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Rachel Reeves was visiting a WHG buidling developmemt in Walsall along with her Mayoral Candidate colleague.
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25/04/2024
Labours Rachel Reeves joined the West Mids Mayoral Candidate for a look around a housing development in Walsall.
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, Shadow Chancellor here in Green Lane, Walsall today at the former
00:06
Raybald Bridge Factory site.
00:08
Could you briefly tell me what brings you to this site today?
00:11
Well it's great to see what Walsall Housing Group are doing and it's what Richard wants
00:16
to do if he's elected Mayor of the West Midlands Combined Authority.
00:21
We know that Andy Street in eight years has only built 46 council homes and yet there
00:27
are 64,000 people on the waiting list for council and social homes.
00:32
So it's great to see what Walsall Housing Group are doing here but Richard wants to
00:38
turbo charge the building of new homes including social houses to rent right across the West
00:45
Midlands because the demand is there and we know what a transformational impact it can
00:49
have on people's lives having a home of their own and the great thing about some of these
00:54
houses as well is that the energy bills will be really low because of the energy efficiency.
00:59
So a home of your own and low bills, that's really massive for families and that's why
01:06
Richard's put it at the heart of his agenda.
01:08
Absolutely right, so what we're going to do is rapidly deploy the brownfield funds that
01:13
the current Mayor's got so we can develop sites like this in the black country a lot
01:17
quicker.
01:18
We're going to work with planning authorities so we fast track planning and then have a
01:22
laser focus on using the housing resources available to the Mayor to build a minimum
01:28
of 2,000 units of social housing a year and we're going to use the £250 million he hasn't
01:33
used already to pump crime housing development with housing associations like the Walsall
01:37
Housing Group.
01:38
So I know it's quite a key part of Labour's policy is the introduction of housing targets.
01:45
What assurances would you give to people who perhaps live on the greenbelt or in suburban
01:50
areas that the density of population isn't going to become a problem for them, there's
01:54
going to be overdevelopment in greenbelt areas?
01:56
We want more developments like this, this is a brownfield site, a form of steelworks
02:01
across the road, this was an industrial use as well but for years had been derelict.
02:08
So a brownfield first approach and certainly in the West Midlands and here in Walsall there
02:14
is plenty of brownfield sites to develop, if only you had a Mayor that made it a priority
02:20
and that's why right at the heart of Richard's offer is around housing, skills and jobs because
02:27
those are the priorities of local people right across the West Midlands.
02:30
But at the time obviously whoever comes to the next government isn't going to have much
02:32
money to play with, obviously brownfield sites are far more expensive to develop, where do
02:37
you foresee the funding coming from for that?
02:39
The Mayor's got access to about £200 million in funding for brownfield sites specifically
02:44
and I want to align that with the housing funds he's got so we can build out on sites
02:48
like this.
02:49
The back country has got many many brownfield sites as has the wider West Midlands, we build
02:54
on brownfield sites, we rebuild and reconnect our communities, we create jobs and we allow
03:00
all the communities across the West Midlands to thrive and prosper.
03:03
And builders want to build but what you need is the political will to unlock land to make
03:09
it available for housing and brownfield sites like this are really crucial to reaching Labour's
03:16
targets and also Richard's targets for here in the West Midlands to ensure that people
03:20
have got a home of their own and you know some sort of stats that I was looking at earlier
03:26
today shows that the number of young people who are living at home has increased in the
03:32
last four or five years by 16% in the West Midlands.
03:36
Now some young people you know want to stay living at home but many would much rather
03:41
be able to get on the housing ladder or even be able to rent a home of their own but because
03:46
houses are being built, not being built, that's not happening and that's why we want to make
03:50
it a priority.
03:51
So can you assure people then that the Labour government will not be having any extensive
03:56
development to the green builds?
03:58
What Keir Starmer said just earlier this week was that where you've got for example a disused
04:04
car park on the green build or a petrol station, these are two real examples, of course building
04:14
on those sorts of sites is preferable to building on a field in an urban area so you've got
04:20
to take a practical approach but here in the West Midlands and across great swathes of
04:24
the country there is plenty of brownfield sites that can be developed and we want to
04:29
see developed.
04:30
A crucial part of our plan as well is that when new housing is built there should be
04:35
first dibs for local people because often local people are priced out of the local housing
04:40
market and that's not good enough.
04:41
We want local people and young families to be able to get on the housing ladder.
04:46
So you would say that we're doubting to what extent living next to say a farm as a developer
04:50
has been trying to develop that there will be no change in policy towards that?
04:54
We are identifying pieces of land like car parks, like petrol stations, that's the sort
04:59
of development we want to see and a brownfield first approach and people do not need to worry.
05:07
In fact this is about saying we'll have a strategy led by our mayors to develop the
05:14
housing that is appropriate with local housing plans developed in conjunction with local
05:18
people and local mayors.
05:20
We've seen what's been done here on this site with the housing association here, Walsall
05:24
Housing Group, working with Walsall Council to redevelop this site and I plan to work
05:29
with councils and housing associations across the region to replicate what was happening
05:34
here in every borough across the West Midlands.
05:37
So when a developer says they want to develop a piece of farmland, say we've got one called
05:42
the Seven Cornfields near where I live and where the local developer wants to develop
05:47
that, there would be no pressure from government to meet housing targets to develop that site?
05:53
I don't know that site or development.
05:56
If a farmland a developer wants to develop?
05:59
That's not brownfield and our approach is a brownfield of a site, a brownfield first.
06:05
OK, you've said today about their nationalisation is going to be one of the first policies of
06:13
a Labour government.
06:14
Why is that such an important policy to be the first thing to do?
06:18
Well, I got here half an hour late today on a train which had two trainloads of people
06:24
in it because the previous train was cancelled.
06:27
That is not how people should be travelling but it is the result of a fragmented train
06:35
operating system that doesn't put the passenger first and the proposals that Lou Haig, our
06:41
transport secretary put out today is saying that when franchises come to an end we will
06:47
bring those back in house, we will put the passenger at the heart of the train system
06:53
and instead of having multiple companies operating different routes we will bring that under
06:58
a central organising body and have passengers once again at the heart of our transport system
07:06
to save money and to deliver a better train system for families and commuters.
07:13
Certainly here the failing transport system is failing the people of the West Midlands.
07:18
Was it succeeding on the British Rail before?
07:20
Well look, if you look at the satisfaction of the railways today, that's been on the
07:26
decline and we want to see more people have confidence in the rail system, have confidence
07:31
they'll get to where they want to on time.
07:33
The government are today putting £4 billion a year into the train, so that's £4 billion
07:39
of public money but what are passengers seeing for it and what are taxpayers seeing for that
07:43
money?
07:43
This is about getting value for money for taxpayers and a better service for passengers.
07:47
So you believe there would be less subsidies if it wasn't nationalised?
07:51
Well I think the evidence today shows that you could save potentially over £2 billion
07:56
if you had one train operating company rather than the multiple franchises that you see
08:01
today.
08:02
Many of those franchises of course have already failed and have come back into public ownership
08:07
by default.
08:07
This is about using great British Rail to bring back in those contracts.
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