Lindsey Graham: 'Here's My Question' To Spain, Norway And Ireland For Recognizing Palestinian State

  • 4 months ago
On the Senate floor, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) slammed nations recognizing Palestinian statehood, and slammed the ICC's arrest warrants for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu.

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00:00 - Mr. Harris from South Carolina.
00:02 - Thank you very much.
00:03 To kind of continue on the theme
00:06 of my good friend from North Carolina.
00:09 Apparently today or yesterday,
00:12 the countries of Ireland, Spain, and Norway
00:15 recognized a Palestinian state.
00:18 Here's my question.
00:19 Who's in charge of the state?
00:21 Who's running the place?
00:23 And what are its boundaries?
00:25 Did you recognize Hamas being in charge of Gaza?
00:28 Do you wanna keep the PAs we know it now
00:30 in the West Bank, it's old and corrupt?
00:32 What did you recognize?
00:33 These are allies, but they need to hear from a friend.
00:38 What you did is reprehensible.
00:41 You're rewarding terrorism.
00:43 On October the 7th, Hamas attacked the state of Israel
00:47 and murdered 1,200 innocent people,
00:49 put babies in ovens, raped women,
00:56 set people on fire, and recorded it all.
01:00 And your response is to create a Palestinian state?
01:04 You're rewarding terrorism.
01:05 The way a Palestinian state will be created, if ever,
01:10 is through direct negotiations
01:12 between the state of Israel and Palestinians,
01:15 not a unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state
01:20 after the largest terrorist attack
01:22 against the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
01:25 To my friends in Ireland, Spain, and Norway,
01:28 what you did was reward Hamas.
01:30 Here's the message you're sending.
01:32 Kill Jews and you'll get a reward.
01:35 Again, tell me about the state you just recognized.
01:40 Who is in charge and what are the boundaries?
01:43 You can't answer those questions.
01:45 But you went ahead and recognized the Palestinian state
01:51 for political reasons.
01:52 The world is turned upside down.
01:54 And Madam President,
01:55 you've been a stalwart defender of Israel,
01:57 and we appreciate it.
01:58 Here's what I would say.
02:01 After October the 7th,
02:04 Hamas is engaged in using the Palestinian people
02:07 as human shields at a level I haven't seen in warfare.
02:10 And the response is to punish Israel,
02:13 who is in a no-win situation.
02:15 The battalions have to be destroyed.
02:17 The tunnels are underground.
02:19 Why do you need a 2,000-pound bomb?
02:21 Because there are underground tunnels
02:23 that only a major bomb will be able to destroy.
02:27 When it comes to civilian infrastructure,
02:29 the destruction of it has been in large part
02:33 because Hamas has used schools,
02:35 mosques, and hospitals as military sites,
02:41 putting all that infrastructure in place in jeopardy
02:45 by militarizing it.
02:46 On top of all that,
02:50 the International Criminal Court
02:51 has decided to issue an arrest warrant
02:54 for the Prime Minister of Israel
02:56 and the Defense Minister of Israel,
02:58 as well as Hamas leaders.
03:00 Boy, is the world turned upside down.
03:03 To consider Israel like Russia,
03:07 Putin's had an arrest warrant issued
03:10 'cause there's no rule of law in Russia.
03:11 People fall out of windows who are opposition leaders.
03:15 People get poisoned.
03:16 There is no rule of law in Russia.
03:18 There is a robust legal system in Israel.
03:21 It's probably the pride of the world.
03:24 The most independent judiciary maybe on the planet
03:27 lives and resides in Israel.
03:30 So Israel's not Russia,
03:33 and the Prime Minister and the Defense Minister of Israel
03:37 are not Hamas.
03:39 But in the ICC world, they're all the same.
03:42 That's despicable.
03:43 Here's what's happened.
03:46 Apparently, a lot of legal experts,
03:49 some well-known famous people,
03:52 advise the ICC that Israel needed to be charged,
03:57 the State of Israel, the Prime Minister,
03:58 and the Defense Minister,
04:01 they're legal experts under international law.
04:04 I would not pay these people five cents,
04:08 given my understanding of the Rome Statute.
04:11 I, along with seven members,
04:13 four Republicans, and four Democrats,
04:17 engaged the ICC weeks ago,
04:20 arguing that for you to bring a charge
04:25 against the State of Israel,
04:27 you would have to believe that the judiciary in Israel
04:31 is not independent, and Israel's not acting in good faith,
04:35 they're acting in bad faith,
04:36 when it comes to allegations against Israeli forces
04:40 and policies of Israel.
04:42 It's called complementarity.
04:44 Israel is not a member of the ICC,
04:47 nor are we.
04:49 In 2015, the ICC recognized the Palestinians
04:53 as a state for ICC purposes,
04:55 even though they're not recognized by the UN.
04:58 Why they did that, I don't know.
05:00 But they took over jurisdiction of this conflict.
05:03 And where do we lie now?
05:05 May 20th, a couple of days ago,
05:10 a representative of the ICC
05:12 was supposed to land in Israel
05:14 to set up a meeting between legal officials,
05:18 government officials of the State of Israel,
05:20 and the prosecutor, Khan, next week.
05:23 The group that I was involved in urged the ICC
05:28 to set out and talk with Israel, called complementarity.
05:32 Under the Rome Statute, the ICC cannot act
05:35 if the nation in question,
05:38 unless the nation in question is unable or unwilling
05:41 to proceed with an investigation,
05:43 or if the investigation is conducted in bad faith.
05:46 There is no way you can find Israel
05:49 is not acting in good faith
05:52 when they were willing to meet you two days ago.
05:55 So here's what happened.
05:57 We were misled and lied to by the ICC.
06:00 This group thinks they have jurisdiction
06:03 of the entire world.
06:05 They're gonna roam the globe and right wrongs.
06:08 They're created to deal with voids
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