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00:00We're live in Salford for the very first time in this election, it's Sunak versus Starmer, the ICV debate.
00:08He looks better, his shirt's benign.
00:10Yeah, that's a good start, isn't it?
00:13Well, it looks like, you know, really sort of crisp.
00:16Yeah, yeah. I like his answers, I expect.
00:20We've committed to the Triple Lock Plus. Under us, the state pension will never pay tax.
00:24Under you, there's a retirements tax coming. For British pensioners, I think it's appalling.
00:29Explain to people, why do you think pensioners should pay tax on the state pension?
00:33The big problem with Liz Truss...
00:36Why are you talking about Liz Truss? Talk about yourself.
00:39Talk about yourself.
00:41Just answer the question.
00:43Honest to God, he's got everyone... I mean, I don't know how many people are tuning in, but they will expect one answer.
00:49Under Keir Starmer, we'll pay tax on the state pension for the first time in our country's history.
00:56I'm looking at Janet's response, when all the Prime Minister can say to her is what the position is in Wales.
01:06Janet, I don't know, you may not be...
01:08Well, that's where you're in charge, Keir, that's where all your ideas are being put into effect.
01:12And it's worse in Wales, far worse.
01:15You're seven weeks longer waiting in Wales, that actually matters?
01:18And actually, people in Wales are coming over to England.
01:22Stephen, immigration is too high.
01:25And we will need to take bold action to bring it down, whether that's legal migration,
01:30where we're going to introduce a new legal cap to guarantee that it will come down every year,
01:34to stop the unfairness of people crossing in Wales.
01:37Who was it who said, one of the border security people,
01:40was it National Security Agency that said you need to have a deterrent?
01:43You need a deterrent, yes, the National Security Agency.
01:45With Labour, they will be out on our streets.
01:47Thank you very much, Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer.
01:49Well, Stephen, the levels of...
01:52Yeah, here we go, the problem, the problem, the problem.
01:55We want the solution.
01:57What are you going to do?
02:00The Prime Minister says it's too high.
02:03But who's in charge?
02:05What, of the whole world?
02:06Yeah, what's your solution?
02:08Germany, is it too high in France?
02:10It's rocketing across Europe and Italy.
02:13Is that the Prime Minister's fault as well?
02:15Across the Channel.
02:1618 months ago, the Prime Minister made a promise,
02:19he said, just like the NHS promise,
02:21you're personally accountable for it, that he would stop the boats.
02:24This year alone, 10,000 people...
02:27Yeah, we know. They're all watching it, we've seen it.
02:30So what are you going to do? He's asked what you're going to do.
02:33And he's completely failed.
02:35We know the problem, right?
02:37You're not going to say a single thing about what you're going to do.
02:39For the last 12 months, the number of crossings have down a third
02:42because the plans we've put in place are starting to make a difference.
02:45Albania, down 90% with the returns deal.
02:49The only way to stop this problem is to say to people who come here illegally,
02:53they cannot stay and they will be removed.
02:55If I'm your Prime Minister, the planes will go to Rwanda,
02:58we will have a deterrent...
02:59Plan versus no plan.
03:01It's just been played out before our very eyes, Jenny.
03:04I'm surprised he's taken that approach.
03:06I was expecting at least something, some kind of pizzazz,
03:10some kind of new idea, something that's bold, some sense of direction.
03:14Or just an answer.
03:15Just an answer.
03:16Something about the future, but nothing about the future.
03:18Cheers.
03:20Nice to have watched it with you, Julia.
03:22It's good.