00:00Hi, this is Avik Bhattacharya from Outlook Magazines.
00:07This is Raigarh district where Kathkari community stays here within this forest.
00:13We are now going to Dwavedwari.
00:16My name is Nathuram Waghmare.
00:20My name is Nathuram Waghmare.
00:23Mr. Nathuram, please tell us about this place.
00:27What is the name of this forest?
00:29Please tell us about this place.
00:30Who lives here?
00:32The mountains that you see here,
00:34this is where the Kathkari community stays.
00:36And the Kathkari community stays here.
00:39The forest that you see here,
00:42we have been given this land as our own.
00:45My name is Chandrakant Gaikwad.
00:48I am the head of the Sarvaharajan Andolan.
00:51And this land, all this land,
00:54was given to the Adivasis by the British government after 1800 years.
00:59Who is called Dari land?
01:02This land is on the top of the mountain.
01:05This is called Dari land.
01:07And this land,
01:08their claim has been made at the level of the government.
01:13And this land should now be in the name of the Adivasis.
01:17Some people work as labourers,
01:19and in this Dari land, they farm.
01:21Please tell us, what work do you do?
01:24I work as a labourer.
01:28I cut wheat,
01:30I cut firewood,
01:33I cut wood,
01:35I work in the fields,
01:37I go to the farms.
01:40I also sow seeds.
01:43This is what I do.
01:46Do you have your own land?
01:47No.
01:49So when you work in the fields,
01:52how much labour do you get in a day?
01:54I get around 2.5-3.
01:58I don't get much.
02:00This land of the jungle,
02:02should be of the Adivasis.
02:04And for this, have you got any jungle land,
02:08from where you can work?
02:10Have you got any jungle land, Dari land?
02:12No, no, I haven't got anything.
02:14So you haven't got any Dari land work yet?
02:16No.
02:18Do you take any money during the festivals?
02:21Please tell us about that.
02:22Tell us about taking money from the Seth during the festivals.
02:27After giving the money,
02:29we used to go to Ganpati La,
02:31we used to go to Uchar.
02:33In advance.
02:34How much money do you take?
02:3660-70 thousand rupees,
02:38but we don't give it all at once.
02:39We give small amounts,
02:42like this.
02:44We give 5,000, 10,000, 20,000,
02:50like this.
02:52After that, you go to work to pay off the money you give.
02:59Yes.
03:00And how much do you get in a day?
03:02In a day,
03:05we get it on a weekly basis,
03:07we get it on a weekly basis,
03:08How much?
03:09How much, 2,000, 1,500 rupees.
03:13We give them this much.
03:15On a weekly basis?
03:15Yes, on a weekly basis.
03:16And at the end,
03:19after everything is done,
03:23he does the calculations.
03:24Have you studied?
03:27No, no, I didn't study.
03:30Do you understand the calculations?
03:32What calculations are there,
03:34I don't know the calculations.
03:36What does he do to us, what does he say to us?
03:40He calculates and gives it to us.
03:42He calculates and gives it to us.
03:47Have you got the house of PM Abbas Hojjana?
03:50No.
03:51Gas tanker?
03:53Nothing.
03:55Elections are coming up.
03:56Do you have any demands from the new government?
04:00What is the need in your life now?
04:03What are the demands you have for the new government?
04:06What is the need for the house?
04:09What is the need for the broken door?
04:12What is the need for the road?
04:15What is the need for the water?
04:17Everything is given.
04:20This is what is needed.
04:33Adivasi community is one of the most marginalized Adivasi community that comes under PVTG group.
04:40Today I do have with me Kushna Ramajangam.
04:45And I will ask him, when actually he went to this Kol Bhatti.
04:50You tell us first, when did you go to Kol Bhatti?
04:55Which year did you go?
04:57I went in 2022.
05:01Why did you go to Kol Bhatti?
05:03I went because I don't have money.
05:08The owner gives me money and I go.
05:13Where does the owner come from?
05:15He comes from Nagar.
05:18How much money did he give you?
05:2030,000.
05:2230,000?
05:23Yes.
05:24After that how did you work there?
05:27Who all went to Kol Bhatti?
05:30I went, my son went, my wife went.
05:35Later my daughter also came.
05:37So when this boy went, he was not studying in school then?
05:41He was studying.
05:43But he left school?
05:44Yes, he left school and went with me.
05:46For how many months did you go?
05:48I went for a year, but I had to come in between.
05:52Why did you have to come in between?
05:53Because he came home to make me, my wife.
05:57First tell me how much money did you get from Kol Bhatti?
06:02How much did you get for one gunny?
06:05For one gunny, we worked for 10-15 days.
06:10For one gunny, we got 130 rupees.
06:12How many gunny did you make in 4 months?
06:15I made 170 gunny in 4 months.
06:19So you made 170 gunny.
06:21How much money did you get for 170 gunny?
06:24How much money did you get for 170 gunny?
06:27I didn't calculate that.
06:30So now you will have to go again?
06:33Yes, he will call me and I will have to go.
06:36Otherwise he will ask for money.
06:38Otherwise he will ask for money?
06:39Yes, he will ask for money.
06:40My name is Vaishali Gangaram Jadhav.
06:43I am the village head of Rathore village.
06:46I feel that we should not have changed our house.
06:52We should not have changed our land.
06:56We have land here and there.
07:00It would have been better if we had land.
07:03If they gave us land, we would have built a house.
07:09Because there is a lot of rain here.
07:11There is a lot of fear.
07:14There is a lot of fear.
07:16If they had given us land, it would have been better.
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