41:34So we know that oil and gas has been our bread and butter.
00:41:37I think one of the things that is also
00:41:39pushing that conversation is because we
00:41:41see what's happening in our neighboring countries.
00:41:44We see what's going on in Guyana.
00:41:46We see Exxon doing their stuff in Guyana.
00:41:48We see Suriname talking about their oil and gas also.
00:41:51And so I think that is what has also
00:41:54helped us in that conversation.
00:41:56Because we know Trinidad and Tobago, we're not new to this.
00:42:00We have been in this for some time.
00:42:02So we're seeing others entering the conversation.
00:42:04And we feel that we are ready in the conversation.
00:42:06Why not?
00:42:07Why not increase our participation
00:42:09in the conversation?
00:42:10Joel, what else you have for us?
00:42:12So I just want to stick on the theme of oil and gas first.
00:42:15So one of the things that we have going on
00:42:18is there's a tariff called the Carbon Border Adjustment
00:42:22Mechanism that is being implemented
00:42:24by the European Union.
00:42:26Now, Energy Minister Stuart Young,
00:42:27he would have delivered the feature address in the Energy
00:42:30Chambers Conference on Monday.
00:42:32And he raised some concerns about CBAM.
00:42:35Now, what CBAM is, as I said in the conversation,
00:42:38is that they're trying to reduce carbon intensity,
00:42:42so reduce the amount of carbon that is expelled.
00:42:46And the CBAM was introduced by the European Union
00:42:49to try and help in terms of mitigating carbon
00:42:53and in terms of kind of leveling the playing field
00:42:56that they see, leveling the playing field in terms
00:42:58of the European Union.
00:43:00Now, so one of the conversations that we had
00:43:02is that we have ProMan and Methanex.
00:43:04These are two companies that operate within Trinidad
00:43:06and Tobago.
00:43:08So we heard Energy Minister Stuart Young
00:43:10talk about CBAM and some of the concerns he has with CBAM
00:43:14because Energy Minister Stuart Young,
00:43:16he's saying that overall the conversation
00:43:19is to go to renewables.
00:43:22But some of the larger players in the world space,
00:43:26global, larger global players,
00:43:28what they tend to do is have these conversations
00:43:31and tend to squeeze the smaller players
00:43:33like Trinidad and Tobago, I guess Guyana
00:43:35because Guyana has no entry into the space
00:43:37and you're hearing people say it is bad.
00:43:39But in no entry into the space,
00:43:41they're now trying to find ways to improve
00:43:43the lives of their citizens.
00:43:46So we just decided to reach out to Methanex and ProMan
00:43:49to find out what is the conversation like for them
00:43:52because they deal with ammonia,
00:43:54they deal with methanol production.
00:43:56And these are some of the things
00:43:57that will be impacted by CBAM.
00:44:00And what Jerome Dukie,
00:44:02who is the managing director of ProMan says,
00:44:04is that ProMan is going to try to do like
00:44:09assessment to really determine how CBAM will impact them
00:44:13and what they can do to address some of the issues
00:44:15that will be impacting them as a result of CBAM.
00:44:19Methanex is saying that they are also looking
00:44:21at the landscape and is just trying to find a way
00:44:23that we're seeing sort of like the goalposts shifting
00:44:27in a sort of way.
00:44:28Yeah.
00:44:29So yeah, just to see how they are able
00:44:31to tackle these issues.
00:44:33Yeah.
00:44:34There was an interesting interview a few months ago
00:44:39with the president of Guyana and the BBC.
00:44:44And at that time they were speaking about,
00:44:46well, all of this activity happening in Guyana
00:44:50and they were speaking about the carbon emissions and so on.
00:44:54The president of Guyana was not too pleased
00:44:57because I think that there is the perception
00:45:01that the bigger countries,
00:45:04they have been allowed for so long to conduct their business
00:45:09and not being monitored or kept in check in any way.
00:45:17But then you have, when it comes to the,
00:45:21when compared to the larger countries
00:45:23and you may view Guyana as a small country
00:45:26and Trinidad and Tobago and other countries of the region.
00:45:30So the finger is being pointed at us when it is,
00:45:34the argument is that it is the larger countries
00:45:38that are guilty of such actions.
00:45:41And just to draw on that,
00:45:42you know, an example that we hear Minister Young
00:45:44make fairly regularly is that he's saying that,
00:45:47you know, they always look at the smaller players,
00:45:51the Trinidad, Tobago, the CARICOM
00:45:53in terms of what we are doing.
00:45:56And he's saying that when there was Russia's invasion
00:46:00of Ukraine and there were issues in terms of gas production
00:46:04and the European countries were being impacted,
00:46:07he said that they restarted coal plants.
00:46:09I know coal is very devastating
00:46:12in terms of the environment.
00:46:13So, you know, and also one of the things that he also said
00:46:16is that on Monday when he's having the opening remarks
00:46:20is that he's saying,
00:46:21if it is we shut off everything in CARICOM,
00:46:23we shut off the lights, we shut off the cameras,
00:46:26we shut off the air condition, no cars operated,
00:46:30we're doing nothing.
00:46:31It's only 2%, 2% of the overall carbon emissions.
00:46:35You know, so if it's shut off everything, you know,
00:46:37we are being looked at as though we are causing the problems
00:46:42when in reality we are the ones
00:46:43that are mainly impacted by the problems
00:46:45because we've seen climate change issues
00:46:47that affect the smaller nations.
00:46:49So it's one of those conversations where,
00:46:51and in terms of Guyana in particular,
00:46:54you know, Marlon, we grew up at a time
00:46:56where Guyana was seen as like
00:46:59one of the most impoverished countries,
00:47:01not only in the region, but in the world.
00:47:03And now we're seeing the possibility of Guyana
00:47:06getting revenue and getting things to help them increase,
00:47:09help them improve.
00:47:10Big money, big money.
00:47:11Because when I went to Guyana a couple of years ago,
00:47:14unfortunately you'll see like donkey carts
00:47:17and things in the capital city.
00:47:18We do see donkey carts in Trinidad,
00:47:20which is literally right there.
00:47:25And so, you know, so we're seeing a situation
00:47:27where Guyana has the possibility to improve their position,
00:47:31improve their country, improve the lives of their citizens.
00:47:34And now you're telling them that is bad,
00:47:37but your other countries were built by these resources,
00:47:41you know, so it's one of those conversations
00:47:43that we see taking place.
00:47:45It could be an uncomfortable conversation,
00:47:47but it's a conversation that has to take place, right?
00:47:51We said that interview with President Ali and the BBC,
00:47:55you know, he made some points that to other people
00:47:58may seem as though, well, you know,
00:48:01you're not forward thinking,
00:48:02you're not thinking about where we are going
00:48:04in terms of the world.
00:48:06But the reality is that countries
00:48:08were built by these resources.
00:48:10So why look at it as something so negative now
00:48:13where Guyana needs that sort of development?
00:48:16But I guess this is one of those conversations
00:48:18that, you know, could go on for a while.
00:48:21Yeah, yeah.
00:48:22All right, Joel, let's move on.
00:48:23We just have a few minutes again.
00:48:25All right, so another thing that we see
00:48:29sometimes getting a bad name is plastics.
00:48:32Right.
00:48:33All right, so, you know, you buy a water bottle,
00:48:37sometimes people discard these things indiscriminately,
00:48:39you know?
00:48:41In the drains.
00:48:42In the drain.
00:48:42So, you know, with the rains recently.
00:48:46Yes.
00:48:48I was walking on the promenade, Aida, I think last week.
00:48:51And if you see the plastics that come out of these drains
00:48:55that cause these flooding.
00:48:57So what Juan André of Flying Tree Environmental Management
00:49:01is saying is that plastics is not really the problem.
00:49:05You know, plastics, you know, are seen as the villain.
00:49:09Yes.
00:49:10But it's not really the plastics per se,
00:49:12but how we treat the plastics.
00:49:14You know, what we do after,
00:49:15after you drink your water from your water bottle,
00:49:18what do you do?
00:49:19So he is saying that what they are trying to do
00:49:21is changing narrative.
00:49:23Because what Flying Tree does is that they take the plastics,
00:49:26these discarded plastics,
00:49:28and they basically destroy it and build things from it.
00:49:33So one of the things that,
00:49:34one of the images that we have in today's magazine,
00:49:37you see like a bench and some of these pots.
00:49:40Yeah, and these things were made from discarded plastics.
00:49:43So, you know, he's saying that
00:49:44Flying Tree Environmental Management is saying that
00:49:47they were able to retrieve 500 tons of discarded plastic
00:49:52and repurpose it.
00:49:53So apart from like park benches and apart from other things,
00:49:56I think there was a facility that they were able to build
00:50:00from these discarded plastics.
00:50:02So what Mr. André and his team is trying to do
00:50:05is change the narrative.
00:50:06And my colleague, Melissa Maynard, speaks to him
00:50:09and just speaks to some of the challenges that they face
00:50:11and some of the education that he believes is required
00:50:14for persons to better understand that plastics,
00:50:18I guess it's like guns.
00:50:20The gun itself is not a problem,
00:50:22it's about how you utilize it.
00:50:24So, you know, that is the conversation there.
00:50:28And we're trying to see, I guess,
00:50:29so let's kind of piggyback on the hydrocarbons.
00:50:32Hydrocarbons, you know, you see in the conversation,
00:50:35how do you really benefit?
00:50:36How do we ensure that we are able to benefit
00:50:39and really utilize these things
00:50:42that we have been utilizing for some time
00:50:44and ensuring that we get the best out of it?
00:50:46Yeah, I'm looking at some of the statements
00:50:49that Mr. Andrade.
00:50:52Well, I pronounce it André, but I start to be corrected.
00:50:56I don't like to butcher people.
00:50:57That he's making hair
00:50:58and he speaks about the amount of challenges and so on.
00:51:01But you made a point speaking about education.
00:51:06And I think that maybe there has to be
00:51:10this new education drive,
00:51:13because I'm sure that people may want to engage
00:51:17in such business if they feel that it is viable for them.
00:51:22And I think that more and more,
00:51:23we need to show people the opportunities
00:51:27that can come out of this.
00:51:28Because as you know, there are people all across the world
00:51:32that are collecting the plastic and shredding it
00:51:36and turning it into all sorts of materials.
00:51:38So I think that as long as we, as I say,
00:51:43embark on this education drive,
00:51:45then maybe more and more people may come into the industry
00:51:49and may want to do it.
00:51:50But again, Joel, you know how we are,
00:51:52because we do have a lot of bad habits.
00:51:54So if you're saying to a Trinidadian now,
00:51:56well, here's what I want you to separate your bags
00:51:59and separate your bottles and separate.
00:52:01We're not accustomed to that.
00:52:03So there has to be an entire attitude change by us
00:52:08to embrace something such as this.
00:52:11The funny thing, Marlon, is like right outside
00:52:13our building there, there's this garbage bin.
00:52:17And some years back, there were different slots
00:52:19for different things.
00:52:20So there's a slot for plastic, a slot for paper, a slot.
00:52:24Go and check it out.
00:52:25Go and check it out.
00:52:26Roti bag.
00:52:28But you understand, Joel.
00:52:30Joel, we have about one minute again.
00:52:32All right, so Express Business, as we always say,
00:52:34we are just part of a larger news team.
00:52:38Our flagship product is the magazine.
00:52:40We invite people to read the magazine.
00:52:42Apart from the stories that we would have mentioned so far,
00:52:44there are other stories that are inside there.
00:52:46So we look at tourism.
00:52:47We speak to my colleague, Vashana Pagu.
00:52:49She speaks to Farley Augustine, the chief secretary.
00:52:53I'm just trying to have that whole-
00:52:54That's not Farley there.
00:52:56Have that whole conversation in terms of tourism
00:53:01and how tourism is impacted.
00:53:05One of the things he mentions is sport tourism.
00:53:07And as you know, Marlon, today is a big game for the US.
00:53:10We have West Indies versus New Zealand.
00:53:12And that is a part of sport tourism
00:53:14because I'm sure persons would have entered the country
00:53:16to see their favorite teams play.
00:53:19So we are focusing on those.
00:53:21We try to always keep our fingers on the pulse
00:53:23of what's taking place in business
00:53:25and as a conversation we have.
00:53:26And we always appreciate the opportunity
00:53:28to come and speak to you.
00:53:29Joel, it's always good to speak with you.
00:53:30All right, we are going to a very short break.
00:53:32We're coming back, everybody.
00:53:33Stay right there.
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00:56:16There are no plans to increase value-added tax or VAT.
00:56:22This from the finance minister
00:56:24as he accuses the opposition UNC of political dishonesty.
00:56:29Total untruth.
00:56:31The document that was available to the media
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00:57:22and trade union leaders are urging workers
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00:57:29a performance appraisal on the government.
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01:01:19I grew up in a country
01:01:21small little town called Boogmanatras in Santa Cruz.
01:01:26Very special place to grow up in.
01:01:28And now as an adult
01:01:31I think of those children in Trinidad and Tobago
01:01:34who do not have a safe place.
01:01:36Who are maybe not even lying in their own beds, or a bed.
01:01:41And there's no roof to shade them from the sun
01:01:45nor to protect them from the rain.
01:01:48When I started looking at Habitat for Humanity Trinidad and Tobago
01:01:53they answered a call I have deep inside of me.
01:01:56What they were saying to me
01:01:59was that we can make a difference.
01:02:01I'd like to ask you to consider coming on board.
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01:02:19Bring the love back
01:02:21I wouldn't like that
01:02:23Action over chat
01:02:26Going up like fire with fire
01:02:28Only love can bring the love back
01:02:35That's Freetown Collective there.
01:02:37So over the past few weeks
01:02:39Freetown Collective has traveled all over Trinidad and Tobago
01:02:42as part of its third Tight Spaces acoustic tour
01:02:45where they get up close with fans.
01:02:47Tomorrow the band heads to the courtyard at Naparima Bowl in San Fernando
01:02:50then back to Port of Spain next Wednesday, Labor Day
01:02:53where the tour culminates at Sound Forge.
01:02:55Joining us now, we do have Freetown members
01:02:58Mohamed Mouakil and Lou Lyons
01:03:01founders and vocalists of Freetown.
01:03:04Every time I have to mention the gentlemen's names
01:03:07I always have a problem. I don't know why.
01:03:10Mouakil, I don't know why.
01:03:12You have to check that.
01:03:14Gentlemen, thank you very much for coming this morning.
01:03:19I was listening to the music there
01:03:22and I have been really looking
01:03:25in preparation for this interview
01:03:27looking at the posts that you all have been putting up
01:03:31on social media and so on
01:03:33and I was thinking
01:03:35the work never really stops for Freetown Collective, right?
01:03:40And I mean
01:03:43I'm sure you would agree with this
01:03:45Freetown Collective wants to say something
01:03:48but not anything.
01:03:50Yeah? That make sense, Mohamed?
01:03:52That's accurate.
01:03:53That's very accurate.
01:03:55You see, I know all of you. Go ahead.
01:03:58You know, when we're writing songs and putting things together
01:04:02we have an album coming even
01:04:04we're very careful about what we say
01:04:06because we know the instructive power that we have
01:04:08when you say something it affects lives, it affects many things
01:04:11so, yes, we always have something to say
01:04:15but we take our time in saying so
01:04:17you know, not just saying anything at all.
01:04:19Yeah. Tell us about this tour that you all have been on.
01:04:24In 2017 when we were about to release our first studio album
01:04:29it was a departure from how we started.
01:04:32We started as a small community
01:04:35I would say project
01:04:37where he was learning to sing in real time
01:04:39and I was learning to play guitar in real time
01:04:41and there weren't many professional spaces
01:04:44who would see us as professional artists to hire us
01:04:47and we decided that we are going to build our fan base from the ground up
01:04:51so what we're doing now mirrors how we started
01:04:55and every time we have a big project coming
01:04:58or a tour overseas coming
01:05:01we think that it is important for our residents to not feel left behind
01:05:06and for us to remember that we have work here to do
01:05:09and that work is with our family.
01:05:11But Mohamed, what Lou is telling us about there
01:05:16it really takes guts to do
01:05:19because if you remember
01:05:21I've been in the business for a while now
01:05:24and I remember at a time
01:05:26where you had artists complaining about radio play
01:05:31and they're not seeing the music and hearing it on the television
01:05:36but with the advent of social media
01:05:39things have changed
01:05:41but still it takes a level of stick-to-itiveness
01:05:47and guts to continue along the path that you all have taken
01:05:54and to create this new lane, an own lane for you
01:06:00I mean, one group that I've seen done it
01:06:04and I'm sure that you all are very close with that group
01:06:06it's Three Canal
01:06:07and they did it
01:06:08and it has worked quite successfully, right?
01:06:11Kess and they have also done it
01:06:13and they recently just had their major concert in Central Park
01:06:17which is a testament to where Soka is going
01:06:22and what is possible with Caribbean music
01:06:24and Trinidadian music
01:06:25Trinidadian music specifically
01:06:27but yes, it takes that
01:06:29one of the pieces of advice that we always give to younger artists
01:06:32is when you start, start throwing your own shows almost immediately
01:06:36if you only have two people coming, throw a show
01:06:39and do that because you don't want to ever end up in a position
01:06:42where you're waiting for someone to hire you
01:06:44or that you've not built your own fan base
01:06:47because one of the things that we see in Soka
01:06:49and a lot of different types of music
01:06:50is that people are fans of the music
01:06:52but not necessarily the artist
01:06:54and so the artist will have to always wait for a promoter
01:06:56or someone to throw a fete or to throw a party to hire them
01:06:59as opposed to being able to throw their own thing
01:07:01and it's so, so important for artists
01:07:03to really, really build their fan base
01:07:06of people who are loyal to them
01:07:08and love their music
01:07:09regardless of if it is quote-unquote popular at the time or not
01:07:13Yeah
01:07:14Let's talk about this experience in Tobago
01:07:16because gentlemen, again, judging from
01:07:19I saw that a video that you would have posted recently
01:07:22over the past few days
01:07:23and I don't know Mohamed
01:07:25but I got the impression that the response that you got
01:07:29you were a bit surprised by it
01:07:31Yeah
01:07:32You think?
01:07:33Yeah
01:07:34So I'm originally from Tobago
01:07:36and while we would have done a lot of performances in Tobago
01:07:42we never did our own show in Tobago
01:07:45Right
01:07:46I don't know what you know about Tobagonians
01:07:48but we are very peculiar
01:07:50We are very particular with who we support
01:07:54and why we support
01:07:55so we may not have felt like we did enough groundwork
01:07:58to take the risk that we took
01:08:00and I mean, our management was a bit panicking
01:08:04based on the island e-ticket responses
01:08:07but we knew that once we touched the ground of Tobago
01:08:10that Tobago have vibes people too
01:08:13they would have felt the sincere intention that we were coming with
01:08:17and they would have come out
01:08:18and they did
01:08:19Yeah
01:08:20So gentlemen, you all have some new releases, right?
01:08:23Some new songs?
01:08:24We have a whole album that's coming
01:08:26So the tour is actually called the Beyond the Machine Tour
01:08:29which is the name of the album
01:08:30The road to Glastonbury as well
01:08:32because we are also headed to Glastonbury Festival
01:08:34So we have a whole body of work that's about to be released
01:08:37within the next two to three months here
01:08:40So yes, we have a lot of new music coming
01:08:43And we have a recent single that we released for the rainy season
01:08:47called Rainy Morning
01:08:48I don't know if you had a chance to check that out
01:08:50Yeah, we'll put it up
01:08:52We'll put it up
01:08:53That may be our road march, you know
01:08:55Yeah, for the next few days
01:08:56Rainy morning, right?
01:08:57Yeah
01:08:58Yeah?
01:08:59We have some cricket tonight too
01:09:01I don't know what is going to happen
01:09:02Yeah
01:09:03But gentlemen, I think that
01:09:07do you experience this perception from people
01:09:12where they may not know how to categorize your music?
01:09:18How do you categorize it?
01:09:20I mean, the term New Calypso was coined by Jimmy October
01:09:25And when we heard New Calypso, we identified with that
01:09:28We are the Calypsonians of this era, you know
01:09:31Calypso has always been influenced by the major musical influences of the time
01:09:36Back in the day, that would be Big Band and that kind of stuff
01:09:39And now, it's many other things
01:09:42But we are the storytellers of our time
01:09:44Calypso is the way our stories are told
01:09:47We take guitar and vocals and we tell our stories
01:09:49We up-produce that and it sounds different at different times
01:09:51But that's who we are
01:09:52We are the Calypsonians of our time
01:09:54So the music is called New Calypso
01:09:56Of course, again, this is a new genre that is being recognized
01:09:59It's starting to be recognized widely
01:10:01South by Southwest recognized the New Calypso stage as well
01:10:05Yeah
01:10:06But it will take time
01:10:07It takes time to embed these types of ideas, you know
01:10:10Yeah, so New Calypso is how we define it
01:10:14Yeah
01:10:16I want to speak a little bit because you put it out there this morning
01:10:21And over the past few weeks, there has been some talk about it
01:10:26About this performance at Glastonbury
01:10:29And for people who don't know
01:10:31They have had what you would call big, big artists over the years
01:10:36Such as Jay-Z and Beyonce
01:10:39Coldplay is headlining it this year
01:10:41Right, Coldplay
01:10:42Well, I suspect Coldplay is back, eh?
01:10:44Because I think that they
01:10:45Yeah, I'm sure they've been there before
01:10:47In the past
01:10:48But tell us, how did this happen?
01:10:51So this is under Tower Management
01:10:54Specifically Cara Niles
01:10:56He takes the job of figuring out the economic feasibility of art in general very seriously
01:11:05So he attends several conferences a year
01:11:08On his own pocket, on his own dime
01:11:10To learn the international festival circuit
01:11:13And the music industry in different markets
01:11:15And this would have been based on some connections made
01:11:20But the deeper connection is
01:11:22Freetown Collective is a green band
01:11:25We believe in sustainability
01:11:27We believe in treating our planet sustainably
01:11:30And the stage that we are headlining is a green stage
01:11:34So there's some congruence and philosophy there
01:11:37So we are actually headlining our stage on that night
01:11:40Yeah
01:11:41Have you all decided as yet
01:11:44I'm sure you have
01:11:46But to your fans out there and our viewers
01:11:50Have you all decided as yet
01:11:52Some of the songs that you're going to perform?
01:11:54Oh yeah, man, that's been decided
01:11:56We had our first rehearsal last night actually
01:12:00Yeah
01:12:01And it felt really good
01:12:02Yes, it did
01:12:03But in the lead up to Glastonbury
01:12:07It's becoming a tradition now
01:12:09Every year before we actually head out on tour
01:12:11That we do this Tight Spaces tour
01:12:13And the Tight Spaces acoustic tour
01:12:15Basically is us reconnecting with our core
01:12:20Our core audience
01:12:21But as well with our core, right?
01:12:24These songs, we perform them so much
01:12:26That at times it can feel kind of rude
01:12:29You perform the song a million times
01:12:30You feel like you know the song
01:12:32Especially on the bigger stages where it's loud
01:12:34There's a kind of urgency in the performance
01:12:36But when we break it down and it's just us
01:12:38And a few people
01:12:39With the Tight Spaces tour
01:12:40We try not to go over 100 people
01:12:43And in some spaces there are as little as 40
01:12:45We have our opportunity to really listen to the music
01:12:48To listen to what we have been saying
01:12:51To sit with the music
01:12:52To see the real time effect
01:12:54Close and personal with people
01:12:57So that's what the tour is about
01:12:58And we have two spots left on the tour
01:13:01On Thursday, we will be in Naparimabo, Dongsot
01:13:05And then next week Wednesday, the 19th
01:13:07We will be in Soundforge for the finale of the tour
01:13:10Where can people get the tickets?
01:13:11Island E-Tickets
01:13:13Just search Freetown Collective Tight Spaces 2024
01:13:17And you'll find your tickets there
01:13:18If you are having issues with Island E-Tickets
01:13:20Just message us on any one of the platforms
01:13:22At wearefreetown on Instagram
01:13:23Is the best place to find us
01:13:25Yeah
01:13:28What's the...
01:13:30Because I think that when artists
01:13:33Sometimes they are forming a band
01:13:36They want to do something particular at that time
01:13:39And as the journey
01:13:41As they go along that journey
01:13:42It sometimes changes
01:13:44What is it that Freetown wants to achieve?
01:13:48You remember at a time in Trinidad and Tobago
01:13:51Every so-called artist
01:13:53They wanted to be featured on the soca or the billboard charts
01:13:57Others wanted to win Grammys
01:14:00What's the main objective?
01:14:03The main objective is to remind artists
01:14:09That we have been given an opportunity
01:14:12And a privilege
01:14:14To remind people of who they are
01:14:16The reason why we took the route of
01:14:19Building a strong home fan base
01:14:22And sticking to that is
01:14:24Because we have real socio-economic work to do at home
01:14:28We are not satisfied with just being known as
01:14:31Good or bad artists
01:14:33As well as real bad
01:14:34If we continue getting those compliments
01:14:37In the next 10 years
01:14:38And we are unable to do anything for our community
01:14:41I would have felt like we failed
01:14:43So it is using the music as a vehicle
01:14:47To empower our people, empower our families
01:14:49But also to rebuild a really strong sense of community
01:14:54That can affect communities, the region
01:14:58And eventually the world
01:15:00Pride in self
01:15:02I think a lot of what we feel now
01:15:04In terms of crime and all these different things
01:15:06It stems from people not feeling as though they belong somewhere
01:15:11Where the law often feels unequal
01:15:13And there are so many different issues
01:15:15And people don't feel as though
01:15:17They are a proud citizen of a place
01:15:19Because I always say
01:15:20You wouldn't go home and litter in your living room
01:15:22You wouldn't do it, you just wouldn't do it, right?
01:15:24Most people
01:15:25Unless something is kind of wrong with you
01:15:26You're not going to just throw wrappers in your living room
01:15:28But when we step outside
01:15:29We don't realise this is where we live
01:15:31This is our space
01:15:32This is our space
01:15:33Why would you throw something on the ground
01:15:35In your space?
01:15:36You understand?
01:15:37But it just means that you don't feel
01:15:39That this is yours
01:15:40You know what I mean?
01:15:41Is there a conflict
01:15:43With sometimes
01:15:45What you want to say
01:15:47And business
01:15:49The viability
01:15:51Always
01:15:52Of business
01:15:53Absolutely
01:15:54Always
01:15:55Because you have to live, right?
01:15:56Yes, you have to live
01:15:57Always
01:15:58But what we have found is
01:16:00There's always a place for meaningful dialogue
01:16:03Even if we part ways
01:16:05And there's no consummation in moving forward
01:16:08I think there's always a space at the table
01:16:12To say where our intentions are coming from
01:16:16And for corporations to respectfully say
01:16:18That's too much exposure for our brand
01:16:21But we get where you're coming from
01:16:23And to me that's enough
01:16:24To not be othered
01:16:26And you know we
01:16:27We've had to turn away a lot of money at times
01:16:29Over the years
01:16:30Because we don't
01:16:31One of the things that we don't really do
01:16:32Is take alcohol sponsorship
01:16:34And that's been a stance that we've taken
01:16:36Again, we have nothing against alcohol
01:16:38Or people who drink alcohol
01:16:39Or any of that
01:16:40But for our personal stance
01:16:42It's something that we've stayed away from
01:16:43From hard liquor, you know?
01:16:45Yeah
01:16:46And you know at first
01:16:48It was extremely difficult
01:16:49But then what you find is
01:16:50As you take a specific stance
01:16:52There are other organizations
01:16:54And other causes
01:16:56That makes you really good for
01:16:58Those particular things
01:16:59Because this is who you are, right?
01:17:01And sometimes, like I say
01:17:02It takes a little longer
01:17:04Because it's a different route
01:17:05But at the end of the day
01:17:07Even though it's a different route
01:17:09And you've traveled a little more
01:17:11Than the other person might have
01:17:13You are yourself
01:17:14While you're doing that
01:17:15And there's a deep level of satisfaction
01:17:17Knowing that you haven't strayed
01:17:18From what your values are
01:17:19Yeah, Mohammed said it too
01:17:20And away money, you know?
01:17:22Only strong enough to do that out there
01:17:24All money is not good money
01:17:26All money is not good money
01:17:28Gentlemen
01:17:30And that's the thing
01:17:31When you all come here
01:17:32We speak about so many things
01:17:34And sometimes I forget
01:17:35What we come here to speak about, right?
01:17:37Let me get back to your...
01:17:39Tight Spaces Acoustic Tour
01:17:41Because management is watching this
01:17:42Yeah, yeah
01:17:43Good morning, management
01:17:44They're talking to man
01:17:45But what can I say?
01:17:46The tickets are available
01:17:47On Island E-Tickets
01:17:48For those of you who have never seen
01:17:49Freetown Collective at all
01:17:52You know, this is a real serious opportunity
01:17:54For you to be able to
01:17:56Witness us in our raw form
01:17:57This is where we started
01:17:59This is how we write our songs
01:18:00This is us at our most vulnerable
01:18:02At our most beautiful, in my opinion
01:18:04Again, the bigger stages
01:18:06Can feel a bit distant
01:18:07You know, sometimes there's
01:18:0820, 30, 40, 50 feet
01:18:10Between you and the first person
01:18:11In front of you
01:18:12But with this
01:18:13I mean, you're literally
01:18:14Right in front of us
01:18:16I will also add that
01:18:17This is how we grow into songs too
01:18:19So we have songs that we've
01:18:21Just released, just written
01:18:23And when we get a chance
01:18:24To share intimate spaces
01:18:26And perform them
01:18:27And get that energy
01:18:28Back from our residents
01:18:31We absorb that
01:18:33And learn the songs better
01:18:35Feel the songs
01:18:36And able to project it more powerfully
01:18:38So you are part of our ability
01:18:40To take this message internationally
01:18:43Absolutely
01:18:44Yeah, Mohammed, give us the final word
01:18:46Well, we head off to Glastonbury
01:18:48On the 26th
01:18:49We perform on the 29th
01:18:51And then we have our own show
01:18:52In Brixton
01:18:53Alongside the Just Vibes family
01:18:55On the 30th
01:18:56So we're really, really looking forward to it
01:18:58Again, those of you
01:18:59That have never seen Freetown Collective
01:19:01Up close and personal like this
01:19:02This is a real beautiful opportunity
01:19:04For you to do so
01:19:05Tickets are available
01:19:06On Island E-Tickets
01:19:07Tomorrow we are down south
01:19:08And next week, Wednesday
01:19:09We are in Sound Forge
01:19:10On Mocorappo Road
01:19:12We're looking forward to it
01:19:13In our big, big way
01:19:14Trinidad and Tobago
01:19:15We love all of you
01:19:16Plenty, plenty, plenty
01:19:17Yeah, yeah
01:19:18And we're seeing the love
01:19:20Mohammed and Lou
01:19:22I think that's the bell
01:19:24I shouldn't say your fans alone
01:19:26But other people are coming along
01:19:27For the ride
01:19:28Yeah, gentlemen
01:19:29It's always a pleasure
01:19:30Speaking with you all
01:19:31I don't have to say
01:19:32Good luck at Glastonbury
01:19:34I know, as they would say
01:19:35Well, you will shell it down
01:19:37Yeah
01:19:38Right
01:19:39Who say that?
01:19:40Huh?
01:19:41Who say that?
01:19:42Well, the people
01:19:43Shell down
01:19:44Well, the people and them
01:19:45National TV
01:19:46The people and them
01:19:47Shell down
01:19:48Shell down
01:19:49Not in that way
01:19:50Shell it
01:19:51But it's always a pleasure
01:19:52Speaking with you all
01:19:53And I'm sure that you all
01:19:54Will be back
01:19:55Because we have Carnival
01:19:56Coming up
01:19:57So we're going to
01:19:58A very short break
01:19:59We're coming back, everybody
01:20:00All right
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01:21:32Do you remember?
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01:21:38Don't you remember?
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01:21:42I'm gonna love you
01:21:44Do you remember?
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01:22:23It's time
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01:29:22Do you remember?
01:29:23It's time
01:29:24I'm gonna love you
01:29:25Do you remember?
01:29:26It's time
01:29:27I'm gonna love you
01:29:28Do you remember?
01:29:29It's time
01:29:30I'm gonna love you
01:29:31Do you remember?
01:29:32It's time
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01:29:34Do you remember?
01:29:35It's time
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01:29:37Do you remember?
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01:29:40Do you remember?
01:29:41It's time
01:29:42I'm gonna love you
01:29:43Do you remember?
01:29:44It's time
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01:29:46Do you remember?
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01:29:49Do you remember?
01:29:50It's time
01:29:51I'm gonna love you
01:29:52Do you remember?
01:29:53It's time
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01:29:55Do you remember?
01:29:56It's time
01:29:57I'm gonna love you
01:29:58Do you remember?
01:29:59It's time
01:30:00I'm gonna love you
01:30:01Do you remember?
01:30:02It's time
01:30:03I'm gonna love you
01:30:04Do you remember?
01:30:05It's time
01:30:06I'm gonna love you
01:30:07Do you remember?
01:30:08It's time
01:30:09I'm gonna love you
01:30:10Do you remember?
01:30:11It's time
01:30:12I'm gonna love you
01:30:13Do you remember?
01:30:14It's time
01:30:15I'm gonna love you
01:30:16Do you remember?
01:30:17It's time
01:30:18I'm gonna love you
01:30:19Do you remember?
01:30:20It's time
01:30:21I'm gonna love you
01:30:22Do you remember?
01:30:23It's time
01:30:24I'm gonna love you
01:30:25Do you remember?
01:30:26It's time
01:30:27I'm gonna love you
01:30:28Do you remember?
01:30:29It's time
01:30:30I'm gonna love you
01:30:31Do you remember?
01:30:32It's time
01:30:33I'm gonna love you
01:30:34Do you remember?
01:30:35It's time
01:30:36I'm gonna love you
01:30:37Do you remember?
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01:30:40Do you remember?
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01:30:43Do you remember?
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01:30:46Do you remember?
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01:30:49Do you remember?
01:30:50It's time
01:30:51I'm gonna love you
01:30:52Do you remember?
01:30:53It's time
01:30:54I'm gonna love you
01:30:55Do you remember?
01:30:56It's time
01:30:57I'm gonna love you
01:30:58Do you remember?
01:30:59It's time
01:31:00I'm gonna love you
01:31:01Do you remember?
01:31:02It's time
01:31:03I'm gonna love you
01:31:04Do you remember?
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01:31:08It's time
01:31:09I'm gonna love you
01:31:10Do you remember?
01:31:11It's time
01:31:12I'm gonna love you
01:31:13Do you remember?
01:31:14It's time
01:31:15I'm gonna love you
01:31:16Do you remember?
01:31:17It's time
01:31:18I'm gonna love you
01:31:19Do you remember?
01:31:20It's time
01:31:21I'm gonna love you
01:31:22Do you remember?
01:31:23It's time
01:31:24I'm gonna love you
01:31:25Do you remember?
01:31:26It's time
01:31:27I'm gonna love you
01:31:28Do you remember?
01:31:29It's time
01:31:30I'm gonna love you
01:31:31Do you remember?
01:31:32It's time
01:31:33I'm gonna love you
01:31:34Do you remember?
01:31:35It's time
01:31:36I'm gonna love you
01:31:37Do you remember?
01:31:38It's time
01:31:39I'm gonna love you
01:31:40Do you remember?
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01:31:42I'm gonna love you
01:31:43Do you remember?
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01:31:45I'm gonna love you
01:31:46Do you remember?
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01:31:48I'm gonna love you
01:31:49Do you remember?
01:31:50It's time
01:31:51I'm gonna love you
01:31:52Do you remember?
01:31:53It's time
01:31:54I'm gonna love you
01:31:55Do you remember?
01:31:56It's time
01:31:57I'm gonna love you
01:31:58Do you remember?
01:31:59It's time
01:32:00I'm gonna love you
01:32:01Do you remember?
01:32:02It's time
01:32:03I'm gonna love you
01:32:04Do you remember?
01:32:05It's time
01:32:06I'm gonna love you
01:32:07Do you remember?
01:32:08It's time
01:32:09I'm gonna love you
01:32:10Do you remember?
01:32:11It's time
01:32:12I'm gonna love you
01:32:13Do you remember?
01:32:14It's time
01:32:15I'm gonna love you
01:32:16Do you remember?
01:32:17It's time
01:32:18I'm gonna love you
01:32:19Do you remember?
01:32:20It's time
01:32:21I'm gonna love you
01:32:22Do you remember?
01:32:23It's time
01:32:24I'm gonna love you
01:32:25Do you remember?
01:32:26It's time
01:32:27I'm gonna love you
01:32:28Do you remember?
01:32:29It's time
01:32:30I'm gonna love you
01:32:31Do you remember?
01:32:32It's time
01:32:33I'm gonna love you
01:32:34Do you remember?
01:32:35It's time
01:32:36I'm gonna love you
01:32:37Do you remember?
01:32:38It's time
01:32:39I'm gonna love you
01:32:40Do you remember?
01:32:41It's time
01:32:42I'm gonna love you
01:32:43Do you remember?
01:32:44It's time
01:32:45I'm gonna love you
01:32:46Do you remember?
01:32:47It's time
01:32:48I'm gonna love you
01:32:49Do you remember?
01:32:50It's time
01:32:51I'm gonna love you
01:32:52Do you remember?
01:32:53It's time
01:32:54I'm gonna love you
01:32:55Do you remember?
01:32:56It's time
01:32:57I'm gonna love you
01:32:58Do you remember?
01:32:59It's time
01:33:00I'm gonna love you
01:33:01Do you remember?
01:33:02It's time
01:33:03I'm gonna love you
01:33:04Do you remember?
01:33:05It's time
01:33:06I'm gonna love you
01:33:07Do you remember?
01:33:08It's time
01:33:09I'm gonna love you
01:33:10Do you remember?
01:33:11It's time
01:33:12I'm gonna love you
01:33:13Do you remember?
01:33:14It's time
01:33:15I'm gonna love you
01:33:16Do you remember?
01:33:17It's time
01:33:18I'm gonna love you
01:33:19Do you remember?
01:33:20It's time
01:33:21I'm gonna love you
01:33:22Do you remember?
01:33:23It's time
01:33:24I'm gonna love you
01:33:25Do you remember?
01:33:26It's time
01:33:27I'm gonna love you
01:33:28Do you remember?
01:33:29It's time
01:33:30I'm gonna love you
01:33:31Do you remember?
01:33:32It's time
01:33:33I'm gonna love you
01:33:34Do you remember?
01:33:35It's time
01:33:36I'm gonna love you
01:33:37Do you remember?
01:33:38It's time
01:33:39I'm gonna love you
01:33:40Do you remember?
01:33:41It's time
01:33:42I'm gonna love you
01:33:43Do you remember?
01:33:44It's time
01:33:45I'm gonna love you
01:33:46Do you remember?
01:33:47It's time
01:33:48I'm gonna love you
01:33:49Do you remember?
01:33:50It's time
01:33:51I'm gonna love you
01:33:52Do you remember?
01:33:53It's time
01:33:54I'm gonna love you
01:33:55Do you remember?
01:33:56It's time
01:33:57I'm gonna love you
01:33:58Do you remember?
01:33:59It's time
01:34:00I'm gonna love you
01:34:01Do you remember?
01:34:02It's time
01:34:03I'm gonna love you
01:34:04Do you remember?
01:34:05It's time
01:34:06I'm gonna love you
01:34:07Do you remember?
01:34:08It's time
01:34:09I'm gonna love you
01:34:10Do you remember?
01:34:11It's time
01:34:12I'm gonna love you
01:34:13Do you remember?
01:34:14It's time
01:34:15I'm gonna love you
01:34:16Do you remember?
01:34:17It's time
01:34:18I'm gonna love you
01:34:19Do you remember?
01:34:20It's time
01:34:21I'm gonna love you
01:34:22Do you remember?
01:34:23It's time
01:34:24I'm gonna love you
01:34:25Do you remember?
01:34:26Batiste, born for this
01:34:32Let's continue
01:34:36All right
01:34:37We seem to be having some technical problems there
01:34:39but I think that we have addressed them
01:34:41All right
01:34:42So, Mr. Mohammed
01:34:45Let's talk a little bit about
01:34:48your work
01:34:49and your team's work
01:34:51If it is that
01:34:54people are aware
01:34:56that a certain employer
01:35:00or relatives
01:35:03they do have a lot of young children
01:35:05or young children
01:35:07doing all sorts of jobs
01:35:10and in some cases
01:35:11maybe missing school and so on
01:35:15Where does your inspectorate come in?
01:35:19And how does it deal with that matter?
01:35:21Yeah, so we have a team of labor inspectors
01:35:23at the labor inspectorate unit
01:35:24of the Ministry of Labor
01:35:26and basically reports come into the unit
01:35:30respect to child labor
01:35:32and we would assign a labor inspector
01:35:34to investigate
01:35:36So the inspector goes in
01:35:38interviews the child
01:35:39interviews the employer
01:35:41slash parent
01:35:42depends on who is
01:35:43involving child and child labor
01:35:45and try to understand
01:35:47why is the child involved in child labor
01:35:50what are the underlying issues involved
01:35:54and based on that
01:35:55we would do referrals
01:35:56to the Children's Authority
01:35:57Ministry of Education
01:35:58other agencies
01:36:00for support services
01:36:01So while we want to remove the child
01:36:03from the environment
01:36:05because it's impacting on their school
01:36:07it may be dangerous to their health
01:36:09they may be exposed to
01:36:11the dangers in doing the job
01:36:15We also want to ensure that
01:36:17there is sufficient support services
01:36:19available by other agencies
01:36:20to ensure that the child
01:36:22doesn't just move from one location
01:36:23to another location
01:36:25as a child laborer again
01:36:27So it's a holistic approach
01:36:28to addressing the issue
01:36:30We are asking the public
01:36:32that if they observe a child working
01:36:34particularly during school hours
01:36:36or if the child appears to be
01:36:38doing dangerous or hazardous work
01:36:40to report it to the labor inspectorate
01:36:43at 2990300 option 3
01:36:47they could also
01:36:49go to our social media pages
01:36:51and share information
01:36:52about any concerns they have
01:36:53request information
01:36:55and they can assist us
01:36:57in being advocates for child labor
01:36:58out there
01:37:00But how long does that period take
01:37:03to investigate and take action?
01:37:06So it depends on
01:37:08access to the child
01:37:10because sometimes
01:37:12the cases we have reports on
01:37:14children are on the streets selling
01:37:16they may be selling on the beach
01:37:18on the highways
01:37:19and shopping mall car parks
01:37:21on the main roads
01:37:23different locations
01:37:25and sometimes they move
01:37:27So the inspector would go out
01:37:29and investigate to observe
01:37:31once the observation
01:37:33reveals that the child is actually
01:37:35in a child labor situation
01:37:37then we proceed to interview
01:37:39the relevant persons
01:37:41to gather information
01:37:43following which if there are any
01:37:45the first approach is really
01:37:47to intervene and get the child
01:37:48out of the labor situation
01:37:49and get support services
01:37:51and we look at the
01:37:53we work with our legal department
01:37:54to identify if there are any breaches
01:37:56to the legislation
01:37:57for possible referral
01:37:59to the magistrate court
01:38:00for determination
01:38:02Yeah
01:38:03Mr. Mohammed, anything else
01:38:04you'd like to tell us
01:38:05before you leave us this morning
01:38:06anything that we didn't touch on
01:38:08as you observe this day?
01:38:11Yeah, so we are rolling out
01:38:12a number of activities
01:38:14One is to visit the
01:38:15morning TV shows
01:38:16with our child labor ambassadors
01:38:18to share information about
01:38:20child labor and
01:38:21the child labor ambassadors program
01:38:23As you mentioned
01:38:24the Honorable Minister
01:38:25has posted his remarks
01:38:27in the two daily newspapers
01:38:30highlighting what the government
01:38:32their commitment to
01:38:33addressing child labor
01:38:34in Trinidad and Tobago
01:38:35Labor inspectors would also be
01:38:37visiting agricultural markets
01:38:40across the country
01:38:41to raise awareness
01:38:42with farmers about child labor
01:38:44Those are some of the activities
01:38:46we have planned for today
01:38:48But in closing
01:38:49basically children should be given
01:38:52every opportunity
01:38:53to reach their full potential
01:38:55as adults
01:38:56Yeah
01:38:57And we want to plead with
01:38:58members of the public
01:39:00if they see child labor
01:39:01report it
01:39:02so we can investigate and stop it
01:39:04Yeah
01:39:05And these are the numbers
01:39:06that people can call
01:39:07Yes
01:39:08Yeah
01:39:09Alright
01:39:10Mr. Mohammed, thank you very much
01:39:11for coming this morning
01:39:12And Rondell, thank you for coming
01:39:13Thank you
01:39:15Alright
01:39:16We are going to a very short break
01:39:17everybody
01:39:18We're coming back
01:39:41I'm ready, ready, ready, ready
01:39:43Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
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01:40:40Fellas
01:40:41Things in Toronto and Tobago
01:40:42we know can be frustrating
01:40:44and we have the right
01:40:46as human beings, as males
01:40:47to be angry sometimes
01:40:49to be frustrated sometimes
01:40:50to be jealous
01:40:52It's all natural, it's all normal
01:40:54But what we don't have the right
01:40:55to do
01:40:56is to be abusive
01:40:57towards our partners
01:40:59We have daughters
01:41:00We have mothers
01:41:02We have female friends
01:41:04We wouldn't want
01:41:05abuse to be a part of their lives
01:41:08So why make it a part of our lives?
01:41:35It's not a thrill
01:41:36when your speed can't kill
01:41:38Thank you
01:42:05Alright everybody
01:42:06So welcome back
01:42:07So we are taking your calls now
01:42:08You're calling us on 623-1711
01:42:10The extension, it's 1995
01:42:12A lot of things to discuss
01:42:13in Trinidad and Tobago
01:42:15As always
01:42:16One of the stories
01:42:17in the Daily Express today
01:42:19D.L. Singh health sector
01:42:20can deal with
01:42:21Saharan dust cases
01:42:23So Health Minister
01:42:24Terence D.L. Singh says
01:42:25the public health sector
01:42:26is equipped
01:42:27with the necessary staff
01:42:28and medical devices
01:42:29to deal with those
01:42:30vulnerable groups
01:42:31affected by the Saharan dust
01:42:33and other air quality issues
01:42:36Responding to a question
01:42:37from Opposition Senator
01:42:38Wade Mark yesterday
01:42:39D.L. Singh said
01:42:40high levels of Saharan dust
01:42:42may exacerbate illness
01:42:44in people with high risk
01:42:46of respiratory complications
01:42:48including people
01:42:49with pre-existing lung conditions
01:42:52such as asthma
01:42:53and people with
01:42:54pre-existing heart disease
01:42:56be elderly and children
01:42:59Alright
01:43:00So you're calling us on 623-1711
01:43:02The extension, it's 1995
01:43:05So you can please call us now
01:43:06Child left in vehicle
01:43:08at Price Mart
01:43:09Dad charged with cruelty
01:43:12The man who allegedly
01:43:13left his 3-year-old daughter
01:43:14in a car
01:43:15while he went into
01:43:16the Price Mart shopping facility
01:43:18in Laramie
01:43:19has been charged with
01:43:20cruelty to a child
01:43:22Vendor Kareem Mohammed
01:43:2356 of Lal Bahari Trace Penal
01:43:25yesterday
01:43:26faced High Court Master
01:43:28Shabana Shah
01:43:29but charge was laid
01:43:30by PC Maynard
01:43:32You know
01:43:33and you know
01:43:34sometimes you see
01:43:36this all across the country
01:43:38that someone may go
01:43:40into the shop
01:43:41and they have their child
01:43:43in the vehicle alone
01:43:45the window is down
01:43:47the child is all
01:43:48in the vicinity
01:43:49of the gas shift
01:43:50and on the front seat
01:43:52and at the windscreen
01:43:53and so on
01:43:54so sometimes we do see it
01:43:56as a simple thing
01:43:57but a lot can happen
01:43:59in the twinkle of an eye
01:44:01especially when it comes
01:44:02to children
01:44:03I remember driving
01:44:04somewhere the other day
01:44:05and there was this vehicle
01:44:07in front of me
01:44:08the parents are having
01:44:10a discussion
01:44:11and the child
01:44:12that child is
01:44:13half way outside the vehicle
01:44:15and the child's arm
01:44:17is flailing in the wind
01:44:19like that
01:44:20and they are unconcerned
01:44:22because they are having
01:44:23the discussion
01:44:24they don't know
01:44:25what is happening
01:44:26alright
01:44:27so you are calling us
01:44:28on 623-1711
01:44:29the extension is
01:44:301995
01:44:32alright
01:44:33apparently nobody
01:44:34wants to speak with me
01:44:35this morning
01:44:36alright
01:44:37so I have to talk
01:44:38you know
01:44:39I have to talk
01:44:40yeah
01:44:41so getting back
01:44:42to this issue
01:44:43of child labor
01:44:44which is
01:44:45on the front burner
01:44:47you know
01:44:48and I do understand
01:44:49that people
01:44:50are going through
01:44:51hardships
01:44:52I do understand
01:44:53that
01:44:54but some of the
01:44:55conditions
01:44:56under which
01:44:57you have
01:44:58some of these children
01:44:59working
01:45:00it's really
01:45:02it's really
01:45:03inhumane
01:45:04in some cases
01:45:05you see them
01:45:06in the parking lots
01:45:08of business
01:45:09establishments
01:45:10you see them
01:45:11on the highways
01:45:12and byways
01:45:13you see them
01:45:14in and out
01:45:15of the
01:45:16of the traffic
01:45:17and you know
01:45:19yes I understand
01:45:20that times are hard
01:45:21but you know what
01:45:22sometimes you need
01:45:23to make sacrifices
01:45:25so that your children
01:45:26don't go through
01:45:27similar conditions
01:45:29as to what you are
01:45:30going through right now
01:45:31so that's my message
01:45:32to you all this morning
01:45:34alright
01:45:35so you're calling us
01:45:36on 623-1711
01:45:37the extension
01:45:38it's 1995 or so
01:45:41there is an
01:45:42interesting
01:45:46story
01:45:47that I saw
01:45:48today
01:45:49and it concerns
01:45:50the
01:45:51demerit
01:45:52point
01:45:53system
01:45:54and I know
01:45:55that there are
01:45:56going to be
01:45:57some changes
01:45:58happening there
01:45:59again because
01:46:00of the way
01:46:01that people
01:46:02are using
01:46:03the highways
01:46:04and byways
01:46:05and speeding
01:46:06and so on
01:46:07so
01:46:08government
01:46:09and the ministry
01:46:10of works
01:46:11and transport
01:46:12they are trying
01:46:13to clamp down
01:46:14on that situation
01:46:15I was shocked
01:46:16when earlier
01:46:17this year
01:46:18we did have
01:46:19Brent Batson here
01:46:20and Brent Batson
01:46:21was speaking about
01:46:22the number
01:46:23of road fatalities
01:46:24and to me
01:46:25these fatalities
01:46:26are astronomical
01:46:27in numbers
01:46:28and also
01:46:29it is
01:46:30up
01:46:31relating to
01:46:32pedestrians
01:46:33Valencia is on
01:46:34the line
01:46:35Valencia
01:46:36good morning
01:46:37good morning
01:46:38Mr. Hopkinson
01:46:39morning sir
01:46:40I want to get
01:46:41back to that
01:46:42issue that
01:46:43the Prime
01:46:44Minister
01:46:45brought up
01:46:46a while
01:46:47back
01:46:48about
01:46:49that
01:46:50destruction
01:46:51and
01:46:52and
01:46:53things like
01:46:54that
01:46:55and
01:46:56it
01:46:57relates
01:46:58to the
01:46:59SSA
01:47:00because
01:47:01we are not
01:47:02hearing anything
01:47:03about it
01:47:04which was
01:47:05so grave
01:47:06at the
01:47:07point in
01:47:08time
01:47:09and persons
01:47:10who have
01:47:11been involved
01:47:12in my
01:47:13opinion
01:47:14have been
01:47:15wrongfully
01:47:16charged
01:47:17and some
01:47:18of the
01:47:19information
01:47:20is just
01:47:21not hearing
01:47:22about it
01:47:24not hearing
01:47:25anything
01:47:26anything further
01:47:27like it just
01:47:28died
01:47:29all this
01:47:30well I know
01:47:31that an investigation
01:47:32is underway
01:47:33in Ocala
01:47:34and you know
01:47:35that when an
01:47:36investigation is
01:47:37underway
01:47:38certain people
01:47:39are very
01:47:40hesitant to
01:47:41say anything
01:47:42about it
01:47:43but I know
01:47:44an investigation
01:47:45is underway
01:47:46I know that
01:47:47there is a
01:47:48new head
01:47:49of the SSA
01:47:50I remember
01:47:51seeing reports
01:47:52that there
01:47:53was a
01:47:54shooting
01:47:55at a
01:47:56quarry
01:47:57in
01:47:58Valencia
01:47:59and I
01:48:00just want
01:48:01to put
01:48:02on the
01:48:03table
01:48:04this
01:48:05morning
01:48:06these
01:48:07quarries
01:48:08they
01:48:09are
01:48:10very
01:48:11important
01:48:12and
01:48:13they
01:48:14are
01:48:15very
01:48:16important
01:48:17and
01:48:18they
01:48:19are
01:48:20very
01:48:21important
01:48:22and
01:48:23these
01:48:24quarries
01:48:25have
01:48:26been
01:48:27grounds
01:48:28for
01:48:29criminal
01:48:30activities
01:48:31over the
01:48:32years
01:48:33some quarries
01:48:34I'm not
01:48:35saying all
01:48:36but whether
01:48:37it is
01:48:38people
01:48:39stealing
01:48:40the aggregate
01:48:41doing all
01:48:42sorts of
01:48:43things up
01:48:44there
01:48:45and I
01:48:46just find
01:48:47in 2024
01:48:48June
01:48:49Wednesday
01:48:50we
01:48:51can
01:48:52confirm
01:48:53that some
01:48:54of these
01:48:55activities
01:48:56are
01:48:57illegal
01:48:58and again
01:48:59we are
01:49:00allowing it
01:49:01to happen
01:49:02and look
01:49:03you have
01:49:04yesterday
01:49:05I believe
01:49:06there was
01:49:07this
01:49:08standoff
01:49:09between
01:49:10men
01:49:11at a
01:49:12quarry
01:49:13and you
01:49:14had a
01:49:15situation
01:49:16where some
01:49:17gunmen
01:49:18confronted
01:49:19and
01:49:20if
01:49:21people
01:49:22do
01:49:23have
01:49:24the
01:49:25perception
01:49:26that
01:49:27sometimes
01:49:28we are
01:49:29looking the
01:49:30other way
01:49:31well in
01:49:32some
01:49:33cases that
01:49:35perception
01:49:36is
01:49:37correct
01:49:38because
01:49:39I just
01:49:40found
01:49:41out
01:49:42that
01:49:43in
01:49:44these
01:49:45quarries
01:49:46people
01:49:47used to
01:49:48because I just find, you know, we're still dealing with things for too long.
01:49:53It's just too long, so you don't know what is happening at the quarries.
01:49:57You're calling us on 623 1711, the extension,
01:50:00it's 1995.
01:50:06Studio is telling me this morning it would seem that the callers are upset
01:50:10with me. I know, they just don't want to talk to me
01:50:13this morning, that's all. Yeah, Roger, many workers still to get
01:50:17back pay, all right, and I'm sure that this is going to be
01:50:20a massive issue at the Labor Day celebrations on June 19th this year.
01:50:27So, President General of the Oil Fees Workers Trade Union, Ansel Roger,
01:50:30has said many public service workers have not received the back pay promised
01:50:35by the government. So, Roger made the statement during the
01:50:37Labor Day 2024 launch at the Transport Industrial Workers Union
01:50:42headquarters in Eastern, on the Eastern Main Road in
01:50:44Laventale yesterday. All right, Tobago is on the
01:50:48line. Tobago? Yes, Marlon, good morning. Morning, Tobago.
01:50:54Have they removed this vessel yet that has been spewing oil?
01:51:00Tobago, are you there? Yes. Go ahead, go ahead. I know you want to make a comment.
01:51:05Go ahead. Yes, the comment is about
01:51:09the child labor. Yes.
01:51:12You've got to, what I'm saying is that you have your child from you,
01:51:19right? You're growing your child up, you've got to teach your child.
01:51:23Not everybody academically is equipped, right? Right.
01:51:29Like me, for instance, like I learned a trade from 13 years,
01:51:34a straightener and a painter, and there I made my life.
01:51:39My mother sent me to learn a trade early from 13 years, going to school still.
01:51:44Anyhow, what I'm saying is that this child labor thing, with the
01:51:49pressure not too hard, you might have a child
01:51:54academically equipped, you know what I mean? But
01:51:59he now could learn a trade. I have a friend that
01:52:03can come so good, but he could really take good, an
01:52:06excellent carpenter. So a child could learn from
01:52:13small. Yes. And there now you can make your own
01:52:19decision. All right. Thank you very much, sir. And I
01:52:22don't think that that is a concern, you know,
01:52:24as the authorities have been saying. Well, they have no problem with
01:52:28with you assisting in the business, but be careful because certain lines are
01:52:33being crossed. All right. We have to go to a break.
01:52:35We're coming back, everybody.
01:52:58I'm Terence Longford.
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01:54:22All right, so that's going to do it for our program for you today. I know you're
01:54:26all heading out to the cricket. Be safe, all right, everybody. We want you back
01:54:29here tomorrow morning. All right, so have a good day.
01:54:31Enjoy the cricket tonight. See you tomorrow, Willie. We do have this image
01:54:34for you from Tobago. Bye for now.
01:54:51Bye.
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