Wallows Do ASMR with Vinyl Records, Talk New Album "Model" & Their Creative Process

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On this episode of Mind Massage, Wallows take us on a sound journey using some of their favorite items such as their vinyls, tennis rackets, La Croix and more!

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00:00 [door opens]

00:01 [door closes]

00:02 [door opens]

00:03 [door closes]

00:04 [door opens]

00:05 Hello, I'm Brayden.

00:06 I'm Cole.

00:07 I'm Dylan.

00:08 And we're Wallows.

00:09 Welcome to Mind Massage.

00:11 We're here today to take you on a sound journey

00:15 using some of our favorite things.

00:17 [plastic crinkling]

00:23 [glass clinking]

00:24 So, sit back, relax, and enjoy.

00:27 [plastic crinkling]

00:35 Wow.

00:36 [plastic crinkling]

00:40 Where did you bring this from?

00:42 Um, this is my tennis racket.

00:44 I picked up tennis like a year and a half ago

00:47 and I became totally obsessed.

00:49 And, um, yeah, I play multiple times a week.

00:52 [plastic crinkling]

00:57 Okay.

00:59 Lemon and lime.

01:01 This might be kind of loud.

01:03 [plastic clinking]

01:16 One inch.

01:18 There you go.

01:20 [plastic crinkling]

01:22 There's something so satisfying about a tennis ball.

01:25 It's so green, so limey.

01:28 [plastic crinkling]

01:31 Dylan and I met when we were very young.

01:33 Um, and we bonded over our love for music,

01:36 the same kind of music.

01:38 We basically met Cole like a year and a half later.

01:41 And, um, from there we just started writing songs

01:45 and been a band now for a long time.

01:48 [plastic crinkling]

01:50 It's very nice.

01:52 Beautiful.

01:53 We've played as a band together for a really long time.

01:56 And, uh, we went by various band names

02:00 for most of our teenage years.

02:02 And at a certain point we were like,

02:04 "Man, we've kind of outgrown our old names.

02:07 What do we change it to?"

02:09 I think Brayden realized that in Tony Hawk's Underground--

02:13 Yep.

02:14 Is that right?

02:15 That's right.

02:16 There's a level that you can play called Wallows.

02:19 It's a skate spot in Hawaii

02:21 that we actually went to in real life when we played there.

02:24 That's right.

02:25 He threw it in the hat, and that's what we landed on.

02:29 I mean, I feel like our influences are ever-evolving

02:33 as we discover new artists and new music that's coming out.

02:37 Definitely stems back to, like, the Beatles originally,

02:40 and then the Strokes were a huge one for us

02:42 and things like that.

02:44 And nowadays it's just whatever is currently exciting to us,

02:50 I'd say.

02:52 But it's ever-evolving, really.

02:56 It's funny doing it like this.

02:58 You feel like you're being interrupted by something.

03:02 So we have a new album coming out.

03:05 It's called Model.

03:07 It's our third album.

03:09 We have two different versions of the final here.

03:12 We've got the standard one, which is clear,

03:15 and then the--which one is that?

03:17 I think this is the Sunset.

03:19 The Sunset, yeah.

03:20 Brayden's helping with that one.

03:21 Sunset, wow.

03:24 We're gonna open them for you.

03:27 Just gonna need a string grab.

03:39 Hang on.

03:42 It's our first time with a gatefold.

03:47 It has our poster on the inside.

03:50 And all the lyrics in the back.

04:07 I got the Sunset variant.

04:09 I've got the standard clear variant.

04:11 It's 12 songs.

04:24 No skips.

04:26 The creative process for Model,

04:29 we--I feel like this album came together quicker

04:33 than our other projects in terms of the recording.

04:37 We ended up going into a studio for about two months,

04:41 and we recorded 25 different songs.

04:45 So, yeah, just a lot of material this time.

04:50 And we very carefully narrowed it down to our favorite 12.

04:56 We worked with our producer, John Congleton, again,

04:59 who did our first album, Nothing Happens.

05:02 And, yeah, we're really excited for people to hear it.

05:06 It feels like our most mature project.

05:10 We've been a band for a long time now,

05:12 so, yeah, it feels like--it sounds that way.

05:17 I hope that listeners find this album to be very addictive

05:20 and easy to put on and not too difficult to digest,

05:24 just really enjoyable, really addicting.

05:26 It's my favorite kind of album, one that flies by

05:28 and one that you just want to keep putting on.

05:30 That's what I want people to get.

05:31 And I want our hardcore fans to--I want our hardcore--

05:37 like, our diehard fans to have something

05:39 that really means something to them with this album

05:41 like our albums before.

05:43 This can hopefully do something for them

05:45 at this point in their life

05:46 in that it resonates with their fans deeply.

05:49 I hope it's our most enjoyable yet.

05:52 You're always trying to, like, write music

05:55 that you haven't written before,

05:56 but naturally it's like you're writing it,

05:59 so, you know, I always say, like,

06:02 if I picked up a guitar now,

06:03 it may or may not be different to something

06:05 I would write seven years ago,

06:07 but it naturally will be because you just--

06:10 influences change or you hear something new,

06:13 or, like, how many more words can a novelist write?

06:17 They all exist.

06:18 You just got to rearrange them, you know?

06:21 Think about if I had to bring an album

06:23 to a deserted island,

06:24 it would be "Pet Sounds" by the Beach Boys

06:26 because I feel like that album is so beautiful,

06:29 and I feel like there's a lot of emotions

06:33 that that album, like, conjures up in you,

06:37 and I feel like if you wanted to remember

06:40 a lost love, you got that song,

06:42 and if you wanted to remember true love,

06:44 you have those songs as well.

06:46 Beautifully, beautifully, beautifully written.

06:49 - Cool.

06:50 "Pet Sounds" is what I was going to say,

06:52 so I'm going to say "Blonde."

06:54 - Nice.

06:55 - I was going to say "Pet Sounds," too,

06:57 which is, yeah.

06:59 Yeah, "Pet Sounds."

07:01 So I have this thing...

07:03 [blender whirring]

07:05 where every time I drink out of a can--

07:08 I absolutely have to do this every single time

07:11 when I finish the drink, every time.

07:14 But I'll walk you through what I do.

07:24 And then I fold the inside back.

07:27 And then I tear the top off this for some reason.

07:35 And I drop it in.

07:41 And I tear this in half.

07:45 Let's see.

07:49 I break it all into little pieces.

07:53 And then that's when I recycle the can.

07:56 I think it'd be really fun to switch lives

08:07 with Magnus Carlsen,

08:09 the greatest chess player of all time,

08:11 because it'd be really fun to see what that means.

08:15 Like, what is that dude cooking up in his brain?

08:19 It's pretty cool.

08:20 That's a great answer.

08:22 I would switch bodies with, um...

08:26 with Carlos Alcaraz.

08:28 [laughter]

08:30 So I could play tennis at a Grand Slam.

08:34 There you go.

08:35 If I had a superpower, it would be

08:38 to have Scotty Scheffler's golf skills.

08:41 That'd be so cool.

08:42 And maybe, like, fly.

08:44 Flying would be pretty coded.

08:47 I mean, teleportation would be great.

08:50 You could do so many things.

08:52 But then it would get boring,

08:53 and you wouldn't appreciate the journey.

08:56 The journey. True.

08:57 You would just always be places.

08:58 It's like the Seinfeld bit of, like,

09:00 "We're out. This is what out is."

09:02 And when you're out, you gotta go back.

09:04 People wanna get back when you're out.

09:06 It's like that vibe.

09:07 You're always just gonna wanna travel somewhere else.

09:09 You're not gonna be happy where you are.

09:11 Telepathy.

09:12 To be able to pick something up with your back.

09:15 Oh, but then you're--

09:17 Telekinesis.

09:18 Oh, shit. Telekinesis.

09:19 But then you're not gonna appreciate using your hands.

09:22 Yeah, it's always--

09:25 Have the superpower to always appreciate what's going on.

09:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

09:30 Okay.

09:32 So I brought my Friday the 13th Ultimate Collection.

09:42 Some Jason Voorhees.

09:46 One of the underrated people up there

09:49 with Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Jason Voorhees.

09:54 My number one is Michael Myers, though.

09:57 Sorry, Jason.

09:59 "Halloween III" season of "The Wedge"

10:01 is one of the greatest movies of all time.

10:08 Friday the 13th, the final chapter.

10:11 Jason has 14 kills.

10:14 That's pretty scratched up, Brayden.

10:19 Sorry.

10:21 Sorry, Michael.

10:23 We love Halloween.

10:25 We love going to Halloween Horror Nights every year.

10:28 We love horror movies.

10:30 Kids, if you didn't know, on a DVD,

10:34 there's scene selections.

10:36 So if you want a scene, you can't scroll.

10:38 You have to, like, put in--

10:40 You have to go to-- click forward to the scene of the movie

10:42 that you want to watch.

10:44 But this is one of the most underrated films of all time.

10:47 "Halloween III" season of "The Wedge."

10:49 If you haven't seen it, there's no Michael in it,

10:50 but it's so good.

10:52 So my favorite movies of all time are

10:55 "Halloween," "Halloween III," "Halloween IV,"

10:58 "Jaws," "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre."

11:01 The movie that I've probably seen the most in my life

11:04 is "Finding Nemo,"

11:06 'cause my little sister was obsessed.

11:08 I've seen it, like, just dozens of times.

11:12 It's a good one.

11:13 I think, uh,

11:15 the original "Scream" is way up there for me.

11:18 And also, uh, "The Iron Giant."

11:20 That's the first movie I ever saw in theaters,

11:23 and I was...that big.

11:25 And it's just--yeah, it's resonated with me ever since.

11:29 I still think it's an incredible, incredible film.

11:31 Also, the social network's really rewatchable and great.

11:35 It's also one of my favorites.

11:36 Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.

11:38 Oh, yeah.

11:40 Yeah? Yeah.

11:42 I feel like the goal would always be to just

11:45 write songs and release albums that we're really proud of

11:48 and never just, like, make an album to put one out

11:51 or just 'cause we need to.

11:53 You know, it's always gonna be

11:54 because we feel like we have music

11:56 that we want people to hear.

11:57 Like, there's no quota.

11:59 We're trying to keep up with, you know?

12:02 So I feel like our goal is just to stay consistent

12:04 with, like, the music we make,

12:07 and, um, and hopefully, um,

12:12 the shows grow because people discover you more.

12:15 I think that'd be really cool,

12:16 'cause that's what that means, you know?

12:18 I think just to get better.

12:20 I mean, uh, to believe that our music

12:22 is getting better and cooler and stronger.

12:24 Yeah. As long as we can keep doing that

12:26 and believing in that,

12:27 then we can keep doing this forever.

12:29 I also think my main goal for the next year and a half

12:33 while we're touring and doing this, like, big--

12:36 you know, the biggest tour we've done yet,

12:38 having these really big moments,

12:39 is to just remain present and enjoy and appreciate

12:43 and soak in every single moment,

12:45 because you never know when it could all just be done,

12:49 you know, so just really, like, take this in

12:52 as if it's never gonna happen again,

12:54 but it's definitely going to.

12:56 Yeah. It's just-- I just really soak it in,

12:58 'cause it's easy to go onstage and sort of, like,

13:00 dissociate and, like, get all--

13:01 and be like, "I don't even remember

13:03 what that show was like."

13:04 It was, like, a really important one.

13:06 I make sure I soak it all in.

13:07 Too many drinks.

13:09 Just kidding.

13:10 For me, your best self-love would be obvious things,

13:14 like trying not to compare yourself to others, you know?

13:17 Maybe staying off social media as much as you can,

13:20 or, like, don't let it, like, be, like,

13:22 your life or something, and mindfulness,

13:25 and, like, just meditation helps a lot,

13:29 and just being happy with who you are.

13:31 Like, I heard this thing with, like, self-consciousness

13:33 or, like, being over-aware of yourself is, like,

13:36 only-- would only be negative,

13:37 so it's, like, you want to try to just be happy

13:40 with who you are.

13:41 It's easier said than done, don't get me wrong,

13:43 but I think meditation, mindfulness, God unlocks.

13:46 Having good food, if you can, is good.

13:50 It's good, potentially.

13:51 It could help you out.

13:52 Whatever works for you, honestly.

13:54 My best self-love advice, I think, um,

13:57 I think it's okay to be critical of yourself.

14:01 I think it's okay to, like, want to edit yourself,

14:05 but if you do that, and, like,

14:07 there's things you would change or whatever,

14:09 just be really nice about it.

14:11 Just take it easy, like, everything's gonna be okay,

14:14 and whatever it is that you see yourself doing

14:17 or that you want to change or whatever,

14:20 just take baby steps, and, like, you can do it.

14:23 Like, sometimes I'm guilty of saying things

14:26 with, like, mean words

14:27 when they don't have to be mean words,

14:29 so just try to swap in some nicer ones.

14:35 I'm not trying to be a broken record,

14:37 but I do think that the best form of self-love

14:39 is staying away from social media as much as you can

14:43 because I think that is the precipice

14:45 of a lot of self-harm and mental harm,

14:49 and the more you can realize that that's not real life

14:52 and just focus on yourself and not what others are doing,

14:54 the better you're gonna feel,

14:55 and the more you're gonna find you love about yourself.

14:59 Well, everybody, we've been Wallows.

15:03 I hope you enjoyed our mind massage.

15:06 Our third album, "Model," releases on May 24th,

15:11 and, yeah, we hope you find it and listen,

15:16 and maybe we'll see you at a show.

15:19 (electronic beeping)

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