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05:05 It is easier if we don't take action. But we save 1.2 billion.
05:12 Diesel, hopefully, can save around 4 billion.
05:19 So for this, almost 10 billion, what is it for?
05:24 Diesel is partly to meet the needs of public transportation.
05:36 Partly to add to the Rahmah cash flow, which has now reached 10 billion.
05:48 Apart from the diesel, which has gone up from 300 to 700 ringgit. Imagine our STR for 9 million people,
05:57 who are directly subsidised, that's 10 billion ringgit.
06:02 Then how many other steps do we take? So the money is not to raise the minister's allowance,
06:09 or for other interests. I put this thing.
06:15 We have to understand, first, subsidising is to ensure that subsidies are not given to the rich.
06:27 But I see in the political arena, there are many.
06:32 I say, subsidies are like donations, how can it be given to the rich?
06:36 "Oh, he said, it's insulting to the people because the people accept donations."
06:40 What's wrong with the people accepting donations from the government?
06:43 For me, there is no problem.
06:45 The responsibility of the government is to provide school aid.
06:49 Yes, that's our responsibility.
06:53 It's good for the people, but it's confusing.
06:57 We are like increasing the price of oil.
07:01 That's what's being tied up now, increasing the price of oil.
07:05 In the past, we promised, "Today we win, tomorrow the price of oil will go down."
07:11 That can be repeated. I said that in 2008.
07:17 That's right. Because at that time, the price of oil was high compared to the oil exporters,
07:24 especially Saudi Arabia.
07:25 When Saudi Arabia was about 50 cents, we were about 1.80 cents.
07:30 Now, as we know, we are 2.05 cents, Saudi Arabia is 2.95 cents.
07:38 So, the price of oil is only being reduced, the cost is increasing.
07:43 How do you then relate the cost in 2008 with 2024?
07:48 It's basic economics.
07:51 But the important thing is, when we raise the subsidy for diesel,
07:57 he gives the most.
07:59 If there are people who are in trouble,
08:05 we can help.
08:07 We can help the vegetable gardeners, the small-scale farmers.
08:10 We do research, and they are left behind.
08:12 He said, "If that's the case, we have to raise the subsidy because we use a lot of diesel."
08:16 We consider. There is no problem.
08:19 If it's more than 4 billion, and we are left with 3.5 billion, fine.
08:24 But don't have an effect that burdens the people.
08:28 That's actually our approach.
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